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Post by Peterawr on Feb 9, 2014 21:55:36 GMT -5
Let Me Down is so epic.
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Post by jeffw on Feb 11, 2014 20:28:32 GMT -5
[/code] In terms of technical delivery, with the difficulty of the song in mind, what do you think are Kelly's best/most impressive live performances? Kelly performing Already Gone with the Boston Pops. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfp4YqvTTM Not sure how to put the video on here...
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Post by Jack on Feb 11, 2014 20:31:36 GMT -5
[/code] In terms of technical delivery, with the difficulty of the song in mind, what do you think are Kelly's best/most impressive live performances? [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfp4YqvTTM[/video] [/quote] ***flawless coding.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Feb 12, 2014 1:10:06 GMT -5
Can someone post the video of Kelly rehearsing scales? I don't remember where it was from but I remember her weaving through notes, adding vibrato, etc. nvm Billie:03
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 12, 2014 11:56:28 GMT -5
StrongBreakaway can you hyperlink those videos? They're awesome, but make this page really obnoxious. Anyway: Kelly ClarksonUm ....I've seen 2 churches abandoned & for sale today. Guess I didn't make the cut. #โrapture Among my favorite of her posts/tweets.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Feb 12, 2014 12:19:03 GMT -5
sorry guys, thought we'd be done with this page soon anyway - kinda new that Kelly is THIS boring...
Also, the Stronger music video now REALLY has over 100.000.000 views!!!!
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Post by kylecburke on Feb 13, 2014 14:38:19 GMT -5
In Canada 63weeks SONY LW: 153 TW: 73 CLARKSON*KELLY GREATEST HITS-CHAPTER 1 579 +114% 271 62,802
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Feb 14, 2014 9:50:57 GMT -5
How do y'all actually feel about the change of her voice ? I spent a lot of time watching her old performances lately - she sounded so different. Sometimes I felt she was worse than now because she couldn't control her voice very well back then, but many times she wowed - of course. Now she wows even more.
Personally I'm not sad, we won't hear her older voice anymore, 'cuz she sounds INCREDIBLE since the AIEW era! and even in this new voice-era, she keeps getting better and better.
2 things just don't make me enjoy hearing her sing some songs anymore - she spares her voice and the believeablity-factor for songs like SUBG and BTHE is gone - I mean, of course, certain things happened many years ago and she doesn't relate to them that much anymore, but still.
This is probably her most current BTHE performance that I truly enjoy listening to ( cuz this page has not enough videos )
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Feb 14, 2014 9:57:20 GMT -5
Stronger & after singing > Idol Singing > AIEW singing > everything else imo.
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Post by getonthebus on Feb 14, 2014 11:20:49 GMT -5
She's really evolved each era.
Thankful - Her voice was fresh and delivery was more R&B/Mariah
Breakaway - Runaway train. Once she locked in to a song, she just tore through it. SUBG at the VMAs, Walkaway on CDUSA, my god. Impressive, but would have absolutely shredded her voice long-term
My December - Rough, actually. 1) Her voice was still pretty raw from Breakaway and 2) Her self-penned songs were all really vocally taxing, the subjects were near and difficult, so she strained a lot.
AIEW - The most Pop she's ever sounded. Most of it's due to the material and production, and this is basically her version of a Katy Perry album (but with better vocals by far). Thanks, Dr. Luke/RCA
Stronger - Back to a more natural Thankful-ish tone. Her songs are a combination of AIEW melodic strengths and MD's relatability. She's more conservative about runs and preserving her voice, so the BIG moments have a larger impact. Her lower register is a million times better than ever before, which means her ballads are at their best as well. Her softer volume control is way better too.
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Post by franklin on Feb 14, 2014 11:26:02 GMT -5
Stronger & after singing > AIEW singing > Idol Singing > everything else imo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 11:57:24 GMT -5
Well the most obvious first - she has learned that she can't take on too taxing a schedule because it wears her voice out so much more quickly. Even during the end of her Idol run it was obvious that when Kelly's voice is overworked she is more susceptible to getting sick and/or fatigued and having off performances as a result. Breakaway was the worst of it though because on top of a busy schedule, so many of her songs required her to access the top of her range and back then, she rarely if ever took an 'easy' way out by lowering the key or removing the big notes when she wasn't really up to it. So inevitably all that back-to-back touring was going to catch up with her. By the time she got to MD her voice was really just shot, so there wasn't that much she could do to make it better other than take an actual break. However, I do think MD is the era where she really started to tap into her emotive capabilities to their fullest. Her "Maybe" and "Sober" performances from that era still give me chills.
The one benefit we got out of that lesson learned is that now her voice has sort of 'aged' compared to before, in a good way; it's raspier and has more weight to it, which I personally prefer. I think someone said once that it makes her sound older, and I don't really disagree with that but I also don't believe that it makes her sound old, just more experienced. Put another way, hearing Kelly now take on "Because of You" is fantastic, but I don't think I'd be quite as enthralled to hear '05-06 Kelly try to sing "Already Gone."
Aside from the general taking care of herself, I also think she has more control over her voice now; her technique is so much more improved (something else that was likely picked up between the MD and AIEW eras). Her voice was always a beast, but it could get a bit unwieldy.
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 14, 2014 12:09:52 GMT -5
Yeah, Stronger to present is easily her vocal peak, though if I got more specific I'd limit it to the Stronger era, as she was just so on point throughout promo, the SuperBowl, and two tours in which she kept her voice on fire and ran through dozens of covers that she performed well, if not flawlessly. Since then has been excellent, too, but also less work on her voice (and "Underneath The Tree" always seemed to come with at least one flub).
I agree that as run ragged as her voice was during MD, it was when she honed in on the emotive quality of her voice--maybe out of growth, maybe out of necessity, maybe both, but it worked.
I have maintained that the turning point in her vocal care and improvement was touring with Reba. Her voice seemed to get better and better as that tour went on, her range and clarity going back to what it was before the second half of the Breakaway era. Speaking of which, that era gets a lot of flack here for tearing up her voice, but it also gave us brilliant performances in the first part of the era--the VH1, Rolling Stones, and AOL Sessions (MI & Hear Me omggg), a handful of great SUBG performances (Leno, Ellen, SNL), CDUSA, Top of the Pops, etc. She was certainly more inconsistent, but vocal fatigue didn't set in permanently until much later.
Idol was, technically, a near flawless run, though. I'd rank it above AIEW because that era seemed to start kind of rough (some blah MLWSWY performances--Idol was a mess), but she hit her stride on that tour and hasn't looked back.
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Post by rv1709 on Feb 14, 2014 12:14:28 GMT -5
Basically her voice got better as she kept getting fatter.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Feb 14, 2014 12:43:03 GMT -5
Basically her voice got better as she kept getting fatter. As easy as it is to blame her weight fluctuations for everything, I think it's a bit deeper then that. Her voice & weight are/were a result of her stress levels rather than being directly related to each other. It's no shock that her vocal peaks coincide with her "healthiest" weight during the Stronger era and Idol. Your theory would also mean AIEW should've been her vocal peak since she was massive!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 13:24:49 GMT -5
Basically her voice got better as she kept getting fatter. i know i shouldn't make it all about me but i am becoming increasingly convinced that your continued existence is my punishment for stepping down as a mod.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Feb 14, 2014 13:28:42 GMT -5
I think AIEW's problem was that she didn't know how to use the super-power! Time helped her control it and experiment with it. She also doved into some soul 'n blues with all the covers -> Smoastack 2 & WIR. Her vibrato sounds very good now whereas it used to sound very forced and artificial to me (not bad of course), but now it comes directly from the diva inside of her. Also, we prefer SEXY CURVES here aaand Kelly and her new puppy
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Post by Ace on Feb 14, 2014 16:23:19 GMT -5
I still geek out over that MLWS performance on Operation Trunco or wtf ever it was. Those belts are just magnificent. I've also been listening to the AIEW and Stronger Tour performances of Save You...still probably my favorite Kelly song ever, and I love both performances in different ways.
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Post by musicfan134 on Feb 14, 2014 17:16:59 GMT -5
I've been thinking about something that I probably shouldn't being a huge Kelly stan, but I wanted to post here and get others opinions on my thoughts.
I've been thinking of Kelly's career long-term...meaning, where she will be 5, 10 years from now. At this point she's been around for almost 12 years, and I really think she could make it another 10 years at least. But I'm starting to think that she might not want to be famous for much longer. I know she has said (or at least implied) that she was having fun during the Stronger/GH/WIR eras, but now that she's married with a baby on the way I'm wondering if things will be changing in Kellyland. She is also probably set for life financially, so she doesn't exactly need to have big hits anymore. I just get the impression lately that she doesn't want to lead this celebrity lifestyle anyore, and I'm almost starting to dread that she is going to be thinking of retirement sooner than we think.
Thoughts?
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Post by Focus on Feb 14, 2014 20:11:19 GMT -5
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 14, 2014 20:35:48 GMT -5
I've been thinking about something that I probably shouldn't being a huge Kelly stan, but I wanted to post here and get others opinions on my thoughts. I've been thinking of Kelly's career long-term...meaning, where she will be 5, 10 years from now. At this point she's been around for almost 12 years, and I really think she could make it another 10 years at least. But I'm starting to think that she might not want to be famous for much longer. I know she has said (or at least implied) that she was having fun during the Stronger/GH/WIR eras, but now that she's married with a baby on the way I'm wondering if things will be changing in Kellyland. She is also probably set for life financially, so she doesn't exactly need to have big hits anymore. I just get the impression lately that she doesn't want to lead this celebrity lifestyle anyore, and I'm almost starting to dread that she is going to be thinking of retirement sooner than we think. Thoughts? I think she's already said she doesn't plan on doing this forever. I don't think she's going to be like Mariah Carey, putting out music into her 40s with hype and glimpses at chart success. I have no idea what having a baby will do to her career mentality--she probably doesn't either. Stronger/GH/Wrapped In Red could very well have been, knowingly or unknowingly, a last hurrah in the pop music scene. Even with another album out, she could just fall in love with motherhood and not push it in the same way she did those projects. Or she could love it but realize she still wants to get back to work and just be as into the music and getting it out there as she has been for the last two years. I do, however, see her giving up ideals of mainstream success fairly soon. Another big pop album, then a country album, then some fun side projects--broadway album/covers album/duets album, broadway shows, co-headlining tours, etc. to make up the next ten years, then just kinda peace out. I'd like to see her get enough material to make a Greatest Hits Part II as some kind of career closure, but I really don't know what to expect from her from here on out.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 14, 2014 20:42:33 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure as long as she's signed to a big label, she'll still see some sort of mainstream success.
Hopefully she'll go the P!nk route, and learn how to balance her career and family life.
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Post by neally on Feb 14, 2014 23:27:49 GMT -5
New song written by Ali Tamposi (writer of 'Stronger'):
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Post by rv1709 on Feb 15, 2014 0:52:22 GMT -5
for Kelly?
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Feb 15, 2014 14:25:31 GMT -5
With the "right" songs Kelly will always swim on the mainstream. She didn't have to do anything for Stronger WDKY - it was a hit anyway.
It may just seem that she'll step back, but in case she does - an Adele-kinda career would be nice. No-one can beat 21's success, I just mean that Kelly could definitely lay back and watch her songs top charts.
A P!nk-kinda career would be ideal of course!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 14:56:10 GMT -5
The way they've been going about working on album #6, I think it's clear she and the label are aiming for that to be another successful pop era for her. After that though, it's like dbhmr said, there's just no way of knowing what state of mind she'll be in. If I had to place a bet, I'd make it a small one lol, but I would probably lean toward guessing that she'll settle comfortably into a definitively HAC oriented career. Although, it is worth pointing out that CHR has become increasingly friendly to more HAC or AC-driven songs lately (think Roar, Let Her Go, Happy, all the piano ballads) so in the long run this could ironically boomerang its way into working out in her favor anyway.
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 15, 2014 16:02:04 GMT -5
With the "right" songs Kelly will always swim on the mainstream. She didn't have to do anything for Stronger WDKY - it was a hit anyway. It may just seem that she'll step back, but in case she does - an Adele-kinda career would be nice. No-one can beat 21's success, I just mean that Kelly could definitely lay back and watch her songs top charts. A P!nk-kinda career would be ideal of course! I don't think this is true. Stronger was propelled to the top by a big, ubiquitous commercial and further bolstered by her national anthem performance. Kelly is not a big digital seller, and outside of Katy and Rihanna (and Gaga a bit), pop radio basically requires and awesome iTunes performance to do well. Sitting around and watching her songs top CHR has never been a reality for Kelly, and that won't change now.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Feb 16, 2014 5:34:57 GMT -5
With the "right" songs Kelly will always swim on the mainstream. She didn't have to do anything for Stronger WDKY - it was a hit anyway. It may just seem that she'll step back, but in case she does - an Adele-kinda career would be nice. No-one can beat 21's success, I just mean that Kelly could definitely lay back and watch her songs top charts. A P!nk-kinda career would be ideal of course! I don't think this is true. Stronger was propelled to the top by a big, ubiquitous commercial and further bolstered by her national anthem performance. Kelly is not a big digital seller, and outside of Katy and Rihanna (and Gaga a bit), pop radio basically requires and awesome iTunes performance to do well. Sitting around and watching her songs top CHR has never been a reality for Kelly, and that won't change now. I agree but, honestly, not many of the other popstars can survive without publicity (and public awareness around album time) either. No matter how talented. Maybe Katy during the TD era, but still, her hype was the publicity. Adele is one of the few who can probably still sell music based off the quality of the music rather than a media blitz.
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Post by beelzebub666 on Feb 16, 2014 6:53:40 GMT -5
I think Kelly's true success will come when she leaves her popstar days behind her and releases contemporary music for adults. That's when people will take note of her true talent and she will stop being a guilty pleasure and be respected as one of the world's all-time greatest singers.
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Post by Mack on Feb 16, 2014 10:13:11 GMT -5
I think Kelly's true success will come when she leaves her popstar days behind her and releases contemporary music for adults. That's when people will take note of her true talent and she will stop being a guilty pleasure and be respected as one of the world's all-time greatest singers. Is she still seen as a guilty pleasure, though? I feel like most people already do recognize that she's extremely talented and do respect her as an artist, even if they don't love her music. As far back as 2005, I remember her being one of the very few pop acts to make the best-of-the-year lists put out by those snooty music Web sites and magazines that typically refute anything mainstream.
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