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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 4:14:46 GMT -5
I haven't listend to the remixes yet
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Post by QAF on Mar 6, 2016 7:58:29 GMT -5
Does anybody have a link to the live performance of Tightrope from Indianapolis? I've looked for it and can't find it. Someone made a pretty cool video that synch the song with some other live performance though.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Mar 6, 2016 9:42:49 GMT -5
Kelly, Zooey and Bonnie playing 'Things' on Ellen
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Mar 6, 2016 10:50:10 GMT -5
I don't really care for any of the remixed versions. I would rather they waited a couple of weeks and added some of her unreleased songs (Don't Ever Give Up on Me, Tell Me a Lie, Don't, ext) vs releasing it so quick.
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Post by Focus on Mar 6, 2016 17:15:08 GMT -5
Keith Caulfield keith _caulfield 6m6 minutes ago .kelly🌷💞_Clarkson's "Piece by Piece" album rockets from No. 120 to No. 6 on the billboard 200 chart: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6898330/the-1975-no-1-album-billboard-200 … The 1975 Earns First No. 1 Album on Billboard 200 Chart3/6/2016 by Keith Caulfield snipKelly Clarkson’s Piece by Piece album zooms 120-6 with 44,000 units (up 682 percent) and 19,000 copies sold (up 676 percent, with its best sales frame since its second week on sale). The set rockets back into the top 10 for the first time since its No. 1 debut (March 21, 2015) thanks to an emotional performance by Clarkson on the Feb. 25 edition of American Idol. On the show, she sang a piano ballad rendition of the album’s title track, which brought the diva (and Idol judge Keith Urban) to tears. Kelly Clarkson on Emotional 'Idol' Performance: 'Crying on National TV Isn't Really My Idea of a Good Time' A day after the performance, Clarkson recorded an Idol-inspired version of “Piece by Piece,” and it was commercially released on Feb. 29. It was also added to the deluxe digital version of the album. Clarkson’s 114-position leap on the Billboard 200 chart is the largest positional jump into the top 10 in five years. An album last had a larger leap on the Jan. 22, 2011-dated list, when the Country Strong soundtrack vaulted 149-10 (for a 139 position jump). snip read the whole thing here: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6898330/the-1975-no-1-album-billboard-200
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Post by musicfan134 on Mar 6, 2016 18:39:44 GMT -5
Blackmailed by her label? That sounds like a healthy relationship.
Unless radio picks up PBP, this is probably about as far as this is gonna get. I'm still very impressed by how it's done and how it just came out of nowhere, but without radio support sales are going to continue to fall. I do think the label dropped the ball to an extent on this one, but I'm not quite sure what else they could've done to get pop radio more on board with it either.
However, this whole thing has been nothing but good news for Kelly herself. It proves she can still have a hit and sell music which is good for her as she pursues a new recording contract.
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Post by otternobetter87 on Mar 6, 2016 19:35:59 GMT -5
oh gosh... true or not, she probably shouldn't have said that. JMO.
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Post by Focus on Mar 6, 2016 22:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by pnobelysk on Mar 6, 2016 23:02:46 GMT -5
Blackmailed by her label? That sounds like a healthy relationship. Unless radio picks up PBP, this is probably about as far as this is gonna get. I'm still very impressed by how it's done and how it just came out of nowhere, but without radio support sales are going to continue to fall. I do think the label dropped the ball to an extent on this one, but I'm not quite sure what else they could've done to get pop radio more on board with it either. However, this whole thing has been nothing but good news for Kelly herself. It proves she can still have a hit and sell music which is good for her as she pursues a new recording contract. Radio is catching up right now . 59 on pop , close to where invincible got . 30s on hot ac, close to her original peak. And top 30 on ac
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 7, 2016 8:45:07 GMT -5
Blackmailed by her label? That sounds like a healthy relationship. Unless radio picks up PBP, this is probably about as far as this is gonna get. I'm still very impressed by how it's done and how it just came out of nowhere, but without radio support sales are going to continue to fall. I do think the label dropped the ball to an extent on this one, but I'm not quite sure what else they could've done to get pop radio more on board with it either. However, this whole thing has been nothing but good news for Kelly herself. It proves she can still have a hit and sell music which is good for her as she pursues a new recording contract. wut
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Post by getonthebus on Mar 7, 2016 10:41:11 GMT -5
Blackmailed is probably the wrong word, but we already knew that they forced her to do My Life Would Suck Without You with him after My December. That's clearly what she's referring to.
EDIT: That said, careful sis, or you'll have to testify.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Mar 7, 2016 10:56:27 GMT -5
Why do good people always question what they do and bad people don't? Kelly should bare it all - especially now that she couldn't have any consequences. Throughout the years we've got a lot of pieces of her professional life and I think it's good to know - especially for ongoing artists!
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 7, 2016 11:30:59 GMT -5
I just read an article on EW.com about this - I actually think what Kelly said was very precise and smart. It's clear the "blackmail" was referring to MLWSWY (although, I'm certainly team blackmail in this case because I freaking live for that song still) and not SUBG. And I like that she said she can't comment on Kesha's case because she doesn't know, but then discussed how she can comment on his character. As a lawyer, I appreciate that distinction!
Also, chuckled when she said she loves everyone she works with - something tells me she's not loving Ryan Tedder.
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Post by AP on Mar 7, 2016 11:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 7, 2016 11:50:06 GMT -5
Yas gurl!!
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Post by musicfan134 on Mar 7, 2016 11:50:48 GMT -5
Halfway to gold!!! It's also at least slowing down it's descent on iTunes. I hope pop radio picks up a little this week; it's obvious the song is connecting so I'm hoping it can hit top 40 on pop by the end of the week!
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Post by trustypepper on Mar 7, 2016 12:11:52 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear the news about the Hot 100 debut today. Fingers crossed for Top 10!
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 7, 2016 13:36:22 GMT -5
The blackmail story is getting some traction. Top story on Billboard right now
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Post by foxxden on Mar 7, 2016 13:55:03 GMT -5
jeez, she can't let the dr luke stuff go can she? i always felt she comes across as biting the hand that feeds her and crapping over her biggest hits (since u been gone, behind these hazel eyes, my life would suck without you) in the process. not a good look on her considering all the success those songs brought her.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Mar 7, 2016 14:21:10 GMT -5
jeez, she can't let the dr luke stuff go can she? i always felt she comes across as biting the hand that feeds her and crapping over her biggest hits (since u been gone, behind these hazel eyes, my life would suck without you) in the process. not a good look on her considering all the success those songs brought her. Do you even know what you're talking about? This is the first time she's ever spoken about him directly in a negative way. She didn't say anything about those songs nor is she biting any hands that feed her. She fulfilled her record contract with RCA and doesn't rely on Dr. Luke for hits, so try again with these boring 2007 criticisms.
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Post by imreadynow on Mar 7, 2016 14:28:18 GMT -5
jeez, she can't let the dr luke stuff go can she? i always felt she comes across as biting the hand that feeds her and crapping over her biggest hits (since u been gone, behind these hazel eyes, my life would suck without you) in the process. not a good look on her considering all the success those songs brought her. How on earth are you blaming Kelly in this situation?
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Post by toomuchboy on Mar 7, 2016 14:29:29 GMT -5
She doesn't owe Dr. Luke anything.
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Post by Dylan :) on Mar 7, 2016 14:41:03 GMT -5
Piece By Piece debuts at #8 on the Hot 100!
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Post by ampersand on Mar 7, 2016 14:46:47 GMT -5
I don't think there was anything wrong with what she said. Even before she tweeted about Dr. Luke or did that interview, we've known they had a tense working relationship.
There was an excerpt from a book (the title of which I can't remember atm) posted here a couple of weeks ago that revealed she wrote the bridge for SUBG without receiving an official writing credit. And, as has already been pointed out, she heavily implied that she rewrote MLWSWY and didn't get a writing credit for that either because the label didn't want her name on it, especially after MD. It's obvious that she and Dr. Luke didn't exactly see eye-to-eye on almost all the songs they collaborated on. I can see how not getting writing credits for those songs may have soured the relationship even further.
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Post by foxxden on Mar 7, 2016 14:48:26 GMT -5
jeez, she can't let the dr luke stuff go can she? i always felt she comes across as biting the hand that feeds her and crapping over her biggest hits (since u been gone, behind these hazel eyes, my life would suck without you) in the process. not a good look on her considering all the success those songs brought her. Do you even know what you're talking about? This is the first time she's ever spoken about him directly in a negative way. She didn't say anything about those songs nor is she biting any hands that feed her. She fulfilled her record contract with RCA and doesn't rely on Dr. Luke for hits, so try again with these boring 2007 criticisms. 2007 criticisms? She's brought it up again in 2016 so it's fair game to comment on. Several of those involved (including Kelly) in the the making of those songs have spoken up with their versions of the story over the years and the general consensus seems to be that Kelly either didn't want to record them at all initially or wasn't happy with the final product. This shows bad judgement from a business perspective on her part. At the end of the day, those songs prevented her from just being the "American Idol" winner and turned her into a huge pop star at a critical point in her career. I would just like to see her acknowledge the success and opportunities those songs brought her - especially since she has barely been able to even come close to those level of hits since without working with Dr. Luke again (like she did with "My Life Would Suck Without You").
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Post by Focus on Mar 7, 2016 14:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by mattybmb on Mar 7, 2016 15:16:34 GMT -5
Do you even know what you're talking about? This is the first time she's ever spoken about him directly in a negative way. She didn't say anything about those songs nor is she biting any hands that feed her. She fulfilled her record contract with RCA and doesn't rely on Dr. Luke for hits, so try again with these boring 2007 criticisms. 2007 criticisms? She's brought it up again in 2016 so it's fair game to comment on. Several of those involved (including Kelly) in the the making of those songs have spoken up with their versions of the story over the years and the general consensus seems to be that Kelly either didn't want to record them at all initially or wasn't happy with the final product. This shows bad judgement from a business perspective on her part. At the end of the day, those songs prevented her from just being the "American Idol" winner and turned her into a huge pop star at a critical point in her career. I would just like to see her acknowledge the success and opportunities those songs brought her - especially since she has barely been able to even come close to those level of hits since without working with Dr. Luke again (like she did with "My Life Would Suck Without You"). The only person who can speak for Kelly's motivations is Kelly herself, and she has never said she never wanted to record any of the songs you listed. She's been very vocal about changing the composition and lyrics to various songs, but she's never dismissed or spat on them. So she didn't like working with Dr Luke, so what? He isn't the predominant force behind Kelly's success, Kelly is. As for that success, I'm pretty sure Stronger is her bestselling single, and Dr Luke had nothing to do with that. Plus, just look at what's happening right now in her career: Queen be slaying.
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Post by foxxden on Mar 7, 2016 15:30:15 GMT -5
2007 criticisms? She's brought it up again in 2016 so it's fair game to comment on. Several of those involved (including Kelly) in the the making of those songs have spoken up with their versions of the story over the years and the general consensus seems to be that Kelly either didn't want to record them at all initially or wasn't happy with the final product. This shows bad judgement from a business perspective on her part. At the end of the day, those songs prevented her from just being the "American Idol" winner and turned her into a huge pop star at a critical point in her career. I would just like to see her acknowledge the success and opportunities those songs brought her - especially since she has barely been able to even come close to those level of hits since without working with Dr. Luke again (like she did with "My Life Would Suck Without You"). The only person who can speak for Kelly's motivations is Kelly herself, and she has never said she never wanted to record any of the songs you listed. She's been very vocal about changing the composition and lyrics to various songs, but she's never dismissed or spat on them. So she didn't like working with Dr Luke, so what? He isn't the predominant force behind Kelly's success, Kelly is. As for that success, I'm pretty sure Stronger is her bestselling single, and Dr Luke had nothing to do with that. Plus, just look at what's happening right now in her career: Queen be slaying. i don't know her single sales off hand so i'll take your word for it about "stronger" but i would argue the general public associates "since u been gone" and "behind these hazel eyes" as career defining songs that really broke her out of american idol fame and into a bonafide pop star. and then after "my december" flopped, "my life would suck without you" was her comeback song. point being is i dont think kelly would have even been given the chance to make as many albums as she did without the massive success those early singles brought her. i also think it's funny how people are anti-dr luke these days when he was a big reason why several of the pop princesses this board favors scored massive hits on pop radio that majority of this board stanned hard for over the years. don't think it was purely katy perry and kelly clarkson's talent that achieved those feats - they all had super star writers and producers helping them.
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Post by mattybmb on Mar 7, 2016 15:37:01 GMT -5
The only person who can speak for Kelly's motivations is Kelly herself, and she has never said she never wanted to record any of the songs you listed. She's been very vocal about changing the composition and lyrics to various songs, but she's never dismissed or spat on them. So she didn't like working with Dr Luke, so what? He isn't the predominant force behind Kelly's success, Kelly is. As for that success, I'm pretty sure Stronger is her bestselling single, and Dr Luke had nothing to do with that. Plus, just look at what's happening right now in her career: Queen be slaying. i don't know her single sales off hand so i'll take your word for it about "stronger" but i would argue the general public associates "since u been gone" and "behind these hazel eyes" as career defining songs that really broke her out of american idol fame and into a bonafide pop star. and then after "my december" flopped, "my life would suck without you" was her comeback song. point being is i dont think kelly would have even been given the chance to make as many albums as she did without the massive success those early singles brought her. i also think it's funny how people are anti-dr luke these days when he was a big reason why several of the pop princesses this board favors scored massive hits on pop radio that majority of this board stanned hard for over the years. don't think it was purely katy perry and kelly clarkson's talent that achieved those feats - they all had super star writers and producers helping them. No one denies those songs are career defining, they are, but it's a two-way street that actually has more to do with Kelly and her talent. Dr Luke was relatively unknown before Since U Been Gone. And the song itself was different in the beginning until Kelly fought for what she wanted. Dr Luke is a talented producer, no doubt, just look at his repertoire, but the main point is Kelly hasn't bitten the hand that feeds her because a large part of that hand is her own. She's always been humble and appreciative, but that doesn't mean it's been a smooth ride. I'm not anti-Luke, I'm not pro-Luke, but I'm not naive either. Too many artists who have worked for him have had difficulties. I also think you're underselling Kelly's talent, especially if you're putting her in the same bracket as Katy Perry.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 16:23:56 GMT -5
Well, Kesha is biting the hand that fed her by suing Dr. Luke for sexual assault and trying to get out of her contract, isn't she? That's kind of the problem with some of the industry, the mentality that if someone played any part in your success that you should never ever say or do anything against them, even if the relationship is clearly an unhealthy one. And it shouldn't take an extreme situation like Kesha's to see what's wrong with this train of thought. Some bridges are okay to burn.
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