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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 9:14:01 GMT -5
Hopefully LA Reid hooks her up with his good buddy Babyface. They could write a beautiful song together.
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Post by MFM29 on Feb 1, 2015 9:39:41 GMT -5
Hopefully LA Reid hooks her up with his good buddy Babyface. They could write a beautiful song together. they already worked together on music box's "never forget you"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 9:43:01 GMT -5
and "When You Believe".
I like their work together.
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Post by weaver on Feb 1, 2015 9:51:59 GMT -5
Hopefully LA Reid hooks her up with his good buddy Babyface. They could write a beautiful song together. they already worked together on music box's "never forget you" Also on Melt Away from Daydream...I don't think they have done anything since then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 9:55:39 GMT -5
I always felt that he should've been her go to ballad guy after Butterfly. (She did with "WYB"). Then she tried Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, David Foster, Big Jim Wright. Before finally settling on Big Jim.
rumor was they worked on one song for MIAMTEC but it never materialized. (I'm hoping for lack of time and not because they didn't click. Although she had all the time in the world to finish that album...)
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Post by Caution on Feb 1, 2015 12:26:18 GMT -5
THE VOICE
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 13:32:56 GMT -5
The lipping fiasco is front page TMZ. Also all over the blogs. This was not what she needed heading into this Vegas residency..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 13:38:21 GMT -5
Hopefully LA Reid hooks her up with his good buddy Babyface. They could write a beautiful song together. they already worked together on music box's "never forget you" That's one of her worst singles imo. Though they did do the sublime "Melt Away" on Daydream.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 1, 2015 14:28:22 GMT -5
The lipping fiasco is front page TMZ. Also all over the blogs. This was not what she needed heading into this Vegas residency.. Just saw that and came here. I don't get why this stuff happens. It really undermines the public's view of her - I'd certainly question after this stuff whether I should pay my hard earned money to see MC pull a Britney (it's expected with her but she can dance!). With MC, it's the voice! She has a lot of work to do in the next few months - it's possible - look at Xtina - the weeks before TV were horrendous with the SB disaster and other stuff.
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Post by popmusicking on Feb 1, 2015 14:29:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 15:29:50 GMT -5
The lipping fiasco is front page TMZ. Also all over the blogs. This was not what she needed heading into this Vegas residency.. Just saw that and came here. I don't get why this stuff happens. It really undermines the public's view of her - I'd certainly question after this stuff whether I should pay my hard earned money to see MC pull a Britney (it's expected with her but she can dance!). With MC, it's the voice! She has a lot of work to do in the next few months - it's possible - look at Xtina - the weeks before TV were horrendous with the SB disaster and other stuff. Yeah, there's all this talk about what kind of songs she could be doing to get herself back in the Top 40, but I think her brand is the biggest issue right now. She's always been highly polarizing on a personal level, but people at least recognized her talent. If she's going to keep giving these performances that look like she just rolled out of bed to collect some coin, she's going to have trouble moving concert tickets (the Christmas show sell-out was great, but it was the Beacon filled with big fans). LA has his work cut out for him with rebuilding her image again, and the potential for him to hit the jackpot with her at 45 isn't nearly as great as it was when she was 34.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 16:11:34 GMT -5
And yet all it takes is one big song. Com'on LA, Mariah!
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 1, 2015 18:49:18 GMT -5
Mariah has to want to rebuild herself again. A decade ago, she had the hunger and drive to do that, but I don't know how badly she wants it now. At the very least, she needs to consistently give good performances if she wants people to see her in Vegas. There are no excuses for poor performances, especially since her shows at the Beacon were so good.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 1, 2015 18:53:53 GMT -5
Just saw that and came here. I don't get why this stuff happens. It really undermines the public's view of her - I'd certainly question after this stuff whether I should pay my hard earned money to see MC pull a Britney (it's expected with her but she can dance!). With MC, it's the voice! She has a lot of work to do in the next few months - it's possible - look at Xtina - the weeks before TV were horrendous with the SB disaster and other stuff. Yeah, there's all this talk about what kind of songs she could be doing to get herself back in the Top 40, but I think her brand is the biggest issue right now. She's always been highly polarizing on a personal level, but people at least recognized her talent. If she's going to keep giving these performances that look like she just rolled out of bed to collect some coin, she's going to have trouble moving concert tickets (the Christmas show sell-out was great, but it was the Beacon filled with big fans). LA has his work cut out for him with rebuilding her image again, and the potential for him to hit the jackpot with her at 45 isn't nearly as great as it was when she was 34. Exactly. But she overcame Glitter/Charmbracelet. It took 3+ years, but it happened because of the music. It's hard to believe that ILT was the first single TEOM and it seemed like she was pretty much done in terms of huge hits, but the right song changed everything. Mariah's biggest advantage is her writing - with all the stuff she has experienced, great songs she be there. She just needs the right guidance. And no more bathing suit videos!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:33:17 GMT -5
A decade ago....literally.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 23:34:36 GMT -5
I count 2008/09 her last big years. (2013 was good because she was on TV twice a week and scored a top 15 hit single). But In '08/'09 she had a: #1, #19, #15, #7 on the Billboard Hot100. That was pretty impressive. So really she's only been out of the Top 20 charts consistently for 6 years.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Feb 2, 2015 0:06:18 GMT -5
The source is absolutely laughable. I mean, The Inquisitr? Ya really gonna believe the site?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 1:48:22 GMT -5
Her image is in kind of a bad place. I've said this before but I think that over-the-top diva thing ages her. I get why she does it, and I think it has worked in the past (those MTV ads she did were hilarious) but right now, it makes her look like Norma Desmond instead of Blair Waldorf, which I think is what she's going for.
I don't think it's something that she can't come back from though. It's like...people want to like Mariah but only if she makes it easy for them to admit that they do. It's not like the diva thing never works--the album title and the vines of her taking the subway were both fine but it's super hit or miss and I think it just makes her feel more and more like a novelty act. At this point, everything she's done suggests that she doesn't care about her public perception anymore and she's essentially done everything she needs to be happy with the state of her career. The only thing I think that would bring her back down to Earth is the expectation that she needs to succeed, like with the Vegas act.
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Post by musiclover98 on Feb 2, 2015 1:57:44 GMT -5
Her image is an unfortunate mess. She literally doesn't care. When I tell people that I'm a huge Mariah fan they look at me with pity and say "well I liked the old Mariah." And by that you know they mean either Mariah in the 90's or Mariah as the emancipated MiMi. No one is interested in her diva ways. She tries to make it a joke, but it's going over everyone's heads. I pray the news about L.A. Reid brings about some sense of change. Up until she married Nick, she was a professional business woman who knew how to act. Something about him and that relationship brought about a drastic shift in her personality in my opinion. I get her jokes and don't mind the diva personality. But everyone else sees it a bit a different.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 2, 2015 12:09:59 GMT -5
Did she injure her arm again?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 2, 2015 12:26:30 GMT -5
t- were you just including "#Beautiful's" peak in there? Because there was no #15 peak in 2008/2009, as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 12:35:38 GMT -5
t- were you just including "#Beautiful's" peak in there? Because there was no #15 peak in 2008/2009, as far as I know. I looked up all her singles on wikipedia just to double check the peaks and it says IBLYLT peaked at #15 on the Hot 100 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ll_Be_Lovin%27_U_Long_TimeI should've checked Billboard who have it at #67 peak...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 12:46:36 GMT -5
Oh, Mariah....
I understand she purposely over does the diva act, but it doesn't come off as funny or endearing at her age. I always hate it when legendary artist stops giving a sh*it, but especially when no one will give the artist a reality check.
Mariah really needs to take a break, she's been tarnishing her own legacy. Don't let the younger generation remember you like this, Mariah.
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Post by Candy Bling on Feb 2, 2015 15:03:21 GMT -5
What Diva-ish things did she do in Jamaica? She performed, with technical difficulties in the beginning but sang the rest of the show live then left to return to her babies.
It's awful that all the over great performances are being overlooked because of one bad performance.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 2, 2015 15:12:33 GMT -5
t- IBLULT peaked at No. 58 on the Hot 100. That Wiki page for it was a hot mess in regard to the charts section. I updated the Hot 100, Mainstream Top 40 and R&B peaks.
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Post by cjay on Feb 2, 2015 16:11:03 GMT -5
Maybe this Vegas Residency is not a good idea right now. She should really take a break to collect herself. If she doesn't take a break, then I hope LA Reid helps to rebuild her image. The number one thing is the inconsistent vocal performances. They gotta know that people aren't coming to see her background dancers or fancy/flashy gown. They are coming because they want to be taken to church and back with them legendary vocals. She MUST given consistently good vocal performances--at least don't mess up on national televised events. The second thing is to make her seem more relatable and humble. As fans we know the diva act is a joke, but the general public still doesn't get it. A big part of why TEOM was so successful is because the era started off with her being very humble like and relatable. Then she had great music to match.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 16:12:17 GMT -5
t- IBLULT peaked at No. 58 on the Hot 100. That Wiki page for it was a hot mess in regard to the charts section. I updated the Hot 100, Mainstream Top 40 and R&B peaks. nice job but it still says #15 in the body of the txt right at the top of the page. I guess 2008/09 looked like this: #1, #19, #58, #82 (my love), #7, #60
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Post by QAF on Feb 2, 2015 16:17:39 GMT -5
Why was Mariah lip synching again? Didn't her voice come back to form during her Christmas shows?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 17:16:04 GMT -5
Here's a GREAT cover she could do for the #1's album. It's an old Japanese song that was coverted to an American song in 1981 and went to #3 on the Hot 100. And then remade (by a Boys II Men type group) in 1994 and it went to #8. But it hasn't ever gone to #1...that could be Mariah's version! It would make so much sense because the song is so beautifully written and the subject matter would really hit home for Mariah and the her audience. It would also be an (inside) tribute to Japan for all their support of #1s. The first line kills me!!! Check it out: Original American remake 1981: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYqjrLaKAESecond Remake 1994: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCCB2dixm4c
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