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Post by Kinney on Nov 3, 2014 19:28:25 GMT -5
I think her leaving country only helps her sell more albums. It's not like country fans are buying albums in droves, at least looking at other releases lately. Apparently it's for sale on a Microsoft app for only .99 cents too (and they now count again on Billboard because of how low sales are). As for the Country sales thing, I think fans are still buying enough albums. I also think that the whole system is in a downward trend (which will hopefully stabilize/go back up at some point). I would just like to clarify that once Big Machine found about the sale, Microsoft ended the sale (the sale was supposed to go until today but only lasted two days, her PR tweeted about it). And regardless, Billboard has not counted any album sold below $3.49 during the first four weeks of a new album's run ever since the Lady Gaga debacle. Anything that was sold by Microsoft will not be counted towards Taylor's debut numbers. Just to comment, I think it's really fantastic how much support her Country peers have been showing her. I've seen so many supportive tweets and comments in interviews from such a large number of Country artists, especially with the the way Taylor has so respectfully talked about and dealt with the whole "going pop" situation. The feeling I get when I read the support from her peers is as if she is their little sister going off to the big city to pursue her dreams, and that she'll be welcomed with open arms when she returns. Don't mind me, just rambling.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 3, 2014 19:42:44 GMT -5
I honestly don't see what a big deal it would be. It would only be a few thousand at best. Not hundreds of thousands. It wasn't heavily advertised either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 20:03:09 GMT -5
I honestly don't see what a big deal it would be. It would only be a few thousand at best. Not hundreds of thousands. It wasn't heavily advertised either. It wasn't heavily advertised? I've seen ads for this album everywhere. To me it seems like it's been one of the most-advertised albums in recent memory.
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Post by carriekins on Nov 3, 2014 20:04:20 GMT -5
I honestly don't see what a big deal it would be. It would only be a few thousand at best. Not hundreds of thousands. It wasn't heavily advertised either. I'm confused as to what you're referencing here? You don't think the lack of a country hit would hurt sales, or...? You might be right--obviously the album is selling incredibly well (projected to debut with more than 1.3 million sold, her best yet)--but who's to say it wouldn't have done 1.5 mil if she had a major country hit from it as well? Also, it wasn't heavily advertised? I've seen ads for this album everywhere. To me it seems like it's been one of the most-advertised albums in recent memory. I think he's talking about the Microsoft sale.
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Post by someguy on Nov 3, 2014 20:04:57 GMT -5
I honestly don't see what a big deal it would be. It would only be a few thousand at best. Not hundreds of thousands. It wasn't heavily advertised either. I'm confused as to what you're referencing here? You don't think the lack of a country hit would hurt sales, or...? You might be right--obviously the album is selling incredibly well (projected to debut with more than 1.3 million sold, her best yet)--but who's to say it wouldn't have done 1.5 mil if she had a major country hit from it as well? Also, it wasn't heavily advertised? I've seen ads for this album everywhere. To me it seems like it's been one of the most-advertised albums in recent memory. I think he's talking about the Microsoft 99 cent deal. I hadn't heard of it outside of Pulse either, and I doubt she sold that many copies through it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 20:06:49 GMT -5
I'm confused as to what you're referencing here? You don't think the lack of a country hit would hurt sales, or...? You might be right--obviously the album is selling incredibly well (projected to debut with more than 1.3 million sold, her best yet)--but who's to say it wouldn't have done 1.5 mil if she had a major country hit from it as well? Also, it wasn't heavily advertised? I've seen ads for this album everywhere. To me it seems like it's been one of the most-advertised albums in recent memory. I think he's talking about the Microsoft 99 cent deal. I hadn't heard of it outside of Pulse either, and I doubt she sold that many copies through it. Yep, I figured it out (thanks to you and carriekins). It wasn't quoted though and was only referenced with pronouns, so I couldn't figure out what specific thing he was referencing. I went back and edited my post.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 4, 2014 9:15:16 GMT -5
Yes, I was referencing the Microsoft sale (I'm in Apple land so I wouldn't have been a target for that sale anyway).
I don't know if country hits would've helped the album sell even more but certainly a hit on country wouldn't have harmed the album's sales projections.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 15:21:07 GMT -5
I might spin this post and any that follow off into a separate thread, but for now I'll just post here.
Taylor's 1989 album has obviously been hugely successful. I'm wondering, though...does anybody think any of the singles she released (in their original form, without a "country remix") could have been hits at country radio?
I'm a really big fan of Taylor. I generally listen to only country music though, and I'd probably say that traditional country music is my favorite. I'm glad that Taylor has continued to have a lot of success and I'm glad that she and her team released the 1989 singles to pop radio instead of country, because it is obviously a pop album and not a country one (and I prefer that country radio plays country songs, not pop songs). I also like it when artists who want to release pop music (like Taylor did with this album) release it to the proper radio format.
However, with that said, I actually think that "Wildest Dreams" in particular would have made for a great country radio single (in addition to it being a great pop single).
I'm curious what others think -- not just about "Wildest Dreams", but about the 1989 era and whether any of its songs could have worked at country radio.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 26, 2016 15:55:21 GMT -5
"Wildest Dreams" is one of her best songs and I absolutely would've supported that on country radio. I don't think it would've completely fit as it was still more of a pop song, but I think it could've worked if Sam Hunt is doing just fine releasing what he does to country radio. "How You Get the Girl" also struck me as something that would've fit on one of her past albums pretty easily and I could have seen that one being a country hit.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Jan 26, 2016 15:58:59 GMT -5
As someone who never really cared for her music and actively avoided it when she was labeled as "country", I have found that a couple of the new songs I actually like (specifically noting that they are "Pop" songs), with "Style" being the one. I think it anything she had released to radio would've been a smash as the country genre was bending more towards Pop at the time anyways, though I think her timing to move to the Pop format was pretty smart. I think her movement also exposed a glaring hole in Country radio, in that there were only really 3 female artists getting airplay and she probably had half of those plays between the three (others being Carrie and Miranda). I think it opened the door for a lot of new female artists, due to the limited opportunities for airplay females had and her leaving left a big gap (much of which was filled by Miranda, but still). I think it just goes to show that, in this situation, subtraction can be addition in some ways.
Wow, that's a LOT more thought about her career than I'd ever thought I'd have given it lol.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 26, 2016 16:13:18 GMT -5
I think it opened the door for a lot of new female artists, due to the limited opportunities for airplay females had and her leaving left a big gap (much of which was filled by Miranda, but still). I think it just goes to show that, in this situation, subtraction can be addition in some ways. I agree about leaving a gap which may be why radio is being a little (but still only a little) receptive to newer females like Kelsea Ballerini, Cam, and now Maren Morris, but I don't follow the part about Miranda Lambert filling most of that gap though. In the time since Taylor's "Shake It Off" was released (the beginning of the 1989 era, in other words), we've seen Miranda get just 1 Top 10 hit (which was a duet with Carrie Underwood, no less), while Carrie has continued to churn out Top 3 hits with her racking up three in that time frame and now headed for a fourth. So, I don't think Miranda benefited at all from Taylor's gap (in fact, she kinda fell off the past year, though none of it has anything to do with Taylor)... and Carrie probably didn't either, since she's basically continued doing what she always has on the charts.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Jan 26, 2016 16:25:13 GMT -5
I think it opened the door for a lot of new female artists, due to the limited opportunities for airplay females had and her leaving left a big gap (much of which was filled by Miranda, but still). I think it just goes to show that, in this situation, subtraction can be addition in some ways. I agree about leaving a gap which may be why radio is being a little (but still only a little) receptive to newer females like Kelsea Ballerini, Cam, and now Maren Morris, but I don't follow the part about Miranda Lambert filling most of that gap though. In the time since Taylor's "Shake It Off" was released (the beginning of the 1989 era, in other words), we've seen Miranda get just 1 Top 10 hit (which was a duet with Carrie Underwood, no less), while Carrie has continued to churn out Top 3 hits with her racking up three in that time frame and now headed for a fourth. So, I don't think Miranda benefited at all from Taylor's gap (in fact, she kinda fell off the past year, though none of it has anything to do with Taylor)... and Carrie probably didn't either, since she's basically continued doing what she always has on the charts. Well, timeline wise it's a bit murky for me (as I don't listen to a lot of radio), but I guess Miranda became more prominent in the genre since then...could have just been me personally noticing her since Swift was gone. Though, she was winning awards even before, so maybe it's just relative to me lol. Also, with Carrie taking some time off for her pregnancy, I felt Miranda was more in the spotlight...also helps that her and Blake were tabloid fodder forever and especially for Country news outlets.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Jan 26, 2016 18:46:16 GMT -5
"Wildest Dreams" is one of her best songs and I absolutely would've supported that on country radio. I don't think it would've completely fit as it was still more of a pop song, but I think it could've worked if Sam Hunt is doing just fine releasing what he does to country radio. "How You Get the Girl" also struck me as something that would've fit on one of her past albums pretty easily and I could have seen that one being a country hit. I actually just imagined wildest dreams having a country version and thought even without it would've been a good idea. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this before.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Jan 26, 2016 18:55:17 GMT -5
Now I know Taylor is pop now, but since she's taking a break from music for the next few years .If she's comebacks to country at all, cause I'm curious and Taylor said in an interview she doesn't know what's next, but if do y'all think her next project is her greatest hits or album six? That just slipped my mind
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 26, 2016 19:12:07 GMT -5
I might spin this post and any that follow off into a separate thread, but for now I'll just post here. Taylor's 1989 album has obviously been hugely successful. I'm wondering, though...does anybody think any of the singles she released (in their original form, without a "country remix") could have been hits at country radio? I'm a really big fan of Taylor. I generally listen to only country music though, and I'd probably say that traditional country music is my favorite. I'm glad that Taylor has continued to have a lot of success and I'm glad that she and her team released the 1989 singles to pop radio instead of country, because it is obviously a pop album and not a country one (and I prefer that country radio plays country songs, not pop songs). I also like it when artists who want to release pop music (like Taylor did with this album) release it to the proper radio format. However, with that said, I actually think that "Wildest Dreams" in particular would have made for a great country radio single (in addition to it being a great pop single). I'm curious what others think -- not just about "Wildest Dreams", but about the 1989 era and whether any of its songs could have worked at country radio. I've always thought "Clean" would have made a great Country single.
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 26, 2016 19:14:18 GMT -5
Now I know Taylor is pop now, but since she's taking a break from music for the next few years .If she's comebacks to country at all, cause I'm curious and Taylor said in an interview she doesn't know what's next, but if do y'all think her next project is her greatest hits or album six? That just slipped my mind Where has Taylor said she is taking "the next few years" off? I have heard her say he will take the rest of 2016 off but nothing about an extended break that long. I believe the next album will be a Greatest Hits. This is her 10th year so it just makes sense. She could do a double album of 1 Country hits and 1 Pop hits. If she didn't want to include new material she has plenty of "extras" like movie songs or remixes she could throw in there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 19:28:55 GMT -5
I really want her to be back in country even if her music wasn't country really all that much. But given the fact that we had 3 female breakthrough hits from female (Kelsea Ballerini, Jana Kramer, Cam) maybe if Taylor returned maybe they'd have to sacrifice one of the 3 emerging stars (probably Jana Kramer) add in Maren Morris and Cassadee Pope seeing a re emergence if Taylor Swift returned it could get messy.
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Post by someguy on Jan 26, 2016 19:56:12 GMT -5
I think either "Wildest Dreams" or "How You Get The Girl" could have been decent sized hits at country radio. I actually really like her album. It very well might be my favourite of hers.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Jan 26, 2016 21:39:42 GMT -5
Now I know Taylor is pop now, but since she's taking a break from music for the next few years .If she's comebacks to country at all, cause I'm curious and Taylor said in an interview she doesn't know what's next, but if do y'all think her next project is her greatest hits or album six? That just slipped my mind Where has Taylor said she is taking "the next few years" off? I have heard her say he will take the rest of 2016 off but nothing about an extended break that long. I believe the next album will be a Greatest Hits. This is her 10th year so it just makes sense. She could do a double album of 1 Country hits and 1 Pop hits. If she didn't want to include new material she has plenty of "extras" like movie songs or remixes she could throw in there. this one hollywoodlife.com/2015/11/30/taylor-swift-taking-a-break-music-three-years/ And I wish they do what Shania does and do a country and pop disc but apparently it may not work. But I think it could
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Jan 26, 2016 21:43:51 GMT -5
I really want her to be back in country even if her music wasn't country really all that much. But given the fact that we had 3 female breakthrough hits from female (Kelsea Ballerini, Jana Kramer, Cam) maybe if Taylor returned maybe they'd have to sacrifice one of the 3 emerging stars (probably Jana Kramer) add in Maren Morris and Cassadee Pope seeing a re emergence if Taylor Swift returned it could get messy. I wish it didn't have to be few female big stars like everyone could there fair share but country radio isn't going to be like that :( I wish it was the like the 90s where everyone has a chance for breakthrough
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 21:48:41 GMT -5
I really want her to be back in country even if her music wasn't country really all that much. But given the fact that we had 3 female breakthrough hits from female (Kelsea Ballerini, Jana Kramer, Cam) maybe if Taylor returned maybe they'd have to sacrifice one of the 3 emerging stars (probably Jana Kramer) add in Maren Morris and Cassadee Pope seeing a re emergence if Taylor Swift returned it could get messy. I wish it didn't have to be few female big stars like everyone could there fair share but country radio isn't going to be like that :( I wish it was the like the 90s where everyone has a chance for breakthrough There's just way too many artists and overall male artists outweigh female artists just saying
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 22:05:10 GMT -5
Where has Taylor said she is taking "the next few years" off? I have heard her say he will take the rest of 2016 off but nothing about an extended break that long. I believe the next album will be a Greatest Hits. This is her 10th year so it just makes sense. She could do a double album of 1 Country hits and 1 Pop hits. If she didn't want to include new material she has plenty of "extras" like movie songs or remixes she could throw in there. this one hollywoodlife.com/2015/11/30/taylor-swift-taking-a-break-music-three-years/ And I wish they do what Shania does and do a country and pop disc but apparently it may not work. But I think it could Hollywood Life isn't a legitimate source. It's just a celebrity gossip website. This "article" about Taylor only has quotes from "sources". I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor takes a little break after "Out Of The Woods", but I don't think it'll be a years-long break.
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 26, 2016 22:07:22 GMT -5
Hollywood Life isn't a legitimate source. It's just a celebrity gossip website. This "article" about Taylor only has quotes from "sources". I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor takes a little break after "Out Of The Woods", but I don't think it'll be a years-long break. I was about to say the same thing. Hollywood Life is about as credible as The Sun or The Mirror. They are more of a fan fiction site posing as news than anything else.
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Jan 26, 2016 22:41:44 GMT -5
Hollywood Life isn't a legitimate source. It's just a celebrity gossip website. This "article" about Taylor only has quotes from "sources". I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor takes a little break after "Out Of The Woods", but I don't think it'll be a years-long break. I was about to say the same thing. Hollywood Life is about as credible as The Sun or The Mirror. They are more of a fan fiction site posing as news than anything else. Yeah, I've definently learned over the years to not believe anything from Hollywood Life, lol. I do agree with your earlier post though that Clean would make a great country single, and I think This Love would make a great country single as well.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Jan 26, 2016 22:43:09 GMT -5
I was about to say the same thing. Hollywood Life is about as credible as The Sun or The Mirror. They are more of a fan fiction site posing as news than anything else. Yeah, I've definently learned over the years to not believe anything from Hollywood Life, lol. I do agree with your earlier post though that Clean would make a great country single, and I think This Love would make a great country single as well. has she done acoustics for them besides piano on her tour? She needs to do an acoustic album too
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Jan 26, 2016 22:46:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I've definently learned over the years to not believe anything from Hollywood Life, lol. I do agree with your earlier post though that Clean would make a great country single, and I think This Love would make a great country single as well. has she done acoustics for them besides piano on her tour? She needs to do an acoustic album too I looked it up on Google and all I get are acoustic covers, not Taylor herself actually doing the acoustic version.
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Post by tryexp on Jan 29, 2016 8:10:11 GMT -5
has she done acoustics for them besides piano on her tour? She needs to do an acoustic album too I looked it up on Google and all I get are acoustic covers, not Taylor herself actually doing the acoustic version. She did at least "you are in love" and "wonderland" acoustic on tour. The first was included on the apple music live dvd thing, but here is a fan video: Also, wonderland: These are the ones I know about (I didn't really follow this tour as much). There are also a couple of acoustic from the grammys museum special concert:
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