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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 15, 2024 10:16:31 GMT -5
The top ten is weak enough now, it would be pretty amazing if it could squeak in. But tbh, I'd even take a top 40 credit, her first new one in over a decade IIRC. Yeah her last new top 40 hit was the 2x platinum "#Beautiful" back in 2013. She'd had other songs make the Hot 100 since then, and of course "AIWFCIY" has returned to the top 40 a bunch, but nothing new has hit the top 40. Crazy. The original version of "yes and?" is out of the top 20 on the Hot 100, so in theory the remix won't need to do a ton to replace it. I think if it did what the "Big Energy" remix did week 1, it would be enough; the original "Big Energy" was much higher on the Hot 100 at that time. Also:
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 15, 2024 18:46:53 GMT -5
Grain of salt however they got the residency and this remix correct π―
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Post by colson on Feb 15, 2024 19:00:20 GMT -5
No offense but why are people here always quoting these fake Nostradamus tweets?
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 15, 2024 19:13:30 GMT -5
No offense but why are people here always quoting these fake Nostradamus tweets? He got a few things right so far. Apparently there is a MV for the remix too. If you can predict four things in a row that turn correct I pay attention. It's clear he has some kinds source.
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Post by colson on Feb 15, 2024 19:16:32 GMT -5
Then when is this supposed Cardi B collaboration coming?
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 15, 2024 19:19:35 GMT -5
Then when is this supposed Cardi B collaboration coming? Apparently on her lead single if it's true. But the Grammy , residency, Remix were predicted ahead of time.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 15, 2024 19:43:43 GMT -5
While I do think she wants a 20th #1, I would think she and her team know there is a much clearer path to try for it than hopping on the remix to a song that had people divided. I mean collaborating with Drake, Cardi B, or even Megan for a single on their album would be much more obvious and easier route. Hell, even getting a credit on Arianaβs follow up single would be a better way to do it. This remix would need to sound like an entirely new song, and it might, to convince people.
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Post by NeRD on Feb 15, 2024 19:50:03 GMT -5
Where is jazzysoul? Does he still post?
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Post by cking33 on Feb 15, 2024 19:56:25 GMT -5
Regarding the initial iciness around the Mariah/Ariana interactions... I've always felt one of the things that has bugged Mariah throughout the duration of her career has been people trying to say someone is "the next Mariah." It's a bit of a kick in gonads to her because from her perspective it's like, "Hello?! I'm still here!" I'm old enough to remember when Jennifer Paige, who was a one-hit wonder with the song "Crush" in like 1996, was getting press as the "new Mariah."
Then you had people like Leona Lewis come along later and the comparisons were there again. It's happened a lot over the years, and a lot of those singers came and went. I think once Mariah recognized that Ari had some staying power and wasn't a flash in the pan like some of these other girls in the past, she changed her tune. And who knows maybe there was a mutual friend or associate of theirs behind the scenes who told her how much Ari loved her. That's my theory, anyway.
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 15, 2024 20:15:41 GMT -5
Where is jazzysoul? Does he still post? . Sadly the legend and icon hasn't posted here in years now
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 15, 2024 20:19:10 GMT -5
I think it helped that Ariana switched up her style and sound as well, so that she's not mimicking Mariah. Mariah's always had respect for artists who forged their own paths, and I think that's the case here as well.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 15, 2024 21:27:32 GMT -5
While I do think she wants a 20th #1, I would think she and her team know there is a much clearer path to try for it than hopping on the remix to a song that had people divided. Well keep in mind this remix was probably in the works before the single kind of tanked. Once the plan was in place, it was probably hard to reverse. Now they might as well go all in. In a way it works out better because it will be much easier to get Mariah chart credit now than if the song was an actual hit on its own (like we saw with "Big Energy" where the original was too popular for the remix to take over). It may not get #1, but even just adding another top 40 hit or whatever to Mariah's chart history is nice.
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Post by BodegaKay on Feb 15, 2024 21:36:28 GMT -5
Ariana wearing the Butterfly album shirt makes me wonder if she is using a sample from the album. Maybe breakdown? Babydoll π
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Post by die Lotterie on Feb 15, 2024 22:03:38 GMT -5
The other thing that works to Mariahβs benefit is that Ariana actually has a massive fan base unlike her past collaborators on βUnforgettableβ and βBig Energyβ remixes lol. It will be interesting to see numbers for the physicals. My 2 shipped today. π€
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 15, 2024 22:13:12 GMT -5
Grain of salt however they got the residency and this remix correct π― Iβm starting to believe that account. I havenβt seen Mariah this active for a collaboration. Sheβs really promoting it. Just a couple hours till is out. Iβm getting excited!
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 15, 2024 22:41:52 GMT -5
Thereβs a rumor floating around that the song will feature a sample of a song from the Butterfly album.
I feel like the song has to sound very different from the original track because what would be the point? It already went to #1.
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 15, 2024 22:52:52 GMT -5
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Post by bat1990 on Feb 16, 2024 0:03:34 GMT -5
Where is it? Is it landing at 12am Pacific?
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Post by Caviar on Feb 16, 2024 0:04:52 GMT -5
That intro!!!
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Post by mrricx on Feb 16, 2024 0:05:23 GMT -5
It's out already. Her voice sounds great!
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Post by BodegaKay on Feb 16, 2024 0:05:36 GMT -5
Ugh I definitely expected a whole new vibe.
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Post by lanceybaby on Feb 16, 2024 0:07:09 GMT -5
Omg π₯°π₯°π₯°π₯°ππ½ππ½ππ½ππ½ππ½π₯°π₯°π₯° live it soooo much!!!
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Post by bat1990 on Feb 16, 2024 0:16:06 GMT -5
Now it sounds like Ari is featured on a Mariah song But in all seriousness, I was not expecting full-voiced Mariah vocals and belts or her singing the higher parts! After Ari's whisper singing on the original, I was expecting more of the same. AND it sounds soooooooooooooooo good to hear Mariah on club music again. It's been 10 years since we got any dance music or remixes from her.
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Post by casperr0430 on Feb 16, 2024 0:16:13 GMT -5
Maria's voice. Her middle and upper register sound great. Now I can't wait for her new album!!! I haven't listened to the original song so I'm not sure how different this song is to the original.
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 16, 2024 0:17:56 GMT -5
Mariah sounds fantastic! Even though it doesn't sound that different from the original, this still exceeded my expectations.
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Post by Ivy Leegueβ’ on Feb 16, 2024 0:18:31 GMT -5
Nope. Unintentional comedy. Mariah's verse doesn't even make sense and doesn't properly flow or rhyme. Her ad-libs are also...off. They really should have done something new.
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Post by adamalterlago on Feb 16, 2024 0:18:54 GMT -5
Hmmmβ¦I need a few more listens. I wish they would have just traded parts in the pre chorus. MC is over singing and it sounds rough against Ariana which is weird because sheβs a master of control. I would have kept things quiet and popped off at the end, which sounds excellent and gives me 90s MC club mix nostalgia - i mean this single is a direct reference to that sound. i also would have extended it, put in a BG singers maybe a choir, and turned the track up to a real club mix.
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Post by lanceybaby on Feb 16, 2024 0:22:20 GMT -5
Hmmmβ¦I need a few more listens. I wish they would have just traded parts in the pre chorus. MC is over singing and it sounds rough against Ariana which is weird because sheβs a master of control. I would have kept things quiet and popped off at the end, which sounds excellent and gives me 90s MC club mix nostalgia - i mean this single is a direct reference to that sound. i also would have extended it, put in a BG singers maybe a choir, and turned the track up to a real club mix. Blahhh the same old formula ππ½ππ½ππ½ππ½ dislike your opinion
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Post by casperr0430 on Feb 16, 2024 0:23:35 GMT -5
I am very critical of Mariah's voice and there's nothing rough at all with her voice on this song.
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 16, 2024 0:28:28 GMT -5
Yeah, tbh I wasn't sure if she could sound this good on record again. It really bodes well for new material.
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