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Post by Zeebz on Aug 5, 2014 11:06:41 GMT -5
Read my analysis; also his bandwagoning doesn't fit right with me Oh okay. I figured that was your reason. ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:07:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:09:50 GMT -5
![](http://happyorhungry.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/tumblr_lq0iwgze191qboy2yo2_500.gif) Steals my gifs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:14:01 GMT -5
I'm taking a ![](http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/pics/b/brake_pedal.jpg) Goodbye!
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Post by Rocky on Aug 5, 2014 11:20:55 GMT -5
Yay an automatic transmission car.
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popstop
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Post by popstop on Aug 5, 2014 11:23:44 GMT -5
Um, so anyhow. Anyone have thoughts on other players besides Green Baron and Invince or we just going to keep focusing on those two? ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:31:41 GMT -5
I still don't feel comfortable with a invince lynch just yet but this is either a ploy to make himself look so scummy that we hesitate to get rid of him. That being said when it aint normal there is a reason for it but its Day 1 and i'm willing to give it a little bit longer and figure out what exactly he is doing.
The last game taught me that sometimes the loudest most engaged are scum and the ones who are quieter and less of a showman lean town, now thats not exactly 100% but this early its important to look at it from all angles. right now most posts in order. Two of which keep going back and forth to cover up an alliance?
Invince Green Baron Kunt Ryan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:33:24 GMT -5
I will bet you 100% 1 out of those 4 is definitely scum and possibly 2.
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Post by popstop on Aug 5, 2014 11:33:27 GMT -5
Bored. So FWIW, the flavor claims I have:
Cynthia - Michelle Noonan Codex - NIck Uhas Invince - Britney Haynes Rocky - Jeff Schroeder Zebra - Ian Terry ry4n - Amy Crews popstop - Cody Calafiore Surf - Rachel Reilly Ginger - Brendon Villegas Coco - Janelle Pierzina Kunt - Amanda Zuckerskank
Max, Baron, Az - ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:34:59 GMT -5
Ryan, hello! so how is it going? thoughts so far on what is happening? Out of those 4 that posted the most I seem to remember hardly anything outside of the agreement that Incentive is doing the MOST with his life.
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Green Baron
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 5, 2014 11:40:52 GMT -5
My player is Lawon Exum.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:45:06 GMT -5
so I'm assuming Max is Kalia Booker
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:46:32 GMT -5
I have a few theories on Invince's role (particularly, how it might relate to GB) and they're all very plausible town theories, so I'm willing to ease up off him and GB, for now. I got a chance to ISO him, so here is a wall of quotes and text, weeeee Green Baron has done nothing but bandwagon, so my vote floats my boat. so you decide to bandwagon on him? Yeah, his case is worthy enough. I'm not liking the Green Baron wagon, just putting it out there, it seems like too much of a convenient bandwagon. That said, I wouldn't mind putting pressure on him just to see what he does. I'm really thinking he's town at the moment, and I would suggest others look into him more, cause if you do you'll see that he's been asking questions, and seems fairly invested; which brings up a past point: If he were scum, don't ya think he'd be asking the questions he's asked in the thread in the Mafia QT instead? If there is a chance GB is scum, I think he's aligned w/ Kunt and Kunt has encouraged him to ask questions in the thread instead of qt so it doesn't sound like he knows everything. NOBODY HAMMER, OR YOU'RE GOING NEXT. Vote: Green Baron Role claim. This sounds a bit adamant, but this is a way we can escape a mislynch. I'm not voting him because I find him scummy, this is just to put enough pressure on him for him to claim, cause I feel it's best right now. You guys stress me in these games, no one takes my word for a dime, nothing. I'm almost positive GB is not scum, so if possible I'd like the weight to shift elsewhere, you find me defensive as f**k over him, oh well I'm trying to get a good lynch here and not a mislynch, and I'm getting extreme newb town vibes from him, so I'm gonna defend him for now fwiw. We have nothing to go off of yet, and lynching someone who seems to give a f**k doesn't seem like the best move, as here early a lot of people are being rather quiet outside of myself and Green Baron i.e. Post count in the thread. I'm feeling good about popstop after that analysis, but it's not fully drawn town vibes for me, cause the vote against GB offsets the other good points in my mind. Cynthia, I'm feeling rather good about to, but that's just because I like her points and couldn't imagine scum Cynthia, but I am kinda side-eying her as the leader of Gb's lynch wagon, as I don't think she's one to go after newb town players from what I remember and it gives me a sense she knows something. Idk, I wanna look more into the people who currently have their votes on people that only have one vote, cause they're most likely rvs reasons. Also I'm not liking Coco's unwillingness to read, as it gives me Libra vibes from God Redacted who was mafia and publicly stated to me that he didn't feel like reading my posts, and that to me more or less is a cop-out. So anyways, back into my hole for a bit. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) Don't role claim. It could be a really bad move for town, and you're only at L-3. I don't really understand your play in this game. At times you strike me as town (analysis, great participation, not wanting a mislynch) and others you strike me as scum (flip flop votes, non-fluid reasoning for those, random pressure on Green Baron to put him at L-1) so I can't really read you, but you're giving me scum vibes. But I'm not scum.. That's my point. Lynch someone else you have a 100% higher chance of them being scum. - You see this all started with ne defending Green Baron being lynched. Have any of you thought it might be I know something? I'm not sharing cause there is no need to, but this happens game after game, like seriously this is gonna be god redacted all over again, when I made it to l1 50 times b/c my actions naturally look scummy, I'm only flippant because I was trying to divert the attention away from GB and myself.. And by doing that it makes people think wer're scum. This all is conflicting. You start off voting for GB for bandwagoning, then vote for him because you want to pressure him, then come up with a possible scum partner for him, then insist again that he must be town, then vote for him because you want him to role claim even though you still think he's town, then when the vote has turned on you get defensive and tell people that maybe you know something about GB that the rest of us don't. If you were so sure GB is town why would you even bother him at all? If you actually know his alignment for sure, what is the point of forcing him to out his role? You complain that you were trying to divert attention away from yourself and GB, yet you're the one that brought so much attention to the two of you in the first place! That's the reason why you hadn't been sitting well with me and probably why you were rubbing other people the wrong way; everything you've done has been very self-contradictory and not very town-friendly at all. However I said in the game before last that I needed to learn how to distinguish between scum and just a town player making a shitty move, and I'm willing to consider you as a townie making a shitty move or three. On the underlined part in that next to last post, I just want to address three things quickly: 1) Green Baron has one full game under his belt (and in fact, made it all the way to endgame on the winning team); even if he he still has a lot of questions to ask I no longer consider him 'new' and will not be cutting him any slack for it. 2) I was not the 'leader' of his lynch wagon, I was RVSing and until right after that post, hadn't gotten around to moving my vote. 3) I don't know anything. I feel our safest lynch tbh atm is Surf, because a lot of people are already looking stubborn to move their votes, and he seems like a viable target if we're gonna get a last minute lynch. On the other hand, we may need him to claim if we put pressure on him, depending on his claim, I might change my target. I wanna see if his claim is more believable than his one from the previous game. Yeah Surf's done limited real talk, and mostly rvs. Better lynch than Green Baron imo. This is something else that rubbed me the wrong way. Insistently taking up for GB is one thing but you keep returning to Surf as your preferred lynch, even going so far as to basically say 'well if we have to get a last minute lynch together Surf is the easiest guy to get rid of so let's just go with him.' This is terribly lazy reasoning at any time, about any player, and especially two whole days before we even need to worry about a last minute vote. You have voted for other people, but the reasoning for those votes was either weak or just nonexistent and you end up shifting your vote soon after and eventually finding your way back to Surf anyway. You're not really spreading your analysis around enough to consider other suspects more than him, and that sticks out to me because Surf and Baron have been at odds with each other in the game as well...so it comes off as two scum partners (you/GB) in agreement on which player they'd most like to get rid of (Surf). And again, you get the idea of making him role claim in your head, which on day one just isn't a good idea for anyone, vanilla or not. That said, I could chalk this up to unfortunate tunnel visioning on your part, and for whatever it's worth it doesn't seem like GB is aware of like, anything you're doing on his behalf. Whatever it is that you know, he apparently doesn't. What people don't realize is that you guys wait... And wait... And wait... For something to happen, and I made something happen. I pushed discussion (along with a couple others who i commend for that), and now for pushing everything as aggressively as I did, I'll probably get lynched, if anything this should give people from that god redacted game the same vibes from there. You guys are so damn stubborn with your votes that you wait till somebody does something out of the ordinary and then everyones willing to lynch them whoopee. This is like Az's last minute lynch in god redacted (which I was part of the lynch, so technically I shouldn't be complaining), but we all waited till he claimed Town Cop, and what did we do? We thought it was scum. What I'm trying to say here is we take way too long with this stupid rvs reasoning and once someone tries to push and away and give reason all it comes back to do is look scummy, this isn't the first time this has happened to me either. Funny how it's mostly people who don't know my style of play and weren't in that game that are voting for me. Anyways, I will claim if put at L-1. I was a vig who shot Krhazy on Day 1...that definitely counts as 'making something happen,' but that doesn't mean it was good. Town came very close to losing to the arsonist b/c of that. Plus, I don't think it really counts when the only thing you're making happen is giving people an easier consensus on who to lynch first. You need to find ways to push for things without looking so scummy or absurd that it just makes everyone look at YOU. Like, the questions I threw out a couple of days ago - I planned on throwing out even more hypotheticals like those. I haven't bothered b/c over half the people in the game haven't even responded to the ones I've asked yet, which defeats the purpose of the questions (I seriously need everyone to answer them for them to be even slightly useful later in the game). I don't know if it's that I'm not being aggressive enough about it, if the questions are striking people as too strange for day 1, or if it's just that a lot of people aren't online at the moment; but I'd rather go with a softer approach like that even if it doesn't go anywhere, than one that is too all over the place to go anywhere and just results in putting a big target on my back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:49:47 GMT -5
so I'm assuming Max is Kalia Booker I only say that because she was GB's partner and Az is Danielle Reyes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:51:57 GMT -5
I will bet you 100% 1 out of those 4 is definitely scum and possibly 2. I wouldn't guarantee one of those four are scum, check the post count from God Complex Mafia; the top 4 in posts were Invincible 563 (Town Roleblocker) Kunt 293 (Town Neigbourizer) Codex 178 (Town Cop) Lahey 159 (Town Doctor) josh 118 (Mod) Zebra. 95 (Mafia) Countryrocks 70 (Indie) Libra 68 (Mafia) Az 57 (Town Vanilla Role Cop) popstop 54 (Mafia) Super 48 (Town Lightning Rod) nick64 37 (Mafia) Devin 36 (Town Speaker Of The Dead) WotUNeed 33 (Town Tree Stump) Sean 25 (Town Double Dipper)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:56:31 GMT -5
Ryan, hello! so how is it going? thoughts so far on what is happening? Out of those 4 that posted the most I seem to remember hardly anything outside of the agreement that Incentive is doing the MOST with his life. Hi ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif) I'm fine, just woke up, had some toast, and now having a cup of tea. Yourself? Ok, but really. I haven't really had a chance to fully analyze everyone and everything. I do agree that I've been tunnel visioning Invince, though. DEAD
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:58:08 GMT -5
And Cynthia idk why others are being so hesitant to your questions - i for one am not though. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) I'll answer any question anyone's got for me.
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Green Baron
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 5, 2014 11:58:54 GMT -5
Is that a Big Brother inside joke
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:59:44 GMT -5
I'm literally crying at the flavor GB got
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:01:13 GMT -5
Is that a Big Brother inside joke He's often called the worst player in Big Brother history, and made one of the dumbest moves of all time
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Green Baron
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 5, 2014 12:02:24 GMT -5
Is that a Big Brother inside joke He's often called the worst player in Big Brother history, and made one of the dumbest moves of all time Then maybe Invince should have deserved him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:02:28 GMT -5
PLZ DONT SPOIL WHAT HE DID unless you use a spoiler
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:03:09 GMT -5
He's often called the worst player in Big Brother history, and made one of the dumbest moves of all time Then maybe Invince should have deserved him. Haha. Very funny, maybe you should get Devin from this season.
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Green Baron
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 5, 2014 12:03:52 GMT -5
Use a spoiler, what did he do
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 5, 2014 12:04:54 GMT -5
Then maybe Invince should have deserved him. Haha. Very funny, maybe you should get Devin from this season. Devin's not playing this game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:05:45 GMT -5
He QUEENED out too, he is kinda the opposite of you outside of game play ![](http://images.buddytv.com/articles/bb13-week5povrecap.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:06:27 GMT -5
Use a spoiler, what did he do When Brendon got evicted, they had a twist that someone was going to re-enter the game. The next evicted house guest would compete against Brendon to re-enter. But they were very vague with what they told the house guests, and Lawon thought the next evicted house guests would get a special power. So Lawon offered himself up to be evicted. They voted him out. He lost the challenge to re-enter the game. He went out looking like the biggest idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:07:41 GMT -5
LOL Invince isn't a Jester. Ok so here's what I remembered: This game seems like it would have more complicated than just a Vanilla Townie name, care to say the name exactly as it is, or is it really Vanilla Townie? So, going back to this, that is kind of weird (especially since Green Baron never clarified). Green Baron, what is your role specifically? Don't quote your role PM, but are you a "vanilla townie" or what? I'm also just going to go ahead and say that I'm with Cynthia: there are a number of possibilities that Invince does know Green Baron's alignment (I hinted at this earlier), so I think we need to lay off. Anyway, no I don't want Invince to role claim. I still don't feel comfortable with a invince lynch just yet Weren't you just pushing for it? The last game taught me that sometimes the loudest most engaged are scum and the ones who are quieter and less of a showman lean town, now thats not exactly 100% but this early its important to look at it from all angles. right now most posts in order. Two of which keep going back and forth to cover up an alliance? Invince Green Baron Kunt Ryan You left out Cynthia and popstop, neither of which have been anymore active than I have but also contributed a lot; so why am I here? ry4n hasn't been active hardly at all. The very subtle questioning between ry4n and Coco specifically is raising an eyebrow. FoS: Coco.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:08:39 GMT -5
And Cynthia, I'd gladly answer your questions, but I really don't even have an answer for them yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:12:39 GMT -5
And Cynthia, I'd gladly answer your questions, but I really don't even have an answer for them yet. that's fine. also i swear every time i scroll by your avi i am eating something and i feel like the llama is making fun of me chewing. we're always in sync. it's very weird.
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