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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 10:23:30 GMT -5
Do we know if this was taped when she was there performing HBS last month? She did say awhile ago when she first did promo for the album that she had pre-taped a performance of Invincible that would air later but I believe she never said for which tv show it was... I'm pretty sure it was for Ellen... We'll see...
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Post by surfy on May 24, 2015 11:36:21 GMT -5
I don't like the Open Mic idea, even moreso if it's taking up a slot that could be used for another song. Guess I know when I'll be heading to pee/get another beer. I love the idea personally! Do you know how cool that is for an artist like Kelly to do that? Also, she will have plenty of stage time. I wouldn't worry about that.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 12:00:07 GMT -5
I love the idea as well! Imagine what it will be like for all these people! You go from recording a video by yourself at home, then to youtube and then to a huge venue in front of 10 000 people! I think it's a great idea! Plus I don't think we're gonna get less Kelly because of that, this just will make the show 5 minutes longer no? I'm almost tempted to record a video... but I would probably just die on stage lol Well, not that they would pick me anyway lol
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Post by Focus on May 24, 2015 12:09:48 GMT -5
If this is the type of talent that submits videos to Kelly and that Kelly might pick, then I'll be happy to watch and listen to them during the concerts I attend. :) Melinda Doolittle β@mdoolittle 14h14 hours ago No, but seriously kellyπ·π_clarksonβ¦this girl is a BEAST!!!!! Enjoy! β¦ 7 retweets 27 favorites
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Post by getonthebus on May 24, 2015 15:18:50 GMT -5
I don't like the Open Mic idea, even moreso if it's taking up a slot that could be used for another song. Guess I know when I'll be heading to pee/get another beer. I love the idea personally! Do you know how cool that is for an artist like Kelly to do that? Also, she will have plenty of stage time. I wouldn't worry about that. Yeah it's cute and she's so generous to offer up the opportunity to unknown singers, but I'm paying to see her. She should find a different outlet (start a label, start a YouTube series) to promote great artists who haven't been discovered yet. She's got six albums plus covers so she's already cutting great material in order to fit it in a single show. Hopefully it's a duet situation.
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Post by area51 on May 24, 2015 18:32:01 GMT -5
Album (and whatever else they are counting these days) is down to 115. Still time to rebound with a hit. Anyone have total album sales to date? 115 93 76 11 Piece By Piece, Kelly Clarkson 1 I really enjoyed that Voice performance linked above. Thanks. Album sales only, through 05-17-15: CLARKSON*KELLY PIECE BY PIECE 2600 167000
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Post by james on May 24, 2015 22:57:13 GMT -5
Album (and whatever else they are counting these days) is down to 115. Still time to rebound with a hit. Anyone have total album sales to date? 115 93 76 11 Piece By Piece, Kelly Clarkson 1 I really enjoyed that Voice performance linked above. Thanks. Album sales only, through 05-17-15: CLARKSON*KELLY PIECE BY PIECE 2600 167000 She's finally overtaken Stronger's first week sales!!!! #slaykelly
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Post by CriminallySmooth on May 25, 2015 1:02:36 GMT -5
It's a little ridiculous to think that the open mic thing will replace a song. Time limits aren't what prevent a singer from singing their entire catalogue. We will obviously still get a full setlist PLUS an open mic performance. One song from an unknown won't kill the show. Get over yourselves.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 3:25:36 GMT -5
The open mic idea is cute and I'm not opposed to it, but IMO this idea is not worth it unless it results in someone actually being discovered and signed. Otherwise it's less finding some great singers, and more glorified karaoke. American Idol always struggled to rise above being the latter, and sometimes I wonder if Kelly understands just how unique she really was in that regard.
Even if doesn't result in discovering some new talent, letting one person sing one song isn't going to take away from Kelly in any way - I assume that it will be a welcome rest for Kelly's voice, just without having to leave the stage. But Kelly could sing her entire catalog and 10 covers, and there would be fans salty b/c this is five minutes that we could have spent hearing her do another song.
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Post by kmbgs on May 25, 2015 8:20:05 GMT -5
I think the open mic would be most entertaining if it was a duet between Kelly and the person
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Post by mattybmb on May 25, 2015 9:23:30 GMT -5
I think open mic is a great idea. Not only will it give Kelly a fun reprieve, but it's a unique thing to do.
It's fantastic for fans too. An experience. How many people can say they sang at a Kelly Clarkson concert to thousands of people. Excited to see this.
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Post by mattybmb on May 26, 2015 15:51:16 GMT -5
Still in love with Kelly's Voice performance; I'm even enjoying Meghan's vocals more.
Has anyone found their love for Invincible spike after some great live performances? I loved the song on first listen, but like a lot of people here, it burned a little quicker than the rest.
Now, I've been listening to it for weeks, and I just can't get enough.
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Post by kmbgs on May 26, 2015 16:15:34 GMT -5
Honestly I'm over Invincible and am basically listening to LYTF and letting mine fall at the fact that it's being paid dust
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Post by james on May 26, 2015 20:19:57 GMT -5
This is possibly the worst handled era of recent times.
Kelly has come off SIX albums selling more than 800K and this one is struggling to reach 200K despite having a successful run into the era (it's not like she was away from the scene for 7 years).
Sure she's not a huge name in pop music anymore, but she should at least be able to shift 500K copies.
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Post by bigb0882 on May 26, 2015 21:59:26 GMT -5
It is clearly going to take a big hit to move 500,000 copies. I am afraid there is no WDKY on this album so I don't see it happening. The only way they are shifting more copies is to set her up with a hit and re-release.
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Post by G-Reg on May 27, 2015 0:53:21 GMT -5
This is possibly the worst handled era of recent times. Kelly has come off SIX albums selling more than 800K and this one is struggling to reach 200K despite having a successful run into the era (it's not like she was away from the scene for 7 years). Sure she's not a huge name in pop music anymore, but she should at least be able to shift 500K copies. After The Spirit Indestructible I'm almost thankful for anything. It is kind of weird that this album is selling so poorly. I feel like for her she needs to combine great pop/rock with a great image, which she doesn't really have this era. HBS and Invincible are alright. I miss Rockelly though. Even if this era ends up being almost over (or picks up speed) she'll get hits in the future. She has to have another baby though first y'all.
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Post by kmbgs on May 27, 2015 7:48:09 GMT -5
I don't know I always had extremely low expectations for the commercial performance of this era. Once I saw how short the spread between announcing the 1st single and the album release was, I had a feeling Kelly was not hyping this thing as much as she has all of her previous releases, which is fine. The tour should be fun and I am really looking forward to that.
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Post by bitchplease on May 27, 2015 11:14:41 GMT -5
I don't know I always had extremely low expectations for the commercial performance of this era. Once I saw how short the spread between announcing the 1st single and the album release was, I had a feeling Kelly was not hyping this thing as much as she has all of her previous releases, which is fine. The tour should be fun and I am really looking forward to that. yea me too. ive been saying this since release of HBS. for me its her weight/image. its hard to have a successful pop era looking like that. time for a reality check kelly! she'll loose the weight when she wants too of course, til then im just here for the music. i still listen to GGTB in the blue LYTF DWM HBS daily. that open mic idea is great for whoever getting the spots n exposure, but suck for me who bought tix to listen to her singing. whatver tho, its only 1 song. kelly continues to be the 'anti-pop star', not only she likes to share spotlight w other artists or talent show contestants, now she wants to share spotlight w us the fans!! sigh i wish she was more shallow n into herself sometimes lol whats happening with Invincible btw?? the song isnt connecting with general public yet. 2 high profile performances last week couldnt get it to iTunes top 100. she did great, best vocal performance of the night, ur fave could never etc etc,.. but those didnt matter if the song isnt connecting. take a look at meghan/john duet, performance was blah, nothing special, even meghan lost her magic IMO without the 50's sound, but the song is catchy n cute and the song saw a huge spike on iTunes. hurry up get pregnant w ur second baby kelly & pls reflect on this era. and pls dont blame label and promo. she did do some important/high profile promo slots. people are just not buying the product (the songs+kelly's image&public's perception)
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 27, 2015 11:18:56 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by mattybmb on May 27, 2015 11:28:52 GMT -5
I don't know I always had extremely low expectations for the commercial performance of this era. Once I saw how short the spread between announcing the 1st single and the album release was, I had a feeling Kelly was not hyping this thing as much as she has all of her previous releases, which is fine. The tour should be fun and I am really looking forward to that. yea me too. ive been saying this since release of HBS. for me its her weight/image. its hard to have a successful pop era looking like that. time for a reality check kelly! she'll loose the weight when she wants too of course, til then im just here for the music. i still listen to GGTB in the blue LYTF DWM HBS daily. that open mic idea is great for whoever getting the spots n exposure, but suck for me who bought tix to listen to her singing. whatver tho, its only 1 song. kelly continues to be the 'anti-pop star', not only she likes to share spotlight w other artists or talent show contestants, now she wants to share spotlight w us the fans!! sigh i wish she was more shallow n into herself sometimes lol whats happening with Invincible btw?? the song isnt connecting with general public yet. 2 high profile performances last week couldnt get it to iTunes top 100. she did great, best vocal performance of the night, ur fave could never etc etc,.. but those didnt matter if the song isnt connecting. take a look at meghan/john duet, performance was blah, nothing special, even meghan lost her magic IMO without the 50's sound, but the song is catchy n cute and the song saw a huge spike on iTunes. hurry up get pregnant w ur second baby kelly & pls reflect on this era. and pls dont blame label and promo. she did do some important/high profile promo slots. people are just not buying the product (the songs+kelly's image&public's perception) I disagree with you on the image points; if anything, sadly, that's given the album more exposure. I've never understood the whole, 'people won't buy her album because she's gained weight'. Yeah, because I can really see her with my ears. 'its hard to have a successful pop era looking like that. time for a reality check Kelly'. Really? Who needs trolls when she has fans who talk like this. The reason Kelly's so popular is because of her down-to-earth personality, and her refusal to conform to stick-thin pop star stereotypes. Add in a voice that destroys 90% of the competition and you're onto a winner. I'd rather she stick to her guns than lose weight for the sake of a few opinions.
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Post by bitchplease on May 27, 2015 11:42:32 GMT -5
numbers don't lie.
im not bashing her or askin her to do anything (she didnt even listen to legendary clive davis, why would she listen to some random poster on the internet anyway). we were discussing about this era n the reason why its not doing good. some people think its promo, i think its the weight , opinion is like asshole, everyone has one, chill.
its not as simple as kelly looks fat, i wont buy her album. no its not that direct. i wont get into that. posters here should get the concept. public's perception holds a very important role in the industry.
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Post by mattybmb on May 27, 2015 11:51:06 GMT -5
Numbers are open to interpretation.
I'm not denying you your opinion, I'm disagreeing with my own. Kelly's weight has fluctuated for years: For example, the AIEW era. The promo points make more sense. There wasn't much buzz or anticipation leading towards PBP; it just kind of dropped. Major fans knew it was coming, but other, more casual listeners, didn't. Then there's the decline of physical records and the fact Kelly has been around for 13 years.
Public perception of Kelly is almost completely positive. She's warm, funny and easy to connect with.
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Post by inclinations on May 27, 2015 11:52:04 GMT -5
The songs aren't this albums downfall. The first single just was not memorable, and didn't stand out enough. It reminds me of "Not Myself Tonight" by Christina because you can just tell both that and Heartbeat Song were just tacked on to be released as the first single. They should have acted immediately when they realized the song wasn't clicking and rushed out something else, make it appear as a promo single or whatever, instead they sat on it and just hoped it would become something (and it did ok on the charts, but didn't really connect with the audience) they dropped the ball by not presenting this album properly. Kelly's lack of interest in the project is apparent, but I attribute that mainly to her being a new mother, and can't fault her for so.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 27, 2015 12:01:21 GMT -5
im not bashing her or askin her to do anything hurry up get pregnant w ur second baby kelly & pls reflect on this era. and pls dont blame label and promo.
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Post by kylecburke on May 27, 2015 12:13:45 GMT -5
It is really a shame that the era doesn't have the spark that it should have had. She went from having her biggest album/era since Breakaway and in some areas I believe it was bigger (minus the mega sales and non stop number ones....ok maybe not bigger) but she came off an era 2011-2013 of basically having critical and commerical success from DYWS to the Christmas album. Her hits and Christmas album did amazing for todays standards, and her perception with the critics was on a high (her covers, superbowl, commercials, duets, grammy awards, singing for Obama, etc). Her being away having a baby and being married should of been great leading to her return.
On paper we had no leaks, we got all this press about her baby which I believe is just as advertised overall as her weight gain and sometimes are associated at the same time. In media world I believe they should cancel each other out with all the support and positive press people gave her. Not to mention the love for her baby.
She was on a come back, on paper HBS should of been a smash...It has that sound thats big, however maybe it was better to release in May...it has that summer pop anthem sound and yet the radio sound of Im Yours with Kellys magic sprinkled into it.
I agree that she seems to be less interested, and as many have stated thats her role now as a mom and wife which are her top priority.
I agree that her promo has been lack luster...Yes she has done some big things but its like stuff all of a sudden then shes dead to the world and then months later Stuff all of a sudden and then Poof gone.
I have no idea why this era isnt smashing....Invincible should be a blockbuster..again on paper.
I feel like the label did whatever they could within means that Kelly would agree to. The songs and the album just are not clicking...maybe this is one of the times the stars are not aligning.
Overall all artists get a flop at some point, we have been lucky that it took her 13 years...also we survived the My December drama...I think we will be ok. Just have to ride this out and see what happens.
:) I love her to death regardless and she makes we LOL too much to be mad at this era. But I am sad that its not getting the success it deserves, but even I can't say I connect with the album as much as her last albums. There just seems to be something missing...a spark or somthing...I can't explain it. Some songs have it (ie Nostalgic, Invincible, Someone, HBS) but the ones the public should know are big hitters in my ear. So again, no idea why.
Perhaps it is image but I just can't see that being a factor..,none of us really know.
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Post by mattybmb on May 27, 2015 12:24:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't say flop. It's not terrible, it's just not to the standard a lot of us are used to. It's still a #1 album with a lead single that did moderately well. Heartbeat Song lasted longer than expected, but I agree it shouldn't have been left as long before a second single.
On paper, like you said, this era should be smashing, but maybe it's not meant to. Or 'that' moment where everything clicks just hasn't happened yet.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 27, 2015 12:48:21 GMT -5
I wasn't expecting huge numbers out of this era, but I do have to say I am disappointed if it struggles to sell 200K and doesn't get a big hit out of it. I know some would contend Heartbeat Song was a bit hit, but I wanted at least MKIA numbers. Hopefully Invincible gives this era a bit of longevity, but it may just have to remain a gem of an album that mostly only fans know about. I feel like all my favs have at least one of those so I guess it was Kelly's time lol.
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Post by bitchplease on May 27, 2015 12:52:03 GMT -5
lol yea clock me abit, because we know how kelly checks this thread everyday dying for our inputs. lol
back to the album topic, RCA finally gives Invincible a pop release. i hope they will push it and really try to help the single to have a chance on pop radio. the song is doing well on Hot AC since its release date, but thats a given. but i have to say i got really dissapointed with the way Hot AC treated HBS. i dont really get the kelly's lack of interest in the project talks tho. what's she supposed to do?? she's been doing hundreds of new radio interviews, she's performed on 2 US award shows , 2 performances slots on both Idol & The Voice, she did fallon, GMA, ellen, she shot 2 music videos, did UK, Australia, Canada (well canada didnt really count lol), and is about to go on a big US tour, while also being a new mom and is taking her baby everywhere with her. i say kelly is very interested in this project. she could be like other singers/moms britney or Xtina who just dont really give a crap about their music careers and just dont really perform or promote their new materials.
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Post by QAF on May 27, 2015 13:34:48 GMT -5
I'll join in in the chorus that I'm disappointed this album isn't doing as well as it should. I honestly believe it is her best work since Breakaway an I'm just saddened that people don't know how good it is. They're missing out.
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Post by Rumors on May 27, 2015 16:30:21 GMT -5
Album sales - cut to the main point - people may just simply be tired of/burnt out on Kelly. Like someone said she has been out for 13 years with a lot of successful singles under her belt. She did have a baby but I think she came back really quickly with this album. With her GH and Christmas album, it didn't seem like she was gone at all. I don't think promo or HBS was the problem. And if you aren't feeling this album like you think you should be....maybe just take a break from Kelly. It happens.
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