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Post by avalyn on Jan 29, 2014 10:51:24 GMT -5
@markus Meyer: The Final three haven't been announced yet. I assume that will come in March. Pardon my slip of typing the has should be hasn't. Some reason my mind and fingers aren't meshing right now. It's bringing on slip ups like that.
ETA: @acmawards 10s The final three nominees for ACM New Artist of the Year will be announced in the coming weeks after fan voting closes February 4th! #ACMnoms
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Post by kim8 on Jan 29, 2014 10:53:18 GMT -5
Wow, nothing for Eric Church. Bummer. I am surprised at the lack of nomination for Jason for Entertainer too. Glad to see Gary get a nomination for Every Storm.
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Post by sapphire on Jan 29, 2014 10:53:27 GMT -5
I almost fell off my chair when I heard Lee Brice's name on MVOTY, no joke. Most of the nominees though are expected. I'm a little suprised to see Dan + Shay already nominated but well, they replaced Sugarland. Glad to see Sheryl Crow on FVOTY.
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Post by Lizl on Jan 29, 2014 12:13:44 GMT -5
I will still go for Carrie Underwood or Miranda Lambert for FVOTY. They had no. 1 hits and platinum songs last year. For the Song of the year in the ACMs, will they also award the singer?
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 29, 2014 12:34:40 GMT -5
Vocal Duo of the Year:Who the f**k are Dan & Shaye? Regardless, FGL will win this, there isn't a doubt. Big & Rich Dan + Shaye Florida Georgia LineLove & Theft Thompson Square This is Dan + Shay's current top 20 hit; something that two of the nominees can't say. www.cmt.com/videos/dan-shay/996667/19-you-me.jhtml
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 29, 2014 12:35:11 GMT -5
I will still go for Carrie Underwood or Miranda Lambert for FVOTY. They had no. 1 hits and platinum songs last year. For the Song of the year in the ACMs, will they also award the singer? The ACM's also award the singer, while the CMA's do not. Thoughts.. Love all the Lee Brice love, but I bet it will be similar to the way when Heidi Newfield got nominated for everything on the ACM's and...won nothing. We went from CMA having probably the best nominees for Album of the Year to the ACMs having the worst. Kacey or Tim MUST win. Where is The Band Perry's (or major underdogs Cassadee Pope and Thompson Square) noms? Those album is excellent. Personally, I forsee a lot of Highway Dont Care victories, Blake and Miranda will probably still win the vocalist awards, and Luke with the entertainer. Snubbed Non - Nominees: Eric Church Cassadee Pope Thompson Square Randy Houser
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Post by lookinghot on Jan 29, 2014 12:42:26 GMT -5
Unbelievable the biggest star in the genre has yet to receive an eoty nod, wow.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 29, 2014 12:48:51 GMT -5
Aldean and Underwood should have gotten EOTY Noms over Swift and (as much as I love him) Strait.
Likewise, Cassadee got snubbed completely. She's more deserving than Crow for FVOTY.
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Post by Lizl on Jan 29, 2014 12:59:43 GMT -5
The ACM's also award the singer, while the CMA's do not. Now I get it. I was wondering earlier why Tim has 7 noms. Turns out they also counted his production efforts.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 29, 2014 13:30:47 GMT -5
Based on a True Story is the most overrated album ever. Good grief.
Meh. Another year, more of the same.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 29, 2014 13:32:56 GMT -5
Vocal Duo of the Year:Who the f**k are Dan & Shaye? Regardless, FGL will win this, there isn't a doubt. Big & Rich Dan + Shaye Florida Georgia LineLove & Theft Thompson Square This is Dan + Shay's current top 20 hit; something that two of the nominees can't say. www.cmt.com/videos/dan-shay/996667/19-you-me.jhtmlI was kinda half kidding... I know who they are, I just didn't expect them at all to be nominated, that's all.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 29, 2014 14:34:10 GMT -5
I was kinda half kidding... I know who they are, I just didn't expect them at all to be nominated, that's all. Haha after I posted it I started to wonder if it was a joke...I figured you would know who they were ;P
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Post by Lizl on Jan 29, 2014 15:05:48 GMT -5
Why is Lady Antebellum now included in the Wagon Wheel bill? For the past year they only used "Wagon Wheel by Darius Rucker". In that case, he should be nominated for Grammy Country collaboration not Best Country Solo Performance.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 29, 2014 15:31:03 GMT -5
^ Another thought...would have loved to see Kellie Pickler on the FVOTY bill. I feel like she has really came into her own this year, and the DWTS win brought some good buzz and publicity to country radio
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 29, 2014 15:32:41 GMT -5
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 29, 2014 15:38:34 GMT -5
Wow, Lee Brice getting a Male Vocalist Nod. Finally Mike Curb can celebrate something . The album has to go to Kacey though. Blake's album isn't even in the same ballpark IMO. In fact it's the clearly second last out of these nominees. "Crash My Party" has some good tracks, but not nearly as good as Kacey's. People might think Two Lanes Of Freedom isn't a good album because Tim screwed up his single selections...Again! But I still don't predict it to top Same Trailer Different Park. As for FGL's, well I might just quit this genre if that thing wins. And Carrie not getting a nod for Entertainer is absurd to me. Taylor Swift is ridiculously popular, but can they at least nominate someone who actually makes an effort to be in the country genre.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 29, 2014 15:39:04 GMT -5
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 29, 2014 15:48:38 GMT -5
Noms aren't terrible upon first look, but I probably didn't look hard enough to make a better judgment since the ACMs usually always screw things up. Unbelievable the biggest star in the genre has yet to receive an eoty nod, wow. May I ask who you're referring to with this post? Wow, Lee Brice getting a Male Vocalist Nod. Finally Mike Curb can celebrate something . The album has to go to Kacey though. Blake's album isn't even in the same ballpark IMO. In fact it's the clearly second last out of these nominees. "Crash My Party" has some good tracks, but not nearly as good as Kacey's. People might think Two Lanes Of Freedom isn't a good album because Tim screwed up his single selections...Again! But I still don't predict it to top Same Trailer Different Park. As for FGL's, well I might just quit this genre if that thing wins. Seeing as Blake won the CMA for it, chances are high that it'll take the trophy here, too. However, Kacey's more recent Grammy win for Country Album might help her to a victory. The CMAs and ACMs run in very similar circles, though, and those circles are distant from the Grammys, which are usually the ones that are always, uh, correct.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 29, 2014 15:50:19 GMT -5
Wow, Lee Brice getting a Male Vocalist Nod. Finally Mike Curb can celebrate something . If Lee wins, Mike will probably record his acceptance speech and release it as his next single.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 29, 2014 16:01:12 GMT -5
Wow, Lee Brice getting a Male Vocalist Nod. Finally Mike Curb can celebrate something . If Lee wins, Mike will probably record his acceptance speech and release it as his next single. And put it on Greatest Hits 1-?.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 29, 2014 16:04:06 GMT -5
If Lee wins, Mike will probably record his acceptance speech and release it as his next single. And put it on Greatest Hits 1-?. No, just the deluxe edition.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 29, 2014 16:05:34 GMT -5
And put it on Greatest Hits 1-?. No, just the deluxe edition. Why put out an album at all. He'll just screw up the single selections anyway.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 29, 2014 16:12:24 GMT -5
No, just the deluxe edition. Why put out an album at all. He'll just screw up the single selections anyway. He'll release everything until something goes top 40. And if that doesn't work he'll release some random crap from a Tim McGraw concert from 1995.
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 29, 2014 16:39:13 GMT -5
Updated the OP with the full list of nominees, so I got to see every nominee as I typed it out. NVM, I was wrong, this is still pretty awful, etc. But, Country music in 2013 (and 2014 so far) has been pretty awful, too, so I guess it all fits! Entertainer -I respect him for his legacy and I admire that everyone wants to pay homage to him and all, but George Strait can fuck off from this category. He hasn't had half the year that Aldean, McGraw, or Underwood had this year. Hell, even The Band Perry is more deserving of that spot than he is. If the CMAs and ACMs wanted/want to honor him so desperately since he's on his final tour, a milestone award is more than appropriate. I don't see why they'd have such a hard time giving him one since they seem to be welding them and wheeling them right off of the shelves to Taylor Swift's hands with every awards show. Great segue into my next comment! -I'd like to think that it's only a matter of time before Taylor Swift starts to see herself excluded from these nominations lists because she truly couldn't give a damn about Country anymore, but with Hitler Scott Borchetta behind the wheel ( Jesus, please take it), she'll be here for another 70 years past her death. -Miranda Lambert is in this category for having one hit song. Literally, that's it. Why wasn't Carrie Underwood nominated again? -I detest Blake Shelton and Luke Bryan is on my last nerve. Male -Expected to see Luke Bryan and Blake Shelton on here, shocked to see that this is Jason Aldean's only nod, and I'm thrilled (+ rooting) for Keith Urban. -Lee Brice over Tim McGraw? Uh. Female -Nothing wrong with these five. Wanna know what else is magical about that word -- "five?" The fact that Miranda Lambert will have five of these trophies to herself come April! ...oh, wait. Did I say "magical?" I meant "mortifying." Duo -Why does this category still exist/who are Dan + Shay/what did Big & Rich do/no Sugarland(?)(!)(?!)/ugh, we all know who will win. *drinks* Group -Expected list of nominees, but I don't know who will win. LBT really has absolutely no momentum going for them anymore, Lady A has "Compass" and a tour starting up, The Band Perry has had a massive year (and I'd love to see them finally win this), and IDK/IDC about ZBB or EYB. They won't win anyways. Album OKAY.-Every academy member that actually voted so that Here's to the Good Times had enough votes to crack the top five albums released this past year need to each be individually paddled...and then fired afterwards. - Based On A True Story... isn't the weakest! It's the second weakest behind the two hillbillies that apparently can't afford shirts with sleeves. - Crash My Party was average at best, but I expected it to be here. Would've loved to see Golden and Pioneer in here over the two duds (mentioned above, obviously). -Tim McGraw won't win, but Two Lanes of Freedom is second best to the obvious leader of the pack. - Same Trailer, Different Park deserves this award in every rhyme, reason, and fashion, but since the ACMs and CMAs are run by political agendas of Music Row masculinity and payola, Kacey Musgraves will be sitting in the audience while she watches Shelton squawk his way through a lousy, drunken spiel about how he worked for 25 years to get where he is today. Putting that into perspective is pretty sad, too, since the album is total trash. Song WOW WHAT A VARIETY IN COMPARISON TO THE SINGLE AND VIDEO CATEGORIES!!! -Even though I don't like him as a person (never slander Carrie Underwood), I'm really happy to see Gary Allan's "Every Storm (Runs Out of Rain)" on here. Won't win, but pleasant surprise. The ACMs got one right! Yay, +1! -"Mine Would Be You" ........... ok, nvm, -1. -"Mama's Broken Heart" is following in "Over You"'s path of getting way too much love. Great song, great delivery, but nothing extraordinary over other songs released this past year (see: anything released by Kacey Musgraves, Kellie Pickler, etc.). -Why is "Wagon Wheel" occupying a Song of the Year spot at this show, too? I guess it's the 'cool thing to do' to nominate Bob Dylan. -"I Drive Your Truck" will win. Single Didn't I just do this one? Oh, that's right -- that was song! Sorry, I couldn't tell the difference since 3 of the 5 nominees were the same thing. -"Mama's Broken Heart" won't win. -"Wagon Wheel" won't win. -"I Drive Your Truck" won't win. -It comes down to "Highway Don't Care" and "Cruise". Part of me feels like the ACMs won't totally screw this up and will actually award the most deserving nominee in this category. However, since this is the same show that award Thompson Square the Top Vocal Duo award in 2012 and then nominated them in 2013 for Top New Vocal Duo or Group (which they proceeded to lose to...), Florida Georgia Line will come out victorious, if you'd even like to consider anything associated with that disaster of a 'song' a victory by any means. Video -Carrie Underwood got a nomination outside of Female Vocalist. Carrie Underwood got a nomination outside of Female Vocalist? CARRIE UNDERWOOD GOT A NOMINATION OUTSIDE OF FEMALE VOCALIST. I was honestly only expecting a Female Vocalist nod for her, so this is a pleasant surprise! She won't win, though. She never does anymore. -"Better Dig Two" and "Blowin' Smoke" were good, but neither will win. -3 of the 6 nominees here are also nominees in Song and Single. ... . . .Hmph. -"I Drive Your Truck" was an average video. It's solely here for its songwriting, which makes no sense, but neither do over half of these nominations, so what do I know?! -"Mama's Broken Heart" was not a good video. I will never understand why it was so well-received. It was literally nothing else but Miranda Lambert acting manic the entire time. -The best video in this category is Carrie Underwood's. That's not even a contest. In terms of what will win, though? It's Tim McGraw's, Taylor Swift's, and Keith Urban's to lose. "Highway Don't Care" -- I'm calling it. Vocal Event This is tragic. -I'd rather throw myself out of a window than sit through the terrible songwriting, vocal performance, and overall sound of "Boys Round Here" even one more time. -Where's Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton? Couldn't add even a smidge of legit Country (sans George Strait's crappy EOTY nod). -"We Were Us" isn't terrible, but I've never warmed up to it. I still think it's too loud (along with most of the Fuse record) and I can barely hear Miranda Lambert on it. -"Wagon Wheel" is a nice addition that I wasn't expecting to see. -"Highway Don't Care" will win. -I may bust a vein if I even dare to discuss that last disaster. Overall -- Miranda Lambert has become sickeningly overrated, Blake Shelton, Luke Bryan, and Florida Georgia Line need to be put in captivity during the show so there could actually be some sort of artistic merit to the 3 hours of... those nominees that we'll have to endure, and George Strait is occupying a spot that belongs to Carrie Underwood. But, Carrie Underwood's occupying $31 million from the past year, so she can go cry in her 250 karat, diamond-encrusted pillowcases.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 29, 2014 16:59:21 GMT -5
^ Sorry for the one-liner....but @14887fan this is the front-runner for post of the year. Absolutely LOVE this.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 29, 2014 17:11:36 GMT -5
Predictions/Wishes
Entertainer
Want: George Strait Will: Luke Bryan
Average group. 3 of 5 haven't really done much in terms of country success. Bryan's to lose.
Male
Want: Keith Urban Will: Blake Shelton
Hoping Brice (dark horses are awesome) or Keith (love 'Fuse') win. Shelton love fest will continue though.
Female
Want: Kacey Musgraves Will: Miranda Lambert
I could see Kacey winning it, but it'll probably be Miranda. Again.
Group
Want: The Band Perry Will: The Band Perry
'Pioneer's a great album and they've had a huge year.
Duo
Want: Thompson Square Will: Florida Georgia Line
This category is stupid
Single
Will: 'Cruise' Want: 'Cruise'
Sue me, I loved it.
Song
Will: 'I Drive Your Truck' Want: 'I Drive Your Truck'
Just such a good song.
And I'm guessing
Justin Moore Kacey Musgraves Thomas Rhett
Will be new artist nominees and Moore will win.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 29, 2014 17:35:59 GMT -5
- The 2014 ACM nominees for Album of the Year will be: Blake Shelton's Based on a True Story, Florida-Georgia Line's Here's to the Good Times, Luke Bryan's Crash My Party, Kacey Musgraves' Same Trailer, Different Park, and Tim McGraw's Two Lanes of Freedom.
* preens* (I need this moment. I've already been wrong with at least two of my other predictions for 2014.) Only one good album in the lot, of course, but a predictable set. I'll be interested to see whether ACM voters dare give this to Blake when critical consensus and the Grammys have already crowned Kacey. I was thinking that Blake's team might decide to ease off in that category in order to forestall backlash, but he isn't likely to win Entertainer, he can't count on winning Male Vocalist with Luke's surge, and Song of the Year will also be a difficult one for him to win. Will his team be willing to risk a Blake shutout? As for the category itself...you know what, never mind. Just read 14887fan's rundown of the Album of the Year category. Way more entertaining. I also predicted that "Every Storm (Runs Out of Rain)" would get a Single of the Year nomination at the ACMs...the 2013 ACMs. So, wrong category, wrong year, but I was kind of, sort of close if you squint and look at the nominations a little askew, right? Right?Likewise, Cassadee got snubbed completely. She's more deserving than Crow for FVOTY. I'm going to disagree with this. Sheryl Crow at least released an album that is legitimately country, and with Sheryl I can at least believe her move to the genre has an artistic foundation rather than a marketing one. As far as I'm concerned, Ashley Monroe and Brandy Clark are more deserving than both, but I think Sheryl Crow had the best case for combining commercial impact with country bona fides. Kellie Pickler would also have been a fine choice, and she was the arguably the most visible among the candidates for the fifth Female Vocalist spot. Well, I suppose Kelly Clarkson was more visible, but I haven't been able to justify either of her CMA Female Vocalist nominations, and wouldn't have been able to justify an ACM nomination for her in that category, either. Unbelievable the biggest star in the genre has yet to receive an eoty nod, wow. I'm assuming from your posting history that you're referring to Carrie Underwood. She has been nominated for and won ACM Entertainer of the Year twice (in 2009 and 2010). It's the CMA equivalent for which she has (absurdly) yet to be nominated. Put Carrie's 2013 resume in the hands of someone with the right constellation of professional affiliations and that candidate would be a lock for an Entertainer nomination and probably the media's answer to who should win (well, with George Strait nominated, maybe not). But too many of the people who make money from her are outside of Music Row, and the ACM/CMA nominations and winners seem mostly to reflect who is making the right people money. Entertainer -I respect him for his legacy and I admire that everyone wants to pay homage to him and all, but George Strait can f**k off from this category. He hasn't had half the year that Aldean, McGraw, or Underwood had this year. Hell, even The Band Perry is more deserving of that spot than he is. If the CMAs and ACMs wanted/want to honor him so desperately since he's on his final tour, a milestone award is more than appropriate. I don't see why they'd have such a hard time giving him one since they seem to be welding them and wheeling them right off of the shelves to Taylor Swift's hands with every awards show. Great segue into my next comment! Oh, c'mon. George Strait's nomination will provide the delicious awkwardness if/when Luke Bryan's fans vote him into the title of "That Blasphemer Who Won Entertainer Over King George"! Also, George Strait's nomination gives me a chance of being right in predicting a "60 for 60"-like campaign to get George the win in Entertainer (which will no doubt be enhanced by feverishly-voting interns at UMG Nashville). But to be serious for a second, you make a good point about creating a milestone award. That said, I don't begrudge George Strait his Entertainer nomination. Think about what he's up against in terms of ageism and country radio's allergy to actual country music. He may not be all that relevant to current mainstream country beyond his big ticket sales, but current mainstream country is barely country, and, as you pointed out, a lot of the most relevant mainstream country is awful right now. I would trade a number of these nominees for others who made much better music with much less mainstream impact. -I'd like to think that it's only a matter of time before Taylor Swift starts to see herself excluded from these nominations lists because she truly couldn't give a damn about Country anymore, but with Hitler Scott Borchetta behind the wheel ( Jesus, please take it), she'll be here for another 70 years past her death. Truth. -Miranda Lambert is in this category for having one hit song. Literally, that's it. Why wasn't Carrie Underwood nominated again? I agree about Carrie, but to be fair to Miranda, she was touring with Dierks Bentley for much of the year, she released the Pistol Annies' sophomore album before the Annies imploded, and "We Were Us" was an additional hit under Miranda's belt. And even if "All Kinds of Kinds" just subbed in for "Hush Hush" after the Annies' implosion, it's an excellent song with a challenging message for country radio and she did release that over other songs on Four the Record. Now, personally, I have been a bit disappointed by Miranda live, especially last year, and I agree that she has been overrewarded in nominations and wins by the ACMs and CMAs of late (especially for "Over You," but also in the Entertainer category this year and in the CMA Female Vocalist category last year). But she wasn't exactly resting on her laurels in 2013. Sony Nashville has no representation in these nominations outside of Miranda Lambert, who clearly has other affiliations aiding her cause, and Carrie's token two (one of which was unavoidable due to the thinness of the Female Vocalist category, and the other of which was decided by a professional committee, not by ACM voters). I think that is telling about the decline in its leverage, which I think is tied to the state of its roster. Warner Nashville surprised me by not doing much outside of Blake (Sheryl Crow and Dan & Shay snuck into thin categories), but it seems to me that Warner Nashville has a rising stable of talent that will give it more sway in years to come (and hopefully, that will help Charlie Worsham). UMG Nashville's gigantic bloc figured most prominently in the nominations, and Big Machine Label Group (including Republic Nashville) fared very well also. I don't mean to imply that labels are the only relevant blocs, because management connections, agency representation, and tour affiliations are increasingly relevant. One can explain many of these nominations (and many of the non-nominations) by doing a Venn diagram and looking at the intersections between the momentum power playing units of Music Row. Jason Aldean snagged only one nomination and was left out of the Entertainer category. He has always been disadvantaged among voters by being on a small indie label (he went on the record about feeling under-nominated prior to his My Kinda Party breakthrough), and I think that it's noteworthy that the only music from Night Train that snagged an ACM or CMA nomination was his collaboration with Luke and Eric in a thin Vocal Event category last year ( Night Train was nominated for a Grammy for Best Country Album, however, in a year when the Grammys nominated mostly commercial music with one critical favorite, and the critical favorite won). Jason had a more comprehensive presence among ACM and CMA nominations when his numbers were bigger and, more to the point, when he hadn't ceded his place as the genre's biggest album and download seller to Luke Bryan. Hunter Hayes' absence from the nominations, following his absence from the CMA nominations, makes me wonder if his team has figured out that the Grammys are more likely to be friendly to him than the ACMs/CMAs. Granted, Hunter hasn't won a Grammy yet, but he has managed a surprisingly strong presence in Grammy nominations for two years in a row. Love all the Lee Brice love, but I bet it will be similar to the way when Heidi Newfield got nominated for everything on the ACM's and...won nothing. You may be right, but I think voters absolutely adore "I Drive Your Truck" (more than they did "Johnny & June") and are likely to crown it in the Song of the Year category as they did at the CMAs. There is a risk of vote-splitting with "Mine Would Be You" (which shares two writers with "I Drive Your Truck"), however.
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Post by jonathanalan on Jan 29, 2014 21:04:36 GMT -5
I can't with these. I used to love these award shows, but now they have become so typical. They need to condense duo/group again. Big & Rich? Dan & Shay?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 21:45:32 GMT -5
Group -Expected list of nominees, but I don't know who will win. LBT really has absolutely no momentum going for them anymore, Lady A has "Compass" and a tour starting up, The Band Perry has had a massive year (and I'd love to see them finally win this), and IDK/IDC about ZBB or EYB. They won't win anyways. Not to take anything away from The Band Perry, but their 2nd album has not yielded the success that their first album did (which is not to say that they haven't been successful; just not to the same degree). However, the same can be said for groups like Lady Antebellum (steady commerical/airplay decline since the Need You Now album) and ZBB (commerical/airplay decline since basically the release of "Colder Weather"/"Knee Deep"). Little Big Town's Tornado 'era' got off to a hot start and I have no doubt that they'll fly into the top tier of the chart once again when they release their next album's first single, but the latter singles from Tornado have definitely helped to create the feeling that they've cooled off. Still, the song "Tornado" peaked at #2 BB/#1 MB within the eligibility period (in March), and while "Your Side Of The Bed" stalled in the 20's, it received a good deal of critical acclaim as well as a Grammy nomination. Back to TBP for the moment...all 3 singles from Pioneer have been pretty big hits; however, the album has only scanned just north of 500k (down a full million from their debut), and the singles haven't sold nearly as well as those from their debut (LBT's album, on the other hand, easily sold over 1 million). I just don't get the sense that "Better Dig Two", "Done", and/or "Don't Let Me Be Lonely" have left quite as much of an impact as the string of hits from their first project did, but of course that owes largely to the massive success of "If I Die Young" and the subsequent momentum it gave them. All in all, I think Group of the Year will be a pretty even battle between TBP and LBT. The Eli Young Band is just moving onto a new album so they won't figure into the picture yet, and Zac Brown Band is hurt by being on their own, small indie label. Lady Antebellum could factor into the discussion as well but UMG will probably only push one of the two (Lady A or LBT) and I'm not sure that they'll turn back to Lady A just yet. So right now I see it as a pretty even battle here, between TBP and LBT. Song WOW WHAT A VARIETY IN COMPARISON TO THE SINGLE AND VIDEO CATEGORIES!!! -Even though I don't like him as a person (never slander Carrie Underwood), I'm really happy to see Gary Allan's "Every Storm (Runs Out of Rain)" on here. Won't win, but pleasant surprise. The ACMs got one right! Yay, +1! -"Mine Would Be You" ........... ok, nvm, -1. -"Mama's Broken Heart" is following in "Over You"'s path of getting way too much love. Great song, great delivery, but nothing extraordinary over other songs released this past year (see: anything released by Kacey Musgraves, Kellie Pickler, etc.). -Why is "Wagon Wheel" occupying a Song of the Year spot at this show, too? I guess it's the 'cool thing to do' to nominate Bob Dylan. -"I Drive Your Truck" will win. I agree that Lee stands a great chance to win here, but out of all these songs (all of which were big hits), "Wagon Wheel" was by far the biggest, so I wouldn't overlook that one. It also just won Darius a Grammy, too. I am really glad to see Gary getting nominated but I don't think he will win, and Blake's song seems the least likely to win this award. I would actually prefer to see Darius win Single and Gary win for song, but I doubt it'll happen that way. But "Wagon Wheel" is very deserving, as it's a 2x Platinum hit and one of the biggest radio hits over the past several years. Still, Lee's song has definitely struck a chord with country industry voters, and the 1-2 punch of Miranda/Kacey for "Mama's Broken Heart" has to put that song in the running as well. Single Didn't I just do this one? Oh, that's right -- that was song! Sorry, I couldn't tell the difference since 3 of the 5 nominees were the same thing. -"Mama's Broken Heart" won't win. -"Wagon Wheel" won't win. -"I Drive Your Truck" won't win. -It comes down to "Highway Don't Care" and "Cruise". Part of me feels like the ACMs won't totally screw this up and will actually award the most deserving nominee in this category. However, since this is the same show that award Thompson Square the Top Vocal Duo award in 2012 and then nominated them in 2013 for Top New Vocal Duo or Group (which they proceeded to lose to...), Florida Georgia Line will come out victorious, if you'd even like to consider anything associated with that disaster of a 'song' a victory by any means. I actually don't think "Cruise" stands much of a chance here. I think the industry will be content to give FGL their token Duo of the Year win, but I have a hard time seeing them crowned elsewhere, despite the massive digital success and cross-over appeal of "Cruise" and their sound in general. Nevertheless, this is a pretty tough category. I am not nearly as confident as you in saying that songs like "Mama's Broken Heart", "Wagon Wheel", and "I Drive Your Truck" will be unable to win this category. Personally I think IDYT and MBH in particular have more of a chance in the Song category than single, but I think "Wagon Wheel" has a great chance in both categories and could be a real challenger to "Highway Don't Care" in this one. I agree about Carrie, but to be fair to Miranda, she was touring with Dierks Bentley for much of the year, she released the Pistol Annies' sophomore album before the Annies imploded, and "We Were Us" was an additional hit under Miranda's belt. And even if "All Kinds of Kinds" just subbed in for "Hush Hush" after the Annies' implosion, it's an excellent song with a challenging message for country radio and she did release that over other songs on Four the Record. Now, personally, I have been a bit disappointed by Miranda live, especially last year, and I agree that she has been overrewarded in nominations and wins by the ACMs and CMAs of late (especially for "Over You," but also in the Entertainer category this year and in the CMA Female Vocalist category last year). But she wasn't exactly resting on her laurels in 2013. Sony Nashville has no representation in these nominations outside of Miranda Lambert, who clearly has other affiliations aiding her cause, and Carrie's token two (one of which was unavoidable due to the thinness of the Female Vocalist category, and the other of which was decided by a professional committee, not by ACM voters). I think that is telling about the decline in its leverage, which I think is tied to the state of its roster. Warner Nashville surprised me by not doing much outside of Blake (Sheryl Crow and Dan & Shay snuck into thin categories), but it seems to me that Warner Nashville has a rising stable of talent that will give it more sway in years to come (and hopefully, that will help Charlie Worsham). UMG Nashville's gigantic bloc figured most prominently in the nominations, and Big Machine Label Group (including Republic Nashville) fared very well also. I don't mean to imply that labels are the only relevant blocs, because management connections, agency representation, and tour affiliations are increasingly relevant. One can explain many of these nominations (and many of the non-nominations) by doing a Venn diagram and looking at the intersections between the momentum power playing units of Music Row. Jason Aldean snagged only one nomination and was left out of the Entertainer category. He has always been disadvantaged among voters by being on a small indie label (he went on the record about feeling under-nominated prior to his My Kinda Party breakthrough), and I think that it's noteworthy that the only music from Night Train that snagged an ACM or CMA nomination was his collaboration with Luke and Eric in a thin Vocal Event category last year ( Night Train was nominated for a Grammy for Best Country Album, however, in a year when the Grammys nominated mostly commercial music with one critical favorite, and the critical favorite won). Jason had a more comprehensive presence among ACM and CMA nominations when his numbers were bigger and, more to the point, when he hadn't ceded his place as the genre's biggest album and download seller to Luke Bryan. Hunter Hayes' absence from the nominations, following his absence from the CMA nominations, makes me wonder if his team has figured out that the Grammys are more likely to be friendly to him than the ACMs/CMAs. Granted, Hunter hasn't won a Grammy yet, but he has managed a surprisingly strong presence in Grammy nominations for two years in a row. As usual, a great post here by 43dudleyvillas. I agree with y'all that Carrie has been sorely overlooked in the Female Vocalist category (despite continuously receiving nominations, but given the lack of females in the format, Carrie is obviously going to get nominated here no matter what she does), and unfortunately it looks like the 2014 ACM's may continue the trend, for many of the reasons that Dudley pointed out. Miranda had a pretty big tour with Dierks, she had the Pistol Annies album, she had a pair of big hits in "Mama's Broken Heart" and "We Were Us" (with both receiving quite a bit of acclaim, especially the former), and a solid top 15 hit with "All Kinds Of Kinds", which, while unable to break into the highest spin rotations during its chart climb, was still a fairly big hit and received glowing reviews as well. Going into Dudley's 2nd paragraph, it seems pretty clear that Sony will push Miranda. She and Carrie are the only nominations from the entire rosters of Arista/Columbia/RCA, and Miranda seems to have the most connections and affiliations. Should she win, she'll probably make the usual speech (and please note my sarcasm here; I mean no disrespect) "Oh wow I can't believe I've won this 14 years in a row...really, this year it should've been Carrie's, or Kacey's too, I mean, she won a Grammy after all". Again, no disrespect to Miranda, but I think it's pretty obvious (from several acceptance speeches she's made in the last couple of years now) that she knows others have been just as deserving if not more-so, and yet she continues to win based more off a "who-knows-who" agenda rather than a measure of success one. I'm sure the artists know all the political reasonings just as well as the labels do, but it seems to me that they are all generally friendly with one another and they truly wish the most successful artist of the year in each category would win. Anyway...a couple of general thoughts from me: The EOTY nominations are about what I expected, although I am a little surprised that Miranda snuck in there over Jason. But again, Sony probably had more clout there. Lee Brice nominated for Male Vocalist was far and away the biggest shocker. It's not that he isn't deserving, but that is the toughest field of all (besides Entertainer) due to the overabundance of male stars within the genre, and I don't have Lee pegged as one of the 5 biggest names. Plus, I seem to remember Curb Records issuing some rather 'snarky' ads in Billboard and Country Aircheck within the past year, touting Lee's success while simultaneously noting his surprising (at least to them) lack of nominations. Furthermore, Curb just hasn't done well at these shows in general, so I'm rather amazed that they got Lee in there. The Female Vocalist nominations are spot-on. I am not at all surprised by Cassadee's exclusion; she couldn't get into the Best New Artist category, so I certainly didn't expect to see her name up for FV. She's had a top 10 hit and pretty good single and album sales, but Sheryl Crow is a much bigger name and Kacey was a shoo-in for a nomination. Ultimately I just don't think Cassadee is quite 'there' yet, and I think the industry compensated her well enough by rewarding her with one of the coveted 5 CRS New Faces slots. Anyway, I am actually hoping that Kacey can win FV, although I'm not quite sure if anyone--including her--will be able to quite knock Miranda off the throne yet. Vocal Duo...am I the only one not surprised by Dan + Shay's inclusion here? Their debut single has risen incredibly fast for a new artist, as it's already top 20. Warner Music Nashville has been pushing/hyping them like crazy, and WMN is a powerhouse. Furthermore, Duo is always a thin field. Dan + Shay won't win (FGL will be taking over from Thompson Square for the foreseeable future), but I fully expected Dan + Shay to get nominated. Album...not much to say here. I really hope they give it to Kacey due to the critical acclaim her album has received. Years from now, I don't think the Blake, Luke, or FGL albums will make any "Best Of" lists. I feel that they are really only nominated here because of how red hot those 3 artists are, in terms of commercial success. Finally, I'm actually not surprised by the lack of nominations for Eric Church. He's been in between albums, really. He had "Like Jesus Does" and "The Outsiders" but that's about it. Other guys like Brad, Kenny, and Dierks have cooled off, unfortunately, so I'm not surprised to see them absent from the nominations. They've cooled off as radio continues to make more room for Luke and FGL instead..
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