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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 4, 2023 9:20:31 GMT -5
Not surprised in the least. I don't even know any Mariah fans down here, let alone lambs. One of the biggest lambs I know, lives in Texas. Just sayin |
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Post by clsvltn on Oct 4, 2023 9:43:14 GMT -5
I was watching the new Hot Ones with N Sync, and JC (the actual best member of the group) noted that in its day a #1 on TRL was bigger than a #1 on the Hot 100. I don't know if that's true, but TRL was certainly a huge pop culture thing. I was just reviewing all of the videos that hit #1 on TRL, and I had completely forgotten that "Through the Rain" and "Say Somethin'" hit #1. Wow. The Mariah videos to hit #1 on TRL: TRL was also great because pop, rock, and R&B were all represented, but it was also very niche in that MTV was niche. 106 & Park of course also became huge in the early 2000s and would air for more than a decade.
I heard him make that comment also. I think for NSYNC and BSB the TRL #1 probably was bigger than the Hot 100. I used to remember coming home after school every day and racing to be by the TV with my snack to watch. Or being sure to watch every day in the summer when it was too hot outside! The insane amount of fans that they would bring to Times Square was just wild. Eminem, Britney, etc. it really did something for their careers. TRL was super hip and cool and I'm sure plenty of radio programmers and other music related things used to keep their ears and eyes on what TRL was playing and doing since the demographic of TRL was what also needed to appeal to listeners of radio/etc. I wouldn't say MTV was "niche" during that time, that was still when MTV Was quite popular and respected and of course still played a ton of music. TRL was like my generations version of TikTok of finding out music and being with the fan communities and stuff. Rallying together to vote for your favorite video, etc. I think TRL truly was a cultural institution.
On a side note since this is the Mariah thread, I still remember the day Mariah came on with her ice cream cart LOL that was definitely also one of the most iconic moments
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Post by die Lotterie on Oct 4, 2023 13:52:26 GMT -5
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Post by kmbgs on Oct 4, 2023 20:21:57 GMT -5
Snatched some mid level tickets for the Hollywood Bowl, which is the worst venue in the country imo!
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Post by AmazDrag on Oct 5, 2023 9:15:22 GMT -5
I am shaking and crying. I am front row right in the centre.
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Post by bat1990 on Oct 5, 2023 9:29:48 GMT -5
Grrr, one must buy two tickets to do so in the presale.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 5, 2023 9:36:17 GMT -5
Radiant yet relatable
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Post by cking33 on Oct 5, 2023 14:56:45 GMT -5
I don't necessarily disagree with JC, because at the time we know that the most popular songs in the country didn't always hit No. 1 on the Hot 100 because of the chart rules. Their labels usually didn't make their songs widely available as singles. Yeah it wasn't the chart rules, it was that the labels didn't release physical singles. Even when Billboard started allowing airplay-only songs to chart (which happened just before the peak of 90s teen pop), boy bands still weren't often getting #1s because physical singles weren't available. To that end I get what you mean and perhaps it is what JC meant. Ironically NSync were the only 'boy band' to get a #1 since "It's Gonna Be Me" was released as a physical single and got 2 weeks at #1. It sales weren't overly high, though, so I assume it was a limited single. Do you know? And yes JamaicaFunk², I definitely remember "My All" being on Total Request. According to Wikipedia that show debuted in April 1998. Yeah you're right I misspoke a bit, the labels could have had those songs at No. 1 if they made the singles widely available, even if only for a limited time and in limited shipments. I remember "My Heart Will Go On" getting to No. 1 that way. They made like only 500,000 copies available and that was enough to get it to No. 1. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 5, 2023 19:37:15 GMT -5
Yeah it wasn't the chart rules, it was that the labels didn't release physical singles. Even when Billboard started allowing airplay-only songs to chart (which happened just before the peak of 90s teen pop), boy bands still weren't often getting #1s because physical singles weren't available. To that end I get what you mean and perhaps it is what JC meant. Ironically NSync were the only 'boy band' to get a #1 since "It's Gonna Be Me" was released as a physical single and got 2 weeks at #1. It sales weren't overly high, though, so I assume it was a limited single. Do you know? And yes JamaicaFunk², I definitely remember "My All" being on Total Request. According to Wikipedia that show debuted in April 1998. Yeah you're right I misspoke a bit, the labels could have had those songs at No. 1 if they made the singles widely available, even if only for a limited time and in limited shipments. I remember "My Heart Will Go On" getting to No. 1 that way. They made like only 500,000 copies available and that was enough to get it to No. 1. Yup. Other #1s that had limited releases included "One Week," "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing," and of course several Mariah #1s (I'll Be There, Heartbreaker, and TGIFY all had limited releases). Billboard gets a lot of flak for the charts at the time, but they were in a no-win situation. When they only allowed songs with physical singles to chart it of course left some big hits out, but then when they allowed airplay-only hits to chart it led to them getting lower peaks than maybe it felt like they deserved. That wasn't really Billboard's fault, though. As you noted labels could have released a physical single. The late 1990s and early 2000s were the peak for album sales in most of our lifetime, and labels definitely focus there more. |
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Post by Dreams on Oct 8, 2023 6:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by Leigh on Oct 8, 2023 7:03:10 GMT -5
I’m wondering whether we’re going to get the Chick album alongside Daydream30
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Post by Ivy Leegueâ„¢ on Oct 8, 2023 8:19:55 GMT -5
Not surprised in the least. I don't even know any Mariah fans down here, let alone lambs. One of the biggest lambs I know, lives in Texas. Just sayin I know! But, I'm sayin other than me, people here don't seem to love her. |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 8, 2023 10:29:23 GMT -5
One of the biggest lambs I know, lives in Texas. Just sayin I know! But, I'm sayin other than me, people here don't seem to love her.  can should |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 8, 2023 10:56:02 GMT -5
Interesting choice of covering "Nevertheless"
She did "LTT" as well!
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Post by Dreams on Oct 9, 2023 18:42:24 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 10, 2023 10:30:14 GMT -5
Johnta Austin talks about Mariah and others below, I should have it set to start with the Mariah section. He gives her a lot of praise:
He gives her credit for the little parts that make "Shake It Off."
He seems to have the timeline wrong, though, or previous reports were wrong because he says they did GYN, SIO, and ILT in the initial sessions and then LA Reid said he thinks they have one more.
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Post by nightshade on Oct 10, 2023 14:51:50 GMT -5
PLEASE. Giving Me Life is my favorite from Caution. I was SO happy when I heard they worked together. Do it again, queen. |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 10, 2023 17:46:26 GMT -5
PLEASE. Giving Me Life is my favorite from Caution. I was SO happy when I heard they worked together. Do it again, queen. A masterpiece. |
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Post by mikeshere27 on Oct 11, 2023 6:13:33 GMT -5
Giving Me Life is her best song in a decade. IMO
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Post by Caution on Oct 11, 2023 13:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by @DjKingBee on Oct 13, 2023 8:30:53 GMT -5
Did I miss something ? It’s a wrap got a vinyl release ?
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 13, 2023 18:54:43 GMT -5
Did I miss something ? It’s a wrap got a vinyl release ? It just went up for preorder today. Shipping on November 30. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 14, 2023 19:10:05 GMT -5
Kelly is looking snatched! Anyway more than writing together, I'd just love to see Mariah do the vocal arrangement on a Kelly song.
I'd also love to hear Kelly cover "You Need Me," even just on her Kellyoke thing. In some ways it feels like the template for a lot of Kelly's songs ("Walk Away" and the like). Not that it will ever happen, but in general it would be cool to hear the women she's influenced cover some of her lesser known songs to give them attention:
Kelly - "You Need Me"
Ariana - "Forever"
J Hud - "Vanishing"
Brandy - "Lullaby"
Ella Mai - "Subtle Invitation"
Olivia Rodrigo - "Long Ago"
Doja Cat - "You Don't Know What to Do"
Taylor Swift - "Thanks For Nothin'"
Beyonce - "Breakdown"
SZA - "Babydoll"
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Post by Ivy Leegueâ„¢ on Oct 15, 2023 22:40:51 GMT -5
Interesting choices. Maybe Olivia and Taylor could sing something from Chick, but that's really it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 17, 2023 7:05:29 GMT -5
She looks stunning in that shade of red.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 17, 2023 14:18:32 GMT -5
Two new interviews, too, so I guess this stuff is starting now!
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Post by Caution on Oct 18, 2023 9:30:50 GMT -5
She looks stunning in that shade of red. I've never seen Mariah's daughter without glasses before. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 19, 2023 11:41:18 GMT -5
Mariah placed 3 songs on the list:
15. Fantasy
97. All I Want for Christmas is You
199. We Belong Together
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Post by colson on Oct 19, 2023 12:16:53 GMT -5
The top 20 is highly questionable.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 19, 2023 17:46:01 GMT -5
 at Super Bass being ahead of Fantasy. Like wut |
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