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Post by Caviar on Oct 21, 2016 11:31:16 GMT -5
Let's not even compare Alicia Keys and Christina Aguilera with that weak ass shade. Neither one is crossing 100k and HERE will be lucky to even come close to Lotus first week sales. Right now she'd be lucky to top Solange's last album so the hyperbole is unnecessary and definitely out of touch. weak ass shade?? LOL! Chill! I aint shading anyone I was comparing her to Christina because we were talking about The Voice and how female judges flopped after participating the show. Did I directly quote you?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 12:25:52 GMT -5
IMO the female judges who release while on the Voice flop because their labels think 'oh, you're on The Voice? Great, that means we don't have to spend a lot/any money or effort on marketing or getting you a radio hit' and then they're proven wrong, every single time. I think Lotus was the only one where, on paper, most things were done according to a proper plan, but Christina was going through her 'fuck live singing, fuck wardrobe, fuck makeup' phase - so an own-worst-enemy situation where the label checked out after the first single didn't blow up. And Usher and Pharrell didn't release anything at all during their time on the voice; but Pharrell is a producer first and artist second, so I'll cut him a pass for that.
Adam (M5) and Blake are the only two who seem to have benefited from being on the show, and not coincidentally those two also do other promotion, work their songs at radio, get the timing right, etc. You know, all the stuff that you're supposed to do along with the Voice exposure, instead of expecting The Voice to substitute for it. It looks like Alicia's going to join the long line of others who don't really get everything out of this that she should, but I take solace in that she is probably getting paid a really nice penny to be there, she's clearly massively respected on levels that some of us in the peanut gallery can't quite comprehend, and whatever her opening is will likely be at least slightly improved just from being on the show and reminding people she still exists. None of these people will be in cardboard boxes any time soon.
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 21, 2016 12:33:50 GMT -5
I just think the album rollout has been messy and quite too secretive for it to be successful. She has the tools. Even with "Blended Family", there is a lack of in certain how it being promoted. "In Common" got a good run of promo slots and still it did nothing even though here in NYC, it felt like a hit. At this point, being sloppy won't work for her. I hope the saving grace that it will be release during the holiday season; however, you have to take in consideration Bruno and The Weeknd. Those two have instant hits because they are "of the moment" artists right now so she will easily overshadowed this holiday passing. She used to rule the holidays, now not so much.
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Post by music89 on Oct 22, 2016 7:34:10 GMT -5
The promo has been a mess lately. In Common should have been a hit on the radio but they didn't care. Now why aren't they sending Blended Family to Pop Radios?! Smh
Also...if she doesn't promote next week and the week after, when the album is out, ugh...poor her. The Voice alone will not work. It's like they don't care...
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 22, 2016 10:57:28 GMT -5
Wait, GOF sold 1.1 million? Is that SPS?
I swear I remember it being at around 650k at some point in late 2013.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Oct 22, 2016 11:06:56 GMT -5
Wait, GOF sold 1.1 million? Is that SPS? I swear I remember it being at around 650k at some point in late 2013. Yeah, those numbers are questionable. I'm gonna need some receipts on those. It was right over 700,000 after a year of release. I doubt anyone was streaming that album enough for it to get 400,000 more units.
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 22, 2016 11:38:19 GMT -5
Wait, GOF sold 1.1 million? Is that SPS? I swear I remember it being at around 650k at some point in late 2013. Yeah, those numbers are questionable. I'm gonna need some receipts on those. It was right over 700,000 after a year of release. I doubt anyone was streaming that album enough for it to get 400,000 more units. Remember, "Girl on Fire" (the single) was a major hit for her, it did over 3 million in sales. I have mentioned before that the solo single should have been on the album because most brought the single instead of the album. However, with this new format, (the single) still count toward her album sales. So it is not surprising that the album would have done over 1 million with that single alone. Typically, that was always the case with Alicia. She has one major single that sells her album without an issue. However, in this case, her single was not on the parent album. Stupid.
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Post by felipe on Oct 22, 2016 13:57:10 GMT -5
Girl on Fire is still her top streamed song on Spotify, isn't it?
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 22, 2016 23:11:44 GMT -5
I believe "If I Ain't Got You" has overtaken it on Spotify since she sung it on The Voice. The popularity is high for that song right now.
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Post by music89 on Oct 23, 2016 14:34:22 GMT -5
They started filming The Voice Season 12 yesterday :o
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 23, 2016 16:56:47 GMT -5
They started filming The Voice Season 12 yesterday :o Really? Wasted no time, huh
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Post by music89 on Oct 26, 2016 3:54:00 GMT -5
So...on the iTunes Store they updated the length of the last song on the album...maybe we are getting a new song this Friday (it could be Holy War). Also...I would like to know the full tracklist Edit: Holy War is the last song on the album, I was right.
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Post by music89 on Oct 26, 2016 10:22:03 GMT -5
Nas ❤️
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 26, 2016 10:44:43 GMT -5
Honestly this album deserves to flop. The rollout has been a huge mess. Nothing excites me anymore and how she wants to release the same sh!t that she has been performing since the beginning of the era makes no sense. It is like she is another world in how to market herself when it is obvious what people want.
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Post by divasummer on Oct 26, 2016 11:10:23 GMT -5
Maybe she's performing her upcoming album tracks live now before album release because she doing things organically in her own way. Kind of like her makeup free thing and mother earth mentoring. I have never loved Alicia's cd's though I own most of them. Her type of music at times just isn't my thing. I always loved her live though and thought she seemed like a great person. I feel bad saying this but she's to much for me on "The Voice". I'm into soul searching and feelings but she has way to many at times for my liking. lol
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Post by SHOOTER on Oct 26, 2016 12:53:19 GMT -5
The album might suck but I'm genuinely in love with the album cover.
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Post by Ty on Oct 26, 2016 13:42:48 GMT -5
Sad @ "In Common" not being included.
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 26, 2016 17:05:03 GMT -5
The album might suck but I'm genuinely in love with the album cover. Its the best thing.
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Post by Max_X5 on Oct 26, 2016 20:32:13 GMT -5
I have virtually no interest in this album if "In Common" isn't on it; which is sad, because that song actually got me really excited for it when it came out.
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Post by Leigh on Oct 27, 2016 5:54:55 GMT -5
It is crazy that they haven't added In Common to the album !!?! It's the best song Alicia has released in years, I don't get it. It might not have blown up the charts, but it still attracted listeners and would be a pull for some potential buyers.
I love the album cover and I'm happy to see Nas' name :)
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Post by SHOOTER on Oct 27, 2016 9:42:33 GMT -5
If she scrapped IC because this album is gonna be nothing but "inspirational/we shall overcome/rise up" tunes, she. can. keep. it!
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 27, 2016 13:54:29 GMT -5
Well....I'm still looking forward to "She Don't Really Care". I believe that would be a great one.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Oct 27, 2016 14:53:33 GMT -5
I'm low-key excited for that NAS 'appearance'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 18:24:53 GMT -5
"Holy War" is exactly what I don't want from her.
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 27, 2016 18:56:33 GMT -5
I actually like "Holy War" and its the closing track. It has a country influence in it with it being guitar driven.
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Post by vsw on Oct 27, 2016 19:05:28 GMT -5
Can't believe IC is not included. She was like literally everywhere performing the song just a few months ago and now it doesn't even make the album? Ugh.
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Post by fire on Oct 27, 2016 22:01:10 GMT -5
It's on the Itunes tracklist though (at least "here" in Germany on the pre-order)
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 27, 2016 22:17:45 GMT -5
It's not on US version, but international, it is.
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Post by SHOOTER on Oct 28, 2016 1:31:10 GMT -5
A deluxe version I saw on Google Play has Hallelujah and IC tacked on at the end.
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Post by Samsonite Man on Oct 28, 2016 13:24:07 GMT -5
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