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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:32:36 GMT -5
This song actually gives me the creeps a little bit. Darius comes across as that old creepy guy sitting in the corner of the bar who can't take his eyes off the woman that's half his age.
The "did your momma teach you how to do that thing you do?" line is just...ew. And the hook "baby you're just so homegrown" is also pretty grating to me.
When this one comes on the radio, I can't change the station fast enough.
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Post by someguy on Mar 1, 2015 3:47:22 GMT -5
I agree, this is horrendous. I hope it goes recurrent soon.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Mar 1, 2015 6:21:32 GMT -5
Looks like I'm in the minority again. But come to think of it, I agree with you all that this could have better songwriting (in particular the chorus)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 1, 2015 13:18:09 GMT -5
I didn't realize so many people didn't like this. :o I love it personally and get excited when it comes on the radio, but I'll admit that the lyrics are not why I love this, lol. The melody and production are really strong though, and I just love that guitar riff. Darius is also a great vocalist, too, so his voice tends to elevate songs that I might otherwise dislike. Like I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like this at all if someone like Jason Aldean were singing it instead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 13:54:38 GMT -5
I don't dislike this, but Darius, (generally), completely underwhelms me with his single choices.
I love his voice, and I want to root for him as an artist, but he's so hit-or-miss, and it's a shame he has to from decent singles to completely forgettable fodder. I know Darius wants a career in Country, but I wish he'd go more in the way of Ashley Monroe, Kacey Musgraves etc, and just focus on releasing GOOD material rather than selling out and catering to radio.
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Post by zebra71 on Mar 4, 2015 18:55:09 GMT -5
This song is decent as other current songs. Darius is a good singer, but hopefully his next single and upcoming album will be better.
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Post by rjz on Mar 5, 2015 7:32:48 GMT -5
I don't dislike this, but Darius, (generally), completely underwhelms me with his single choices. I love his voice, and I want to root for him as an artist, but he's so hit-or-miss, and it's a shame he has to from decent singles to completely forgettable fodder. I know Darius wants a career in Country, but I wish he'd go more in the way of Ashley Monroe, Kacey Musgraves etc, and just focus on releasing GOOD material rather than selling out and catering to radio. I don't think all his singles have missed as far as quality goes; I think 'This' is a perfect Country song and some past relationship songs have really hit with me. He truly is a great vocalist-who else could have taken iconic Wagon Wheel and turned it into a huge hit like he did on the strength of his vocals? But yeah, even though his voice is as good as ever, the lyrics of this are cringe worthy to my ear for some reason the more I hear it-and I agree the song seems to be somewhat pandering to Bro-Country.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 17:01:20 GMT -5
Darius Rucker's new album is set to hit stores the last Tuesday of the month, which is perfect timing for "Homegrown Honey" to receive a final push on the charts to coincide with the album release week. The next two #1's should go to Jason Aldean and Brett Eldredge and the following two to Chris Young and Cole Swindell, which will leave Darius just ahead of Sam Hunt's "Take Your Time." (I'm confidently assuming Sam Hunt will pass Lee Brice and Zac Brown Band on the charts over the next two weeks.) Since Darius and Sam are both on UMG's roster, it's pretty likely that MCA would stall "Take Your Time" just a bit for "Homegrown Honey" to do a #1 push the week of 3/30-4/5. Right now, Capitol Nashville is doing a great job of working the Mediabase points system in favor of this song and they've managed to push back ahead of "Ain't Worth the Whiskey," but there's no way this is catching up to Chris Young or Cole Swindell on the Billboard chart and I'd be quite surprised to see Darius maintain his lead over Cole on even Mediabase for more than a week, so I see this peaking just after "Ain't Worth the Whiskey" in its 34th week on the chart. I just hope Darius' next single returns a bit more to his original style and manages to connect with audiences more. This chart run feels just a bit manufactured to me and I can't see this being a top 10 if it weren't a lead single.
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Post by gonecountry on Mar 6, 2015 18:24:52 GMT -5
Please tell me that this song is about over. When Darius has a good song, I really enjoy it. His first album had some classics. He has been spotty ever since.
This is not a good song IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 23:24:53 GMT -5
Darius Rucker's new album is set to hit stores the last Tuesday of the month, which is perfect timing for "Homegrown Honey" to receive a final push on the charts to coincide with the album release week. The next two #1's should go to Jason Aldean and Brett Eldredge and the following two to Chris Young and Cole Swindell, which will leave Darius just ahead of Sam Hunt's "Take Your Time." (I'm confidently assuming Sam Hunt will pass Lee Brice and Zac Brown Band on the charts over the next two weeks.) Since Darius and Sam are both on UMG's roster, it's pretty likely that MCA would stall "Take Your Time" just a bit for "Homegrown Honey" to do a #1 push the week of 3/30-4/5. Right now, Capitol Nashville is doing a great job of working the Mediabase points system in favor of this song and they've managed to push back ahead of "Ain't Worth the Whiskey," but there's no way this is catching up to Chris Young or Cole Swindell on the Billboard chart and I'd be quite surprised to see Darius maintain his lead over Cole on even Mediabase for more than a week, so I see this peaking just after "Ain't Worth the Whiskey" in its 34th week on the chart. I just hope Darius' next single returns a bit more to his original style and manages to connect with audiences more. This chart run feels just a bit manufactured to me and I can't see this being a top 10 if it weren't a lead single. I predicted this before "Homegrown" had another big spike on iTunes (which I think was caused by ZBB releasing two album tracks to iTunes and gaining some attention from rock audiences). Now it looks like "Homegrown" is going to go up ahead of Sam Hunt's song. Sam Hunt will still get his week at #1 (probably two weeks), but this means that Darius is "on his own." Zac Brown Band's song will pass this on no time (definitely by the Billboard chart published in 3/26, but quite possibly by the chart that comes out this Monday). I think it's going to be tough for Darius to push back ahead of "Homegrown" or wait it out, so maybe this will end up peaking in the top 5 below #1 altogether.
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Post by someguy on Mar 13, 2015 23:48:51 GMT -5
Please tell me that this song is about over. When Darius has a good song, I really enjoy it. His first album had some classics. He has been spotty ever since. This is not a good song IMO. I like Darius's voice a lot, but I haven't really been a huge fan of any of singles. "Wagon Wheel" was definitely my favourite, but outside of that they've ranged from 'ok' ("It's Alright", "Don't Think I Don't Think About It") to bland ("History In The Making", "This") to bad ("Homegrown Honey", "Come Back Song"). His Hootie material was much better, imo.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 14, 2015 0:31:30 GMT -5
I predicted this before "Homegrown" had another big spike on iTunes (which I think was caused by ZBB releasing two album tracks to iTunes and gaining some attention from rock audiences). The bulk of the sales spike can be attributed to their appearance on Saturday Night Live recently.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 18, 2015 16:45:11 GMT -5
"Southern Style" can now be streamed on iTunes, and it is a 1000x better than "Homegrown Honey". It reminds me more of Darius' country debut. Solid song, and has upped my excitement for the new album.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 18:49:16 GMT -5
"Southern Style" sounds really fantastic. It's soulful and Darius kills it on the vocals.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Mar 21, 2015 6:21:28 GMT -5
I think they are giving this a final push; this suddenly just leaped over Chris Young on MB. But as far as I'm concerned, this won't be headed for #1 given how competitive the chart is right now. ZBB will be #1 in two weeks' time, and as dm2081 pointed out in the Lonely Eyes thread, they won't just settle for 1 week at #1. So unless Rucker and Young move faster (more unlikely for the former), they won't reach #1 with their respective singles. Even if this doesn't reach #1, it had a good run and I will be satisfied with a #3 or #4 peak. 3 1 COLE SWINDELL Ain't Worth The Whiskey 7616 6817 799 59.712 6 2 ZAC BROWN BAND Homegrown 7212 6417 795 55.998 5 3 DARIUS RUCKER Homegrown Honey 7142 6722 420 55.903 4 4 CHRIS YOUNG Lonely Eyes 7105 6830 275 56.912
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Post by someguy on Mar 21, 2015 16:07:05 GMT -5
I was surprised to see Darius have such a good update. Maybe they'll be satisfied with a #3 peak? I can't recall a big push for that, outside of "Easy" a few years ago, but I don't see the value in pushing so hard now, when Cole Swindell is so far ahead, and ZBB are having massive updates and will likely continue to grow for the next little while. But if the plan is to get HH to peak as high as possible, and then get "Southern Style" out there so it's release coincides with the March 31st album launch, that I guess I could see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:14:12 GMT -5
I don't think gaining 106 spins one day is any indication of a final push at all. My guess is they'll push this through Darius' album release week (3/30-4/5) and try to get to #1, but Zac Brown Band's label will probably be pushing to keep "Homegrown" at #1 so it will just come down to which label is more powerful. Since this is Capitol Nashville I'm starting to think Darius may be able to get a Mediabase-only #1, unfortunately, even though in my opinion this doesn't deserve a peak that high.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 21:04:26 GMT -5
I agree with @daydrinker. I don't get the sense that Capitol Nashville is doing a final push at the moment. Well, in a way they are (by asking radio stations to "power this one up"), but I don't think the idea is to get this one to #3 this Sunday/Monday and then let it drop this week. I expect Darius to keep climbing through at least the 28th/29th, if not the 4th/5th, after which I expect this one to fall hard.
Cole Swindell will obviously be #1 on both charts this week, and then I expect ZBB to easily top the charts on the 29th (MB) and 30th (BB), with Darius probably moving up to #2 (assuming Cole starts falling by mid-week, and that Darius can also remain ahead of Chris Young and Sam Hunt). And like daydrinker said, I can't imagine ZBB just getting up to #1 and then falling right away. I expect "Homegrown" to get at least 2 weeks at #1, and block "Homegrown Honey" in the process. ZBB could even have a chance at 3 weeks at #1, but that'll depend on how much the Southern Ground promo team wants a 3rd week. I expect they'll probably get 2 weeks, and then we'll see Sam Hunt take over for a couple of weeks. Chris Young's team has eased off on the throttle--they're probably waiting to see how things shake out and then will decide if they can mount a push big enough to sneak into the top spot.
I like Chris' song a good deal (Darius', not so much), but I'm really hoping that we see ZBB get 2-3 weeks at #1, and then Sam Hunt getting 2-3 weeks at #1 after that. I think that would be a truer reflection of which songs have been the biggest hits. Lee Brice seems like another one that could peak at #2 or #3 (if he even gets that high), but maybe Curb can keep that one gaining long enough for Lee to possibly top the charts after Sam is done.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 24, 2015 11:40:45 GMT -5
Capitol is definitely doing a final push this week. "Homegrown Honey" is up 1.14 million in audience today and a whopping 157 spins. The thing is, ZBB is up 732k and 116 spins themselves. Darius was only behind ZBB by 252 total points on the MB published chart yesterday and "Homegrown Honey" has out gained "Homegrown" by 400k in audience the past three days with just a 4 spin difference between the two over that time frame; so I presume that the margin is extremely close right now. I think Warner wants a second week on top but both Darius and ZBB aren't waiting around and I suspect we'll get a new #1 by Sunday (29th) and Monday (30th). Like jhomes87 said, this one will be falling pretty hard once this push is finished as I really believe "Homegrown Honey" did not act like a #1 or #2 song for most of its run.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 24, 2015 12:16:07 GMT -5
I really hope "Ain't Worth The Whiskey" or "Homegrown" can block this from the #1 spot. I don't mind this song, but I' sick of the revolving door at the #1 position on the Airplay charts. I want ZBB to get at least 2 weeks at the top, preferably 3-4. Both of those songs have been way more popular than this one, and I would like to see the Airplay chart reflect that to at least some degree. A #2 peak for this song would be fine.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 24, 2015 12:45:11 GMT -5
I really hope "Ain't Worth The Whiskey" or "Homegrown" can block this from the #1 spot. I don't mind this song, but I' sick of the revolving door at the #1 position on the Airplay charts. I want ZBB to get at least 2 weeks at the top, preferably 3-4. Both of those songs have been way more popular than this one, and I would like to see the Airplay chart reflect that to at least some degree. A #2 peak for this song would be fine. You'll get your wish with the Zac Brown Band. Big Machine is really making a statement here, just steamrolling over the competition. After all, Chris Young barely edged the Band for second on the chart. The Band will get two weeks at top, followed by Sam Hunt. I think the best Darius Rucker can hope for is a #3 peak with Homegrown Honey.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 14:29:26 GMT -5
I don't think Big Machine has a hand in promoting ZBB's single. Southern Ground is responsible for radio promo, while Big Machine is only involved in marketing/distribution from what I understand.
As much as I don't like it, I'm now wondering if we will see every song currently in the top 5 peak at number one on MB, with ZBB and SH getting multiple weeks topping Billboard.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 24, 2015 14:55:12 GMT -5
As much as I don't like it, I'm now wondering if we will see every song currently in the top 5 peak at number one on MB, with ZBB and SH getting multiple weeks topping Billboard. I think "Lonely Eyes" will be the odd man out here. Both Darius and ZBB have out gained Chris, not only last week, but the first three days of the MB week this week. I could see how Darius misses #1 and Chris can somehow sneak a week at MB out next week, but I know it won't be coming this week. "Lonely Eyes" is only up 55 spins and 1 million in audience and I just don't see how RCA is going to outdo Capitol and ZBB in this scenario. I'm definitely intrigued by the top 4 songs right now, but like people have mentioned before, including dm2081, the revolving door policy on both MB and Billboard, but especially MB is unfortunate and I long for the days of 3-4-5 week #1 singles.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Mar 24, 2015 19:30:58 GMT -5
I think they are giving this a final push; this suddenly just leaped over Chris Young on MB. But as far as I'm concerned, this won't be headed for #1 given how competitive the chart is right now. ZBB will be #1 in two weeks' time, and as dm2081 pointed out in the Lonely Eyes thread, they won't just settle for 1 week at #1. So unless Rucker and Young move faster (more unlikely for the former), they won't reach #1 with their respective singles. Even if this doesn't reach #1, it had a good run and I will be satisfied with a #3 or #4 peak. 3 1 COLE SWINDELL Ain't Worth The Whiskey 7616 6817 799 59.712 6 2 ZAC BROWN BAND Homegrown 7212 6417 795 55.998 5 3 DARIUS RUCKER Homegrown Honey 7142 6722 420 55.903 4 4 CHRIS YOUNG Lonely Eyes 7105 6830 275 56.912 Capitol is definitely doing a final push this week. "Homegrown Honey" is up 1.14 million in audience today and a whopping 157 spins. The thing is, ZBB is up 732k and 116 spins themselves. Darius was only behind ZBB by 252 total points on the MB published chart yesterday and "Homegrown Honey" has out gained "Homegrown" by 400k in audience the past three days with just a 4 spin difference between the two over that time frame; so I presume that the margin is extremely close right now. I think Warner wants a second week on top but both Darius and ZBB aren't waiting around and I suspect we'll get a new #1 by Sunday (29th) and Monday (30th). Like jhomes87 said, this one will be falling pretty hard once this push is finished as I really believe "Homegrown Honey" did not act like a #1 or #2 song for most of its run. Told ya they are giving this a final push
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 8:43:17 GMT -5
Told ya they are giving this a final push We use the phrase "final push" to indicate a last week push, which is currently happening right now. So no, this one was not getting a final push last week. The final push began at the beginning of this week and will continue into this weekend and... Man, am I ever mad about it. Darius re-passed ZBB on MB today, and considering that it's only Wednesday, it looks like Darius will be able to easily push up to #1 this weekend, possibly even on both charts. Cole Swindell lost 80 spins and 400k overnight, while Darius gained 150 spins and 900k. He's only 220 spins behind Cole on MB right now, which means Darius could easily be #1 in spins by tomorrow morning already, if tomorrow's update is like today's. I was pessimistic all along about Cole Swindell holding on to the top spot for more than a week, because even though he still had room to grow (his peak spins/audience numbers are quite a bit less than what Brett Eldredge peaked with), he saw a lot of big gains last week and so I was expecting him to plateau this week and perhaps start falling as well. Couple that with the fact that his lead wasn't super big (He was ahead of Chris Young and ZBB by a little more than 3 million on BB, while the gap back to Darius was just under 5 mil--and neither of those gaps is too big to be overcome by a pursuing song) and that Darius has an album coming out, I just figured that someone would push really hard to take over the top spot...whether it'd be Darius himself or someone else (Chris Young) trying to get to the top spot before ZBB could, I wasn't sure. But I just had a feeling that Cole would only get the 1 week. Then on Monday night there weren't any "#1 and holding strong" ads out for Cole, which had me thinking that Warner wouldn't even fight for a 2nd week at the top. And even if they did fight I'm not convinced they could have held off Darius, because again, as I said, Cole had huge gains last week (greatest gainer on Billboard with 4.6 mil gained and an increase of 855 spins) and so it was gonna be tough for him to even stay level this week.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Mar 25, 2015 8:50:50 GMT -5
Told ya they are giving this a final push We use the phrase "final push" to indicate a last week push, which is currently happening right now. So no, this one was not getting a final push last week. The final push began at the beginning of this week and will continue into this weekend and... Man, am I ever mad about it. Darius re-passed ZBB on MB today, and considering that it's only Wednesday, it looks like Darius will be able to easily push up to #1 this weekend, possibly even on both charts. Cole Swindell lost 80 spins and 400k overnight, while Darius gained 150 spins and 900k. He's only 220 spins behind Cole on MB right now, which means Darius could easily be #1 in spins by tomorrow morning already, if tomorrow's update is like today's. I was pessimistic all along about Cole Swindell holding on to the top spot for more than a week, because even though he still had room to grow (his peak spins/audience numbers are quite a bit less than what Brett Eldredge peaked with), he saw a lot of big gains last week and so I was expecting him to plateau this week and perhaps start falling as well. Couple that with the fact that his lead wasn't super big (He was ahead of Chris Young and ZBB by a little more than 3 million on BB, while the gap back to Darius was just under 5 mil--and neither of those gaps is too big to be overcome by a pursuing song) and that Darius has an album coming out, I just figured that someone would push really hard to take over the top spot...whether it'd be Darius himself or someone else (Chris Young) trying to get to the top spot before ZBB could, I wasn't sure. But I just had a feeling that Cole would only get the 1 week. Then on Monday night there weren't any "#1 and holding strong" ads out for Cole, which had me thinking that Warner wouldn't even fight for a 2nd week at the top. And even if they did fight I'm not convinced they could have held off Darius, because again, as I said, Cole had huge gains last week (greatest gainer on Billboard with 4.6 mil gained and an increase of 855 spins) and so it was gonna be tough for him to even stay level this week. I'll laugh if it pulls of a Give It All We Got Tonight/Southern Comfort Zone and collapses after this week. Sorry if my post was misleading.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 9:05:49 GMT -5
From now on, I have one rule of thumb for predicting the charts: Everyone gets one week at #1. The only song to peak in the top 10 below the top spot on even Billboard this year has been Carrie Underwood's "Something in the Water." (Her week was snagged by Luke Bryan's "I See You.") As long as PD's continue to cooperate with this nonsense at the expense of listeners, the revolving door will continue. I guess whatever compensation the labels are giving program directors is greater than the revenue they could potentially lose by keeping songs listeners no longer want to hear in high rotation a few extra weeks.
ETA: I did forget about "Like a Cowboy" and "Take It on Back," which peaked at #3 and #9 respectively on Billboard's airplay chart. However, those were long shots from #1 all along. The Randy Houser song took seven months just to reach the top 10 and the Chase Bryant song was given an airplay boost by iHeartRadio's On the Verge treatment but was never looking like a #1 and had been stalling ever since it hit the top 20. I personally found a top 5 peak for the Randy Houser song and a top 10 peak for the Chase Bryant song to be ridiculous enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 9:28:17 GMT -5
I guess whatever compensation the labels are giving program directors Donuts!!! Free concert tickets for your listeners!! Just get us to #1, please! Cole had his turn last week, it's our turn now!!
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 25, 2015 11:51:45 GMT -5
I guess whatever compensation the labels are giving program directors Donuts!!! Free concert tickets for your listeners!! Just get us to #1, please! Cole had his turn last week, it's our turn now!! Even though Jamie's being funny here, it's 100% true. It's a loop hole around a true payloa. I truly believe most people at radio aren't concerned enough to care about morals with a revolving door at #1 - to them it's not important as it is to us. They're friends with many people who promote these singles and to them they're just helping out their friends. It's all about keeping everyone as happy as possible in the world of big money business and if it comes at the expense of some undeserving #1's, then so be it. This "nonsense" will continue til we're blue in the face.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Mar 25, 2015 13:03:59 GMT -5
I desperately hope this falls short of #1. This just doesn't seem like a #1 hit or anything close to it. I'm honestly very surprised its made it this far instead of stalling outside the top 10. This is probably my least favorite Darius single ever, so I really hope his album is much better than this single.
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