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Post by Caution on Sept 8, 2023 5:22:38 GMT -5
The remix of Workin' Hard sounds like Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'from MJ. Is there a sample?
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Post by • Господин Умљеновић • on Sept 8, 2023 6:09:17 GMT -5
I am glad about Anytime you need a friend extended version. I just love that song. Def in my top 10 from her.
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Post by Push The Button on Sept 8, 2023 6:18:57 GMT -5
Oof, I just dropped $150 on the vinyl and CD at her shop because it wasn’t up at any retailers. She will always get these coins.
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Post by Leigh on Sept 8, 2023 6:26:26 GMT -5
It's such a gift to have new Music Box vocals in our lives, especially on My Prayer...that final note was what I needed this morning.
And I don't know what was missing for me in the Rarities' version of All I Live For (because that song just never connected with me like it seemed to with everyone else), but whatever it was, they sure found it and injected it right into this new version. I guess they found some new vocal stems or something, because this updated version is SO good.
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Post by bat1990 on Sept 8, 2023 7:41:32 GMT -5
“AIWFCIY - Extended Mix” is great to have! Love “Hero - 2009 Version” wasn’t needed. The jumpscare that AIWFCIY gave though. Agreed about Hero though. I can't think of a single person in the world who asked for that. Like...she couldn't find ANYTHING else to fill that spot?! She should've thrown in the radio version of "Never Forget You" instead even though we have it on the #MC30 maxi single.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 8, 2023 7:48:44 GMT -5
My goodness they really left some of the best songs of this era off this album. These bonus tracks + All I Live For + Everything Fades Away I’d rather have them on the original album than some of the other ballads that made the cut (looking at you All I’ve Ever Wanted, Just to Hold You Once Again) I agree, but I also like how Music Box stands on its own in her catalog as her only AC/Celine type album. "My Prayer" is my fave of the new stuff so far. She does that style of song so well, but I will be placing the song on Emotions. I like "Workin' Hard" but as of now it feels like a Janet demo to me (and the verse melody reminds me of "Young Hearts Run Free," does anyone else hear that?). It also has a "Here We Go Round Again" feel to it. "Hero 2009" wasn't needed by us, but we know Mariah is not a fan of the original so of course she was going to put the update on here. I would have preferred the acapella of "Now That I Know" though; it's stunning. Lastly, did anyone else notice they uploaded lyric videos for "Dreamlover," "Hero," and "Without You" to YouTube? Long overdue! The new pics are really nice.
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Post by Leigh on Sept 8, 2023 8:13:37 GMT -5
I also love that Endless Love finds a new home in Mariah's catalog. The years that go by where I forget that cover exists because it's hidden on Greatest Hits
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 8, 2023 8:16:40 GMT -5
I also love that Endless Love finds a new home in Mariah's catalog. The years that go by where I forget that cover exists because it's hidden on Greatest Hits It's too bad it got added to Music Box so late. I'm sure it's counting toward GH for RIAA purposes, and is probably the only song to do so (maybe the "AIWFCIY" remix). It actually streams fairly well, so it would be nice if it would now count toward Music Box but that ship has sailed. Meanwhile, love this:
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 8, 2023 8:18:29 GMT -5
“AIWFCIY - Extended Mix” is great to have! Love “Hero - 2009 Version” wasn’t needed. The jumpscare that AIWFCIY gave though. Agreed about Hero though. I can't think of a single person in the world who asked for that. Like...she couldn't find ANYTHING else to fill that spot?! fixed. Ya’ll need to open the Holiday Thread and fast.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 8, 2023 8:22:57 GMT -5
And I don't know what was missing for me in the Rarities' version of All I Live For (because that song just never connected with me like it seemed to with everyone else), but whatever it was, they sure found it and injected it right into this new version. I guess they found some new vocal stems or something, because this updated version is SO good. Exact feeling. I never connected to it with The Rarities but this hits! The remix of Workin' Hard sounds like Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'from MJ. Is there a sample? That’s what I said! I doubt there’s a sample. I think it’s just the phrasing in certain parts that sound similar. FYI:
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Post by The Black Bird on Sept 8, 2023 11:08:33 GMT -5
Wow, first of all, never in my wildest dreams I'd thought we would be getting this much from Music Box! Back in the 00's everybody was pretty certain Mariah did not have many unreleased records to begin with, so to be getting this much after all this time it's just mindblowing and from Music Box, arguably her vocal peak? Just astonishing!
The 3 standouts are clearly All I Live For (extended), My Prayer and Workin Hard, all great songs but so different from each other. Love the remixes as well, actually I might prefer the Working Hard remix over the original, it's more fun and current.
My theories:
All I Live For was excluded from the original MB because a) it's a tad too RnB for the corporate morgue's taste, although nothing really different from what Tony was releasing back in 1993 and having great sucess btw; b) the song is all about taming some man's insecurity, there's no way Tommy would allow that to be on their "wedding album", he just found the perfect excuse to exclude it.
My Prayer, I guess, was Mariah's present to Tommy. She was in love, no doubt about it, Tommy has always been very nostalgic of the 50's/60's, so my theory is that she recorded it as token of love, a way to please him and was probably glad it didn't make the final cut lol Thank God Without You was also recorded because it's a better cover and works way better on the album (not to mention the huge sucesse it turned out to be). Nonethless, MP it's a gorgeous version and a great addition to her catalog.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 8, 2023 11:13:51 GMT -5
I can't pinpoint when "My Prayer" could've been recorded. There's a grainy quality in her voice that doesn't sound like 1993. It's probably from early 1992, maybe even pre-MTV Unplugged.
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Post by imbuemyblue on Sept 8, 2023 12:35:48 GMT -5
Ugh, it's like Christmas (but not like the Christmas we deal with every year, haha)! I get chills listening to the 'new' stuff.... just takes me back to that beautiful place of discovering this golden voice and how transformative and magical it was. She has one of the greatest vocal gifts of all time. Obviously 'My Prayer' (Jesus, those vocals), 'Workin' Hard' and the extra stuff on 'All I Live For' are the highlights because they are really *new*, but I'm loving just taking everything in. I'll even put in a kind word for the Hero 2009 that nobody needed.... it's a testament to how strong her voice still was at that point, even if it's not 1993.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 8, 2023 13:29:22 GMT -5
It's funny (and annoying because I wanted to use the non-live version) how they added applause to the 'studio' version of "I'll Be There" to make it seem like it was part of the Proctor's concert.
Meanwhile if lambs were like Swifties they'd be saying the part at 11 seconds in was Mariah telling us she'd be feeding us 30 years later lmao:
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Post by Leigh on Sept 8, 2023 14:43:50 GMT -5
I'm totally getting Joy To The World Celebration remix from some of these vocal moments in the Workin' Hard remix! 😍
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 8, 2023 16:34:58 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 9, 2023 5:21:59 GMT -5
"My Prayer" is really stellar. That Broadway ending >>
I love how THE VAULT has become an entity of its own 😂 Ready for #Daydream30!
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 9, 2023 15:40:05 GMT -5
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 9, 2023 16:24:13 GMT -5
I literally saw that tweet and went and listened to "Encore" haha. Mariah's taste.
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Post by Nick on Sept 9, 2023 18:43:23 GMT -5
Love it! Mariah deserves all the praise. Cheryl had some jams herself. ❤️
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 9, 2023 20:57:55 GMT -5
Message from Queen Coco!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 9, 2023 21:00:27 GMT -5
I literally saw that tweet and went and listened to "Encore" haha. Mariah's taste. A bop and a half. Her ear >>
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 9, 2023 23:55:40 GMT -5
Message from Queen Coco! Come back to us Motha
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Post by Dreams on Sept 10, 2023 10:25:26 GMT -5
A lamb tweeted Mariah gushing about #MB30 and said something along the lines of “can’t wait for the new album next year!!!”. Mariah liked the tweet. Make of that what you will. lol
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Post by colson on Sept 10, 2023 10:28:24 GMT -5
I love this extended version of AILF. It's now one of my favorite songs from MB era.
**Also, I miss Coco.
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Post by Ernesto on Sept 10, 2023 10:48:00 GMT -5
I love everything we got! Been playing the extended versions of "All I Live for" and "Anytime You Need a Friend" quite a bit.
And I would love for Coco to return!!
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 10, 2023 13:42:52 GMT -5
I don't know why I am surprised, but the CD and vinyl won't ship til...Feb 2024. I guess I'll break down and listen to everything sooner than later then.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 10, 2023 14:17:12 GMT -5
Cheryl Lynn praises the lovely "Just to Hold You Once Again" in particular:
And then so did Claude Kelly, who raved about the album and "JTHYO"
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 10, 2023 15:17:27 GMT -5
The taste.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 10, 2023 15:40:34 GMT -5
Tanaka is SHOOK.
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