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Post by maine on Aug 19, 2014 14:22:18 GMT -5
Heard this on the radio 4 times in my 15 minute ride home from school... It's actually not that bad. The lyrics are super cheesy and the chorus is not that good, but the verses make the song tolerable.
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Post by kanimal on Aug 19, 2014 14:26:34 GMT -5
400-600K for a Taylor Swift album in an era in which she is actually a pop radio superstar is a disaster. LMAO. 400-600k for any artist in any genre in this day and age is not a disaster. Stop being over dramatic. LMAO. If only that's how the business works. Or how any business worked. If you're targeting 1M+, and history shows you absolutely should be (and all indications are that Big Machine is), you don't judge 500K a success because "most people would be lucky to sell that." Sure, you ultimately laugh all the way to the bank, but there are some tears mixed in as well. Taylor Swift isn't most artists. You base your forecasts -- and your assessment of performance -- based on Taylor Swift. And only on Taylor Swift. If you're a fund manager with a reputation for a 40% gain every year, and you gain only 5% one year, you don't say "who cares - most people don't even make money in the stock market." You get fired/people move their money elsewhere. The context of the release matters. The content of the album matters. The artist matters. If it didn't, then screw 400-600K. 150K would be successful, because virtually no one sells that in this marketplace either.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 19, 2014 14:27:32 GMT -5
It won't. You can't brush off your core format and expect people to buy it. It sounds fake. Take a lesson from Usher. I'm not sure why Taylor is artificially killing off her career. This is a self induced mistake to cut out the country that we love in her songs. Taylor's last two albums (Red and the impeccable Speak Now) were almost a side-thought to country radio. While men on the format would score one lame hit after another, Taylor's songs frequently struggled to garner the attention that the biggest star in the world (country OR pop) should've received at the format. While CHR has treated her like the pop princess she is. (Example: Billboard year-end Country charts for 2012 AND 2013 (the entire RED era), Taylor had ONE song in the top 40 on the list. "Ours" clocked in at #37 for 2012) I, however, think she'll be pulling some sort of Shania Twain twist and have a country album of some sorts accompanying 1989. But even without country radio support, Taylor never explicitly distanced herself from the genre. With this release, she is. Even if she hasn't been making straight country music, she has still been seen by the country industry as being one of them, and there is a definite danger is breaking with that without at least throwing them a bone. I agree there will be some kind of country album either announced shortly, or there are songs on this album that will be able to be serviced to country radio.
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Post by Oprah on Aug 19, 2014 14:31:18 GMT -5
This song is complete trash.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Aug 19, 2014 14:35:16 GMT -5
This song is complete trash. Kind of like that reality TV you're obsessed with. What's the point of making this comment? If you're going to criticize at least go into details - like others (the chorus, the music, the break, the horns, the video). Otherwise, it's just weak to make these statements.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Aug 19, 2014 14:40:25 GMT -5
LMAO. 400-600k for any artist in any genre in this day and age is not a disaster. Stop being over dramatic. LMAO. If only that's how the business works. Or how any business worked. If you're targeting 1M+, and history shows you absolutely should be (and all indications are that Big Machine is), you don't judge 500K a success because "most people would be lucky to sell that." Taylor Swift isn't most artists. You base your forecasts -- and your assessment of performance -- based on Taylor Swift. And only on Taylor Swift. If you're a fund manager with a reputation for a 40% gain every year, and you gain only 5% one year, you don't say "who cares - most people don't even make money in the stock market." You get fired/people move their money elsewhere. The context of the release matters. The content of the album matters. The artist matters. If it didn't, then screw 400-600K. 150K would be successful, because virtually no one sells that in this marketplace either. But then there's this little thing called REALITY. Album sales are at an all time low and no artist is at the top commercially forever. To expect any artist to sell over one million out of the gate every time is simply unrealistic and isn't sustainable. She's on her fifth album now, the luster doesn't last forever. And once again, ANYONE opening with 500K in this day and age isn't a "disaster." Could it be viewed as a disappointment? Certainly, but not a disaster or a flop. Taylor's career isn't going to end because her album "only" goes double or triple platinum this time around.
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Post by matty005 on Aug 19, 2014 14:41:13 GMT -5
In regards to Taylor not selling so well because she isn't "country" I could see it a reason or two why this may be true.
The CMA's and ACM's (as well as the smaller award shows) have always had great ratings and Taylor getting to perform usually was a big draw. The exposure she got performing could only help sales. I know in recent years her performance's haven't been too memorable, there is no doubt that it had an impact in sales.
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Post by Clauss on Aug 19, 2014 15:05:04 GMT -5
Lead over #2 0.3511
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Post by dzjx on Aug 19, 2014 15:15:38 GMT -5
I wish people would just shut the f**k up about cultural appropriation, its getting old now. I hate this response more than anything. I understand people don't want a complex, sensitive, negative topic surrounding their fave's first single, but considering all the mundane, useless s**t that is analyzed and discussed in every CHR thread (e.g., popularity bars), the grander and important discussion of cultural appropriation--even when some feel it is mishandled or used too broadly--should never be considered problematic or "old" (Jesus wtf) in its own right. ETA: If you don't think it applies, explain why. But trying to shut it down by shutting it up is a really ugly look. The reason I said its getting old is because whenever a singer does something that looks like it is not exactly their culture, everyone goes ''OMG cultural appropriation!!'' and yes it is very boring now to hear over and over, over nothing, its completely mindless and stupid, and seems to be a big trend for people to just point out any chance they get without backing it up, which is exactly what the first post did.
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 19, 2014 15:18:08 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about this. It's catchy, but really basic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 15:47:54 GMT -5
Taylor only sent one single to Country during the "Red," era Uh, wrong. She sent 3 singles to country radio during the Red era: the country edit of "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" debuted and peaked at #13 (Clear Channel deal), but they didn't pull the plug on it for about 2 months. Then of course came "Begin Again", followed by "Red". BA peaked at #3 on Billboard Country Airplay and #1 on Mediabase, and "Red" peaked at #7 on Billboard Country Airplay and #5 on Mediabase. Anyway...I think SIO can do 600k, and I think the album can do 1 million. But if not, so what? If the album opened with 500-600k that would probably be disappointing as I'm sure that's less than most are expecting, but is that a disaster? No. There will come a day when Taylor can't sell a million albums in one week. One day it'll be 800k, then for the next album it might be 500k, etc. Like some have said, everybody has that "peak" moment. Although I suppose there will always be people saying what Taylor could have or should have done differently if this 'era' isn't quite as massive as her last couple of albums.
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Post by trashynavy on Aug 19, 2014 15:49:38 GMT -5
fucking love this song! so catchy
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Post by M1tchD on Aug 19, 2014 16:07:46 GMT -5
Played this for my mom in the car and she didn't like it. That surprised me considering she really likes most pop music today, and all of Taylor's past music.
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Aug 19, 2014 16:10:10 GMT -5
Played this for my mom in the car and she didn't like it. That surprised me considering she really likes most pop music today, and all of Taylor's past music. It could always grow on her :)
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 19, 2014 16:19:21 GMT -5
Played this for my mom in the car and she didn't like it. That surprised me considering she really likes most pop music today, and all of Taylor's past music. It could always grow on her :) When it hits #1 she'll like it.
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Post by otternobetter87 on Aug 19, 2014 16:20:19 GMT -5
this is gonna be on repeat for a while... i love it!
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Post by Taylor. on Aug 19, 2014 16:21:58 GMT -5
I convinced the social media team at work to post the video with a link to a book about her we sell as reason why. where's my stan of the year award tbqh.
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Post by divasummer on Aug 19, 2014 16:24:11 GMT -5
I'm not a big Taylor fan at all but I do buy some of her singles. In my opinion this is the most pop she has sounded so far. I can't really see any of her more country fans caring for this. Again I'm not a huge Taylor fan but I thought a lot of her appeal was because she did appeal to both Country and Pop fans. However making an announcement about this being just a pop album may hurt her sales some. Plus I think the sound of this song sounds a little more juvenile that her past singles. I do like it, it is catchy and I disagree with the poster who said if this was by anyone else it wouldn't do well. I think it would do very well by another artist. It reminds me of different songs by different artists that were also very popular. I doubt it would take off as quickly but I do think it would do just fine.
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Post by Envoirment on Aug 19, 2014 16:50:37 GMT -5
I honestly don't get why people are making a fuss over the sales. She's essentially in the top league in terms of albums + singles and has huge selling power. Whatever the result, we all know the numbers will be huge. I wish my fav was able to sell 10% of what Taylor sells.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 19, 2014 17:08:42 GMT -5
Is it weird to anybody else that the album pre-order isn't in the Top 150 while Cheek to Cheek is #6? The label was probably withholding it from charting.. It's #1 now, and probably will be for a long time
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Post by Kurt on Aug 19, 2014 17:18:03 GMT -5
Might be a few more left, but right now it's at 104 adds for the week.
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Post by slayZ on Aug 19, 2014 17:18:25 GMT -5
the "fake it baby fakeeee" close to the end is seriously so :'(
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Post by Tea-why on Aug 19, 2014 17:20:07 GMT -5
Hmmm not sure I like this...
*listens to "I Knew You Were Trouble"*
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 17:21:04 GMT -5
From Billboard.com: As expected, Taylor Swift soared onto radio airwaves with her highly anticipated new single "Shake It Off." Swift released the high-energy, anti-haters pop anthem Tuesday during her Yahoo! live stream shortly after 5 p.m. ET. The song quickly tallied 1,139 first-day plays on 229 stations that report to the Billboard Hot 100's radio airplay panel, according to Nielsen BDS. The plays translated to nearly 9 million in first-day all-format radio audience. To read the full article: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6221906/taylor-swift-radio-shake-it-off
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 19, 2014 17:21:31 GMT -5
Is it weird to anybody else that the album pre-order isn't in the Top 150 while Cheek to Cheek is #6? The label was probably withholding it from charting.. It's #1 now, and probably will be for a long time I noticed that, it was either some algorithm issue or they intentionally kept it off the chart (but I'm not sure why they would do that).
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Post by Clauss on Aug 19, 2014 17:28:44 GMT -5
From Billboard.com: As expected, Taylor Swift soared onto radio airwaves with her highly anticipated new single "Shake It Off." Swift released the high-energy, anti-haters pop anthem Tuesday during her Yahoo! live stream shortly after 5 p.m. ET. The song quickly tallied 1,139 first-day plays on 229 stations that report to the Billboard Hot 100's radio airplay panel, according to Nielsen BDS. The plays translated to nearly 9 million in first-day all-format radio audience. To read the full article: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6221906/taylor-swift-radio-shake-it-offFrom the same article: "Despite its push to pop formats, "Shake" dents the building Country Airplay chart at No. 49."
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Post by Rumors on Aug 19, 2014 17:31:57 GMT -5
If it's huge they'll build on it with an even bigger Pop album thereafter. If it aint, the "Country album" will be out asap. Bingo! LOL! This whole thing is actually funny. I'm not a Taylor fan but I did find myself surprised to read about her "announcement" when I turned on the internet tonight after being without it for a few days. Taylor's team certainly knows how to stir the pot and create interest for her new album. The question remains how much will the pop only crowd still be talking about the album next year. She better have some better pop songs than this...which is one of her weakest releases to date.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 19, 2014 17:33:48 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio.
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Aug 19, 2014 17:34:26 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. This is great news!!!
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Post by Clauss on Aug 19, 2014 17:37:54 GMT -5
That means she can debut #1 next week?
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