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Post by The Upper Hand on May 6, 2014 9:42:19 GMT -5
The performance of "Got To Be Real" with her godmother was in 1998, just when she started to struggle with high notes.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on May 6, 2014 9:42:33 GMT -5
I think the thing for me with her performances is I would rather have an honest this is how I am sounding today performance from Mariah than some lipped/overly dubbed performance. I loved her performance with Patti LaBelle. I will admit I am nervous for her Today show performance as morning shows tend to not work well for Mariah. Granted her more recent performances give me hope as she has sounded really good especially performing Art Of Letting Go.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 9:45:00 GMT -5
I'm sure it's more of an interpolation than a sample. Mariah didn't really do blatant samples on her past couple albums.
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Post by kmbgs on May 6, 2014 10:01:31 GMT -5
Ya know, I hear interpolation and Mariah in the same sentence and I'm into it
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on May 6, 2014 10:03:59 GMT -5
So today is May 6...you guys think we might get something? A single, a press conferencecorporation?
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Post by The Upper Hand on May 6, 2014 10:10:51 GMT -5
Being "Thirsty" for album info, I went on to the Wikipedia page for the album, and looked at the tracklist. Yes, I know, Wikipedia, not reliable...but some of the writing credits are quite promising. They are probably samples but perhaps she worked with these people - there are lots of names that when you click them they are associated with Philly soul. On "Meteorite", which is the QTip song, Norman Harris and Ron Tyson I think this is the only song written by Norman Harris and Rob Tyson ( according to www.musicvf.com/song.php?title=Think+for+Yourself+by+The+Temptations ) |
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Post by The Upper Hand on May 6, 2014 10:14:43 GMT -5
I'm sure it's more of an interpolation than a sample. Mariah didn't really do blatant samples on her past couple albums. What is the difference? Is interpolation something like "If You Think You're Lonely Now" in "We Belong Together"? |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 6, 2014 10:16:54 GMT -5
Mariah's album title completely erased any potential fallout from the release being delayed yet again:
Slay!
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Post by jenglisbe on May 6, 2014 10:18:16 GMT -5
I'm sure it's more of an interpolation than a sample. Mariah didn't really do blatant samples on her past couple albums. What is the difference? Is interpolation something like "If You Think You're Lonely Now" in "We Belong Together"? That could be one, but it's also something like "I'll Be Loving U Long Time" where a piece of the music from "Stay With Me" is played/used in the song, but it's not part of the original recording. An interpolation would be taking a melody/loop but playing it on a new instrument or something. A sample is when you use an actual piece of the original track. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 10:22:19 GMT -5
Yeah, part of "I'm Caught Up..." was replayed. No elements of the original recording were used. Another example is when part of another song is resung, like "We Belong Together," "Inseparable," "I'm That Chick, etc.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on May 6, 2014 10:28:03 GMT -5
Isn't there some video posting from the Art Of Letting Go time frame where Mariah is basically singing part of a song where she is singing, but then she says you don't know about that yet and asks the people watching do you know that song. Where she is singing I can give it to you but what you gonna do/ Tryin to give it all to you? Sorry Mariah sings it very low and hard to make out the lyrics. I wonder if that is part of the song.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 6, 2014 10:29:55 GMT -5
Yeah, part of "I'm Caught Up..." was replayed. No elements of the original recording were used. How do you know that for sure? Isn't there some video posting from the Art Of Letting Go time frame where Mariah is basically singing part of a song where she is saying, but you don't know about that yet. Where she is singing I can give it to you but what you gonna do/ Tryin to give it all to you? Sorry Mariah sings it very low and hard to make out the lyrics. I wonder if that is part of the song. That's from a somewhat random song; Jayo Felony, I believe. Was he credited as a writer on any song on the album? |
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Post by apoleb on May 6, 2014 10:30:43 GMT -5
Probably my favorite Mariah live performance ever. I wish it was longer. Everything was totally spontaneous and she didn't seem to give a s**t how she looked, just went out and put some soul out there. That's a rarity. And I love the curly hair.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on May 6, 2014 10:37:12 GMT -5
Yeah, part of "I'm Caught Up..." was replayed. No elements of the original recording were used. How do you know that for sure? Isn't there some video posting from the Art Of Letting Go time frame where Mariah is basically singing part of a song where she is saying, but you don't know about that yet. Where she is singing I can give it to you but what you gonna do/ Tryin to give it all to you? Sorry Mariah sings it very low and hard to make out the lyrics. I wonder if that is part of the song. That's from a somewhat random song; Jayo Felony, I believe. Was he credited as a writer on any song on the album? But didn't that song sample something? |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 6, 2014 10:39:41 GMT -5
How do you know that for sure? That's from a somewhat random song; Jayo Felony, I believe. Was he credited as a writer on any song on the album? But didn't that song sample something? Zapp & Roger's classic "More Bounce to the Ounce" I believe. I don't remember seeing those writers credited on Mariah's new album, though. It's possible she changed her mind, or maybe they didn't get the sample cleared. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 6, 2014 10:57:12 GMT -5
While it's not Mariah's best song or even performance, I don't know how someone can watch something like this and say Mariah isn't (or wasn't at any rate) a strong live performer:
She has a strong presence, no weird posturing like she does now, a connection with the audience, and a great vocal.
And let's not forget this beautifully emotional gem:
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Post by sundaymorningguy on May 6, 2014 10:59:22 GMT -5
Oh man! I was coming back from lunch when I hear this guy blasting "Breakdown" in his car. I think people are preparing themselves for impending Slayriah  ! |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on May 6, 2014 11:33:00 GMT -5
I hope they are being quiet to try and figure out the best single strategy and marketing strategy.
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Post by gazermazer on May 6, 2014 11:43:47 GMT -5
FUSE TV has all Mariah Videos playing and it looks like they are going in descending order from her most Recent....
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Post by Relaxing Cup on May 6, 2014 12:19:10 GMT -5
any news from JD's twitter?
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Post by Leigh on May 6, 2014 12:23:57 GMT -5
FUSE TV has all Mariah Videos playing and it looks like they are going in descending order from her most Recent.... Well that's going to make my next few hours of work go by easier... Ah man, I haven't seen the When You Believe video for a longgg time; such a magical moment seeing them together. Such a shame they didn't record together one more time. |
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on May 6, 2014 12:55:13 GMT -5
I've been listening to the Butterfly album a lot lately, that raw artistic energy and them vocals, I'm being slayed for the ages, while waiting for MIAMTEC, I'm being slayed for the ages! I love this woman! Hopefully she got back in that artistic place for this album. So excited to see what she has for us, I hope a single drops soon, I've been asking her to release one on Twitter.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on May 6, 2014 13:03:39 GMT -5
I hope her R&B takes on a more organic nature along the lines of Butterfly.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 13:12:44 GMT -5
So today is May 6...you guys think we might get something? You're funny. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 6, 2014 13:17:36 GMT -5
I hope her R&B takes on a more organic nature along the lines of Butterfly. I love Butterfly, but I am interested to know what you mean by "organic." I think TEOM is more organic in that a lot of the songs utilize live instruments. But you might be thinking of another aspect. Butterfly remains probably her best-written album, and the production is fairly complex on most songs. While I shouldn't judge songs on titles alone, this album has me excited based on all of those one-word titles. Songs like "Thirsty" and "Meteorite" and "Camoufauge" just sound cool. |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on May 6, 2014 13:25:44 GMT -5
What I mean by organic is everything just worked and had a smooth flow: the lyrics, vocals, the production everything came off on point and so natural. I feel like after that she has had shining moments in R&B, but nothing consistent.
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Post by carrieidol1 on May 6, 2014 13:36:15 GMT -5
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Post by no apologist on May 6, 2014 14:36:16 GMT -5
For me, that's when it all went downhill. I think that was the start of this I wanna be sexy phase she's stuck in now. Really?? Then what in god's name was 'Honey' suppose to be?? Mariah has always been sexy (no doubt about it) but then she went a bit overt. Honey wasn't desperate to me. It was Mariah's liberation from Tommy's parental control and her owning being a 26 Y.O woman. Rainbow just came off silly and immature for a 28 Y.O woman. I mean, the lollipop and hair clip, seriously? The whole theme was childish tbh. And she's adopted that mentally ever since. |
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on May 6, 2014 15:05:32 GMT -5
She will be on Letterman tomorrow.
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