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Post by theedge12 on Mar 6, 2014 11:26:30 GMT -5
Mariah is getting perhaps some of her own medicine.... Let's see. Madonna was born in 1958, Mariah in 1969. Roughly 11-year difference. In 1995 when Mariah was around 26 years old, she said this: Mariah was born in 1969, Katy in 1984. Roughly 15-year difference. Now in 2014 Katy is around 29 years old. I have not seen the interview this thread is talking about so I cannot see Katy's face or body language to tell more about Katy's intentions. All I can say is that Mariah's video shows NO DOUBT about her wanting to be nasty with those comments. So now Mariah that has been struggling for a while to have successful singles and albums, I'm sure it bothers her to hear such comments from younger stars. It seems to me a simple case of getting some of your own medicine, a case of karma or however you want to call it... So why is it that lambs are now with their panties all in a bunch??? Oh lord... That was in response to Madonna comments in the press about her.
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Post by no apologist on Mar 6, 2014 12:02:53 GMT -5
This Mia Wallace wig wearin' bitch could never come for the Queen. When her minions and these basic ass corporations stop manipulating the charts to get her quick hits and take it back to the old fashion way, then she could speak on the Queen. I mean, viewership on youtube increases your chances of getting a number one hit?!! If it wasn't for the manipulation, both she and her alien (Rihanna) girlfriend wouldn't be nowhere near the Queen. In 21 years she managed to catch up to the Queen, who lying? Show the real receipts. And I actually like her, but girl do not try it.
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Post by Jay D83 on Mar 6, 2014 12:23:59 GMT -5
This Mia Wallace wig wearin' bitch could never come for the Queen. When her minions and these basic ass corporations stop manipulating the charts to get her quick hits and take it back to the old fashion way, then she could speak on the Queen. I mean, viewership on youtube increases your chances of getting a number one hit?!! If it wasn't for the manipulation, both she and her alien (Rihanna) girlfriend wouldn't be nowhere near the Queen. In 21 years she managed to catch up to the Queen, who lying? Show the real receipts. And I actually like her, but girl do not try it. I like you honey. You got spunk, and sass!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 6, 2014 12:27:19 GMT -5
B!tch ain't foolin no one. She threw shade, SHADE I say! Get HA!! This Mia Wallace wig wearin' bitch could never come for the Queen. When her minions and these basic ass corporations stop manipulating the charts to get her quick hits and take it back to the old fashion way, then she could speak on the Queen. I mean, viewership on youtube increases your chances of getting a number one hit?!! If it wasn't for the manipulation, both she and her alien (Rihanna) girlfriend wouldn't be nowhere near the Queen. In 21 years she managed to catch up to the Queen, who lying? Show the real receipts. And I actually like her, but girl do not try it. Yasss LordT hunty you reading her her rights! Mariah is getting perhaps some of her own medicine.... To the left with that nonsense.
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Post by takingmytimetoday on Mar 6, 2014 13:13:54 GMT -5
Mariah is getting perhaps some of her own medicine.... Let's see. Madonna was born in 1958, Mariah in 1969. Roughly 11-year difference. In 1995 when Mariah was around 26 years old, she said this: Mariah was born in 1969, Katy in 1984. Roughly 15-year difference. Now in 2014 Katy is around 29 years old. I have not seen the interview this thread is talking about so I cannot see Katy's face or body language to tell more about Katy's intentions. All I can say is that Mariah's video shows NO DOUBT about her wanting to be nasty with those comments. So now Mariah that has been struggling for a while to have successful singles and albums, I'm sure it bothers her to hear such comments from younger stars. It seems to me a simple case of getting some of your own medicine, a case of karma or however you want to call it... So why is it that lambs are now with their panties all in a bunch??? Ummm...Mariah was born in 1970! You are no fan! Tsk tsk!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 13:18:15 GMT -5
Mariah Carey Mariah Careygood morning #lambily.. just wrapping yet another looong night pon de studio.. gettin' it done!!
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Post by Carlitoz on Mar 6, 2014 13:45:39 GMT -5
What made you think I was, ha , ha. I just went to wiki and it said 1969 and 1970. I just chose 1970 to avoid lambs saying that I'm calling their queen old.... I was being considerate. ;) To be honest I was a HUGE fan of hers since her first album. I don't know how old you are or if you lived that era, but I couldn't stop listening to Mariah. LOVED her second album and her unplugged. Those to studio albums I still love and bring so many amazing memories. I did buy her next two albums and enjoyed some tracks out of them. Butterfly i didn't buy, but again I did enjoy some tracks. After that it all started going down for my personal preferences/taste. For the last 15 years I've rarely liked anything from her. Who knows perhaps 6 songs max. I don't know. So yes, I guess you can say that I am not a fan...now. :) Oh! I totally loved The Art Of Letting Go though. :)
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Mar 6, 2014 14:26:50 GMT -5
What made you think I was, ha , ha. I just went to wiki and it said 1969 and 1970. I just chose 1970 to avoid lambs saying that I'm calling their queen old.... I was being considerate. ;) To be honest I was a HUGE fan of hers since her first album. I don't know how old you are or if you lived that era, but I couldn't stop listening to Mariah. LOVED her second album and her unplugged. Those to studio albums I still love and bring so many amazing memories. I did buy her next two albums and enjoyed some tracks out of them. Butterfly i didn't buy, but again I did enjoy some tracks. After that it all started going down for my personal preferences/taste. For the last 15 years I've rarely liked anything from her. Who knows perhaps 6 songs max. I don't know. So yes, I guess you can say that I am not a fan...now. :) Oh! I totally loved The Art Of Letting Go though. :) But you chose 1969 though. Anyhow, regardless, in that vid you posted she shaded Madge because Madge was talking shit about her for NO reason....as per usual. Mariah is not one to just hate for the hell of it. She throws shade to the people that come for her first. Rightfully so.
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Post by johnblaze on Mar 6, 2014 14:32:51 GMT -5
Personally, I'm happy that Katy Perry threw some shade at Mariah. At least she was honest that Mariah Carey is a throwback 90s act. Mariah is not current anymore and I'm sick of her stripping in her videos trying to stay current. I don't know what makes Mariah think that she can stay relevant by getting naked in her videos. All she does is show her age.
Mariah Carey looks like an over-the-hill hooker who has been phucked too many times and sucked to many diznicks.
This is coming from a former lamb who is just sick of what Mariah Carey has done to her career. Her career went downhill when she divorced Mattolla. He was the driving force behind her career and kept her in check. Now she is just out of control. Her music sucks. Did any of you hear the tragic "You're Mine"? It was horrible. Remember "Triumphant Get 'Em". What a disaster. Mariah has lost me. I can't stand her.
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Post by no apologist on Mar 6, 2014 14:35:05 GMT -5
Personally, I'm happy that Katy Perry threw some shade at Mariah. At least she was honest that Mariah Carey is a throwback 90s act. Mariah is not current anymore and I'm sick of her stripping in her videos trying to stay current. I don't know what makes Mariah think that she can stay relevant by getting naked in her videos. All she does is show her age. Mariah Carey looks like an over-the-hill hooker who has been phucked too many times and sucked to many diznicks.
This is coming from a former lamb who is just sick of what Mariah Carey has done to her career. Her career went downhill when she divorced Mattolla. He was the driving force behind her career and kept her in check. Now she is just out of control. Her music sucks. Did any of you hear the tragic "You're Mine"? It was horrible. Remember "Triumphant Get 'Em". What a disaster. Mariah has lost me. I can't stand her. LOL at this Ashanti fan making up a new name to try to avenge his hairy queen. I can't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 14:42:49 GMT -5
What made you think I was, ha , ha. I just went to wiki and it said 1969 and 1970. I just chose 1970 to avoid lambs saying that I'm calling their queen old.... I was being considerate. ;) To be honest I was a HUGE fan of hers since her first album. I don't know how old you are or if you lived that era, but I couldn't stop listening to Mariah. LOVED her second album and her unplugged. Those to studio albums I still love and bring so many amazing memories. I did buy her next two albums and enjoyed some tracks out of them. Butterfly i didn't buy, but again I did enjoy some tracks. After that it all started going down for my personal preferences/taste. For the last 15 years I've rarely liked anything from her. Who knows perhaps 6 songs max. I don't know. So yes, I guess you can say that I am not a fan...now. :) Oh! I totally loved The Art Of Letting Go though. :) But you chose 1969 though. Anyhow, regardless, in that vid you posted she shaded Madge because Madge was talking s**t about her for NO reason....as per usual. Mariah is not one to just hate for the hell of it. She throws shade to the people that come for her first. Rightfully so. Right. There are probably 4 acts she's made openly negative/shady comments about in her entire career, and they were all acts that either said something nasty about her first, or Jennifer Lopez who was probably just the scapegoat for something that was orchestrated by Tommy and Irv Gotti.
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Post by Carlitoz on Mar 6, 2014 14:43:24 GMT -5
What made you think I was, ha , ha. I just went to wiki and it said 1969 and 1970. I just chose 1970 to avoid lambs saying that I'm calling their queen old.... I was being considerate. ;) To be honest I was a HUGE fan of hers since her first album. I don't know how old you are or if you lived that era, but I couldn't stop listening to Mariah. LOVED her second album and her unplugged. Those to studio albums I still love and bring so many amazing memories. I did buy her next two albums and enjoyed some tracks out of them. Butterfly i didn't buy, but again I did enjoy some tracks. After that it all started going down for my personal preferences/taste. For the last 15 years I've rarely liked anything from her. Who knows perhaps 6 songs max. I don't know. So yes, I guess you can say that I am not a fan...now. :) Oh! I totally loved The Art Of Letting Go though. :) But you chose 1969 though. Anyhow, regardless, in that vid you posted she shaded Madge because Madge was talking s**t about her for NO reason....as per usual. Mariah is not one to just hate for the hell of it. She throws shade to the people that come for her first. Rightfully so. You're right!!! ha ha. Here i was thinking I was being considerate :) I have to accept I was not aware that Madonna had said something about Mariah first though. Good point. Thanks for letting me know.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Mar 6, 2014 14:44:18 GMT -5
Personally, I'm happy that Katy Perry threw some shade at Mariah. At least she was honest that Mariah Carey is a throwback 90s act. Mariah is not current anymore and I'm sick of her stripping in her videos trying to stay current. I don't know what makes Mariah think that she can stay relevant by getting naked in her videos. All she does is show her age. Mariah Carey looks like an over-the-hill hooker who has been phucked too many times and sucked to many diznicks.
This is coming from a former lamb who is just sick of what Mariah Carey has done to her career. Her career went downhill when she divorced Mattolla. He was the driving force behind her career and kept her in check. Now she is just out of control. Her music sucks. Did any of you hear the tragic "You're Mine"? It was horrible. Remember "Triumphant Get 'Em". What a disaster. Mariah has lost me. I can't stand her. Former lamb? lol yeah, ok.
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Post by Carlitoz on Mar 6, 2014 14:54:47 GMT -5
LOL at this Ashanti fan making up a new name to try to avenge his hairy queen. I can't. I have to say you really made me smile while reading your comment and at the same time seeing the face expression in your profile picture. Hairy queen..... You're terrible ha ha. As much as I can criticize Mariah, she's 1,000,000 times (times infinite) better than Ashanti. Now THAT girl doesn't do it for me 100%. For Mariah somewhere in my heart I do have a permanent spot for her, not huge, but let's say big enough to cover around 1/3 of her career. :)
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 6, 2014 14:58:28 GMT -5
Damn at everyone trying the hardest today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5
But you chose 1969 though. Anyhow, regardless, in that vid you posted she shaded Madge because Madge was talking s**t about her for NO reason....as per usual. Mariah is not one to just hate for the hell of it. She throws shade to the people that come for her first. Rightfully so. You're right!!! ha ha. Here i was thinking I was being considerate :) I have to accept I was not aware that Madonna had said something about Mariah first though. Good point. Thanks for letting me know. Madonna said this in a SPIN interview: She also made comments about Mariah being "not too bright" and said she'd rather kill herself than be Mariah Carey. Mariah was asked about it at a press conference, and responded with that famous quote. People always remember Mariah's response but not the Madonna comments that led to it. Probably because Mariah's was much more entertaining.
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 6, 2014 15:49:02 GMT -5
Second time hearing "You're Mine" on the radio. #JAM.
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Post by vipanonymous on Mar 6, 2014 15:57:36 GMT -5
This thread!!!
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Post by colson on Mar 6, 2014 16:17:33 GMT -5
You're right!!! ha ha. Here i was thinking I was being considerate :) I have to accept I was not aware that Madonna had said something about Mariah first though. Good point. Thanks for letting me know. Madonna said this in a SPIN interview: She also made comments about Mariah being "not too bright" and said she'd rather kill herself than be Mariah Carey. Mariah was asked about it at a press conference, and responded with that famous quote. People always remember Mariah's response but not the Madonna comments that led to it. Probably because Mariah's was much more entertaining. Madonna 'claimed' she never said that. Yeah right.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Mar 6, 2014 16:20:06 GMT -5
This thread!!! This era.
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Post by Me.I Am Panda on Mar 6, 2014 19:16:50 GMT -5
This thread!!! This era. This Mariah.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2014 19:48:25 GMT -5
When Madge said "I'd kill myself," it was in reply to the interviewer asking her if she'd sometimes rather be Carey, singing "silly pop songs." So there was more context to it. That was a year or so so after another comment she made, in an NME interview, where she was talking about how acts can't have a point of view and maintain big popularity. She said that Mimi and Whitney didn't have a "f***ing point of view," and then said someone like Mimi probably wishes she could be a provocative artist, whatnot, and then said something like, "if you're not particularly bright, you probably don't give a damn." So, yeah, Madge was in a quite bitchy era, and she was probably feeling a little bitter because she wasn't as hot commercially as she had been in the 80s and early 90s (which was in part because of what she was talking about, provoking, etc. ). I don't agree with what she said in regard to Mimi, as Mimi never once said she wanted to be provocative/challenging artist. And there wasn't really any reason for her to namedrop the two of them- she could have made her point without dropping names. As for Mimi's comment- obviously Madonna was popular at that time, but she also obviously wasn't as successful as Mimi was at that moment in time. So, that was her shady way of conveying that. Anyhow, that's all in the past. Mimi said good things about her after that, and Madge hasn't made any anti-Mimi comments publicly since that time. I believe she stated that she liked her record in 2008.
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Post by weaver on Mar 6, 2014 19:50:03 GMT -5
What made you think I was, ha , ha. I just went to wiki and it said 1969 and 1970. I just chose 1970 to avoid lambs saying that I'm calling their queen old.... I was being considerate. ;) To be honest I was a HUGE fan of hers since her first album. I don't know how old you are or if you lived that era, but I couldn't stop listening to Mariah. LOVED her second album and her unplugged. Those to studio albums I still love and bring so many amazing memories. I did buy her next two albums and enjoyed some tracks out of them. Butterfly i didn't buy, but again I did enjoy some tracks. After that it all started going down for my personal preferences/taste. For the last 15 years I've rarely liked anything from her. Who knows perhaps 6 songs max. I don't know. So yes, I guess you can say that I am not a fan...now. :) Oh! I totally loved The Art Of Letting Go though. :) But you chose 1969 though. Anyhow, regardless, in that vid you posted she shaded Madge because Madge was talking s**t about her for NO reason....as per usual. Mariah is not one to just hate for the hell of it. She throws shade to the people that come for her first. Rightfully so. If my memory serves me, Madonna said something like "I'd rather be dead than be Mariah Carey." This was in response to the interviewer repeating that to her, and asking her what she thought. EDIT Oops I should have read the whole page first...
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2014 19:51:36 GMT -5
^I just posted what she said"- it wasn't as dramatic as some in the press made it out to be. :)
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Post by get2nomey on Mar 6, 2014 19:58:31 GMT -5
Personally, I'm happy that Katy Perry threw some shade at Mariah. At least she was honest that Mariah Carey is a throwback 90s act. Mariah is not current anymore and I'm sick of her stripping in her videos trying to stay current. I don't know what makes Mariah think that she can stay relevant by getting naked in her videos. All she does is show her age. Mariah Carey looks like an over-the-hill hooker who has been phucked too many times and sucked to many diznicks.
This is coming from a former lamb who is just sick of what Mariah Carey has done to her career. Her career went downhill when she divorced Mattolla. He was the driving force behind her career and kept her in check. Now she is just out of control. Her music sucks. Did any of you hear the tragic "You're Mine"? It was horrible. Remember "Triumphant Get 'Em". What a disaster. Mariah has lost me. I can't stand her. I don't think Katy Perry was throwing shade the way Mariah was when she responded to questions about Madonna's statements. Katy Perry was just telling the truth. I think Mariah is finished as a mainstream popular artist. I think we should all forget about seeing her top the Hot 100. I get the feeling that she doesn't care about it as much because she does not put out material that is in the mainstream of what is playing on the radio these days. Also Mariah should stop trying to look sexy in her videos. It's a tired act and I agree she makes herself look like a prostitute.
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Mar 6, 2014 20:04:40 GMT -5
OOOP! Well she wasn't lying. Mariah IS good for a throwback..cause current Mimi...
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Post by musiclover98 on Mar 6, 2014 20:12:42 GMT -5
I wish we had something else to discuss other than ancient shade and a drunk Katy Perry. Like...an album. I won't be surprised if this project gets pushed back again.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Mar 6, 2014 20:23:42 GMT -5
I don't necessarily agree that Mariah is through commercially. Occasionally, we get glimpses of what makes Mariah great in #Beautiful everything was on point with the song itself now the video and performances not so much. Almost Home, You're Mine, and Art of Letting Go have great vocals. Triumphant is the only one of the songs she has released in the past two years that I absolutely detest. You're Mine has a great chorus and is sung well it just doesn't have any oomph like some of her stronger ballads. Mariah will never be a consistent commercial artist anymore, but with the right song, she is capable of smashing. She just has to drop her ego, and let things be about the music again.
I think her problem is figuring out a way to evolve her brand. I think she is struggling with finding a mix that works for what she wants to do musically and what will make her sound current as well. I am hoping Hitboy helped her with this. There is no reason why she should be struggling to do well on Urban radio and struggling to get R&B hits. If Toni Braxton can get a R&B number 1 there is no reason why Mariah can't either. I think the public can be generous and overlook to an extent, but overbearing them with kookiness and sexuality can take its toll. I don't mind a sexual Mariah when it comes off as natural like Honey, The Roof, Breakdown, My All, Touch My Body, Don't Forget About Us or Obsessed.
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Post by get2nomey on Mar 6, 2014 20:54:42 GMT -5
I don't necessarily agree that Mariah is through commercially. Occasionally, we get glimpses of what makes Mariah great in #Beautiful everything was on point with the song itself now the video and performances not so much. Almost Home, You're Mine, and Art of Letting Go have great vocals. Triumphant is the only one of the songs she has released in the past two years that I absolutely detest. You're Mine has a great chorus and is sung well it just doesn't have any oomph like some of her stronger ballads. Mariah will never be a consistent commercial artist anymore, but with the right song, she is capable of smashing. She just has to drop her ego, and let things be about the music again. I think her problem is figuring out a way to evolve her brand. I think she is struggling with finding a mix that works for what she wants to do musically and what will make her sound current as well. I am hoping Hitboy helped her with this. There is no reason why she should be struggling to do well on Urban radio and struggling to get R&B hits. If Toni Braxton can get a R&B number 1 there is no reason why Mariah can't either. I think the public can be generous and overlook to an extent, but overbearing them with kookiness and sexuality can take its toll. I don't mind a sexual Mariah when it comes off as natural like Honey, The Roof, Breakdown, My All, Touch My Body, Don't Forget About Us or Obsessed. I agree with most of your post but I think Mariah really overdoes it with the sexuality in her videos. Her videos of late have no point to them, they just show Mariah half naked. I thought the video to "#Beautiful" was ruined by her trying to be sexy with the much younger Miguel. It didn't look right. Mariah seemed liked an old auntie that was riding around with her nephew. In her most recent video she just looks like a dried up old prostitute. She looks a little fat and was struggling to be sexy. So I just think she'll have a hard time hitting no. 1 again.
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Post by Tea-why on Mar 6, 2014 20:56:43 GMT -5
Mariah was asked about it at a press conference, and responded with that famous quote. People always remember Mariah's response but not the Madonna comments that led to it. Probably because Mariah's was much more entertaining. Probably, but I think it also has to do with the fact that there's an actual video of Mariah's comment, whereas there isn't of Madonna's. But regardless, it was a while ago and I love both ladies. I wish their fan bases would put the "war" to rest.
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