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Post by irice22 on Aug 19, 2014 17:40:35 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. I thought that happened with Janet Jackson's "All For You."
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Post by Hussy on Aug 19, 2014 17:43:57 GMT -5
This song is complete trash. Kind of like that reality TV you're obsessed with. What's the point of making this comment? If you're going to criticize at least go into details - like others (the chorus, the music, the break, the horns, the video). Otherwise, it's just weak to make these statements. the point of this comment is to give his HONEST opinion about the song which is very bad :)
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Post by kanimal on Aug 19, 2014 17:48:57 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. I feel like everything Hits Daily Double writes regarding radio updates needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Particularly this whole "closed out" notion. I've seen MULTIPLE instances of them saying "Song XX closes out this week with 5 adds" yet then see that same song get several adds the following week (Stolen Dance is a recent example). It looks like Mediabase is final with 104 adds, which is not the whole panel. I can almost promise you it will appear on next week's add board.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 19, 2014 17:53:34 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. I feel like everything Hits Daily Double writes regarding radio updates needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Particularly this whole "closed out" notion. I've seen MULTIPLE instances of them saying "Song XX closes out this week with 5 adds" yet then see that same song get several adds the following week (Stolen Dance is a recent example). It looks like Mediabase is final with 104 adds, which is not the whole panel. I can almost promise you it will appear on next week's add board. Haha, yeah, I feel like HITS is kind of a shaky source with those kind of things (among others - I know you've noticed and mentioned the weird discrepancies in their radio add reports vs. the actual Mediabase data before as well). It's weird, too, because they even list live Add Board data on their site under their Media section. Bizarre.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Aug 19, 2014 18:04:25 GMT -5
Kind of like that reality TV you're obsessed with. What's the point of making this comment? If you're going to criticize at least go into details - like others (the chorus, the music, the break, the horns, the video). Otherwise, it's just weak to make these statements. the point of this comment is to give his HONEST opinion about the song which is very bad :) No. That comment was made to incite - with no specifics about what that poster dislikes (plus the vast majority of that posters comments this month are about Big Brother and not music), which furthers my reasons for calling someone out. I'm not completely sold on SIO yet - I wish the beat was a bit harder and I think the last minute kind of drags a bit, but as I said in my first comment after I heard from it - I think it's more a grower, which I prefer.
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Post by Hussy on Aug 19, 2014 18:11:56 GMT -5
the point of this comment is to give his HONEST opinion about the song which is very bad :) No. That comment was made to incite - with no specifics about what that poster dislikes (plus the vast majority of that posters comments this month are about Big Brother and not music), which furthers my reasons for calling someone out. I'm not completely sold on SIO yet - I wish the beat was a bit harder and I think the last minute kind of drags a bit, but as I said in my first comment after I heard from it - I think it's more a grower, which I prefer. he can call it whatever he wants bad, trash, awful, disgusting ....
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Post by Living Legend on Aug 19, 2014 18:47:08 GMT -5
It's crazy that this could actually debut in the Top 40 of country radio. It shows how hungry that format is for her and she really needs to give them something whether it be a country mix or a different country friendly song.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 19, 2014 18:47:35 GMT -5
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Post by Ed The Pacifist! on Aug 19, 2014 19:00:40 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. Could you or someone else explain what this statement means? (I'm sorry if I seem dumb at this point but I am new to this site and I don't know what this statement means.)
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 19, 2014 19:12:09 GMT -5
Thank god I am not a professional reviewer. I don't particularly care for the notion of viewing everything through an analytical lense and breaking it apart piece by piece. Sometimes it is nice just to take things at face value and for what it is. Take "Shake It Off" for example, which is supposed to be simple and kitschy and fun, but there will be those who use it as a platform to dwelve into her character and life choices. It can get a bit silly. Lol It's a simple pop song. Enjoy it or hate it. Thankfully not everyone has that GaGa mentality when it comes to pop music. I mean, I respect those who can look at things from an intellectual perspective, but sometimes it is nice to just put the keyboard down and not take everything so seriously.
And yes I am well aware this is a forum for discussion and interpretation, but it can still be a bit much at times. Haha
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Post by irice22 on Aug 19, 2014 19:14:36 GMT -5
Sometimes it is nice just to take things at face value and for what it is. This is what critics do. It's the music snobs you might be referring to.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 19, 2014 19:16:31 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. Could you or someone else explain what this statement means? (I'm sorry if I seem dumb at this point but I am new to this site and I don't know what this statement means.) No problem! As mentioned above, it's probably not really true, but I'll go into detail (apologies if you already knew any of this or it's really obvious): - Mediabase's pop panel is a group of roughly 170 stations in markets across the country. The songs played on the stations in this panel are tracked on the Mediabase pop chart stickied at the top of this forum. - Each week, stations "add" new music to their rotation. This can be done manually by a station's program director or automatically if a song has received at least seven plays in a week (Sunday through Saturday). For pop radio, adds for the week are reported by 6:00pm Eastern on Tuesdays. (This is also where "going for adds"/"impacting" statements come from - it's a concentrated effort to get stations to add a single in large numbers during the same week in order for a larger bow on the chart.) - Ordinarily, "closing the panel" would indicate a song that has been officially added by every station on the pop panel. However, in this case, HITS may be stating that the song has just been played on every station thus far. (Also, it's possible that for the other ~65 stations that didn't add "Shake It Off" this week, they've all played it enough since yesterday's premiere that it'll be registered as an auto-add for all of them next week.) - Also, as suggested above, Janet Jackson's "All For You" was added at every pop, rhythmic, and urban station on the R&R panel in its first week in 2001: www.mtv.com/news/1441454/janet-jackson-single-breaks-radio-chart-records/ (R&R and Mediabase parted ways in 2006, leading to the Mediabase chart and panel that is now used.) Hope that makes sense!
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Post by M1tchD on Aug 19, 2014 19:18:50 GMT -5
I've heard this on the radio 4 times today in less than 2 hours. This is quickly becoming a monster!
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Post by Clauss on Aug 19, 2014 19:19:27 GMT -5
Taylor Swift - Shake It Off 1.0000 Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass 0.3365
The lead is growing as the two songs are more popular than 2 hours before
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Post by countrygirl918 on Aug 19, 2014 19:19:32 GMT -5
I'm quite surprised to see so many comments about how Taylor dropping country will significantly lower her sales. I guess for myself, I don't see the genre switch having much if any effect. I follow the country genre pretty closely, and I haven't really associated Taylor with the genre much for at least the last two years (particularly with the releases of "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together," "I Knew You Were Trouble" and "22" off of Red). So the official transition to pop doesn't shock me in the slightest - in fact, it makes perfect sense to me. It was clear that pop is the direction Taylor wanted to move towards, since her promotion of Red focused almost entirely on pop. Her receiving the Pinnacle Award at last year's CMAs and performing "All Too Well" at the Grammys seemed a bit like her way of saying goodbye to the country genre.
As for "Shake It Off," while it's far from a lyrical masterpiece, it's a lot of fun, has a cute message and is super, super catchy. For me, it's been a grower too - I've enjoyed it more and more with each listen. I think the cultural appropriation reactions to the music video are quite a bit of a stretch. And since one of the loudest voices of this reaction fully admitted he hadn't even watched the video, I think that says it all.
It'll be interesting to see what Taylor has to offer with the rest of the album, and if her lyrics will still shine through despite more collaborations with Max Martin and Shellback.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 19, 2014 19:19:49 GMT -5
Sometimes it is nice just to take things at face value and for what it is. This is what critics do. It's the music snobs you might be referring to. I realize this is what critics do. I am actually referring to both. Imo there is a difference between legitimate/good critiquing and then taking something, shattering it into a million pieces, analyzing every single edge and inch, and and pulling conclusions and parallels out of (for a lack of a better term) your a**. But, to each his own. I'm just not a fan of OVERanalyzing.
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Post by Oprah on Aug 19, 2014 19:21:01 GMT -5
This song is complete trash. Kind of like that reality TV you're obsessed with. What's the point of making this comment? If you're going to criticize at least go into details - like others (the chorus, the music, the break, the horns, the video). Otherwise, it's just weak to make these statements. Well, if you insist, everything from the chorus to the verses to the video (especially the video) is awful. The least I could say for Taylor Swift is that, with the exception of some big duds like Today Was A Fairytale, most of her singles have at least been catchy and enjoyable enough to see why they take off; this is garbage. It's the moment she jumped the shark. Also, the whole point of reality tv is that it's mindless trash. It's at best an interesting reflection of the most damming parts of American pop culture and at worst something to laugh at in the background. Comparing it to this song just reflects what a mess this is. Oh, and I don't know what your obsession is with my posting activity, but I will continue to post in whatever thread & section I please and that does not strip me of the right to comment on new music. tvym & please take that gestapo routine somewhere else.
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Post by Ed The Pacifist! on Aug 19, 2014 19:22:03 GMT -5
Thanks Kurt =]
Wow, Its official Radio is freakin CRAZY :o
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 19:30:07 GMT -5
I REALLY hope Country radio doesn't touch this.
It's catchy, but other than that I find it bland and lacking in terms of charm.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 19, 2014 19:34:19 GMT -5
I REALLY hope Country radio doesn't touch this. bland and lacking in terms of charm. Would fit right into country programmer's playlists then. <3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 19:57:29 GMT -5
I REALLY hope Country radio doesn't touch this. bland and lacking in terms of charm. Would fit right into country programmer's playlists then. <3 I hate Country radio now, and I love Country music. This would just add salt to a gaping wound for me. :'( If she has another song as flawless as ATW, though, I'll be 100% in her corner.
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 19, 2014 20:02:08 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. If this is actually true, that's astounding. I'm curious how high this can get here. Her last lead single seemed destined to top the CHR chart, but it ended up sputtering out in the final lap.
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Aug 19, 2014 21:26:52 GMT -5
Without access to Mediabase, I'm not sure of their basis for saying so - spins or actual un/reported adds - but HITS is reporting that it's closed the entire pop panel in its first week, which has never before occurred on pop radio. I thought that happened with Janet Jackson's "All For You." Yes, "All For You" fot added by every pop, rhythmic and urban station upon its impacting week.
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Post by Clauss on Aug 19, 2014 21:29:38 GMT -5
NOOOOO RED UPDATE :(
Lead is a little smaller #2 0.3413
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 19, 2014 22:30:57 GMT -5
Yah, 104 adds at mainstream top 40- not quite the whole pop panel, but a great showing.
I only listened to the song once, and it didn't click with me. Maybe on additional listens.
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Post by CammyCan on Aug 20, 2014 0:25:22 GMT -5
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 20, 2014 0:33:37 GMT -5
Should we have expected anything less at this point? Hahaha.
I was wondering if this could become her first #1 in the UK, but it looks like she hasn't been able to topple Guetta (understandably since his hit history there is much bigger than hers). I wonder if this can eventually make it or if she can get one from this project.
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Post by CammyCan on Aug 20, 2014 0:58:14 GMT -5
Should we have expected anything less at this point? Hahaha. I was wondering if this could become her first #1 in the UK, but it looks like she hasn't been able to topple Guetta (understandably since his hit history there is much bigger than hers). I wonder if this can eventually make it or if she can get one from this project. So apparently it's still gaining on Guetta in the UK and only 7% away? I think it might make it to #1 on iTunes over there, but won't hit #1 on the official chart. Hopefully it hits #1 eventually, but it's fine if it doesn't. We Are Never... and Trouble only made it to #3 and #2 but sold 650k and 750k respectively.
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Post by slayZ on Aug 20, 2014 3:01:30 GMT -5
You know, I don't care what anyone says, Max Martin really does bring out the best in Taylor's vocals. She sounds different here, and on 22, and IKYWT and WANEGBT than on every other song she's recorded. The vocals are so strong and she's hitting notes she hasn't before, whether it's by belting, or the "fake it baby fakeee" which I don't think she's ever done such a low note before in studio. He really knows how to work with her voice. So excited to hear what they brought to the table this time, not just sonically but also vocally.
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Post by jrekk on Aug 20, 2014 3:40:43 GMT -5
This song is the JAM! Nothing but catchiness all around from the repititive chorus to the smooth flowing verses with perfect timed horns! Easily a smash multi week #1 and country will still play this like crazy probably top ten there when it's all said and done. Welcome back T Swift! :)
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