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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 16:22:38 GMT -5
After more than a year on the chart with "Outta My Head", Craig returns with new single "Keep Them Kisses Comin'", the 2nd single from his sophomore album, Never Regret, released back in May. Songwriters: Dallas Davidson and Ben Hayslip Impact Date: December 2 (Bigger Picture Group) Source
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Post by tvoss20 on Nov 18, 2013 18:22:59 GMT -5
Love it!!!
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 18, 2013 18:26:28 GMT -5
I just hope they do not keep this one on the chart for a year and settle for a top 20 placing.
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Post by tonyei31 on Nov 18, 2013 19:06:53 GMT -5
I love this song! It has the appeal of a modern old school sound with the proper mix of the steel guitar, fiddle and electric guitar. This is what modern country should sound like. It hasn't completely abandoned the roots of old school country but keeps it relevant for a radio sound.
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Post by churchchoir on Nov 18, 2013 21:21:38 GMT -5
This seems really radio-friendly, but so did "Outta My Head," which took 54 weeks to peak at #15. I think this may or may not become a hit. Bigger Picture just isn't really capable of pushing stuff too high up the charts, it seems. Also, I wonder if OMH being forced so high up the charts may lead radio programmers to feel burnt out on Craig and even more hesitant to play his next single. Either that, or radio could be anxious to give him another chart hit. This could go either way. I can see this peaking as high as inside the top 15, or as low as outside the top 40. Regardless, I'm looking forward to hearing this on the radio and seeing how things go for Craig.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 20, 2013 12:26:39 GMT -5
This song is proof that Dallas Davidson is very capable of writing country songs. Just wish he would stick to these kind of tunes rather than "That's My Kind Of Night". This is the kind of contemporary country we should be hearing more often on country radio. I'm still worried that the success of "Outta My Head" might make radio forget about Craig's follow up. His album came out forever ago, and I don't think that will help this single either. I have liked or loved all of Craig's singles thus far, with the last two being my favorites.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 20, 2013 17:27:58 GMT -5
This seems really radio-friendly, but so did "Outta My Head," which took 54 weeks to peak at #15. I think this may or may not become a hit. Bigger Picture just isn't really capable of pushing stuff too high up the charts, it seems. Also, I wonder if OMH being forced so high up the charts may lead radio programmers to feel burnt out on Craig and even more hesitant to play his next single. Either that, or radio could be anxious to give him another chart hit. This could go either way. I can see this peaking as high as inside the top 15, or as low as outside the top 40. Regardless, I'm looking forward to hearing this on the radio and seeing how things go for Craig. Radio's more worried about labels coming and going and investing in their artists than they are about being 'burnt out' on an artist. It's the same reason why Craig Morgan and Kellie Pickler have tough times with Black River and why RPMe has trouble with Maggie Rose getting better than Top 20. (Both RPM and Bigger Picture have promoted high-charting Zac Brown Band songs).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 20:36:57 GMT -5
Ok, what the heck? 10 weeks spent outside the top 45 and suddenly this one gains over 100 spins and 1 million AI's today? I have never, ever seen anything like this. We see big pushes when songs are going for #1 but coming into today, this song only had 5.4 million total on MB, and half of that is from the Westwood One (formerly Dial Global) satellite stations. Craig's Billboard audience last week was only 1.8 million...he needed 9 weeks to gain that much, and that's an average of a 200k gain per week. And now he gains 1 million in a single day? 18 adds for Craig last week, and all of them were Clear Channel stations. However, most of those stations hadn't played the song yet through Sunday, so did today's gain come from all of those stations suddenly playing this yesterday? Whatever the case, it definitely looks like Craig and Bigger Picture were cozy-ing up with the Clear Channel bean-counters last week.. The lyrics to this one definitely don't reinvent the wheel, but I like it well enough due to its traditional flare.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 18, 2014 20:43:37 GMT -5
^ I defiantly did a double take when I saw the jump it made. I too have never seen this happen, or at least none that I can remember. This song went for adds on December 2nd!, and spent over two months inching it's way to the bottom of the top 50 and now it's red hot? I'm sure there have been similar situations like this, but right now I can't quite think of any. Don't get me wrong I want this single to hit big for Craig. I love the upbeat traditional sound like you do and is quite the pleasant listen when I hear it. But man all those adds, audience, and spin gains out of the blue was fishy.. I love the politics of country radio
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 3:13:29 GMT -5
Wow, it looks like iHeart Radio is doing some sort of new artist showcase called "On The Verge" (hence all the Clear Channel adds). I wonder if they selected Craig's song randomly, or if he/BPG were getting cozy with Clear Channel? I suspect the latter... From Country Aircheck Weekly tonight:
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Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 20, 2014 9:20:13 GMT -5
This disgusts me, this song is up another 4 spots again (#35) on the Mediabase chart with the audience gain and spin gain well over where he started. Sorry but I don't approve of this Clear Channel treatment and I find this to be cheating. I find it cheating because this song was barely climbing at first but now this stupid treatment is for the birds and I hope the song fails to crack the top 20. I am ashamed that his label Bigger Picture is using Clear Channel to gain traction with radio and gain bigger gains.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 13:39:05 GMT -5
This disgusts me, this song is up another 4 spots again (#35) on the Mediabase chart with the audience gain and spin gain well over where he started. Sorry but I don't approve of this Clear Channel treatment and I find this to be cheating. I find it cheating because this song was barely climbing at first but now this stupid treatment is for the birds and I hope the song fails to crack the top 20. I am ashamed that his label Bigger Picture is using Clear Channel to gain traction with radio and gain bigger gains. It's worse than cheating. I can't put into words how much scarier this makes corporate country radio. What happens when everyone starts doing this? I mean what is going to stop every label in town from trying these shady illegal schemes? The result will be bidding wars, and playlists that are more top-heavy than ever...who knows how long it will be until 70 million is needed to hit #1, and the #40 song has only 0.5 million. What does that Aircheck ad even mean? "Sales up 60% first week"? First week of what? This is the start of Craig's 11th week on the chart. First week of this "on the verge" program? If that's the case, is this new "On The Verge" program that Clear Channel is doing going to be some multi-week thing? Or will it be more like the hourly "Artist Integration Program" and we'll see big negatives the following week? If that's the case, what would be the point of Craig and his label doing this? If they fall next week it won't have made any difference. I really want to know how this 'deal' came to be or if it was just Clear Channel picking a random song, and if so, why would they pick Craig and Bigger Picture? This is a song that had 2.2 million in Billboard audience, and it needed 10 weeks to gain that much. And now it can suddenly gain 1+ million a day and we are supposed to believe that's normal? Clearly a deal has been struck between his label and Clear Channel. I honestly don't know how things could get worse regarding corporate radio programming, but yet it keeps going downhill. Does anyone have the first 10 weeks of the chart run for this? I can look it up but not right at the moment. What I do know is it's spent 10 weeks no higher than #44 and now it could jump close to #30 in week 11. Yeah, and we're supposed to believe that that's 'normal'
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 20, 2014 13:52:04 GMT -5
Well, Craig Campbell DID spend over a year on the chart with Outta My Head and only got into the top 15, so he needs all the help he can get to get Keep Them Kisses Comin' up the chart. How long he will stay with this one is anyone's guess.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 20, 2014 14:04:34 GMT -5
That's the thing that really made me mad about this. Country radio is already seedy and corporate enough, but who's to say everyone doesn't try this. It's a copy cat business and if a label the size of Bigger Picture does this then it's only a matter of time before this becomes a unwanted trend.
I think this will only separate the gap for artist trying to get hits on the charts. Basically it all becomes who can negotiate the best and crack some deals behind the scenes. Change happens all the time in business but that doesn't mean it's right. Judging by that "On the verge add" this almost looks like its going to be a monthly thing. I'm sure we'll get a new song by then grabbing 18 adds out of the blue and skyrocketing for no good reason. This only makes my feeling worse about country radio than it originally was and it wasn't in a good place before I saw that add.
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Post by Zazie on Feb 20, 2014 17:44:02 GMT -5
Billboard chart run of Kisses:
last chart in Dec, debut at 54; then
Jan 55, 57, 54, 48 Feb 47, 47, 47, 48 Mar 44
And why do I have a feeling it's going to rise quite a bit on next week's chart? This is supremely depressing.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 20, 2014 19:16:17 GMT -5
Yeppers, picking up major stations and spins:
MIRANDA LAMBERT Automatic 8 119 CRAIG CAMPBELL Keep Them Kisses Comin' 9 109 FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE This Is How We Roll f/L. Bryan 6 66 TIM MCGRAW Lookin' For That Girl 7 49 LUKE BRYAN Play It Again 1 26
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Post by tonyei31 on Feb 20, 2014 19:19:48 GMT -5
That's the thing that really made me mad about this. Country radio is already seedy and corporate enough, but who's to say everyone doesn't try this. It's a copy cat business and if a label the size of Bigger Picture does this then it's only a matter of time before this becomes a unwanted trend. I think this will only separate the gap for artist trying to get hits on the charts. Basically it all becomes who can negotiate the best and crack some deals behind the scenes. Change happens all the time in business but that doesn't mean it's right. Judging by that "On the verge add" this almost looks like its going to be a monthly thing. I'm sure we'll get a new song by then grabbing 18 adds out of the blue and skyrocketing for no good reason. This only makes my feeling worse about country radio than it originally was and it wasn't in a good place before I saw that add. The only good thing about this is the song they picked. Maybe it's me but it's a traditional sounding song. If this "on the verge" allows artists like Chris Stapleton, Craig Campbell, Greg Bates (bad example due to no label but you get my drift) type artists to elevate into top 10 hits it could be a good thing. The problem that will happen with this is it will allow an influx to more "bro country" than what's needed. Be prepared for Chase Rice to be next month's "On the Verge"
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 22, 2014 18:06:04 GMT -5
TW: (1296) LW: (633) Gain: (+663) Audience: (9.995) #47-33 Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that at all .....Sickening.
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Post by someguy on Feb 22, 2014 18:19:03 GMT -5
Between stuff like this, the ridiculous Clear Channel debuts and the "your turn, my turn" revolving door policy at #1, I'm really losing interest in following the charts. I still care that artists I like do well, because radio airplay continues to be great promotion for them (which in turn means their music will hopefully sell better, and they will hopefully have more opportunities to make music), but in terms of chart achievements, it's all becoming so meaningless. This is just another sad example of it.
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 23, 2014 2:06:29 GMT -5
Wow, it looks like iHeart Radio is doing some sort of new artist showcase called "On The Verge" (hence all the Clear Channel adds). I wonder if they selected Craig's song randomly, or if he/BPG were getting cozy with Clear Channel? I suspect the latter... From Country Aircheck Weekly tonight: Nope. They selected him as their first such artist. It's likely their "play" a la THe Highway's. "Highway Find."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 18:26:28 GMT -5
Nope. They selected him as their first such artist. It's likely their "play" a la THe Highway's. "Highway Find." Only this is way, way different than what The Highway does. That's one station that will play a new song a good deal so as to 'discover' that artist. Here, we have a HUGE block of Clear Channel stations that have jumped on this song. Again, this is a song that needed 10 chart weeks to accumulate a 2.2 million audience total. And now it's gaining that much in 2 days. KTKC has increased by over 800 spins in the last week alone, and nearly ALL of those spins have come from Clear Channel. I don't think the Highway spins their 'Highway Find' 800 times in a 7-day span. This is corporate-country radio at its worst. It shows that the big companies don't give a damn about listeners, because in cases like these, there is someone high-up obviously telling the majority of CC-owned stations to program Craig's song into their playlists. So this is getting boosted up based off the decision of a couple of bean-counters...it has nothing to do with the natural rhythm of things such as listener requests, or listener research in specific markets. This has basically tripled its spins and audience in the last 7 days, and all of that is on Clear Channel.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 23, 2014 19:06:11 GMT -5
Will this song suffer a hangover since all this was done by Clear Channel, will this song lose a big chunk of it's spins and audience this Tuesday since it was last Tuesday since all this non-sense began?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 19:22:43 GMT -5
Will this song suffer a hangover since all this was done by Clear Channel, will this song lose a big chunk of it's spins and audience this Tuesday since it was last Tuesday since all this non-sense began? I've been wondering that as well, but I don't think we'll know until we get into next week. With the top-of-the-hour spins, those songs are obviously going to lose a good chunk of audience after a week because there's no way the following week's airplay will match up with the debut week's airplay (in other words, stations don't play a song once an hour even when it's in the top 5 on the charts). In Craig's case, things are a bit different. It's possible that this song could maintain the same level of airplay next week, but it's also possible that some of the Clear Channel stations might feel inclined to drop it lower on their playlists. It will definitely be interesting to see how it plays out, and by interesting, I mean 'interesting in a bad way', since I absolutely detest this corporate programming crap and how it affects the charts..
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Post by josephmorgan on Feb 24, 2014 16:08:10 GMT -5
I just got the new Mediabase country chart this morning. This week, it cracks the Top 40 way up at #31 from #44 last week.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 24, 2014 16:37:45 GMT -5
#30 on Billboard Country Airplay this week, up from #44 last week, Thanks Clear Channel, NOT!!!!!!!
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 24, 2014 17:35:27 GMT -5
Isn't the goal to get as high or as popular on these charts as possible? Yes, it is. This is just a way for more ears to hear Craig's song. I guess I'm just looking at this from the artist's POV. I think it's fun to look at these charts but to take them as some sort of higher form than they are (a measurement of radio station popularity), I just don't get the anger.
Oh, it 8 more adds today too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 19:32:20 GMT -5
Isn't the goal to get as high or as popular on these charts as possible? Yes, it is. This is just a way for more ears to hear Craig's song. I guess I'm just looking at this from the artist's POV. I think it's fun to look at these charts but to take them as some sort of higher form than they are (a measurement of radio station popularity), I just don't get the anger. Oh, it 8 more adds today too. I'm sorry, but this just strikes me as very naive. Yes, the goal is for a song to get as high as possible. But Craig's gains are completely unnatural. They came about when someone at Clear Channel decided to tell at least 2 dozen CC-owned stations that they needed to play Craig's song. It was not an individual decision by individuals at those individual stations. It was corporate programming. The decision was some high-level executive's and his/hers only...it completely throws listener feedback and market research right out the window. Why even bother to gather feedback/call-out if someone is just going to make a decision like this? Why even bother to have PD's at each station if they are getting told what to do by someone higher up? This went for adds back around Thanksgiving. It needed 10 weeks to accumulate 2.2 million in total audience, and suddenly it can gain 1 million in a day and they expect me to believe that that's normal? It's not. It's wrong. It wreaks of record labels brown-nosing with these corporate companies. And the game is only getting worse. These manufactured chart moves will get worse. The insane pushes to #1 will continue to get worse.
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Post by McCreerian on Feb 24, 2014 20:06:58 GMT -5
Isn't the goal to get as high or as popular on these charts as possible? Yes, it is. This is just a way for more ears to hear Craig's song. I guess I'm just looking at this from the artist's POV. I think it's fun to look at these charts but to take them as some sort of higher form than they are (a measurement of radio station popularity), I just don't get the anger. Oh, it 8 more adds today too. I totally agree with this. And this is what I was saying on Scotty's thread about how his next single will take off faster, while others on here were saying oh no it won't happen that way. Craig's first single from his album took a year to chart. Scotty's is taking a year. Craig's 2nd single is flying up fast thanks to some "radio help" and its is almost guaranteed to happen to Scotty too I've been told by sources inside the industry. Craig and Scotty's first charting records were mostly nothing to brag about either on the charts. So don't be surprised when a lot of people here are mad again sometime over the mid Summer when "Feelin' It" is flying up the charts like this Craig song is, while Craig's 3rd single from his album is taking off at the same time. I know I'm in the minority but I have no complaints about this system. I think it's great.
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 24, 2014 21:34:50 GMT -5
Isn't the goal to get as high or as popular on these charts as possible? Yes, it is. This is just a way for more ears to hear Craig's song. I guess I'm just looking at this from the artist's POV. I think it's fun to look at these charts but to take them as some sort of higher form than they are (a measurement of radio station popularity), I just don't get the anger. Oh, it 8 more adds today too. I'm sorry, but this just strikes me as very naive. Yes, the goal is for a song to get as high as possible. But Craig's gains are completely unnatural. They came about when someone at Clear Channel decided to tell at least 2 dozen CC-owned stations that they needed to play Craig's song. It was not an individual decision by individuals at those individual stations. It was corporate programming. The decision was some high-level executive's and his/hers only...it completely throws listener feedback and market research right out the window. Why even bother to gather feedback/call-out if someone is just going to make a decision like this? Why even bother to have PD's at each station if they are getting told what to do by someone higher up? This went for adds back around Thanksgiving. It needed 10 weeks to accumulate 2.2 million in total audience, and suddenly it can gain 1 million in a day and they expect me to believe that that's normal? It's not. It's wrong. It wreaks of record labels brown-nosing with these corporate companies. And the game is only getting worse. These manufactured chart moves will get worse. The insane pushes to #1 will continue to get worse. It's not naive. And honestly, I don't personally care about "chart integrity" or whatever that is. To me they're measurements of popularity with programmers, corporate aided or not.
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Post by bigfan101 on Feb 24, 2014 21:41:15 GMT -5
Am I stoked that this is getting an unreasonable push -- no, but Craig's struggles with radio play with extremely long chart runs on a smaller label makes me kinda okay with the immediate success for him. If anyone deserves this type of push, it is Craig
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