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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 25, 2016 17:56:38 GMT -5
LOL, no. Are radio stations spinning BTHE, SUBG, Tik Tok, California Gurls, E.T., Timber, etc., generating royalties to him as a songwriter working for Luke? No. You tried it though. All that stuff is already out there so let me be more specific. All future work that was penned by Luke, whether done currently or from a demo that was shopped around, and the artist was well aware of the situation, they would be supporting him in some capacity.
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 25, 2016 18:22:15 GMT -5
Has Katy said anything about this? She's been in bed (no pun) with him since the beginning. I'm eager to hear her position. I'm really curious to know if Katy will continue working with Dr Luke or not. He and Max Martin are responsible for every one of her #1 singles except Firework (produced by Stargate). She has been quiet on the Kesha/ Dr Like situation, so who knows...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 18:33:39 GMT -5
...I mean, it's Buzzfeed. They probably spoke to the assistants to the spokespeople, who get inundated with tons of requests daily. It's a complete non-story. Yeah, before getting to the 20 people the article literally says "we contacted the spokespeople for..." I think the writer tried to justify it by saying they followed up with the reps more than 24 hours after the first contact (i.e. enough time for the reps to talk to each person and get a comment to offer) but there's no guarantee that the rep and celeb have spoken about it by then. I was thinking about this on the way home earlier and getonthebus touched on it in his above comment - in the rush to call out people for not really being behind Kesha, that Buzzfeed article ignores the fact that many other artists could be subject to the same lack of control that Kesha is currently suffering. If Kesha is stuck in a contract where she can't pick her own producer, why in the world would you expect it to be any different for 5H [who is also signed to a Sony label]? Hell, they didn't even get to pick each other. It took Kelly years to work her way to a point where she can choose who she works with, and it's entirely possible this wouldn't be the case even now if Clive was still in charge. And again...another Sony person. I remember Avril trying to dig her heels in for Goodbye Lullaby but eventually having to cave and accept some Max Martin tracks just to get the album released. Again, Sony. Not that other labels are any better. That's something that really, really, really needs to be addressed while Kesha's situation is still a main topic. The judge that upheld the contract for fear of the precedent it might set in contract law...that reasoning upsets me the more I think about it because it was pretty much saying "my only job is upholding contract law, so don't bother me with these petty human interest concerns. And if he is found liable? Eh, well what's another year with him, 'k?" She referred to standard industry contracts as "highly negotiated" when in reality a new act rarely is generally not on equal footing (or any footing, even) with the label he or she is "negotiating" with. The industry as a whole is controlling in this regard and for a lot of women - well, for some men, too - such control can subject them to real harm. Kind of a tangent, but something that just occurred to me - I was fussing about the contract dispute being heard before the sexual assault case (since the former clearly hinges on the latter), but the assault case is going to be heard in CA, isn't it? Since that is where Kesha is alleging the abuse occurred - correct me if I'm wrong on that. If I am not mistaken the breach of contract claim got sent to NY because, even though Kesha signed it in CA, it included a clause saying any disputes would be settled according to NY law. Not sure if that will make a difference for the assault but I know for the contract, CA law would have been much more favorable to Kesha. Has Katy said anything about this? She's been in bed (no pun) with him since the beginning. I'm eager to hear her position. I'm really curious to know if Katy will continue working with Dr Luke or not. He and Max Martin are responsible for every one of her #1 singles except Firework (produced by Stargate). She has been quiet on the Kesha/ Dr Like situation, so who knows... I stay hot and cold (total pun) on Ms. Perry but I can't help but feel she's the one person I would give a pass for not commenting. Luke's worked with a lot of people but almost no one else has worked with him more consistently or is more indebted to him for their success than she is, and she may have even already begun working with him on her next project. If he and Katy are on good terms he may be bending her ear and she either doesn't know who to believe or she believes him. At the same time, his name is poison right now and will continue to be unless he is publicly exonerated (not likely - even if he won the assault case that doesn't necessarily prove Kesha is a liar either, it just means she didn't have enough proof). And then there's the 'not in control' scenario where it's not even up to her to work or not work with Luke.
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 25, 2016 19:51:51 GMT -5
When Luke negotiated his imprint head post at Sony, didn't they specifically carve out Katy as an exception to the rule that he was therein only allowed to work with Sony artists? I can't imagine she would just stop working with him without giving it much thought.
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Post by nightshade on Feb 25, 2016 21:10:53 GMT -5
I'm almost led to believe a reason Katy isn't wanting to release her album until next year or later is because she more than likely will work with Dr. Luke and doesn't want her album era to be tainted with what's going on.
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Post by Future Captain on Feb 28, 2016 4:29:25 GMT -5
If Kesha are really going to join Gaga for Til' It Happens To You in Oscar, well, that's... Something. It will be like a slap to the industry.
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 28, 2016 7:20:57 GMT -5
I think Gaga will just address her some support on stage which too is great of course
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 1, 2016 22:40:44 GMT -5
Hope she had a good birthday.
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Post by Live Your Life on Mar 6, 2016 14:46:54 GMT -5
Updated SoundScan figures:
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Post by wavey. on Mar 7, 2016 0:41:55 GMT -5
I'd thought Warrior was closer to 400k.
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 7, 2016 13:46:26 GMT -5
Warrior's single choices outside of DY were awful to me.
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Mar 9, 2016 13:56:03 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Mar 9, 2016 14:07:40 GMT -5
It doesn't directly affect Kesha but it doesn't necessary hurt her either. In the end it's going to kill Dr. Luke's bottom line and Kesha will be viewed more as a liability than an asset. Imagine if Katy threatens to stop working with him on the condition that he release her? No way would he risk losing his cash cow in order to save face with Kesha.
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Post by Gray. on Mar 9, 2016 14:25:19 GMT -5
It's hard to say how exactly this will affect Kesha. Without Sony's public relations concerns, there may not be anyone left to put pressure on Luke to release her.
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Post by getonthebus on Mar 9, 2016 15:19:34 GMT -5
I think it's short term very bad for her, as Sony was her strongest point of pressure to getting out of her deal with Kasz Money. Long term, it removes Sony as an actor from the case, and crystallizes it as a Kesha/Luke issue.
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Post by Snowbeast on Mar 9, 2016 15:44:08 GMT -5
It doesn't directly affect Kesha but it doesn't necessary hurt her either. In the end it's going to kill Dr. Luke's bottom line and Kesha will be viewed more as a liability than an asset. Imagine if Katy threatens to stop working with him on the condition that he release her? No way would he risk losing his cash cow in order to save face with Kesha. Katy can't work with him again. The pushback she would get would be huge and she's going into album #4, I'm sure she wants to expand musically anyway. The last era ended with a fizz, and she's undoubtedly looking to bring something new next album.
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Mar 9, 2016 16:49:40 GMT -5
Dr. Luke's attorney tells TMZ there is no truth to a report that the record label was dumping him a year early, due to the negative publicity surrounding his battle with Kesha over sexual abuse allegations. www.tmz.com/2016/03/09/dr-luke-sony-kesha/...
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Post by Focus on Mar 10, 2016 10:44:42 GMT -5
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 10, 2016 11:45:18 GMT -5
I need Kelly to tweet this in response to his little excerpt.
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 11, 2016 0:45:51 GMT -5
That has been known for a long long time. Like literally a decade.
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Post by JJ on Mar 11, 2016 7:24:36 GMT -5
Has Max Martin said anything about it? Does he work with Luke still?
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 11, 2016 13:48:40 GMT -5
Has Max Martin said anything about it? Does he work with Luke still? Not as frequently as they used to. The last thing I know of that they both worked on was a record on Flo Rida's last EP.
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Post by nightshade on Mar 18, 2016 15:32:06 GMT -5
She's scheduled to perform tonight for a Spring Break concert at South Padre Island. I'm attending. hopefully, she comes through. the stage is being setup and I saw a huge rainbow.
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Post by George on Mar 19, 2016 1:13:13 GMT -5
I wonder if she could still make money doing concerts, songwriting, and acting while waiting for all the lawsuits to sort out (and also keep her name/brand in public)?
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Post by nightshade on Mar 19, 2016 2:21:43 GMT -5
She killed it.
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Post by missgenericnickname on Mar 21, 2016 19:35:02 GMT -5
Her legal team is looking to appeal last month's ruling
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Post by Caviar on Mar 21, 2016 20:11:49 GMT -5
She already filed papers for the appeal. Trial will likely be in 2017.
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Post by wjr15 on Mar 23, 2016 16:19:10 GMT -5
Just found out that Kesha is performing at Pittsburgh Pride this summer!!! Already got my ticket!! I'm beyond excited for this
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Post by wavey. on Mar 23, 2016 16:48:46 GMT -5
Oh that's awesome. Still pissed they chased Iggy out
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Post by Colton on Apr 3, 2016 13:09:46 GMT -5
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