#LisaRinna
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 10, 2020 19:37:14 GMT -5
Random but I need a Charmbracelet tour DVD asap! That was a TOUR! She sounded better than The Administration of Mimi tour and was so playful too.
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lancey
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Post by lancey on Apr 11, 2020 1:45:35 GMT -5
Wowww that was amazing!!!! Just miss the LORDS KNOWS part
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 11, 2020 8:53:50 GMT -5
US iTunes: #381 - Greatest Hits #779 - The Emancipation of Mimi #788 - "Hero" #984 - "Fantasy" #1447 - "Always Be My Baby"
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Post by collegedropout on Apr 11, 2020 8:59:50 GMT -5
I wanted to like it based on the comments but that was not good at all. She was struggling. She looked great and I loved the confidence though. And that "you can find love" falsetto was beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 9:33:57 GMT -5
I wanted to like it based on the comments but that was not good at all. She was struggling. She looked great and I loved the confidence though. And that "you can find love" falsetto was beautiful. I agree. That was one of her weaker recent vocals.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Apr 11, 2020 10:03:15 GMT -5
I thought it was a bit strange overall. In places it was incredible but it is overcome with those staccato breaks where her younger voice used to be so agile and just flew through notes. I know her voice isn’t the same, so why does she insist on trying to sing every inflection the same?
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Post by mrricx on Apr 11, 2020 10:05:20 GMT -5
She definitely wasn't struggling. She just made different choices. And she reached notes she doesn't usually do when on concerts. Saying that was "not good at all" is at least unfair and inaccurate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 10:05:59 GMT -5
Her voice wasnt perfect but I loved it because of her tone. It sounded rich. I also felt the emotion in this rendition. She struggled a bit with the notes but that last "survive note" was gorgeous. I've come to expect her high notes to sound rough so I mainly check for her tone and falsetto voice these days.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 10:20:47 GMT -5
I thought it was a bit strange overall. In places it was incredible but it is overcome with those staccato breaks where her younger voice used to be so agile and just flew through notes. I know her voice isn’t the same, so why does she insist on trying to sing every inflection the same? It drives me nuts when she does some of her 90's songs with a million staccato breaks. I'd rather she just sing them in a different key or something.
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Post by Positive Tension on Apr 11, 2020 10:34:37 GMT -5
I thought it was a bit strange overall. In places it was incredible but it is overcome with those staccato breaks where her younger voice used to be so agile and just flew through notes. I know her voice isn’t the same, so why does she insist on trying to sing every inflection the same? I know very little about singing and technique, but is the staccato a choice on her part vs. not being able to flow through the notes? Before the breaks her voice sounds smooth enough to me to be able to sing without staccato, so sometimes I'm puzzled when she uses the technique. The above is more an observation of other performances over the past decade or so, not necessarily this one as I thought this was her best rendition of "Hero" in years. She hit notes here I'm not used to her reaching in live performances, and I thought this sounded smoother than a lot of her live performances of "Hero" too. The breaks don't bother me when her inflection and tone are close to the original, which I thought was the case here but sometimes isn't during live performances of the song.
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Post by weaver on Apr 11, 2020 10:36:03 GMT -5
Those who didn't think she sounded good...did we listen to the same video? I mean of course she doesn't sound like 1994 but I thought it was definitely really good in terms of her post 2010 vocals. She was pretty confident, which helps.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 11:34:55 GMT -5
Oh Tanqka is an Aries that's why they a good match they probably argue but retreat to separate quarters and next day forget all about it! http://instagram.com/p/B-2DBTMgWlt
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Post by theedge12 on Apr 11, 2020 11:52:55 GMT -5
Give her a break people. She’s 50 not 23! Still flows better then 90% of the artist out there. To me she still sounds amazing!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 12:08:36 GMT -5
I agree her voice is still amazing, but for some reason I just don’t like how she sounds singing Hero anymore (or for the past 15 or so years). For me that song asks for a very clean, breezy type vocal and when she does certain breaks (like “with the strength ta carry o-o-on” or “finally see the tru-uth”) it just kinda sounds off to me.
Her tone is still beautiful and she still has a ton of fluidity (more than most singers), i wish she’d work in new runs that work with her voice as opposed to attempting old ones she can’t do anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 12:14:50 GMT -5
People are acting like we weren't praising her Emancipation tributes and her "Always Be My Baby" performance 5 mins ago...
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Post by Dreams on Apr 11, 2020 12:16:59 GMT -5
^^^ Right. Mariah is 50/51 -regardless of the fact she looks 34- her voice just cannot sound the same it sounded back when she was a 20 something. I think folks, myself included sometimes, forget that. Maybe even perimenopause among other things affects her singing these days, who knows? (she would kill me if she were to see this post. 😬)
There was nothing "off" or "wrong" about this Hero performance, for what it's worth.
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Post by lancey on Apr 11, 2020 13:14:13 GMT -5
I thought it was a bit strange overall. In places it was incredible but it is overcome with those staccato breaks where her younger voice used to be so agile and just flew through notes. I know her voice isn’t the same, so why does she insist on trying to sing every inflection the same? It drives me nuts when she does some of her 90's songs with a million staccato breaks. I'd rather she just sing them in a different key or something. Agree!
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Apr 11, 2020 13:34:36 GMT -5
I think a lot of the staccato isn’t necessarily planned. She doesn’t have the elasticity of her younger voice. So, when she reaches certain melodic points that knock on the door of her vocal tensile strength, she pivots to staccato as a quick workaround. I will say that she should look to find a more appealing way to workaround the growing inelasticity of her voice. Either that or work with a vocal pedagogy expert.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Apr 11, 2020 13:57:02 GMT -5
One of my favorite Hero renditions. She looked moved at the end.
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Post by Positive Tension on Apr 11, 2020 14:07:30 GMT -5
It probably just goes to show how hard Mariah's songs are to sing, even relatively straightforward ones like "Hero." The way those transitions sound where she changes up her style, it just sounds to me like it would be so easy for her to sing them like she did before because they aren't the "showy" parts of the song. Mariah herself makes it all look so easy even though I'm sure it's anything but. I'm sure even if you had the best vocalists post-Mariah try to sing "Hero," they would have a hard time with all the inflections.
As others have said, Mariah's voice when she's in tip top shape today is probably the same as it was in 2005, perhaps even better. I'd say one of the biggest changes in her voice/technique, other than Butterfly, was with the Daydream album where she used a lighter tone than her prior albums. She still sounded phenomenal, but it was a change from how she sang an album like Emotions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 14:29:37 GMT -5
Her falsetto and lower register today artist>>> That's when she sounds her best and she easily has melisma in her falsetto. And her low register is amazing she can go as low as Barry White. It's her runs and belts that you can feel the vocal decline due to her nodules. But then she will surprise you cause this was 2012 and she dis the best run of her entire career around the 25 second to 34 second mark imo youtu.be/ZlObJAlSi78 she scooted her ass up and down that stair live! When she is using both those registers she sounds amazing, it's why I loved her Caution performances. She basically avoided all the other parts of her voice and focused on her strength today.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 11, 2020 14:47:42 GMT -5
I prefer Mariah’s breaking up the notes that way to Whitney just talking through 2/3 of songs.
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Post by collegedropout on Apr 11, 2020 14:53:39 GMT -5
Both are equally annoying to be honest.
Mariah has a lot of pictures in her kitchen lol.
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Post by Albie on Apr 11, 2020 15:10:02 GMT -5
Hi girls! No better way to celebrate the Queen during Aries season than admiring her most recent work of art. Come join us in ranking the Caution album here.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 11, 2020 15:35:50 GMT -5
I mean, it’s important but it’s no secret Mariah’s voice is different and has endured rather poorly through the years - also known due to circumstances beyond her control. However, in recent years through truly living healthy and happily her voice has clearly benefitted. She’s glowing, she’s confident, she’s comfortable, she’s free, she’s attaining career highs in her 4th decade of doing this, she’s just... happy. The ending of “Hero” was a straight up flashback to her magical tone in the 90’s. She’s got it, it’s still there, she’s just not 25 anymore and she hasn’t stopped since she was a kid. Her voice isn’t quite as smooth in her upper register and she has to cut off notes to get to another (hence the staccato we hear a lot from her). Her voice is weathered, and for a while it wasn’t being properly cared for, but she’s showing more than ever that through care, dedication, and happiness she’s as capable as ever of delivering stunning vocals.
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The album that never ends... I mean 'THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT: THE ANTHOLOGY' out now!
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Post by schnetzka on Apr 11, 2020 20:34:17 GMT -5
I just hope that her voice doesn't continue to decline in the years to come. She can work with the way her voice is now but there will come a point where it won't work anymore if the decline continues.
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Post by Dreams on Apr 12, 2020 6:59:30 GMT -5
I just hope that her voice doesn't continue to decline in the years to come. She can work with the way her voice is now but there will come a point where it won't work anymore if the decline continues. I've thought about this. She's made it this far without having the surgery done on her nodules (and she's lasted long to her credit and to my surprise). I wonder if there will COME a point a surgery will be imperative? Who knows if she will have any chest voice, let alone belting, in her 60s-70s with nodules still intact?
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Post by Nick on Apr 12, 2020 7:13:23 GMT -5
Her voice is still fine enough to deliver brand new studio recordings, but she will never be able to duplicate her vocals from the early hits and she really doesn't have to.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 12, 2020 8:08:45 GMT -5
I just hope that her voice doesn't continue to decline in the years to come. She can work with the way her voice is now but there will come a point where it won't work anymore if the decline continues. I've thought about this. She's made it this far without having the surgery done on her nodules (and she's lasted long to her credit and to my surprise). I wonder if there will COME a point a surgery will be imperative? Who knows if she will have any chest voice, let alone belting, in her 60s-70s with nodules still intact? There have been rumors for years that she already had a surgery on them. Regardless, the past few years she has been sounding the best she has in awhile, so I don’t know what deterioration some of you mean. If each year it was getting worse, it would make more sense.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 8:17:06 GMT -5
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