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Post by Harx on Nov 4, 2016 14:40:48 GMT -5
Technically it wasn't even biggest Bieber hit this year, since "Sorry" spent more weeks at #1. Lose Yourself was the biggest hit. It spent 24 weeks in top 10 while Sorry only spent 21. Lose Yourself had a better run than Sorry. Well that's another way to measure it. I guess we are both correct. "Closer" is also technically the biggest song of 2016, it definetely was bigger than "Love Yourself" if we count weeks at #1. |
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Post by scrohr424 on Nov 4, 2016 14:54:57 GMT -5
That and George has Love Yourself like 33k ahead of Sorry on the Decade-End predictions. However, with Sorry's first three weeks wasted in 2015, that technically gives it a stronger dominance in total points if you add them to its 2016 score.  |
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Post by johnny16 on Nov 4, 2016 17:15:36 GMT -5
"Love Yourself" is pretty much set to be 2016 Year End #1. It also happens to be one of my least favorite songs of the year. Seriously, there haven't been a Year End #1 song that I'd dislike this much since 1991's "Everything I Do" by Bryan Adams. 1999 believe by cher and 2014 happy are pretty bad too |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 18:32:51 GMT -5
"Love Yourself" is pretty much set to be 2016 Year End #1. It also happens to be one of my least favorite songs of the year. Seriously, there haven't been a Year End #1 song that I'd dislike this much since 1991's "Everything I Do" by Bryan Adams. 1999 believe by cher and 2014 happy are pretty bad too Cher's Believe is a CLASSIC! How dare you |
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Post by Mike is BAD on Nov 4, 2016 18:36:04 GMT -5
For any song, a week at #1 is great, 5 weeks is even better, etc. That said, a song's "run" cannot be measured by its peak, or even its number of weeks at the top or in the top 10, 20, 40, 50. It's just total overall points while on the chart as a whole. Any given position on the chart has a variable point value each week, so no two songs are equal just because they each spent a week at #1, or 20 weeks in the top 10, for example. One could have 50k points at #1 while the other had 35k. Picking and choosing a threshold of "weeks at #1" or "weeks in the top 10" isn't a sound way to gauge a chart run or compare songs' performances... unless we are talking about those thresholds specifically. 'Sorry' actually has the better overall performance on the Hot 100, but since its run began at the tail end of the 2015 chart year, it looks like it may lose out to Love Yourself in 2016. I say 'may' because there is a small chance the prediction ends up being incorrect. Weeks at #1 may be the ultimate goal of goals to some, at least on the shallow surface. But it doesn't necessarily indicate larger overall success over another song that spent less weeks at #1 but more at #2, for example. Chart peaks are relative to any given week only, with varying amounts of "competition" and closeness in points. So comparing two songs' overall success by their peak or weeks in a certain segment of the chart isn't the jam, especially if you consider yourself a chart watcher. 'Love Yourself' could have very well spent 8, 9, 10 weeks at #1 under different circumstances. Would that have made it "feel" bigger? Maybe, but probably only to chart watchers. To the non-chart watcher, I bet Love Yourself "feels" like a year-end #1 simply based on how much it was on the radio over the last year - and obviously it was very popular and well-liked by the masses to have amassed the points it did. There is no "but this song spent more weeks at #1" to the non-chart watcher. It just is what it is - math - agree or not, feel or not. Somewhat agree, though weeks at #1 can help points out (a la Closer), but it really depends on how many points it gets in all. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 20:17:21 GMT -5
if not for Work, Love Yourself would've actually stayed at #1 for 8 weeks (and would've blocked Stressed Out for 5 weeks instead of just 1)
speaking of Stressed Out, maybe Panda can drop out of the Hot 100 this week and then Stressed Out can make the year-end top 5 (or at least next week, in which case it could go either way between the two songs). I'm remaining hopeful!
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Post by Mike is BAD on Nov 5, 2016 9:28:27 GMT -5
I'm happy either way if Panda or Stressed Out get #5. They're my two favorite songs that will appear on the YE (False Alarm :'( )
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Post by johnny16 on Nov 5, 2016 12:40:38 GMT -5
24k magic is 1 on itunes, closer has been 5 for a few days nkw, like i said bruno mars is going to be number one next week or in 2 weeks.
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Post by 85la on Nov 5, 2016 16:08:12 GMT -5
For any song, a week at #1 is great, 5 weeks is even better, etc. That said, a song's "run" cannot be measured by its peak, or even its number of weeks at the top or in the top 10, 20, 40, 50. It's just total overall points while on the chart as a whole. Any given position on the chart has a variable point value each week, so no two songs are equal just because they each spent a week at #1, or 20 weeks in the top 10, for example. One could have 50k points at #1 while the other had 35k. Picking and choosing a threshold of "weeks at #1" or "weeks in the top 10" isn't a sound way to gauge a chart run or compare songs' performances... unless we are talking about those thresholds specifically. 'Sorry' actually has the better overall performance on the Hot 100, but since its run began at the tail end of the 2015 chart year, it looks like it may lose out to Love Yourself in 2016. I say 'may' because there is a small chance the prediction ends up being incorrect. Weeks at #1 may be the ultimate goal of goals to some, at least on the shallow surface. But it doesn't necessarily indicate larger overall success over another song that spent less weeks at #1 but more at #2, for example. Chart peaks are relative to any given week only, with varying amounts of "competition" and closeness in points. So comparing two songs' overall success by their peak or weeks in a certain segment of the chart isn't the jam, especially if you consider yourself a chart watcher. 'Love Yourself' could have very well spent 8, 9, 10 weeks at #1 under different circumstances. Would that have made it "feel" bigger? Maybe, but probably only to chart watchers. To the non-chart watcher, I bet Love Yourself "feels" like a year-end #1 simply based on how much it was on the radio over the last year - and obviously it was very popular and well-liked by the masses to have amassed the points it did. There is no "but this song spent more weeks at #1" to the non-chart watcher. It just is what it is - math - agree or not, feel or not. I agree with all of this and it is very much on point, however, even if the specific points of songs aren't known, total # of weeks on the chart, peak position, and number of weeks beyond certain thresholds, etc., can very often be good indicators of which songs are actually bigger hits, assuming the runs aren't too similar. For instance, if a song peaks at #2 and spends ten weeks in the top 10 and 20 weeks total on the chart, while another song peaking at #6 spends five in the top ten and 15 weeks total on the chart, it would be very reasonable to assume the former song actually accrued more points and was the bigger hit. Basically it comes down to probability. Obviously, songs that spend more weeks at higher positions on the chart are more likely, though not assured, to have more points. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Nov 5, 2016 16:16:56 GMT -5
The first year end mashup from a major artist just came out  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 16:47:20 GMT -5
24k magic is 1 on itunes, closer has been 5 for a few days nkw, like i said bruno mars is going to be number one next week or in 2 weeks. Just cause a song is number 1 on Itunes doesnt guarantee number 1 on Hot 100. If I recall earlier in the year, My House was number 1 on Itunes for around 2 weeks while number 1 on Pop Radio and it only peaked at 4 on Hot 100. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Nov 5, 2016 16:51:48 GMT -5
24k magic is 1 on itunes, closer has been 5 for a few days nkw, like i said bruno mars is going to be number one next week or in 2 weeks. Just cause a song is number 1 on Itunes doesnt guarantee number 1 on Hot 100. If I recall earlier in the year, My House was number 1 on Itunes for around 2 weeks while number 1 on Pop Radio and it only peaked at 4 on Hot 100. I remember when Love Me Like You Do finally got to #1 on iTunes I thought it would hit #1 on the Hot 100. However, Black Beatles is also now up to the top 3 on Spotify as well, so it seems to be shaping up to becoming a #1 hit. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 17:00:17 GMT -5
24k magic is 1 on itunes, closer has been 5 for a few days nkw, like i said bruno mars is going to be number one next week or in 2 weeks. Just cause a song is number 1 on Itunes doesnt guarantee number 1 on Hot 100. If I recall earlier in the year, My House was number 1 on Itunes for around 2 weeks while number 1 on Pop Radio and it only peaked at 4 on Hot 100. 7 Years and Purple Rain also spent multiple weeks at #1 in sales and didn't get #1 (the latter didn't have the radio support though of course). Also NO and Cold Water has multiple big sales weeks and didn't get to #1. IIRC Heathens and Stressed Out were #1 on iTunes for a few days. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 17:00:20 GMT -5
Just cause a song is number 1 on Itunes doesnt guarantee number 1 on Hot 100. If I recall earlier in the year, My House was number 1 on Itunes for around 2 weeks while number 1 on Pop Radio and it only peaked at 4 on Hot 100. I remember when Love Me Like You Do finally got to #1 on iTunes I thought it would hit #1 on the Hot 100. However, Black Beatles is also now up to the top 3 on Spotify as well, so it seems to be shaping up to becoming a #1 hit.  ANYTHING BUT THAT |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 17:01:34 GMT -5
Black Beatles is Rae Sremmurds best song though. While 24K Magic is Brunos worst song. Soooo, unpopular opinion, Id rather BB over 24 for number 1. But I still have hope that Starboy could hit 1.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 17:04:30 GMT -5
Black Beatles is definitely a masterpiece compared to anything else those guys ever put out. I much prefer 24k Magic though. If Starboy can't get #1, I just want Closer to break that record then because I honestly still love that song so much.
EDIT: there's also Don't Wanna Know, which I wouldn't mind hitting #1 either. It's really grown on me and M5 hasn't had a #1 in a while (they came unexpectedly close with Sugar) so I want them to get that back. But I highly doubt that'll happen either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 17:05:12 GMT -5
I think that Closer will be number 1 for 15 weeks. Will fall short.
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Post by Dylan :) on Nov 5, 2016 17:23:40 GMT -5
Black Beatles being their best song =/= it actually being good
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 17:29:19 GMT -5
Black Beatles being their best song =/= it actually being good let me rephrase it then: it's their one song that I find tolerable |
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Post by johnny16 on Nov 5, 2016 19:03:18 GMT -5
24k magic is 1 on itunes, closer has been 5 for a few days nkw, like i said bruno mars is going to be number one next week or in 2 weeks. Just cause a song is number 1 on Itunes doesnt guarantee number 1 on Hot 100. If I recall earlier in the year, My House was number 1 on Itunes for around 2 weeks while number 1 on Pop Radio and it only peaked at 4 on Hot 100. yeah i know that, but the song is gaining in airplay, sales, and the album is coming this month that will help make a big jump, while closer is not gaining that much right jow |
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Post by johnny16 on Nov 5, 2016 19:07:39 GMT -5
if black beatles goes number 1 this year is doomed, starboy and 24k magic are way better
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 5, 2016 20:58:00 GMT -5
Black Beatles is bad. But it isn't as bad as Juju.
It will most likely hit the Top 10, even the Top 5. But I don't mind. A lot of mindless rap songs have hit the Top 5 in the last year. Though, if it hit #1, I think I would be done with the Hot 100. Panda also hit #1, but that song was catchy and Desiigner has such a unique and upbeat personality that it was hard to hate. The Rae boys are the least-likable rap group ever. They are devoid of any personality or music wit. They are responsible for some of the worst rap songs I have ever heard. Even with all the dumb hits we got this year, Black Beatles going #1 would show the complete collapse of american music. The same goes for Juju (though that seems unlikely to go #1, seeing that Vine is dead).
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 5, 2016 21:13:24 GMT -5
Black Beatles is bad. But it isn't as bad as Juju. It will most likely hit the Top 10, even the Top 5. But I don't mind. A lot of mindless rap songs have hit the Top 5 in the last year. Though, if it hit #1, I think I would be done with the Hot 100. Panda also hit #1, but that song was catchy and Desiigner has such a unique and upbeat personality that it was hard to hate. The Rae boys are the least-likable rap group ever. They are devoid of any personality or music wit. They are responsible for some of the worst rap songs I have ever heard. Even with all the dumb hits we got this year, Black Beatles going #1 would show the complete collapse of american music. The same goes for Juju (though that seems unlikely to go #1, seeing that Vine is dead). That's a little bit of an overreaction. Black Beatles going #1 wouldn't be the complete collapse of american music. It'd just make this year worse than it already is. |
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Post by lyhom on Nov 5, 2016 21:13:25 GMT -5
Black Beatles going #1 would show the complete collapse of american music.  lmao this is like saying that people would stop eating burgers is mcdonald's would go out of business like dumb viral dance songs aren't going away because one of the many ways they were distributed went out of business edit: Black Beatles is bad. But it isn't as bad as Juju. It will most likely hit the Top 10, even the Top 5. But I don't mind. A lot of mindless rap songs have hit the Top 5 in the last year. Though, if it hit #1, I think I would be done with the Hot 100. Panda also hit #1, but that song was catchy and Desiigner has such a unique and upbeat personality that it was hard to hate. The Rae boys are the least-likable rap group ever. They are devoid of any personality or music wit. They are responsible for some of the worst rap songs I have ever heard. Even with all the dumb hits we got this year, Black Beatles going #1 would show the complete collapse of american music. The same goes for Juju (though that seems unlikely to go #1, seeing that Vine is dead). That's a little bit of an overreaction. Black Beatles going #1 wouldn't be the complete collapse of american music. It'd just make this year worse than it already is. lmao wait did you just reply to yourself?  |
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 5, 2016 21:14:58 GMT -5
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Post by Sambalada on Nov 6, 2016 2:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by scrohr424 on Nov 6, 2016 6:02:07 GMT -5
Wow. Yeah, I heard about Black Beatles being #1 on iTunes and Spotify, but this is crazy. To think that Rae Sremmurd will have an actual Top 10 hit. Could we potentially have a unexpected last minute sneak-in for the Year-End list?!
Then again, I didn't see it on the radio charts in the thread. Its radio play is nowhere near Closer, Starboy or 24K Magic's, and I have a feeling it'd need that to hit #1.
But of course now that I just jinxed it, watch it make the top of the radio charts like next week.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 6, 2016 9:21:37 GMT -5
Black Beatles going #1 would show the complete collapse of american music. lmao this is like saying that people would stop eating burgers is mcdonald's would go out of business like dumb viral dance songs aren't going away because one of the many ways they were distributed went out of business edit: That's a little bit of an overreaction. Black Beatles going #1 wouldn't be the complete collapse of american music. It'd just make this year worse than it already is. lmao wait did you just reply to yourself? We could only hope you were dead. And I love replying to myself! ;) |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Nov 6, 2016 12:02:10 GMT -5
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Post by lyhom on Nov 6, 2016 12:49:18 GMT -5
We could only hope you were dead. And I love replying to myself! ;)  |
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