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Post by surfy on May 27, 2015 20:51:15 GMT -5
lol yea clock me abit, because we know how kelly checks this thread everyday dying for our inputs. lol bitchplease
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Post by popbox on May 27, 2015 23:10:10 GMT -5
It is really a shame that the era doesn't have the spark that it should have had. She went from having her biggest album/era since Breakaway and in some areas I believe it was bigger (minus the mega sales and non stop number ones....ok maybe not bigger) but she came off an era 2011-2013 of basically having critical and commerical success from DYWS to the Christmas album. Her hits and Christmas album did amazing for todays standards, and her perception with the critics was on a high (her covers, superbowl, commercials, duets, grammy awards, singing for Obama, etc). Her being away having a baby and being married should of been great leading to her return. On paper we had no leaks, we got all this press about her baby which I believe is just as advertised overall as her weight gain and sometimes are associated at the same time. In media world I believe they should cancel each other out with all the support and positive press people gave her. Not to mention the love for her baby. She was on a come back, on paper HBS should of been a smash...It has that sound thats big, however maybe it was better to release in May...it has that summer pop anthem sound and yet the radio sound of Im Yours with Kellys magic sprinkled into it. I agree that she seems to be less interested, and as many have stated thats her role now as a mom and wife which are her top priority. I agree that her promo has been lack luster...Yes she has done some big things but its like stuff all of a sudden then shes dead to the world and then months later Stuff all of a sudden and then Poof gone. I have no idea why this era isnt smashing....Invincible should be a blockbuster..again on paper. I feel like the label did whatever they could within means that Kelly would agree to. The songs and the album just are not clicking...maybe this is one of the times the stars are not aligning. Overall all artists get a flop at some point, we have been lucky that it took her 13 years...also we survived the My December drama...I think we will be ok. Just have to ride this out and see what happens. :) I love her to death regardless and she makes we LOL too much to be mad at this era. But I am sad that its not getting the success it deserves, but even I can't say I connect with the album as much as her last albums. There just seems to be something missing...a spark or somthing...I can't explain it. Some songs have it (ie Nostalgic, Invincible, Someone, HBS) but the ones the public should know are big hitters in my ear. So again, no idea why. Perhaps it is image but I just can't see that being a factor..,none of us really know. The two major problems with your whole write up here are the facts that HBS and Invincible are not huge hits "on paper" or anywhere else. One is generic, juvenile, and dated and the other is forgettable in the hook department and is too AC to have much of a mainstream chance. So the bottom line is this: you can be a big star and have good momentum coming into an era, but if the songs released aren't up to snuff it won't really matter. With the exceptions of mega stars coming off mega momentum like Gaga at BTW's release, Katy at Prism's release, Adele at her next album's release, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 23:38:43 GMT -5
I personally think this whole situation is too similar to Me. I Am Mariah. You have an artist who has reached the end of her contract and for personal reasons doesn't seem interested in doing more than occasional promo (albeit plenty of interviews to spare) + a label that doesn't seem interested in doing more than the minimal effort necessary to put the album out, probably because the artist doesn't seem interested in doing more than occasional promo herself. The thing that makes it so disappointing is that unlike Mariah who wasn't on an upward swing at the time and couldn't afford any slack, Kelly was coming off a really great hot streak. Burnout or not, someone coming off a platinum studio album + gold GH + platinum holiday album + nothing but glowing press about her first kid should have at least been good for 500k.
There's a chance Invincible will be the lightning bolt that rejuvenates things, but the fact that it would even have to come to that...that this era is in real danger of closing out before reaching even half of 500k and with not even a top 20 hit is an absurd dropping of the ball on the part of everyone involved - the label, her management, Kelly herself. But I can't even be bothered to be disappointed anymore or make a checklist of all the supposed mistakes made, because a) I'm now more convinced than ever she's leaving RCA, so there was apparently a mutual agreement to not give a damn and b) I got a great album from one of my favorite singers that I still listen to regularly, and shouldn't that be all that matters? Yeah I'd like Kelly to 'win,' but if having a fave is just about winning that's what Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are for.
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Post by mattybmb on May 28, 2015 8:57:41 GMT -5
There are too many two-sided variables: Some great vocal performances, just not enough of them; a fantastic album with no filler, but no instant #1s. Here's hoping Invincible sneaks up on the era. But I'm with a lot of others: We got a decent album we can't stop listening to. Anything else is a bonus.
This is probably a weird segue, but has anyone heard Jessie J's Flashlight? In this generation of suing for copyright, a lot of folks have been saying Flashlight is practically a rip off of Beyoncé's Halo and Kelly's Already Gone.
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Post by bitchplease on May 28, 2015 10:24:07 GMT -5
wish we had some real insider posting here, someone who either works with the label or for team kelly so we know whats really going on behind the scene this era.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on May 28, 2015 13:47:33 GMT -5
His name is Jack. Anyway...random thought but One Minute just came on and the background murmuring in the chorus reminds me of the original American Idol theme song for some reason.
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Post by QAF on May 28, 2015 13:50:51 GMT -5
Where the hell is the video?
Yay! I finally heard Invincible on the radio and it was epic. And when introducing the song, the DJ said the "song is going to be huge." It gave me hope.
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Post by kmbgs on May 28, 2015 15:21:51 GMT -5
His name is Jack. Anyway...random thought but One Minute just came on and the background murmuring in the chorus reminds me of the original American Idol theme song for some reason. The Idol theme was a smash and so was OM
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on May 28, 2015 15:25:26 GMT -5
LOL.
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Post by BDGeek on May 28, 2015 15:35:05 GMT -5
I hate this thread.
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Post by mattybmb on May 28, 2015 18:57:03 GMT -5
How come? Or am I being vapid and missing the obvious. I've missed something...
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Post by getonthebus on May 28, 2015 19:53:07 GMT -5
Since we're almost a month away from the tour starting...Have we heard anything about how Meet and Greets are going to work on this tour?
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on May 28, 2015 20:11:38 GMT -5
honestly i get a headache, reading some of these post. like i don't understand some of these sentences
maybe it can troll us really good or maybe it's young idk?? but like it needs to get it 2gether cuz im very close to putting it on ignore
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Post by Focus on May 28, 2015 20:22:29 GMT -5
Kelly ClarksonVerified account kelly🌷💞_clarkson Outtake of cool footage shot today for the summer tour! Can't wait! Glam: @ashes2lashes Photography: @weisseubanks 9:13 PM - 28 May 2015 Ashley Donovan @ashes2lashes 8m8 minutes ago Modern Marilyn vibes on kelly🌷💞_clarkson! Loved creating this look for an exclusive video filmed by @weisseubanks for her upcoming tour!Makeup & Hair: #ashleydonovanbeauty #celestineagency #sneakpeek #classicbeauty #kellyclarkson #marilynmonroe…
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Post by bigb0882 on May 28, 2015 21:27:33 GMT -5
Why can Kelly look that good for a video shoot that will probably be played for all of 3 minutes on her tour but she can't look like that for big TV appearances? She looks phenomenal there but they could do that all the time if they wanted!
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Post by George on May 28, 2015 21:27:55 GMT -5
Where the hell is the video? Yay! I finally heard Invincible on the radio and it was epic. And when introducing the song, the DJ said the "song is going to be huge." It gave me hope. Heard the song twice on the radio today as well! It was a HAC station though, which also started playing Sia's "Elastic Love" a lot more as well!
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Post by nightshade on May 29, 2015 1:17:16 GMT -5
VEVO AU says on their twitter the Invincible music video is coming in an hour.
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Post by neally on May 29, 2015 2:33:27 GMT -5
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Post by Revelry on May 29, 2015 6:06:09 GMT -5
Not terrible for Kelly standards, but I hate how they emphasized the 'scared little girl' line. It would've been nice if this was a bit more inclusive/universal. I did like the "breaking out of the box" concept though.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 7:21:06 GMT -5
I like the video. she looks really good, as well. The song is catchy but needs a sponsor to really take off. It's the perfect song for a smash commercial.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on May 29, 2015 7:41:06 GMT -5
I actually love the video. For Kelly standards (lately), the video is a masterpiece! She looks the best she has this so far this era and it has an actual concept. Overall very visually appealing. Still don't agree with the single choice. Just waiting on these reasons the song should smash to come true...and I really hope they do.
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Post by ILLUSION on May 29, 2015 7:51:15 GMT -5
Cute video but I wish the concept was more centered around her...with her weight criticism and such. I know she kinda already did that but what a great message that would send to others!
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Post by mattybmb on May 29, 2015 8:44:00 GMT -5
Attachment DeletedFeisty Kelly rocks!! I'm really happy with the video. It has more Kelly, rather than short, short interludes of her head, and a great message coupled with extraordinary pipes. This song needs to catch fire with the public.
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Post by Envoirment on May 29, 2015 9:00:18 GMT -5
Not sure if it's been mentioned but Kelly's in BBC Radio 1's live lounge next week Thursday. Will likley be singing "Invincible" + a cover. :)
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Post by getonthebus on May 29, 2015 9:17:19 GMT -5
Get this song in Biggest Loser promos when the season starts this Summer, RCA.
The video is nice and self-affirming without being preachy, BUT homegirl needs more moves than "raise hands, look at camera from the side." She doesn't look confident exposed in the video, and is just sort of wondering around that room. 3:27 is the best part. Would've really liked more of the dancers and less Kelly in a warehouse.
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Post by bigb0882 on May 29, 2015 10:00:33 GMT -5
I love when artists do Live Lounge because they often do absolutely amazing and out of the box covers. I hope Kelly does something totally unexpected!
The video is great. It is easily her best video in a long long time. I mean, it isn't BTHE or BOY but we never will get one of those again, I am afraid. Kelly looked like she really cared and was truly into shooting this video, I love that. It shows that this is her favorite song on the album.
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Post by QAF on May 29, 2015 10:04:43 GMT -5
Love the video. Finally. Had to watch it without sound though.
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Post by Unhinged on May 29, 2015 10:29:28 GMT -5
Solid video.
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Post by bb on May 29, 2015 11:43:05 GMT -5
Really glad she went with the gendered element of the song. It makes it a lot less "Dark Side" esque and a lot more interesting / song specific.
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Post by mattybmb on May 29, 2015 12:01:38 GMT -5
Just figured out what would top off the video.
I'd have loved to see Kelly break out of her own box - which was what I initially thought the warehouse was - at the end of the song. Or those massive high notes.
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