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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Mar 30, 2015 10:48:50 GMT -5
While I fully expect Jana to take the day with most adds plus her 20 early adds, I'm hoping Casey has a good showing. Nervous!!!! I'm nervous too!!! I agree, I think jana will get a lot of adds but I also think Casey has a good shot too. Let's remain hopeful... :)
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Post by blueguitar on Mar 30, 2015 11:03:26 GMT -5
Jana's team has done a great job with promo. I think she will get a LOT of adds this week. Hoping that stations logging in to report their adds for her will pick up CJ too. Fingers crossed for both of them. I love Jana's song. It's my second favorite one going for adds today! ;p
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 30, 2015 11:06:31 GMT -5
Jana's team has done a great job with promo. I think she will get a LOT of adds this week. Hoping that stations logging in to report their adds for her will pick up CJ too. Fingers crossed for both of them. I love Jana's song. It's my second favorite one going for adds today! ;p Don't sleep on Brothers Osborne and Chase Bryant today as well. I actually like this add day, as no "superstars" are there to automatically garner the most adds. Should be interesting. Columbia has done all they could to make this successful for Casey though.
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Post by blueguitar on Mar 30, 2015 11:15:31 GMT -5
You are right. BO and Chase both have great songs going for adds. I like them both a lot. We definitely cannot count them out! While I don't expect Casey to beat out Jana, I'm really hoping he comes in at a strong 2nd place. With all the drama at Sony and Casey having been Gary Overton's first signing with them, he's got a lot riding on this single!!!
All that being said I would agree Sony has set him up pretty good for today and this new era. Fingers crossed!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 14:26:05 GMT -5
I'm actually expecting Brothers Osborne to be most added today. Jana might have the most "total adds" if you count the stations that have added her song over the last few weeks, but as far as new adds that'll get reported today, I think Brothers Osborne might come out on top. With that said, I think both Casey and Chase will do quite well also.
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Post by blueguitar on Mar 30, 2015 15:03:35 GMT -5
Looks like you were right. They got 42. Hoping for 20+ at this point. Fingers crossed.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 30, 2015 17:05:29 GMT -5
Looks like you were right. They got 42. Hoping for 20+ at this point. Fingers crossed. He got 37 with 40 Total on release week. :) roughstock.com/?p=33913
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 30, 2015 18:12:47 GMT -5
Looks like you were right. They got 42. Hoping for 20+ at this point. Fingers crossed. He got 37 with 40 Total on release week. :) roughstock.com/?p=33913Wow. I never brag but I was literally off by one with both Casey and Jana, while I was just three off from Chase (I predicted 32 for him). :)
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Post by blueguitar on Mar 30, 2015 18:34:52 GMT -5
Nice job! I'm pleased with 40 total adds! I hope they can keep the promo going!!! I'm really interested in who has added it!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 21:34:37 GMT -5
Crazy there's no ad for Casey. Jana and Chase have ads and Brothers Osborne were the banner page for the Aircheck Weekly email. Hmm. Probably doesn't mean much. They do have an ad for this one running in the daily Aircheck emails this week.
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Post by blueguitar on Apr 13, 2015 18:15:30 GMT -5
Well, this seemed to be moving along given how crowded and insane the chart is from #40-#70. Its is up to 61 from 64 with over 1.2m in AI. Then..... the adds come out today and there are NONE for this song!!! While Chase, Jana and Brothers Osborne (who all went for adds with Casey 2 weeks ago) got a fair amount. I know it's just one add date, but should we continue to see promo for this? It's very odd to get zero adds. I had expected at least a few. Casey is one of the artists I was worried about with Gary Overton leaving Sony. I hope they aren't planning on cleaning house.
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 13, 2015 19:09:46 GMT -5
Well, this seemed to be moving along given how crowded and insane the chart is from #40-#70. Its is up to 61 from 64 with over 1.2m in AI. Then..... the adds come out today and there are NONE for this song!!! While Chase, Jana and Brothers Osborne (who all went for adds with Casey 2 weeks ago) got a fair amount. I know it's just one add date, but should we continue to see promo for this? It's very odd to get zero adds. I had expected at least a few. Casey is one of the artists I was worried about with Gary Overton leaving Sony. I hope they aren't planning on cleaning house. It's just so cluttered. It'll be a slow build, like it ALWAYS was gonna be.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 22:17:23 GMT -5
The lack of adds today is a bit concerning, but at least this managed to stay in the Billboard top 60. It climbed one spot from 59-58 tonight, with a gain of 270k in audience. Casey was able to pass RaeLynn and Waterloo Revival (and RaeLynn actually got pushed out of the top 60), and Casey was able to gain on several other artists in the 50's, including Ashley Monroe, LoCash, Cam, Montgomery Gentry, and Austin Webb.
This one's definitely got a long road ahead of it, but it at least made it onto the chart unlike Chase Bryant and Logan Mize. To be fair, Logan did sneak on at #60 for a week but otherwise he's been stuck on the outside looking in.
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Post by blueguitar on Apr 14, 2015 12:02:41 GMT -5
Thanks jhomes87 for the feedback! While there are SO many artists trying to chart, it seems like part of the problem is really long chart runs. Some labels just hang on FOREVER! I cringe when I see Joe Nichols "Hard to be Cool" loitering at #22 and having been on the chart for 208 days. (sorry Joe) Why??? There are a handful of others hanging around in the teens and 20's and not really going anywhere. That is really frustrating when all of these other new songs are treading water. Maybe I am way off base, but its torture when all these songs have been sitting there forever, not gaining much and going day by day with having and not having a bullet. Just barely scraping by. I know it's going to take a while for this song and its only been two weeks. But there are others down in the 40's-60's really struggling to move that have been out much longer. I don't know if it is radio or the labels, but at some point isn't it time to move on from a song before 200+ days? I know I am over a song WAY before that amount of time.
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Post by Connor Walsh on Apr 16, 2015 2:06:57 GMT -5
It's not his best, or as great as COAS was, but it's good for a radio hit , at least top10. That said, if Casey doesn't get OTV, it will be a slow climb like everything on the charts right now.
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Post by blueguitar on Apr 20, 2015 17:42:51 GMT -5
Well, after a big goose egg last week I am glad to see 5 adds this week. I wish it was more. It's going to be hard for him to keep up the momentum if he can't pick up more that 5/week in the coming weeks. But as everyone says, it's going to be a slow climb if this does end up catching on.
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Post by blueguitar on May 4, 2015 17:06:18 GMT -5
Hmph. Only 1 add today. Wonder if this will ever pick up steam. Just a few last week and 0 the week before. The chart is just swamped right now. And with all the big hitters going one after the other there's just no room. Lee Brice's single dropped already today and this just his first bulletless week. He won't go recurrent until 5/18. ZBB did the same along with all the other big names. It's pretty frustrating to see 2 songs from the same artist on the chart at the same time. Sigh...
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Post by rsmatto on May 4, 2015 19:29:21 GMT -5
Hmph. Only 1 add today. Wonder if this will ever pick up steam. Just a few last week and 0 the week before. The chart is just swamped right now. And with all the big hitters going one after the other there's just no room. Lee Brice's single dropped already today and this just his first bulletless week. He won't go recurrent until 5/18. ZBB did the same along with all the other big names. It's pretty frustrating to see 2 songs from the same artist on the chart at the same time. Sigh... It has the same problem Logan Mize is having. Lots of traffic on the clogged charts.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 19:48:42 GMT -5
Hmph. Only 1 add today. Wonder if this will ever pick up steam. Just a few last week and 0 the week before. The chart is just swamped right now. And with all the big hitters going one after the other there's just no room. Lee Brice's single dropped already today and this just his first bulletless week. He won't go recurrent until 5/18. ZBB did the same along with all the other big names. It's pretty frustrating to see 2 songs from the same artist on the chart at the same time. Sigh... Lee Brice will go recurrent on Billboard a week from tonight.
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Post by blueguitar on May 11, 2015 16:48:00 GMT -5
1 add in 3 weeks isn't gonna cut it. I'm guessing Sony is pulling this song and possibly dropping Casey. :(
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Post by sabre14 on May 11, 2015 17:05:17 GMT -5
1 add in 3 weeks isn't gonna cut it. I'm guessing Sony is pulling this song and possibly dropping Casey. :( I still think we have a little time before Casey or anybody with Sony gets dropped, though I'm sure there will be some turnover with the labels rosters over the next 3-5 months. In terms of "Fall Apart", it's just been horrible timing for Casey and other "newer" artists latest singles (Logan, RaeLynn, Cam, Ashley, etc.). Like I said there's always casualties when there's this many higher profile singles being released in such a short amount of time. It's only been six weeks since "Fall Apart" went for adds and this single's launch was in the works for what seems like forever, so I think they might stick with this a couple more weeks but it's certainly not looking promising.
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Post by blueguitar on May 11, 2015 17:15:55 GMT -5
1 add in 3 weeks isn't gonna cut it. I'm guessing Sony is pulling this song and possibly dropping Casey. :( I still think we have a little time before Casey or anybody with Sony gets dropped, though I'm sure there will be some turnover with the labels rosters over the next 3-5 months. In terms of "Fall Apart", it's just been horrible timing for Casey and other "newer" artists latest singles (Logan, RaeLynn, Cam, Ashley, etc.). Like I said there's always casualties when there's this many higher profile singles being released in such a short amount of time. It's only been six weeks since "Fall Apart" went for adds and this single's launch was in the works for what seems like forever, so I think they might stick with this a couple more weeks but it's certainly not looking promising. I agree. I just came back here to look at those artists you mention above and see when they all went for adds.. They have all been out for about the same amount of time as Fall Apart and they all have a similar number of adds. They are just hovering there. I am definitely ready to see if the label tries any promo in the next couple of weeks. I guess it's also noteworthy that his labelmate, Chase Rice, new single took almost 3 months to chart.
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Post by sabre14 on May 11, 2015 17:28:15 GMT -5
I still think we have a little time before Casey or anybody with Sony gets dropped, though I'm sure there will be some turnover with the labels rosters over the next 3-5 months. In terms of "Fall Apart", it's just been horrible timing for Casey and other "newer" artists latest singles (Logan, RaeLynn, Cam, Ashley, etc.). Like I said there's always casualties when there's this many higher profile singles being released in such a short amount of time. It's only been six weeks since "Fall Apart" went for adds and this single's launch was in the works for what seems like forever, so I think they might stick with this a couple more weeks but it's certainly not looking promising. I agree. I just came back here to look at those artists you mention above and see when they all went for adds.. They have all been out for about the same amount of time as Fall Apart and they all have a similar number of adds. They are just hovering there. I am definitely ready to see if the label tries any promo in the next couple of weeks. I guess it's also noteworthy that his labelmate, Chase Rice, new single took almost 3 months to chart. Chase's single took about two months to crack the MB top 55 (released in November, made its first appearance in the top 55 in January). The slow start for "Gonna Wanna Tonight" is still a optimistic reference though, for sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 0:52:56 GMT -5
1 add in 3 weeks isn't gonna cut it. I'm guessing Sony is pulling this song and possibly dropping Casey. :( Nah, Casey's not in trouble yet. There are simply, like, two dozen songs near the bottom of the chart that are all just moving slowly because we've seen so many high profile releases lately (and more are on the way yet). This song will inch its way up the chart very slowly, but so far I think it's doing fine--not good, but fine...or at least it's doing about what I expected it to. Looking at the chart and the songs ahead of Casey, I'm not surprised that this one is sitting in the 50's. There's no way it was gonna go up ahead of a lot of those other releases, many of which have labored just as much (if not more than) as "Fall Apart" has. Let's give this one another 4-6 weeks or so. It could be that it sputters out and disappears quietly...or it could gain little by little and slowly gain traction. With newer artists like this, it's just impossible to tell how their songs will do after just the first few weeks. Need to give it a little time yet :)
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Post by blueguitar on May 13, 2015 12:50:42 GMT -5
1 add in 3 weeks isn't gonna cut it. I'm guessing Sony is pulling this song and possibly dropping Casey. :( Nah, Casey's not in trouble yet. There are simply, like, two dozen songs near the bottom of the chart that are all just moving slowly because we've seen so many high profile releases lately (and more are on the way yet). This song will inch its way up the chart very slowly, but so far I think it's doing fine--not good, but fine...or at least it's doing about what I expected it to. Looking at the chart and the songs ahead of Casey, I'm not surprised that this one is sitting in the 50's. There's no way it was gonna go up ahead of a lot of those other releases, many of which have labored just as much (if not more than) as "Fall Apart" has. Let's give this one another 4-6 weeks or so. It could be that it sputters out and disappears quietly...or it could gain little by little and slowly gain traction. With newer artists like this, it's just impossible to tell how their songs will do after just the first few weeks. Need to give it a little time yet :) He gained 2 spots to #54 this week on Billboard County Airplay so he is making small gains. I guess we can't really expect more than that right now. Labelmate Tyler Farr finally hit #1 on MB so maybe they will try to give Casey a little push after they are done with the TF song.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on May 13, 2015 18:28:20 GMT -5
Also normally this would be in the 40's already if the chart wasn't so clogged, I'm sure Sony and other labels are noticing that the audience level is high and are adjusting their expectations a bit. I'm not worried for this yet, if it's still not top 50 by mid-june then for sure it's not going anywhere.
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Post by blueguitar on May 28, 2015 21:38:54 GMT -5
So, I'm not really all that tuned in with the Billboard rules for recurrents. Question: Will this be sent recurrent on Monday? It has been out since 3/30 and had had 2 bulletless weeks in a row while loitering in the mid 50's. There really does not seem to be any promo either.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:29:13 GMT -5
So, I'm not really all that tuned in with the Billboard rules for recurrents. Question: Will this be sent recurrent on Monday? It has been out since 3/30 and had had 2 bulletless weeks in a row while loitering in the mid 50's. There really does not seem to be any promo either. I'm worried that this may in fact go recurrent on Monday. Billboard's rule is that songs that are without a bullet for 3 weeks in a row will be sent recurrent (it's the same on Mediabase as well). So, Casey needs to re-bullet, or he'll be gone. The main reason that I'm worried is because Columbia put out an ad in Tuesday night's Aircheck Weekly, and the ad was for Chase Rice's "Gonna Wanna Tonight", Kenny Chesney's "Wild Child", and Tyler Farr's "Withdrawals". In past ads from the label, they included "Fall Apart" in addition to the other Columbia-promoted singles. So in that sense, I suppose you could say that there wasn't any promo, but most of the time when people say that, I don't really get what they mean. Casey visited radio stations, the label has been working the song to radio, they gave the song a video, and there have been advertisements from time to time. That's typical promo for ANY song. The problem, as I (and others) have been saying for months now, is that there are about 100 artists all trying to chart at the same time right now, and when all the A-listers have music out at the same time, the remaining slice of airplay pie left for someone like Casey (who is essentially a brand new artist with no momentum) is almost non-existent. I had hoped that this one would eventually slip through the cracks and make it into the 20's and then catch on from there (like we've seen with Tyler Farr, Kelsea Ballerini, and Canaan Smith), but things aren't looking good. Casey needs to re-bullet on Monday or "Fall Apart" is probably done, unfortunately.
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Post by blueguitar on May 29, 2015 9:56:23 GMT -5
Thanks jhomes87 for the detailed response. I thought the rules were a little different on BB, but I guess not. As for the promo, they seemed to do everything they could to set this up for success, but a few weeks in they started leaving him off their ads and he stopped getting adds. Just like you mention above. Looking at his leaders and starters on All Access, I would say this will not regain its bullet. Dunzo. It just leaves me wondering what they do with Casey now. I do think he needs to find better music. The new Tyler Farr song is pretty much the exact same story as FA, but is miiiiiles better in terms of lyrics, musicality, production. Well, pretty much everything. From all of Casey's new songs I have heard, I am not sure if he has anything that will fare any better than this. Unless he has something up his sleeve we have not heard. That being said, who knows if Sony will even keep him on their roster. He may not get another chance with a different song as this point. And no album release. Ugh! The part that makes it even worse is that there are finally a bunch of other songs going recurrent Monday and likely in the weeks to come. It would be a good chance to finally hit top 50. I just can't see this song pulling it off. Edit: I've been looking at his leaders and it looks like some of them are going up in AI. Maybe he can pull it off. Hopefully, the label working behind the scenes has something to do with this. Could be a good window of time for him to make some gains with all the possible upcoming recurrents listed in the Billboard Predictions thread. He is going to needs some adds if this song has the chance to grow. :O
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Post by sabre14 on May 29, 2015 13:22:08 GMT -5
Edit: I've been looking at his leaders and it looks like some of them are going up in AI. Maybe he can pull it off. Hopefully, the label working behind the scenes has something to do with this. Could be a good window of time for him to make some gains with all the possible upcoming recurrents listed in the Billboard Predictions thread. He is going to needs some adds if this song has the chance to grow. :O The problem is that most of the stations spinning "Fall Apart" are allocating its spins to the overnight hours - hence the substandard audience impressions. Eight of the top nine leaders for "Fall Apart" are helping out with daytime spins but the rest are all overnight; most of them being nothing but overnight spins. The good news is that two of the leaders for "Fall Apart" are KKBQ in Houston and KSON in Dallas. Combined, both have over 600k of Casey's audience. Like you mentioned, the top six spin leaders have increased "Fall Apart's" spins the past seven days, so there definitely is some optimism for Casey re-bulleting. The overall picture though is still bleak. Casey needs adds. Like pronto. Without that, "Fall Apart' won't be doing much of anything anyway.
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