Fergie - "L.A.LOVE (la la)"

[foxxden]

Oct 17, 2014 11:32:25 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

Not everybody is going to get a Taylor Swift sized push so we need to bring our heads from the clouds and into reality.

lmao are you for real? i never even referenced taylor or set those type of promo expectations so please heed ur own advice and come down to earth.

all i was saying is so far no promo for gwen has been announced for next week's debut and if that ends up being the case she is in the same boat as fergie who is also an Interscope artist. expecting the video to debut, 1 promo appearance, or the artist to acknowledge the song is not asking for too much.

[Juanca]

Again
So far I don't think this is doing that awful. It's #69 on iTunes now. Not bad for a song with NO PROMO and low AI. This seems to be having a more organic growth... And a more spaced out promo... Like the old times :)
The label may want to take this approach with more veteran artists trying to have more longevity, instead of the riskier high rise high fall approach.
Lyric video can help increase streams now. Official video for last week of October and then a live performance in early November could maybe help people become familiar with the song, overcome the initial more negative reception and let the song grow to become a hit.

[popbox]

Agree that the more low profile approach may be good for this. What isn't good is that it's absolutely the wrong season for it. It's such a spring/summer sounding jam.

[Az Paynter]

POP:
30 28 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 2628 1780 848 11.126

+78 Spins
-83 Bullet
+0.515 Audience

RHYTHMIC:
37 30 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 1107 791 316 4.754

+48 Spins
+16 Bullet
+0.305 Audience

[Az Paynter]

POP:
29 28 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 2729 1929 800 11.623

+101 Spins
-48 Bullet
+0.497 Audience

RHYTHMIC:
36 28 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 1155 835 320 4.898

+48 Spins
+4 Bullet
+0.144 Audience

[Music Fan]

Video is being shot today:

[Az Paynter]

POP:
28 27 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 2846 2142 704 12.481

+117 Spins
-96 Bullet
+0.858 Audience

RHYTHMIC:
35 25 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 1206 880 326 5.124

+51 Spins
+6 Bullet
+0.226 Audience

[Dammn Baby]

Those shots from the set look dated as fuck, as if nothing about her style has changed in 8 years.

[Glove Slap]

Yeah seriously, they look like outtakes from Glamorous.

[Music Fan]

Promo is starting to kick off, she'll be on Ellen on Thursday. Not sure if she'll be performing, though.

[Az Paynter]

POP:
28 28 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 2927 2237 690 12.769

+81 Spins
-14 Bullet
+0.288 Audience

RHYTHMIC:
34 25 FERGIE L.A.LOVE (La La) 1249 918 331 5.304

+43 Spins
+5 Bullet
+0.180 Audience

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

I just don't get the radio support for this. Sales and streaming are the pits, but it keeps getting First Love esque updates

[Hussy]

The label better scratch this and release the REAL lead single ASAP!!!

[josh]

Oct 21, 2014 6:17:40 GMT -5 YourFaveIsAFlop said:

I just don't get the radio support for this. Sales and streaming are the pits, but it keeps getting First Love esque updates

It doesn't even have 20 million AI. It's #60 on iTunes with 9 new instant grat songs in front of it. In pop bars, all it's doing is going up. I'll give you streaming, but airplay is steadily increasing, which is leading to a steady increase in sales.

[divasummer]

Oct 21, 2014 3:45:29 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Promo is starting to kick off, she'll be on Ellen on Thursday. Not sure if she'll be performing, though.

I hate when singer's go on a show to promote music and not sing.
Why bother? How many more sales to some of these singers think there going to sell by talking about a single?
I know they will play small clips during the show but I hope she just sings the song.

[Rumors]

That picture from the video shoot looks really dated to me. I don't love Gwen's new song either but it does sound more modern than this.

[Deleted]

The lack of push for this is weird. I initially thought it would just serve as a promo single before they really got their s**t together, but the fact that they're putting money into a video? I guess it's starting to take off, though, so who knows what the plan is/was.

It's grown on me a bit, but in a perfect world the rest of the record will be a little more campy. 'Fergalicious' and 'London Bridge' are a lot to live up to, especially since she's not riding on the kind of hype that 'My Humps' gave her as a solo artist right now, but I'm hopeful.

[Keelzit]

Fancy started of similarly.. just saying. ;)

[Linnethia Monique]

Oct 21, 2014 16:00:26 GMT -5 Keelzit said:

Fancy started of similarly.. just saying. ;)

You can't really compare the front woman to one of the biggest groups of all-time who had a major solo era to a relative unknown.

[dbhmr]

Had no idea this was so high on pop radio. If it wasn't for this thread alone (and I guess those various duplicates in the polling booth), I'd have no idea this song even existed. I don't really get this approach.

[Music Fan]

I don't really get the approach either. To me it seems like Interscope was having the same type of approach with Fergie and Gwen; to just let it be. In my opinion it was a "test the waters" kind of thing. I think realizing Fergie's wasn't a hit out of the gate, they put in a bit more of a push for Gwen (obviously the Voice will help), but even then it's pretty non-existent for both... or so it seems. At least "L.A. Love" is climbing and not stalling, so I think that's definitely a great sign for this song. It's inching into iTunes Top 50, and finally in Amazon's Top 100.

[Juanca]

Oct 21, 2014 16:10:46 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

Oct 21, 2014 16:00:26 GMT -5 Keelzit said:

Fancy started of similarly.. just saying. ;)

You can't really compare the front woman to one of the biggest groups of all-time who had a major solo era to a relative unknown.

But Fergie as a solo artist is an unknown to a large percentage of core pop listeners, who were babies or kids during Fergie's solo era.
Iggy had some online buzz, at least one single with decent sales for a non hit, and the news of a collaboration with a hot young chick in town. Not a far-fetched comparison (including the fact that both songs have similar styles)

[Linnethia Monique]

Oct 21, 2014 18:45:02 GMT -5 Juanca said:

Oct 21, 2014 16:10:46 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

You can't really compare the front woman to one of the biggest groups of all-time who had a major solo era to a relative unknown.

But Fergie as a solo artist is an unknown to a large percentage of core pop listeners, who were babies or kids during Fergie's solo era.
Iggy had some online buzz, at least one single with decent sales for a non hit, and the news of a collaboration with a hot young chick in town. Not a far-fetched comparison (including the fact that both songs have similar styles)

Let's be honest, the sales for Work were absolutely abysmal until Fancy came out. It rode that wave to an eventual GOLD certification. Same for streams if we want to go there. Charli XCX didn't really boost the stature of the song either because she was a relative unknown unless you frequent Tumblr and teenage angst forums. BEP is basically a duet between will.i.am and Fergie with Applesauce and Tango dropped in there for added culture. She had an era with 3 #1 singles that spanned 2 years, then got back with BEP and released the biggest song in Digital history with a string of #1s, and a performance at the Super Bowl before payola allowed Katy Perry to somehow mangle her way into that circle. Fergie>>>>Iggy when it comes to levels and I'm a HUGE Iggy fan. The core pop listeners were babies when Justin Timberlake released FS/LS and he didn't struggle. Nelly Furtado did because well... none of her album was too accessible. This is. She worked with one of the hottest producers this year and songwriting duos. My niece is 12 and knows what Fergalicious is... she would be insulted that you feel she is too young to know anything beyond 2010.

Namaste,
Lisping Hibiscus.

[josh]

Oct 21, 2014 19:22:20 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

Applesauce and Tango

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Deleted]

I don't think it's a stretch to assume that this generation wouldn't "get" why Fergie is a phenomenon-- although I agree that she is still a visible artist. It's not about whether or not they know the songs, but were they alive to feel the impact of her singles? The whole of her solo success was arguably triggered by 'My Humps' and propelled into a massive album. And that's factual and I'm sure there are a ton of people who know that these days just like people know Madonna had a massive era at one point in her life, but they're not going to feel that level of hype or really care that she put something out just because she did.

Which, yeah, you still can't compare that with Iggy because she doesn't have any of that-- but Fergie just doesn't have that star power she used to, either. She kind of is having to fight her way onto pop radio like Iggy had to... more or less. I'm sure Fergie has more good will going for her because of the above, though.

[TroublemakerOlly]

Remix feat. YG has just been serviced to radios.

[Juanca]

Oct 21, 2014 19:22:20 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

Oct 21, 2014 18:45:02 GMT -5 Juanca said:

But Fergie as a solo artist is an unknown to a large percentage of core pop listeners, who were babies or kids during Fergie's solo era.
Iggy had some online buzz, at least one single with decent sales for a non hit, and the news of a collaboration with a hot young chick in town. Not a far-fetched comparison (including the fact that both songs have similar styles)

Let's be honest, the sales for Work were absolutely abysmal until Fancy came out. It rode that wave to an eventual GOLD certification. Same for streams if we want to go there. Charli XCX didn't really boost the stature of the song either because she was a relative unknown unless you frequent Tumblr and teenage angst forums. BEP is basically a duet between will.i.am and Fergie with Applesauce and Tango dropped in there for added culture. She had an era with 3 #1 singles that spanned 2 years, then got back with BEP and released the biggest song in Digital history with a string of #1s, and a performance at the Super Bowl before payola allowed Katy Perry to somehow mangle her way into that circle. Fergie>>>>Iggy when it comes to levels and I'm a HUGE Iggy fan. The core pop listeners were babies when Justin Timberlake released FS/LS and he didn't struggle. Nelly Furtado did because well... none of her album was too accessible. This is. She worked with one of the hottest producers this year and songwriting duos. My niece is 12 and knows what Fergalicious is... she would be insulted that you feel she is too young to know anything beyond 2010.

Namaste,
Lisping Hibiscus.

FYI I was not referring to Charli... But ARIANA GRANDE, ie already big in the young demo with her previous album, winning best new artist at the AMAs (voted by the public) and lots of followers. Fancy benefitted from Problem.

Fergie, Gwen, Nelly, Shakira belong to a former class of divas replaced by the new crowd: Katy, Rihanna, Gaga, Taylor, Kesha, even Demi, Selena, etc.
Black eyed peas was not Fergie and even if we stretch that, the last BEP era was not something to be too proud of. One hit, one medium sized hit, and
flops is not that huge.
Fergie's last big era was too long ago for the immediacy of pop music.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Fergie's main gig since 2006 apart from her work with BEP has been to host the West Coast portion of Dick Clark Rockin' New Years Eve, so no, I really don't think the young end of the CHR demo is really that in tune with how big the Dutchess was at the time.

Servicing a rent-a-rapper remix to radio already shows they're flailing. I expect in the next few weeks, we'll start hearing people trying to walk this back as a promo track and that the real first single from the album is coming soon, although I don't think that's what the intention was at all.

[nick64]

Oct 21, 2014 22:24:23 GMT -5 Juanca said:

Fancy benefitted from Problem.

Meh. When "Problem" was released, "Fancy" was already #1 on iTunes and had the third biggest bullet on Pop after "Birthday" and "Sing". It probably helped increase the success of Iggy herself, but "Fancy" was already becoming a huge hit.

[Linnethia Monique]

Oct 21, 2014 22:24:23 GMT -5 Juanca said:

Oct 21, 2014 19:22:20 GMT -5 Linnethia Monique said:

Let's be honest, the sales for Work were absolutely abysmal until Fancy came out. It rode that wave to an eventual GOLD certification. Same for streams if we want to go there. Charli XCX didn't really boost the stature of the song either because she was a relative unknown unless you frequent Tumblr and teenage angst forums. BEP is basically a duet between will.i.am and Fergie with Applesauce and Tango dropped in there for added culture. She had an era with 3 #1 singles that spanned 2 years, then got back with BEP and released the biggest song in Digital history with a string of #1s, and a performance at the Super Bowl before payola allowed Katy Perry to somehow mangle her way into that circle. Fergie>>>>Iggy when it comes to levels and I'm a HUGE Iggy fan. The core pop listeners were babies when Justin Timberlake released FS/LS and he didn't struggle. Nelly Furtado did because well... none of her album was too accessible. This is. She worked with one of the hottest producers this year and songwriting duos. My niece is 12 and knows what Fergalicious is... she would be insulted that you feel she is too young to know anything beyond 2010.

Namaste,
Lisping Hibiscus.

FYI I was not referring to Charli... But ARIANA GRANDE, ie already big in the young demo with her previous album, winning best new artist at the AMAs (voted by the public) and lots of followers. Fancy benefitted from Problem.

Fergie, Gwen, Nelly, Shakira belong to a former class of divas replaced by the new crowd: Katy, Rihanna, Gaga, Taylor, Kesha, even Demi, Selena, etc.
Black eyed peas was not Fergie and even if we stretch that, the last BEP era was not something to be too proud of. One hit, one medium sized hit, and
flops is not that huge.
Fergie's last big era was too long ago for the immediacy of pop music.

An era that spanned 2 albums released within a year of each other that produced 3 #1s, a total of 7 Top 10 hits, over 20+ million in digital singles, and over 14 million in album sales wasn't an era to be proud of?! Also a headlining gig at the Super Bowl... ooookay. Also how did Fancy benefit from Problem? One was already a Top 5 hit and having massive spin gains and digital gains before the other song was even known. Fancy benefited from a great video that went viral, an SNL skit, Jimmy Fallon Lip-Synching to it and various other factors.