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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:16 GMT -5
I didn't claim my role for nothing, so he's obviously the better lynch target atm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:26 GMT -5
LOL you of all people calling me defensive? odd.
I'm just sensing a thread between you and Matt and processing why
also I have no idea if Baron is or isn't scum but a lame role claim is indicative of that, I just dont think INCASE he is town and incase he does have a power role we should be prodding it out of him which makes me leery of you and Matt right now.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:38 GMT -5
I'm not lying.
Mine says House Floater (Vanilla), I didn't know you wanted me to put House Floater because that's unimportant, the role is Vanilla.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:59 GMT -5
I'm claiming cuz it means we're getting rid of scum. I am a house floater - which is this games version of vanilla, so I know it's not just vanilla townie, so this makes it enough for me to vote you. Now i know you're lying. Vote: Green Baron Okay wait a minute here, now it just looks like all that s**t you were spewing in defence of Baron is being altered and changed by Kunt, why are you so ready to throw him under the bus. Let's all be CLEAR, we all know Baron vanilla town claim was bogus but maybe he didnt wanna give something away and you and Matt seem to want him to give his role? he could have said house vanilla but again we established he is sort of a rookie at this game. Fake claiming is always bad, because then you're effectivelyl ying, and Invince actually questioned his role earlier in the game. His change of mind isn't that surprising. As for the possibility of Invince and I being aligned, no, but you're really doing the most right now and I'm not sure I like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:00:04 GMT -5
I have no idea if Baron is or isn't scum but a lame role claim is indicative of that, I just dont think INCASE he is town and incase he does have a power role we should be prodding it out of him which makes me leery of you and Matt right now. That's not what we're doing. His role blatantly contradicts the flavor of the game. Town is referred to as House, not town, so for him to be "Vanilla Townie" is just a total bullshit lie. It's literally the scummiest thing to happen this game and I have no idea why you're randomly trying to justify that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:00:28 GMT -5
Yeah Coco's accusations seem to be coming out of nowhere
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:01:27 GMT -5
I'm not lying. Mine says House Floater (Vanilla), I didn't know you wanted me to put House Floater because that's unimportant, the role is Vanilla. I do not buy this at all. I asked you for your role SPECIFICALLY if it was vanilla, or something else catered to the game and you said "Vanilla Townie, nothing else." No.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:01:54 GMT -5
it is entirely possible that GB misunderstood Kunt's questioning (see his above defense) but it's also just as plausible that he knew better than to actually claim his role, and just threw out vanilla. Scum gets safe claims; power roles don't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:03:01 GMT -5
I'm not saying you are aligned but its looking that way at the moment, and Invince seems to be pulling a SURF from last game
alarm bells go off.
Besides Green is FOS but the fact that you Matt are willing to not look at all options and leading a lynch of him even if he is scum is a tad odd, I would think you would look at everybody first.
I know that basically IT LOOKS like i'm coming to Baron's defense but remember last game i was scum i used him as bait cause he looks scummy so i'm leery of others leading a lynch of green baron and leading a find out his role bandwagon, its lazy and Matt isnt usually lazy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:03:41 GMT -5
^to further expound, scum would have safe claims that fit the flavor but a power role trying to hide wouldn't have that clue. and frankly i caught the lie as soon as he said it but left it alone because it was kind of obvious to me. but wtf do i know, right.
Vote: Invince because you started this mess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:03:46 GMT -5
I don't want to vote Invince, he still reminds me so much of myself lol. Has Invince been Mafia yet? I think he'd tone down if he was. Scum got safe claims though, so I don't get his claim. Well, s**t, this is weird to me. It's possible he didn't want to use his safe claim though? That's what we did last game. Vote: Green BaronI think that's actually probable. I think Green is new enough that if he was actually a vanilla townie he would have said floater. Especially since he still doesn't seem to get the game... @touch I was literally just watching that video before coming in this thread. And this: starts at 8:04 She's like a racist coked up Jenna Marbles
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:03:49 GMT -5
it is entirely possible that GB misunderstood Kunt's questioning (see his above defense) but it's also just as plausible that he knew better than to actually claim his role, and just threw out vanilla. Scum gets safe claims; power roles don't. To reiterate: Green Baron, what is your role specifically? Don't quote your role PM, but are you a "vanilla townie" or what?. @touch Vanilla townie. Nothing else. That seems pretty clear to me. Both my question and his response.
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Post by josh on Aug 5, 2014 13:06:42 GMT -5
Erection.
With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
Deadline is August 6, 11:00pm ET.
Green Baron: 5 (Rocky, Ry4n, Kunt, Invincible, Codex) Invincible: 5 (Max, Coco, Surfboardt, Ginger Spice, Cynthia) Ry4n: 1 (Popstop) Surfboardt: 2 (Az, Green Baron)
Not voting: 1 (Zebra)
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 5, 2014 13:06:58 GMT -5
Okay, so I'm going to be gone for a bit and I would really like my vote on someone while I am so
Vote: Baron. You're my biggest suspicion and honestly I can't tell if you're town or scum and that claim seemed a little convenient.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:07:30 GMT -5
Yeah Coco's accusations seem to be coming out of nowhere really honey? cause i'm to take all y'all lenses and expand and if that makes me scum then so be it, there is a reason why i think Baron didnt reveal the extent of his role and i'll leave it at that, I may be wrong. I'm playing the game instead of the game playing me. I love how invince and Matt liked that post too. duly noted later on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:08:43 GMT -5
Vote: Invince because you started this mess. I don't get why Invince, as scum, would push for Green Baron being town unless they're aligned though-- and they're obviously not because of this whole role fiasco, so I'm thinking Invince is town.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:09:29 GMT -5
Then again I tried to do this with Az in God [Redacted] mafia by asking him to tell us his exact role, and he kept saying "Town Role Cop" even though he was "God Role Cop" but he actually was town
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:10:09 GMT -5
Yeah Coco's accusations seem to be coming out of nowhere really honey? cause i'm to take all y'all lenses and expand and if that makes me scum then so be it, there is a reason why i think Baron didnt reveal the extent of his role and i'll leave it at that, I may be wrong. I'm playing the game instead of the game playing me. I love how invince and Matt liked that post too. duly noted later on. So now liking posts is scummy, really???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:10:29 GMT -5
and I hope Green Baron is what I think he is or the bridage will probably lead a wagon on to me. Which they may or may not be planting.
Max, AZ, Pop and Rocky any thoughts so far?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:12:16 GMT -5
Then again I tried to do this with Az in God [Redacted] mafia by asking him to tell us his exact role, and he kept saying "Town Role Cop" even though he was "God Role Cop" but he actually was town Actually I remember Kunt defending Az... saying that town being god is "self explanatory", so I'm curious why he changed his mind this game and thinks it's super scummy... I mean, I agree, but...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:12:30 GMT -5
really honey? cause i'm to take all y'all lenses and expand and if that makes me scum then so be it, there is a reason why i think Baron didnt reveal the extent of his role and i'll leave it at that, I may be wrong. I'm playing the game instead of the game playing me. I love how invince and Matt liked that post too. duly noted later on. So now liking posts is scummy, really??? LMFAO bitch read cause you damn well know that aint what i said. Over the top honey over the top buy whhhhyyyyy is the question of the day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:14:06 GMT -5
it is entirely possible that GB misunderstood Kunt's questioning (see his above defense) but it's also just as plausible that he knew better than to actually claim his role, and just threw out vanilla. Scum gets safe claims; power roles don't. To reiterate: Green Baron, what is your role specifically? Don't quote your role PM, but are you a "vanilla townie" or what?. @touch Vanilla townie. Nothing else. That seems pretty clear to me. Both my question and his response. like i said in my post right after - scum has safe claims that would fit the flavor. he would have teammates telling him what to say (and they probably would have all told him to just not claim). a town power role does not get a safe claim, and therefore that person is on his or her own. so GB has played one game, which is enough to know that you're not supposed to claim early in the game unless you're under total pressure (and even then, maybe not if you think you can weasel your way out of a lynch), but he's still a rookie, so doesn't know enough to lie well or realize that role names are usually changed to go with the game's theme. like, if his role is HoH, how would he know that everyone else's role also has House in it? He doesn't even watch the show. he wouldn't know. teammates would have helped him on this. he has none. if he is lynched and flips scum y'all are the luckiest guessers on the planet, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:14:43 GMT -5
I would like to hear from someone who hasnt made up their mind on Invince or Baron, may i can gleam more info. I just don't like the closed mindedness that is really going on right now. Its DAY 1 how is everyone's mind made up?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:14:57 GMT -5
i almost feel it's necessary for towns own good to lynch me or gb even if we both are vanilla b/c now that you look at it it eliminates two would be power roles and that's not gonna be good as we advance through the game, so either lynching me or gb would be the best move for town. Your choice = our destiny town.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:14:58 GMT -5
Then again I tried to do this with Az in God [Redacted] mafia by asking him to tell us his exact role, and he kept saying "Town Role Cop" even though he was "God Role Cop" but he actually was town Actually I remember Kunt defending Az... saying that town being god is "self explanatory", so I'm curious why he changed his mind this game and thinks it's super scummy... I mean, I agree, but... Because I took the liberty of asking him to specify if it WAS flavor specific, and "Vanilla Townie" and "House Floater" sound absolutely nothing alike lol. I can see Town Role Cop and God Role Cop getting confused, but...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:17:13 GMT -5
so GB has played one game, which is enough to know that you're not supposed to claim early in the game unless you're under total pressure (and even then, maybe not if you think you can weasel your way out of a lynch), but he's still a rookie, so doesn't know enough to lie well or realize that role names are usually changed to go with the game's theme. like, if his role is HoH, how would he know that everyone else's role also has House in it? He doesn't even watch the show. he wouldn't know. teammates would have helped him on this. he has none. if he is lynched and flips scum y'all are the luckiest guessers on the planet, imo. By the "he's new" defense he could also not understand how safe claims work, or have consulted his partners in the QT. Or he's an independent and still thus still has no partners. As for the guessing thing, do you have something better to go off of? lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:18:20 GMT -5
i almost feel it's necessary for towns own good to lynch me or gb even if we both are vanilla b/c now that you look at it it eliminates two would be power roles and that's not gonna be good as we advance through the game, so either lynching me or gb would be the best move for town. Your choice = our destiny town. I would like to reiterate this since new page.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:18:33 GMT -5
It's not like he wasn't a target of suspicion earlier in the game, at least that was my understanding from when I glossed over it. And the whole "he's town" theory actually came about when we presumed Invince's role somehow told him GB's alliance. So I don't know why we're all of a sudden assuming his claim is valid. Because it looks too bad?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:19:44 GMT -5
and i went back to voting for Invince out of annoyance. unvote: Invince because honestly if GB is town (which I think he is) the only logical way Invince could be scum is if he laid out the most elaborate out-a-role setup of all time, and idk if I'm willing to give him that much credit.
I have not ISO'ed anyone else's posts yet and probably won't have time to until tonight so I guess I'll just be voteless again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:20:56 GMT -5
I can give him this, on his last post he said his role pm said House Floater (Vanilla) which could be a safe claim, but we never mentioned the vanilla in parentheses, and that's exactly how it says it in my role pm, again this could be a safe claim, but he may be telling the truth. If he is, my next target is Coco cause I'm not buying her reasons here.
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