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Post by surfy on Feb 2, 2015 20:05:55 GMT -5
Oh boy... here we go again.
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Post by bunifah on Feb 2, 2015 20:33:48 GMT -5
That "colder than myself" adlib she sang on the bridge of "Always Be My Baby" got me thinking about how she must be feeling right now. I'd just love to hug her :'( Love how she is finally doing some freestyle with her vocals and playing around with the notes. About time Was she drunk tho? She doesnt look alright She looks and acts like people when they are extremely sad yet WANT to pretend they are feeling nice and cool. It was really sad to watch. Shes so not in a good place right now emotionally
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 20:39:35 GMT -5
She had fun with "Shake It Off" too. I was so sick of her singing that song live-- so boring-- but I like how she mixes it up now.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 2, 2015 20:53:36 GMT -5
Her body tho...She sounds fantastic in ABMB so I don't really care about those stupid lip-synching moments. Of course, the video from ABMB will not be publicized. I get that a lot of uninformed people will pick up on the story and run with it but... :kanyeshrug: And yeah, that was the best Shake It Off she has done live...maybe ever? I mean, it's kinda like someone just performing in their living room, the way she tosses off notes here and there but I prefer this casual style with strong vocal moments to a bunch of vocal failure moments or lip-synching.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Feb 2, 2015 21:36:41 GMT -5
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 2, 2015 22:43:09 GMT -5
The saddest thing about Mariah right now is how someone who was consistently solid on her A Game goes to destroying her brand and not even giving a crap. She should care her name is out there on everything she does. She should want to do better for herself and her kids. Show them what being a professional really means.
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Post by JamaicaFunkΒ² on Feb 3, 2015 15:56:04 GMT -5
I hope Caesars cancels her residency and I get my $1,000 back. Even I have no interest in seeing her perform.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Feb 3, 2015 16:37:48 GMT -5
I hope Caesars cancels her residency and I get my $1,000 back. Even I have no interest in seeing her perform. If you had no interest in seeing her why would you spend $1,000.00 on tickets?
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Post by Mack on Feb 3, 2015 16:48:57 GMT -5
Well, she looks amazing right now.
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Post by JamaicaFunkΒ² on Feb 3, 2015 17:40:48 GMT -5
I hope Caesars cancels her residency and I get my $1,000 back. Even I have no interest in seeing her perform. If you had no interest in seeing her why would you spend $1,000.00 on tickets? Because it was promising after the Xmas shows. I HAD a lot of interest in seeing her, especially in a Vegas setting. And this would be my fourth mariah concert. But, she's a wreck right now. A residency should be the last thing on her mind. This is the worst press of her career. And with a voice like this, she won't be shutting down any haters anytime soon.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Feb 3, 2015 18:05:55 GMT -5
If you had no interest in seeing her why would you spend $1,000.00 on tickets? Because it was promising after the Xmas shows. I HAD a lot of interest in seeing her, especially in a Vegas setting. And this would be my fourth mariah concert. But, she's a wreck right now. A residency should be the last thing on her mind. This is the worst press of her career. And with a voice like this, she won't be shutting down any haters anytime soon. The worst press of her career was the Glitter debacle. She sang beautifully for the rest of the concert. None of those articles mention that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 18:57:35 GMT -5
The average music fan isn't watching YouTube videos to hear the parts she "sang beautifully". They're seeing one negative news report about her recent live performances after another. That's not going to do her any favors with ticket sales. The press/readers aren't interested in "Mariah Carey Sang 80% of her Concert Well". Shouldn't that be the expectation, at minimum? But when "The Voice" is caught lip syncing so badly that it seems like she can't even remember the words to one of her biggest hits, that's obviously going to generate attention. Even if this were an issue with her ear monitors, I've never heard of another pop star who has ear monitor issues with 75%+ of her performances. If she is having issues with her ear monitors that often, she needs to hire new sound engineers.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 3, 2015 20:05:51 GMT -5
Ugh. I'mma need her to shut shit down again, basically, like she did for Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:11:20 GMT -5
It's not ear monitor problems. It never has been. That's just an excuse. Mariah has always been protected by the big corporate machine now she is without protection and this is what happens. She clearly lost her voice somewhere down the line (i think it happened around Glitter). She freaked and had to re-adjust the way she did business. The corporate machine was back on her side from Charm-E=MC2, but she fell out of the good graces once again.
Mariah has had some better performances then Whitney and Celine over the years, however she's been less consistent then them in her live singing over the years. Many times Sony dubbed her stuff and she has done a TON of lipping as the years went on. I think the jig is finally up for her. Unless Sony can bring her back and protect her image once again.
I do think she can still hit certain notes and even sing new songs, but those songs of the early 90's should not be done anymore after the #1's shows. (I'm still hoping she brings the show to a world wide tour like a finale tour). Then she can just go forward from where her voice is and ditch those old songs (unfortunately).
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 3, 2015 20:15:50 GMT -5
Oh wow...that was really embarrassing. Damn.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Feb 3, 2015 20:42:46 GMT -5
She's been lip syncing "Fantasy" for the past two decades and it is a thing now?
I agree that hard work always pays off, so I'm the first to expect some dedication from her. However, I'm afraid she is in a losing game with the press right now, because they seem eager to only emphasize negative aspects of her performances.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 3, 2015 20:58:29 GMT -5
The problem for Mariah is she makes it very easy to emphasize the negative. There was no reason to lip sync there. She was in fine voice from the parts I heard that were live. I hope when she is back under LA Reid's reins that they work on finding a good manager to really help rebrand her. She needs it badly. There are a lot of things that she puts out there that she doesn't need to put out there, and then she gets taken to task. I think it needs to be made clear to Mariah if she is making the choice to do a live performance, then that is what she needs to deliver. I understand in some instances that some tv spots require pre-recorded or even lip syncing, but any other commitment she makes needs to be 85-90% live.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 21:05:37 GMT -5
I'm afraid she is in a losing game with the press right now, because they seem eager to only emphasize negative aspects of her performances. Because what about Mariah giving a decent performance is worthy of publishing? No one wants to read about that. The only time the press really reports on tour performances is if they're shockingly bad or if it's opening night. Mariah is also notorious, even among fans, for bombing opening nights and one-off performances. The press isn't going to decide to publish articles about how Mariah started to put on good performances on the 3rd or 4th date of a tour. No one other than fans is interested in that. That's why Mariah needs to be on her A-game for high-profile performances or performances opening nights. When opening night is a mess, and the press latches onto that, the damage is already done.
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 3, 2015 22:14:20 GMT -5
A couple of high profile performances that people will see would certainly help (assuming she nails them), but I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah doesn't perform anything until her first Vegas show. Hopefully LA is taking action because the Vegas shows need to be good. The good news is that her voice still seems to be in decent shape.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Feb 3, 2015 23:12:07 GMT -5
A couple of high profile performances that people will see would certainly help (assuming she nails them), but I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah doesn't perform anything until her first Vegas show. Hopefully LA is taking action because the Vegas shows need to be good. The good news is that her voice still seems to be in decent shape. You are welcome. EDIT: Yikes!!! Already posted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 8:43:34 GMT -5
Imagine if Mariah was the "throwback" artist Katy Perry brought to the Superbowl?? I noticed Missy Elliot has 3 songs in the top 10 on iTunes and the new generation is digging her songs (some even think she's a new break out artist). This would've been exactly what Mariah would've needed heading into a Vegas show to merge old listeners with new. Much better then some Jamaican music festival that was all over the place.
What would your set list be if Mariah came on as a guest and could only do a melody of 4 songs?
Mine would be: start: FANTASY (INTRO) move onto EMOTIONS CHOURUS then TOUCH MY BODY last HERO BRIDGE (with the stadium going all dark and one giant spotlight on the center stage shining down on Mariah. When the song finishes she disappears).
#1sPromo would've been SO GOOD
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 8:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 4, 2015 10:52:02 GMT -5
No thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 12:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 4, 2015 13:41:57 GMT -5
RiRi knows how to keep it cute when she wants to. Even vocal greats like Beyonce and Kelly Clarkson and Xtine have cited Mariah as their primary influence.
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Post by inclinations on Feb 4, 2015 16:34:35 GMT -5
I feel like almost every big voiced pop female artist has mentioned Vision Of Love as a prime inspiration.
Anyway, what's everyone's favorite non-single album tracks from her?
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 4, 2015 20:05:37 GMT -5
My favorite game:
Butterfly: 1. Close My Eyes 2. Outside 3. The Beautiful Ones
Charmbracelet: 1. Yours 2. Lullaby 3. My Saving Grace 4. Subtle Invitation
Daydream: 1. I Am Free 2. Melt Away 3. Looking In
E=MC2: 1. I Wish You Well 2. Cruise Control 3. Side Effects
TEOM: 1. Stay The Night 2. Joy Ride 3. I Feel It (yeah, I'm counting it since it belongs to this era and the only unreleased track of hers I TRULY care about, other than Skydiving...which was never presented in good, finished form anyway, so...)
(FLAB was a single right? Because it's my second favorite song on TEOM after Joy Ride but I don't know if it was released to Gospel or something)
Emotions: 1. So Blessed 2. If It's Over
Glitter: 1. Lead The Way 2. If We (NOT mixed by a Ja Rule and Nate Dogg stan)
Mariah Carey: 1. Vanishing
MIAM...TEC: 1. Cry. 2. Make It Look Good 3. Faded 4. Supernatural 5. Camouflage 6. One More Try 7. Heavenly
Memoirs: 1. Ribbon 2. Candy Bling 3. It's A Wrap
Music Box: 1. Just To Hold You Once Again 2. Music Box
Rainbow: 1. Bliss 2. Petals
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Post by Caviar on Feb 4, 2015 20:14:10 GMT -5
.01 The Wind .02 Candy Bling .03 Vanishing .04 I Am Free .05 Music Box .06 All I've Ever Wanted .07 Close My Eyes .08 Bliss .09 Yours .10 Outside
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 4, 2015 20:35:10 GMT -5
YESSSS @ this perfect taste!
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Post by Mean A$$ on Feb 4, 2015 20:56:35 GMT -5
- Vanishing - And You Don't Remember - All I've Ever Wanted - Underneath the Stars - Looking In - The Beautiful Ones - Fourth of July - After Tonight - Want You - All My Life - Lullaby - Circles - For the Record - Ribbon - Faded - Meteorite
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