Britney Spears: Artist Discussion

[The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷]

This is a tough one... you know “hurt people hurt people”.

Britney is clearly in a world of pain right now unpacking all of her trauma from 13+ years of abuse and silence, but I feel like this isn't the way to work through it, though.

I think that, at this stage, a social media manager would be great for her just to give everything a once over, but considering everyone she knows has hurt her deeply, it's hard to know if she trust anyone anymore to do that job without her feeling like she's being silenced and misunderstood.

What's really interesting is that she comes across a lot better in the audio clips she shares than she does in writing...

[schnetzka]

Yeah there is a big difference in her audio clips and the written captions. Her comments toward Christina were highly unnecessary and while I love that Britney is now able to freely speak her mind, she needs to take the high road instead of trying to get back at everyone.

[Choco]

Let's be honest if Xtina didn't have likability issues herself Britney would be getting dragged. If she said the same about Lizzo she would be getting dragged to hell and back.

[Daenerys]

Sept 10, 2022 12:21:16 GMT -5 slw84 said:

It always amazes me how she really only had top 40 pop and moderate rhythmic play and yet outsold her peers with ease while many had top 40, rhythmic, AC/hot AC, urban/urban ac for radio promotion.

Agree.  I wonder what Britney could have done with a label that could have backed and promoted her with real resources. It always felt to me like Jive lucked out and didn't really know what they had in Britney. Where as I think RCA, Sony, Columbia, and others labels seemed to invest heavily in their artists (Jessica, Christina, Beyonce, Janet, Micheal, Whitney, Mariah, etc.). 

Jive as it existed ended up having three of the biggest music acts of the time period at the same time. Which meant all three weren't getting everything they needed to be as successful as they could have been in terms of a big record label machine being behind them full force at once. I think Britney could have had her songs peak 20 positions higher, and sold more with a stronger label. 

Re: Instagram posts. I'm not surprised that Britney's been mentioning Christina, for probably as long as her career has been active it wouldn't surprise me if she was constantly being put down compared to others. Back in 2001, Britney was annoyed with being compared to Avril and it's clear that she likely holds some resentment towards Christina based on the way she behaved during the 2003 VMA's and after. The 2003 Blender interview comes to mind. She clearly has body image issues and problems with her weight, which comes from her time under her father and her team using her weight against her to push her to perform or work out more. She will probably always have those issues as they were the excuse used by her abusers to deprive her of food and rest. It's unfortunate that it's expressed this way, but everything she is talking about now, likely comes from that insecure and poor treatment she experienced to look her best during the moneymaking business periods of the conservatorship .

[The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷]

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Sept 13, 2022 12:42:41 GMT -5 Choco said:

Britney need to let the Xtina hate go. Unless we're missing part of the story.

The missing piece is that Brit hates fat people.

[Ling-Ling]

Sept 13, 2022 15:09:56 GMT -5 Codex said:

“I was not being critical of Christina’s body, it is what it is” LMAOOOO

When I tell you I CHOKED

[wavey.]

Sept 13, 2022 15:09:56 GMT -5 Codex said:

“I was not being critical of Christina’s body, it is what it is” LMAOOOO

Skskskskssk Brit killin me.

[Relaxing Cup]

Sept 13, 2022 13:58:27 GMT -5 Choco said:

Let's be honest if Xtina didn't have likability issues herself Britney would be getting dragged. If she said the same about Lizzo she would be getting dragged to hell and back.

Because Lizzo is Black

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Sept 13, 2022 15:09:56 GMT -5 Codex said:

“I was not being critical of Christina’s body of work, it is what it is” LMAOOOO

Yes Britney! Live for her

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Sept 13, 2022 13:58:27 GMT -5 Choco said:

Let's be honest if Xtina didn't have likability issues herself Britney would be getting dragged. If she said the same about Lizzo she would be getting dragged to hell and back.

But Lizzo is actually fat, factually large. Christina isn't fat so it comes across as shade. Calling a obese woman obese would be bullying (and no matter size Lizzo is also actually beautiful and talented)


The real shade is what she said after

Her suggesting Christina looked skinny by using fat dancers had me howling at work.

[Koochie]

Lmao people thinking Britney is fat shaming is a riot. She knows what it’s like to be on that end of the stick, and it was probably backhanded, but not for the reasons people think it is. That people are taking it personally says a lot more about how society has negatively impacted the self esteem of people who are heavier… and a hit dog will bark but, ya know? Anyway, she’s saying Christina is vain.

Thing is these women have a lot of history and Britney is the one who buried the hatchet and even gave Christina grace time and again while she kept fighting off the comparisons that Britney never had to, but Christina wasn’t nearly as kind about it. That Britney is the one talking about her now says more about Christina than it does Britney. As outspoken as she is, it takes a very… unique person for Britney Spears of all people to feel a type of way.

[Push The Button]

LOL GIRL you’ve never been to a Christina concert! 😂 Whatttt is going on

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Where the heck is Sam? Brit is unraveling. She needs help. This ain't gonna end well.

[PerPlexied]

Sept 14, 2022 9:13:48 GMT -5 @kfercat said:

Where the heck is Sam? Brit is unraveling. She needs help. This ain't gonna end well.

Draining her bank accounts.

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Sept 14, 2022 9:13:48 GMT -5 @kfercat said:

Where the heck is Sam? Brit is unraveling. She needs help. This ain't gonna end well.

I'm kinda worried about her too. Between saying that she cries herself to sleep every night, will be traumatized for life, and now she can't see her kids -- it's all a lot.

The video she posted of her crying while she danced made me super emo, lol. She's got so, so, so much to release -- get it out Brit! Preferably in album format ;)

[Koochie]

Y’all, relax.

First of all, “where is Sam?” is weird. Dude’s not her legal guardian. Second, anyone who has taken, like, any entry-level Psych course (or has common sense) can tell that this woman has PTSD out the ass. Probably more if we’re being totally honest, not that it’s anyone’s business, but the expectation that she should always practice healthy coping mechanisms less than a year into her freedom, even with therapy, after all she went through, is not realistic. I’m sure this is all coming from a place of concern but give her some room to f**k up a little? That’s not even to pardon her for some of her weirder s**t, but seeing people clench their holes over her maybe implying Christina Aguilera is fat (which is true!) instead of, like, the whole thing with her kids is giving me a mild stroke.

I do agree with what was said last page though: her antics aren’t going to help her, but just like with the C-ship I’m getting trauma porn enthusiast vibes from a lot of people here and it’s not cute.

Sept 14, 2022 9:42:52 GMT -5 PerPlexied said:

Sept 14, 2022 9:13:48 GMT -5 @kfercat said:

Where the heck is Sam? Brit is unraveling. She needs help. This ain't gonna end well.

Draining her bank accounts.

he has his own money lol

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^ I don't think it's wrong to worry. I understand she's got tons of trauma, that's why I'm worried -- I don't want her to do anything to herself she'd regret. I don't mind her lashing out, especially if she's going to apologize. I only included the "where is Sam" bc I hate the thought of her being alone right now. I hope she has some great people around her making sure she's ok.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Sept 13, 2022 13:56:39 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

Yeah there is a big difference in her audio clips and the written captions. Her comments toward Christina were highly unnecessary and while I love that Britney is now able to freely speak her mind, she needs to take the high road instead of trying to get back at everyone.

If Brit was trying to make a statement about herself, she could have said the same thing except replace Xtina's name with something like 'other singers.' Brit is really riding high with the public and her first Top 10 hit in a decade, she's self-sabotaging.

For better or worse, no matter what Brit does, it'll be amplified and media. She's still top click-bait. That's been the case for nearly 25 years and it's really been ingrained in her from a young age. I doubt she'll ever escape that, which has factored into her mental health challenges. I'm looking forward to her next project.

[wavey.]

Thats her husband lol. He's BEEN there. H
Sam would get trashed for leaving her in this recovery process.

[Koochie]

Sept 14, 2022 10:39:26 GMT -5 woabritney said:

^ I don't think it's wrong to worry. I understand she's got tons of trauma, that's why I'm worried -- I don't want her to do anything to herself she'd regret. I don't mind her lashing out, especially if she's going to apologize. I only included the "where is Sam" bc I hate the thought of her being alone right now. I hope she has some great people around her making sure she's ok.

Don’t get me wrong, I never said it was wrong to be worried about her. Rather I’m seeing people worry about the wrong things and asking the wrong questions. This same “concern” from some people would not be in the Kanye thread for example, and he has been open about having BD. People thought it was funny when he had a manic episode and called it a campaign rally in South Carolina. People are asking if Britney is in therapy because she misspoke about Christina on Instagram. You can’t tell me people aren’t trying to make this a conversation without also having ulterior motives.

Having said that, I do think most of the concern is genuine, yours as well, but if we’re gonna have conversations about recovery and wellness let’s have reasonable expectations of her.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Hopefully sans the conservatorship and without supervision it isn't revealed by Britney herself she has the archetypal personality of the mean head cheerleader in most 90s/2000s films. LOL

All these statuses she writes are really revealing in a fairly unexpected way, but at least she has the freedom to write them. Let's hope she stays in favor of the public, cause at this rate, I could see her easily slipping up and saying further, far more controversial problematic things and people's sympathy only runs so deep.

[Koochie]

Sept 14, 2022 11:29:44 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Hopefully sans the conservatorship and without supervision it isn't revealed by Britney herself she has the archetypal personality of the mean head cheerleader in most 90s/2000s films.

Considering anyone who’s come within 15 feet of her said she’s a total sweetheart, something that cannot be said about others, I wouldn’t worry about it.

[Deleted]

Along with PTSD, I think it's pretty obvious Britney suffers from some form of mental illness (whether it's BP or whatever) and people don't always recover, especially if they're not receiving proper treatment, and her distrust of Dr.'s is no secret. Feeling hopeless and lost can lead down darker paths. That's my concern atm.
She doesn't seem stable at all and actually seems to be getting worse.

[Koochie]

Been meaning to get this off my chest and, although I’ve gone out of my way to respond to a few posts here, I want to address this discourse collectively.

I’ll be blunt: as someone who also suffers from PTSD and has a vested interest in psychology, including making a conscious effort to incorporate it into my practice as a PT, the constant policing of her capacity, condition, process, and progress is unnecessary and, frankly, offensive. Recovery is not linear, it is not easy, and it takes time.

Whether or not she’s chosen to seek medical help is none of our business, but from the statement she uploaded to YouTube I don’t think she’s against therapy. Rather, she wants to find a therapist who actually wants to help her, not a paycheck. It took me 13 years to find one that I could connect with, which is probably why I acted out so much on this forum when I was younger. I’m not saying that to make this about me either, rather the armchair psychological analyses need to stop. They’re profoundly unhelpful and lacking in any attempt to understand her uniquely awful situation. The constant scrutiny of Britney Spears is what got her here in the first place.

This could take years. There will be ups and downs. That is all very normal. All we can do is hope for the best.

[Glove Slap]

Sept 13, 2022 8:57:09 GMT -5 Love Plastic Love said:

Britney really feels stuck in like...the 2000s somewhere when she was originally put under conservatorship. Which sucks and is sad.

This is what makes it so painful to watch for me. You see what was taken from her. What they did to her. She's stunted through no fault of her own and there's no non-precarious path when that's your starting point.

[leoapp]

Xtina has just unfollowed Britney's instagram...
Well, i think most of us (even Xtina herself) knew that Britney pointed out about her own insecurity, but with a wrong quote and essay, because she name-dropped Xtina and/or her dancers.
So...i totally understand if Xtina was a bit mad/dissappointed/probably she didn't wanna recieve/read no more instagram stories from Britney (I bet Xtina herself believes Britney needing a break from social media)...

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Sept 14, 2022 11:29:44 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Hopefully sans the conservatorship and without supervision it isn't revealed by Britney herself she has the archetypal personality of the mean head cheerleader in most 90s/2000s films. LOL

All these statuses she writes are really revealing in a fairly unexpected way, but at least she has the freedom to write them. Let's hope she stays in favor of the public, cause at this rate, I could see her easily slipping up and saying further, far more controversial problematic things and people's sympathy only runs so deep.

The conservatorship kept her in media control but it didn't change the fact that everyone who worked with her or met her glows about amazing she is. Unless you're implying her drugged up changed her personality but that implies more about you than her. Britney is like Mariah narratives run wild but those who actually work with her love her. Its Christina who is the certified b***

It's a wonder that the ones with actual hits and legacy are real and gracious and the ones who don't are egotistical assholes.

[Deleted]

Britney probably didn’t mean any harm, but was being blunt and honest. She might lack the regard to see how that could have been taken. That being said, how much of a life and education has Britney received over the years, it seems like she learned more from being in a prison, and the effects from it. She was closed off for a long time, so I don’t expect her to not be messing up now that she has her freedom. It would be weird if she wasn’t. I understand her wanting to use her voice, and probably doesn’t have much impulse control, but I honestly feel like removing social media and focusing on your healing and your life would be best.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 15, 2022 17:58:07 GMT -5 @pma2015 said:

Sept 14, 2022 11:29:44 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Hopefully sans the conservatorship and without supervision it isn't revealed by Britney herself she has the archetypal personality of the mean head cheerleader in most 90s/2000s films. LOL

All these statuses she writes are really revealing in a fairly unexpected way, but at least she has the freedom to write them. Let's hope she stays in favor of the public, cause at this rate, I could see her easily slipping up and saying further, far more controversial problematic things and people's sympathy only runs so deep.

The conservatorship kept her in media control but it didn't change the fact that everyone who worked with her or met her glows about amazing she is. Unless you're implying her drugged up changed her personality but that implies more about you than her.

Let's not stretch people's words beyond what they were. I was referring to her Instagram post where she cosigned the meme referencing looking thinner by surrounding herself with "fat people", which is both crass and something I could imagine an archetypal character like the one I mentioned saying quite easily which is the only thing I was in fact saying. I wasn't even thinking of, nor considering drug use.

As for her reputation for always being so sweet and glowing, no idea on that as I don't follow her too closely (though I saw moments where I didn't find her particularly sweet on Xfactor toward people and have heard some questionable stories about fan meetings during her Vegas stints). Even still, I really don't care one way or another (as no one is all saint regardless, no, not even Britney, and everyone has their bad days).

I am more interested in seeing what her having more freedom to speak her mind shows about her character and personality, because I can't lie, some things she has posted I did not see coming. lol