Agent Yoncé
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Mar 15, 2014 16:06:08 GMT -5
We're too damn slow, Ikea :(
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Post by josh on Mar 15, 2014 16:14:33 GMT -5
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 15, 2014 16:20:58 GMT -5
Love this. This is very reminiscent of her earlier material.
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Post by josh on Mar 15, 2014 16:20:58 GMT -5
It's cute. The production on the verses is pretty basic. I like the slowdown on the chorus.
No weird lyrics or voices (2:05 is different but not weird) so that's nice.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 15, 2014 16:27:50 GMT -5
It's a demo for sure, but aww it's cute.
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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 15, 2014 16:38:07 GMT -5
BN sounds OK. Nothing special IMO. Why would you post this? This guy is obviously a moron
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neally
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Post by neally on Mar 15, 2014 16:47:45 GMT -5
Love this. This is very reminiscent of her earlier material. Demo or not, I quite like the sound and enjoyed it more than anything on 'Artpop'.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 15, 2014 17:30:39 GMT -5
It is a cute song and VERY promising for a demo. I actually wouldn't mind it being finalized and polished and then put on the new album.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 15, 2014 17:42:47 GMT -5
Is it a demo?
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Post by nightshade on Mar 15, 2014 18:25:49 GMT -5
Brooklyn Nights is ok. I don't feel it touches much of anything on ARTPOP.
Her interview with John Norris was nothing short of great.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 15, 2014 18:30:43 GMT -5
If you don't like it, go somewhere else pls. Thanks, bye. This is a discussion forum, not an "everyone agrees" forum.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 18:31:08 GMT -5
That song is probably the best I've heard from her since 2010, barring maybe Do What U Want.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 15, 2014 18:39:03 GMT -5
If you don't like it, go somewhere else pls. Thanks, bye. This is a discussion forum, not an "everyone agrees" forum. It was already discussed on the last page, it indeed isn't.
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neally
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Post by neally on Mar 15, 2014 18:43:17 GMT -5
^^ Regarding the interview with John Norris, it was quite revealing as I have been more distant from her this era. I didn't realize how defensive she was but can completely understand her frustration with being compared to Katy Perry (of all people). I agree with Gaga in that she writes her own music, has a certain talent, quite different as a pop star than Katy Perry. That being said, I didn't care for the victim role that she painted herself as, nor the anti-pop, organic, earthy, indie, struggling artist persona that she is trying to convince her audience that she is. My personal opinion on the matter is: let your music do the talking for you. If an artist is indie, organic, and raw, he/she need not have to convince you of it. In the tennis world, one of things that I LOVED about Steffi Graf is that during interviews, when journalists asked if she was the greatest or other difficult questions, she would answer, "That's for you to decide". She let her racquet do the talking, and I wish that Gaga would do the same with her music.
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Post by allow that on Mar 15, 2014 19:35:52 GMT -5
"Brooklyn Nights" is a definite step in the right direction. Polish it and release it! Is it a game changer? No (it could have been three years ago before any other major label popstars dabbled with dubstep) but it's both catchy and accessible. It's kind of safe while still memorable; her best bet.
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Post by popbox on Mar 15, 2014 19:49:53 GMT -5
Brooklyn Nights certainly gives me hope her garbage at SXSW with the whole acting like she wanted to ditch pop and paint herself as some brooding indie act was just a momentary lapse of her drugs talking. I refuse to accept that the woman who built her career on her openly unabashed affection for straight up pop music, when pop was still struggling to overcome the urban takeover of most of the aughts decade, now all of a sudden hates it just because she's not the queen of the pop charts anymore. If the chart success is all her "love of pop" was ever truly about than man I feel like an idiot for being deceived all these years into thinking it was actually her passion. Maybe she is as phony as the haters have always said. Or again, maybe it was just a flash in the pan mood/high with her, which has certainly happened before. Bitch really needs to lay off the drugs for real.
Anyways, Brooklyn Nights sure doesn't give any hint of her wanting to turn away from pop, so that's a great sign.
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Post by tommymonster44 on Mar 15, 2014 19:55:23 GMT -5
Brooklyn nights was written at a North Carolina Monster Ball back in 2010.
So it is, in fact, old material. It was written before ARTPOP and Born This Way.
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Post by popbox on Mar 15, 2014 20:01:57 GMT -5
Brooklyn nights was written at a North Carolina Monster Ball back in 2010. So it is, in fact, old material. It was written before ARTPOP and Born This Way. Ugh, well that makes me worried again then. The thing about Artpop and BTW is even though she experiments on them, she certainly doesn't ever leave the realm of pop music. If she does abandon pop going forward, she will ruin her career for real. She needs to stop acting like the industry "betrayed" her because her songs aren't instant #1's on every Top 40 station anymore and just focus on making great pop music. She can still certainly do that, she did it several times on Artpop (Applause, DWUW, Gypsy, GUY, etc).
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 15, 2014 20:17:57 GMT -5
Brooklyn Nights is old, but it did almost make Artpop. She cut it last second. So, it has still been in her head recently at least.
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Post by tommymonster44 on Mar 15, 2014 20:23:44 GMT -5
Brooklyn Nights is old, but it did almost make Artpop. She cut it last second. So, it has still been in her head recently at least. There were rumors that she was going to release it on the next release. If those were true, I hope she doesn't decide against it just because it was leaked.
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Post by popbox on Mar 15, 2014 20:27:04 GMT -5
DWUW is proof that all she needs is great pop music to still be relevant on the charts. It had one of the most f**ked up releases of any major artist's single in ages and it still managed to go top 10 on pop with decent longevity. So yeah, all I'm saying is she needs to cool it with this vendetta she seems to be harboring recently about her lack of success on the charts with pop music, and realize that a lot of the Artpop era's problem really was its horrid rollout and execution. Focus on fixing that, not completely changing musical and artistic direction.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 3:14:59 GMT -5
She sounded HELLA old, bitter and out of touch in the John Norris interview. We get it girl, you are deeper than Katy Perry. But let's not forget that you were shitting out factory hits for the Pussycat Dolls and Britney Spears and writing entire albums about your lust for attention. She just seems really salty that most people look at her as a pop star and not a martyr. Like she was so likeable in the beginning of her career when she was making catchy pop music but was almost in on the joke.
She also kind of comes off like she's been in the game for decades. She's burned through a lot of different eras but it's only really been about 5 years in the spotlight and her interviews come across like she's someone who has been making music since the 80s.
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Post by dzjx on Mar 16, 2014 6:13:02 GMT -5
^ I know right. and I didnt get that she said you need to make it about writing songs and make it about the talent... ummm, this coming from the woman who kinda made it popular to do anything but that, with all the crazy outfits and publicity stunts - yeah she might call them art or whatever, but im not buying.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Mar 16, 2014 7:29:19 GMT -5
She sounded HELLA old, bitter and out of touch in the John Norris interview. We get it girl, you are deeper than Katy Perry. But let's not forget that you were shitting out factory hits for the Pussycat Dolls and Britney Spears and writing entire albums about your lust for attention. She just seems really salty that most people look at her as a pop star and not a martyr. Like she was so likeable in the beginning of her career when she was making catchy pop music but was almost in on the joke. She also kind of comes off like she's been in the game for decades. She's burned through a lot of different eras but it's only really been about 5 years in the spotlight and her interviews come across like she's someone who has been making music since the 80s. You hit the proverbial nail on the head. She was fresh and likeable at the beginning of her career because she was smart, edgy and seemed to be in on the joke. She knew how to have fun with her image and was wise enough to not take herself too seriously. Most importantly, the music was top notch. Now, she comes off as a tiresome, pretentious, jaded bore who started to believe her own press. It's really a chore to listen to her talk about her "art". However, the bigger problem is that the calibre of her work has eroded somewhat and so it all seems like a lot of talk about nothing - it's hard to spin Artpop as the reinvention of pop music, because it's not. She needs to shut up for a while, stop pulling ridiculous stunts like that "Swine" performance, and focus on developing quality material. Let the music do the talking.
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Post by get2nomey on Mar 16, 2014 13:42:41 GMT -5
She sounded HELLA old, bitter and out of touch in the John Norris interview. We get it girl, you are deeper than Katy Perry. But let's not forget that you were shitting out factory hits for the Pussycat Dolls and Britney Spears and writing entire albums about your lust for attention. She just seems really salty that most people look at her as a pop star and not a martyr. Like she was so likeable in the beginning of her career when she was making catchy pop music but was almost in on the joke. She also kind of comes off like she's been in the game for decades. She's burned through a lot of different eras but it's only really been about 5 years in the spotlight and her interviews come across like she's someone who has been making music since the 80s. You hit the proverbial nail on the head. She was fresh and likeable at the beginning of her career because she was smart, edgy and seemed to be in on the joke. She knew how to have fun with her image and was wise enough to not take herself too seriously. Most importantly, the music was top notch. Now, she comes off as a tiresome, pretentious, jaded bore who started to believe her own press. It's really a chore to listen to her talk about her "art". However, the bigger problem is that the calibre of her work has eroded somewhat and so it all seems like a lot of talk about nothing - it's hard to spin Artpop as the reinvention of pop music, because it's not. She needs to shut up for a while, stop pulling ridiculous stunts like that "Swine" performance, and focus on developing quality material. Let the music do the talking. I agree with you 100%. If Gaga is to salvage her career she needs to get back to making excellent music. She is certainly capable of more. I actually liked her lead single "Applause". I was surprised that it didn't do better on the charts. I think it was a bit clunky but had good sound. She should go back to basics, don't let the hype consume her, and she'll have a chance to bounce back.
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Post by josh on Mar 16, 2014 14:40:16 GMT -5
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Agent Yoncé
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Mar 16, 2014 15:03:55 GMT -5
Run or Dye 2k14 participant?
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 16, 2014 17:45:42 GMT -5
Are we ever going to get to see the video from Hearst castle? It seems she's moved on to artpop2.
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Post by josh on Mar 16, 2014 18:14:19 GMT -5
Are we ever going to get to see the video from Hearst castle? It seems she's moved on to artpop2. Music video on Saturday. Presumably what was recorded there.
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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 16, 2014 19:45:41 GMT -5
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