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Post by Dammn Baby on Jan 1, 2018 0:28:52 GMT -5
This is a regurgitation of everything we've seen for the past few years. For Work Bitch, the choreography was absolutely terrible - she walked around and flipped her hair and waved her arms and did little kicks for 75% of the runtime. There was nothing really complex or hard-hitting for what is perhaps her hardest hitting song. She looked on point but we've seen her wear that Agent Provocateur outfit a million times now (I swear she has it in every pantone and with varying motifs on the ass). There was nothing fresh or interesting here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 0:30:33 GMT -5
She served looks tonight, performances were fine.
I really need her to pull off some better choreo though, but I'm happy that she isn't as lifeless as when she was during the start of her doing these same choreos.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 0:31:48 GMT -5
This is exactly what anyone should have expected from her in 2018, so yeah. It wasn't any worse than any other performer standing in front of a mic droning on about their self-esteem issues. The real winner here is her team for bothering to record a proper back track even if the vocal processing is more obvious on that than the actual song (lmfaoooo). Gold star to the cameraman for panning out during the low points of the choreo. Yes but delusion is not part of it. You seem like a very unhappy person and I'm starting to wonder if your constant negativity is a cry for help. |
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 1, 2018 1:01:46 GMT -5
Work bitch was wonderful. Some scenes of felt like I was watching extra cuts of the music video. Toxic on the other hand, the whole tree scene was awkward on TV being up close. Seeing the show in person I can understand doing those exaggerative movies because she’s high up and away. But on TV it looks stupid. Should have aired Gimme More maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 1:23:59 GMT -5
She looked INCREDIBLE and WB was a really good performance. The Toxic choreography is abysmal and whoever allowed that performance to be televised should be shot.
All in all I think this was a big win for her! She’s come a LONG way since 2007when all people could say was that she’s crazy — at least everyone is saying she’s got again! Lol
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Post by johnm1120 on Jan 1, 2018 1:33:48 GMT -5
Toxic was a mess. Plain and simple.
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Post by spaceykSVP1999 on Jan 1, 2018 1:55:24 GMT -5
Does anyone outside of the #instagay community even like "Work Bitch"? Thankfully "Toxic" followed, a much better choice!
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Post by think pink. on Jan 1, 2018 2:59:42 GMT -5
Does anyone outside of the #instagay community even like "Work Bitch"? Excuse you  |
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jan 1, 2018 3:40:45 GMT -5
The spastic hand movements when she is in the tree during Toxic were...weird, to put it nicely. I think her team needs to reassess how they want her to be viewed from a choreography stand point.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 1, 2018 10:30:58 GMT -5
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Post by Crimsonio on Jan 1, 2018 14:00:31 GMT -5
Is there any source for this JT and Britney collab?
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Jan 1, 2018 14:57:21 GMT -5
Work bitch was great. I will deny the existence of The first half of Toxic, the last half was good.
She looks great and her body is fantastic
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 1, 2018 15:15:26 GMT -5
I feel like we were all watching different performances? She *never* wins with people. She puts on another performance where she looks amazing, she looks into it, she's energetic, but now instead of 'she looks dead in the eyes', it's 'she's too spastic' or 'she's not offering anything new' (what new did you want? these are the Vegas performances that have been going on for years that 99% of the general public has not seen. She jumped off a god damn tree in it, what else did you want her to do?)
Meanwhile, she executed the WB choreo great, actually looked and felt like *Britney Spears* was up there, and the Toxic BBMA choreo in addition to being thrown from side to side and then whipping her hair on the ground was cool.
Like what? y'all were really trying to come in here and call this a mess?
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 1, 2018 15:17:41 GMT -5
This is a regurgitation of everything we've seen for the past few years. For Work Bitch, the choreography was absolutely terrible - she walked around and flipped her hair and waved her arms and did little kicks for 75% of the runtime. There was nothing really complex or hard-hitting for what is perhaps her hardest hitting song. She looked on point but we've seen her wear that Agent Provocateur outfit a million times now (I swear she has it in every pantone and with varying motifs on the ass). There was nothing fresh or interesting here. She has multiple choreography points in WB, so you're really being overdramatic. And again, this was simply a performance for NYE from Vegas of two of her classics. I'm not sure what needed to be "fresh" here. |
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 1, 2018 15:18:24 GMT -5
The editing was superb. The crowd shots, shots of the stage, etc were all perfect. |
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jan 1, 2018 16:42:32 GMT -5
This is a regurgitation of everything we've seen for the past few years. For Work Bitch, the choreography was absolutely terrible - she walked around and flipped her hair and waved her arms and did little kicks for 75% of the runtime. There was nothing really complex or hard-hitting for what is perhaps her hardest hitting song. She looked on point but we've seen her wear that Agent Provocateur outfit a million times now (I swear she has it in every pantone and with varying motifs on the ass). There was nothing fresh or interesting here. She has multiple choreography points in WB, so you're really being overdramatic. Not really. She's been performing in Piece of Me for the past four years, and yet half the time she literally just stands there and waves and points her hands and looks stiff as hell. Granted, the WB choreography itself is completely lacking and at least she's improved from the Femme Fatale era. It's a televised performance on NYE as she prepares to launch a world tour for 2018 - I would argue that everything should have been fresh. |
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 1, 2018 17:27:01 GMT -5
She has multiple choreography points in WB, so you're really being overdramatic. Not really. She's been performing in Piece of Me for the past four years, and yet half the time she literally just stands there and waves and points her hands and looks stiff as hell. Granted, the WB choreography itself is completely lacking and at least she's improved from the Femme Fatale era. It's a televised performance on NYE as she prepares to launch a world tour for 2018 - I would argue that everything should have been fresh. A) theres no confirmation shes doing a world tour B) it IS fresh to the general public. 99% of them have not seen her Vegas show. and might i add that the editing really amped up the production value of the show |
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 1, 2018 17:27:17 GMT -5
Omg... but SO STIFF THOUGH~~~~  |
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Post by surfy on Jan 1, 2018 17:31:53 GMT -5
My sister thought that she did pretty good and she hasn't seen Britney live since the 2007 era incidents (she doesn't watch award shows like I do)
I think she did pretty great, I just wish she wouldn't have done those spastic movements with her hands - it was distracting. But it looked like she was having fun and it seemed like a great time, so the performances were successful IMO!
Now I need a new era from this bitch, GLORY was one of my favorites from 2016!
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jan 1, 2018 19:32:05 GMT -5
Not really. She's been performing in Piece of Me for the past four years, and yet half the time she literally just stands there and waves and points her hands and looks stiff as hell. Granted, the WB choreography itself is completely lacking and at least she's improved from the Femme Fatale era. It's a televised performance on NYE as she prepares to launch a world tour for 2018 - I would argue that everything should have been fresh. A) theres no confirmation shes doing a world tour B) it IS fresh to the general public. 99% of them have not seen her Vegas show. and might i add that the editing really amped up the production value of the show Agree to disagree.  |
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Post by thezatch on Jan 1, 2018 21:29:55 GMT -5
I feel like we were all watching different performances? She *never* wins with people. She puts on another performance where she looks amazing, she looks into it, she's energetic, but now instead of 'she looks dead in the eyes', it's 'she's too spastic' or 'she's not offering anything new' (what new did you want? these are the Vegas performances that have been going on for years that 99% of the general public has not seen. She jumped off a god damn tree in it, what else did you want her to do?) Meanwhile, she executed the WB choreo great, actually looked and felt like *Britney Spears* was up there, and the Toxic BBMA choreo in addition to being thrown from side to side and then whipping her hair on the ground was cool. Like what? y'all were really trying to come in here and call this a mess? I agree 100%. She probably moved the most on stage out of EVERY other performer on the show last night, with the exception of the BTS kids, and she's getting called "stiff", or she didn't come up with anything "new and fresh". None of her newer material would have worked in the performance spots she was in during the show. Would you all want Kneetap-ney to make a return during a performance of "Make Me"? No thanks. Or the "lemme lay down and sleep" floor pats during "Slumber Party"? Could any of her other big hits worked instead of "Toxic"? Possibly, but "Toxic" is one of the biggest songs in her catalog and it also has the biggest set during her show so why not show it off? As a stan, I would have preferred a Blackout medley with "GM", "POM" and "BTI" instead of "Toxic" to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the album. The original choreography from POM 1.0 would have SLAYED last night.   Also, the amount of people actively watching the show is small compared to those who just have it on as background noise at a NYE party so what would be the point of doing a brand new, lavish production for 8 minutes of airtime during a 5+ hour telecast that no one is really paying attention to anyway? |
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Jan 1, 2018 22:35:19 GMT -5
Omg... but SO STIFF THOUGH~~~~ She killed WB performance. Toxic were kinda awkward at the beginning, and thats what haters are focusing on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 0:16:39 GMT -5
Hm.
I’m just going to say that looking good/into it and delivering a good performance are two completely different things and leave it at that. Some replies in here are aggressively negative, yes, but these performances are not above criticism.
As far as those gifs go, in the politest way possible, those aren’t really helping the case nor would .5 seconds of a performance help it in the first place.
She looks good, she looks happy, and it was at least entertaining. As a stan that’s all I can ask for to keep me happy.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 2, 2018 3:06:32 GMT -5
Omg... but SO STIFF THOUGH~~~~ I don't know if this was sarcasm or not, but she legit is stiff in this gif. Anyway, I've only seen clips of the performance but it looked horrible. The beginning of Toxic especially. I don't care if she does the same choreography from vegas, but did they even tell her that this performance would be televised? I've seen her do better in Vegas before. She looked great though at least! Which is important, because 70% of people will call her performance great if she looks good, even if her actual performance is worse than the 2007 VMAs. How is she “stiff”? The professional dancer behind her is “stiff” in this gif. |
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jan 2, 2018 7:21:15 GMT -5
Clearly the block function doesn’t work on mobile devices.  |
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 2, 2018 8:40:34 GMT -5
How is she “stiff”? The professional dancer behind her is “stiff” in this gif. Her entire body, including her neck, stays straight for the entire gif. She literally just lifts her arms to flip her hair, while not moving anything else. The professional dancer is waiting for his turn. He’s not doing choreography in the gif  Maybe because's that part of it? So now because she doesn't move a specific body part, she's stiff? People are honestly just looking for reasons to say shit about her performances at this point. The point is, she could kill it, and people would still say oh well this part was stiff, this part was not good. |
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 2, 2018 8:41:31 GMT -5
A) theres no confirmation shes doing a world tour B) it IS fresh to the general public. 99% of them have not seen her Vegas show. and might i add that the editing really amped up the production value of the show Agree to disagree. there's nothing to disagree with. it's a fact that we don't know if she's doing a world tour, and it's a fact that most people who watched had never even seen a clip from her Vegas show, so it IS fresh to them. |
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 2, 2018 8:43:15 GMT -5
Hm. I’m just going to say that looking good/into it and delivering a good performance are two completely different things and leave it at that. Some replies in here are aggressively negative, yes, but these performances are not above criticism. As far as those gifs go, in the politest way possible, those aren’t really helping the case nor would .5 seconds of a performance help it in the first place. She looks good, she looks happy, and it was at least entertaining. As a stan that’s all I can ask for to keep me happy. My point is that even in that gif, she is showing attitude and looks INTO the performance, which was a constant criticism years ago that she was "dead in the eyes". She's not above criticism but with Britney, people are always looking to nitpick her performances in every single manner. |
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jan 2, 2018 9:47:53 GMT -5
Maybe because's that part of it? So now because she doesn't move a specific body part, she's stiff? People are honestly just looking for reasons to say s**t about her performances at this point. The point is, she could kill it, and people would still say oh well this part was stiff, this part was not good. BYE I’m a life long Britney stan, I can call her performance s**t if I want to. Look at her performances of Slave 4 U from 2001 and look at them from the 2016 BBMAs and you’ll understand what the word “stiff” means. In that case every Britney performance you will ever see from here on out, as well as every performance from every other artist, will be “stiff.” Slave in 2001...what a completely ridiculous standard. |
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Post by Keelzit on Jan 2, 2018 10:58:25 GMT -5
The issue is that the choreography or, rather, the movements she does when she's on her own without the dancers, simply suck. She literally serves hand movements and seizures which was cute for 2011 Britney but she's come a long way since then. I don't know if the problem is her not realising that she limits her own potential by doing that or if that's really all she has to offer but it's clear that she can do way more than that.
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