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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 14, 2024 15:03:30 GMT -5
For the same reason she never got a Hot 100 credit for the "Unforgettable" remix or the "Big Energy" remix - the remix version has to get more points than the original for that to be the credited version. The difference here is that the original version isn't currently doing all that well where the others were top 10 hits when the remixes came out, so it does leave more room for the remix to get the chart credit for at least one week if it sells and streams well. I just learned this exists. So much better than the original |
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Post by Leigh on Feb 14, 2024 15:39:29 GMT -5
As long as Mariah sounds good and it doesn't feel cut and paste, I'm good. It's a cute song and we haven't heard Mariah on a dance track in ages. Has there been a clip yet? Maybe it’ll be a full RnB rework |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 14, 2024 15:42:55 GMT -5
Look at it go!
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 14, 2024 15:45:21 GMT -5
" mom stop being so dramatic I'm hungry"
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 14, 2024 15:49:59 GMT -5
"it’s “yes, and? WITH mariah carey” not FEATURING
that means mariah has writing and/or producing credits"
If that's true then even more excited it's not cut and paste. Mariah gon sprinkle her shit all over it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 14, 2024 16:43:20 GMT -5
Mariah's response to Ariana's IG post:
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 14, 2024 16:54:16 GMT -5
As long as Mariah sounds good and it doesn't feel cut and paste, I'm good. It's a cute song and we haven't heard Mariah on a dance track in ages. Has there been a clip yet? Maybe it’ll be a full RnB rework Nada  |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 14, 2024 16:57:12 GMT -5
I would love for it to be a more R&B version of the song.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 14, 2024 16:59:24 GMT -5
I hope it’s country
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Post by Resident_Evil on Feb 14, 2024 17:45:26 GMT -5
This has to be the worst case of missed opportunity in the history of music. What is the use of resurrecting a daed song that already served its purpose and topped the charts? Mariah should've put her foot down and insisted that they collaborate on a new single.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 14, 2024 18:00:33 GMT -5
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Feb 14, 2024 18:14:11 GMT -5
I wasn't aware of the "featuring" vs. "with" distinction. I always thought they were used interchangeably. That's a little reassuring.
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 14, 2024 18:19:46 GMT -5
I am also not that excited abt this tbh. Would rather hear something new, and unless the song is completely reworked, better.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 14, 2024 18:47:26 GMT -5
I guess I’m in the minority, but I’m pumped for the remix.
I love the song and I’m always looking forward to something new from Mimi.
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 14, 2024 19:06:26 GMT -5
I mean, I'm glad she returned to the flock, but I haven't forgotten and Mariah probably hasn't either, deep down. And on top of that she started cozying up to Nicki right after American Idol. I'm glad Covid brought some sense back into her and prolly a heart-to-heart conversation with Gaga about which Legends to respect. Out of the celebrity lambs Tamar will always be the most loyal. Look at Beyoncé and what she did as well. What did Beyonce do? Anyway, even though I wish Mariah were on an original song, I will take this! |
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 14, 2024 19:27:06 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 14, 2024 19:29:53 GMT -5
I wasn't aware of the "featuring" vs. "with" distinction. I always thought they were used interchangeably. That's a little reassuring. I haven't heard of it either and am skeptical. I think the credit thing is just more so label negotiations, but I'd love to see some examples. When Ariana was added to "Die For You" the Hot 100 credit was "&" so that's not either "featuring" or "with" lol. For "Karma" Ice Spice got a "featuring" credit but obviously adding a verse is new lyrics and thus a writing credit. Anyway we will see. |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 14, 2024 20:49:41 GMT -5
And on top of that she started cozying up to Nicki right after American Idol. I'm glad Covid brought some sense back into her and prolly a heart-to-heart conversation with Gaga about which Legends to respect. Out of the celebrity lambs Tamar will always be the most loyal. Look at Beyoncé and what she did as well. What did Beyonce do? Left Mariah out of the Break My Soul (Queens Remix)…where she names drop all these “queens” who’ve “inspired” her. Yet Beyoncé has cited Mariah multiple times as one of the reasons she decided to become a singer. But she’s forgetful it seems. Oh but we will never forget. She’s done for me 🙅🏻♂️ |
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Post by eyeofthestorm on Feb 14, 2024 21:08:05 GMT -5
That single cover still slays my life to this day. I bought the UK cd single years ago just so I could have it. It fit the ambience of the song perfecty. |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 14, 2024 21:19:27 GMT -5
That single cover still slays my life to this day. I bought the UK cd single years ago just so I could have it. It fit the ambience of the song perfecty. The era was so beautifully executed |
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 14, 2024 21:19:56 GMT -5
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 14, 2024 22:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by toxicbaby on Feb 14, 2024 23:07:10 GMT -5
Although i truly love yes, and? and still listening to it daily, i wish Mariah would hop on to a different song that suits her voice more. Anyways, still waiting on fire for this freaking remix 🔥 🔥
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Post by Leigh on Feb 14, 2024 23:12:53 GMT -5
If they did totally rework this song for the remix, am I right in thinking Billboard would treat it as its own song and it would chart separately?? (i.e the I’m Real effect….)
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Feb 15, 2024 7:17:33 GMT -5
Ive never thought of Poo Bear 🐻 until I seen him like Mariah's Valentine pic and it hit me why ain't these two ever worked together in her projects. Most know him from his work wirh Justin NOT Trudeau but he has credits from 99 with 112, 2000s Pink, Mya, usher , Method Man, Jill Scott etc...
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 15, 2024 7:55:31 GMT -5
Ive never thought of Poo Bear 🐻 until I seen him like Mariah's Valentine pic and it hit me why ain't these two ever worked together in her projects. Most know him from his work wirh Justin NOT Trudeau but he has credits from 99 with 112, 2000s Pink, Mya, usher , Method Man, Jill Scott etc... They worked together on "The Distance," but yeah I'd welcome them working together again. That tweet isn't fully accurate as she's been on Busta Rhymes songs twice now, and neither led to an album. She also had "Things That U Do" come out not long after Rainbow, so that's sort of a wash. "So Lonely" then came out well after TEOM but in time for the re-release. Just trying to keep expectations in check, I guess, though obviously I'd love a new album. |
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Post by Caution on Feb 15, 2024 8:01:35 GMT -5
Will Mariah and Max Martin work together or the remix was produced by someone else? (Maybe JD lol)
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 15, 2024 8:08:43 GMT -5
Will Mariah and Max Martin work together or the remix was produced by someone else? (Maybe JD lol) We obviously don't know yet, but if all Mariah did was record a verse and some other vocal parts she likely didn't work with anyone except her engineer. If they did rework the song for the remix, then she potentially worked with Max or someone. I doubt it though. |
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Feb 15, 2024 8:31:21 GMT -5
y'all really complaining about new music with a superstar, huh! I'm kidding a li'l, I get the complaints, but let's try to be a little bit happy. :) My gripe is just that it likely won't count for the Hot 100. I dunno, radio is mid enough for the single that maybe sales and streaming could counterbalance? It's an uphill battle. I think that the label would immediately change over the song on radio to the remix. It seems too much of a love fest between Ari and Mariah to not make an all out push. Plus the song is stalled at radio so there’s no reason to not switch versions. Big Energy was growing organically on its own so the label had no incentive to switch to remix version. We shall see tomorrow but I’m guessing it’s all Mimi going forward. |
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Post by imbuemyblue on Feb 15, 2024 9:47:03 GMT -5
The top ten is weak enough now, it would be pretty amazing if it could squeak in. But tbh, I'd even take a top 40 credit, her first new one in over a decade IIRC.
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