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Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 14, 2016 21:19:01 GMT -5
FINALLY!!! Sneaks in at #49 for Mediabase!!!!
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 14, 2016 21:21:07 GMT -5
FINALLY!!! Sneaks in at #49 for Mediabase!!!! Three recurrents and no immediate danger behind it was the reason it snuck into the #49 position.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 21:25:21 GMT -5
Better enjoy it while you can Love & Theft won't last much longer as they lost more audience this week and it'll take one more bad week for bye-bye land. What this song has achieved is astonishing but I think it's time to let it go.
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Post by someguy on Feb 14, 2016 23:21:32 GMT -5
Glad to see this making the top 50 on Mediabase. I agree, I think it has peaked, but it's accomplished so much more than I thought it would.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 17:09:27 GMT -5
Unfortunately the end of the road is finally here for "Whiskey On My Breath". "Whiskey On My Breath", "Red, White & You" and "I Met A Girl" (BDS is showing William without a bullet so it's best to take their word for it) to re-bullet on BB and the audience losses this week have heavily implied that at least two of the three won't, with "Whiskey On My Breath" being the most likely to leave.
What this song has accomplished is astonishing and it's a song that despite not doing all that well on radio I think this will be remembered down the road. I just don't think Sony (that's who Love & Theft were signed with before getting dropped) would have ever released this as a single for these guys and I think them going independent was in my opinion one of the best choices they could've made.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 21, 2016 19:09:46 GMT -5
Unfortunately the end of the road is finally here for "Whiskey On My Breath". "Whiskey On My Breath", "Red, White & You" and "I Met A Girl" (BDS is showing William without a bullet so it's best to take their word for it) to re-bullet on BB and the audience losses this week have heavily implied that at least two of the three won't, with "Whiskey On My Breath" being the most likely to leave. What this song has accomplished is astonishing and it's a song that despite not doing all that well on radio I think this will be remembered down the road. I just don't think Sony (that's who Love & Theft were signed with before getting dropped) would have ever released this as a single for these guys and I think them going independent was in my opinion one of the best choices they could've made. Maybe it'll be remembered down the road by people on Pulse, but that's a very limited scope. Not that many people heard it on the radio and even fewer will "remember" it. Also, they didn't really make the decision to go independent. I'm sure they'd still be on a bigger label if they had the option to, but this was probably their safest best since I don't see a big likelihood of them getting picked up by anyone else at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 19:20:03 GMT -5
Unfortunately the end of the road is finally here for "Whiskey On My Breath". "Whiskey On My Breath", "Red, White & You" and "I Met A Girl" (BDS is showing William without a bullet so it's best to take their word for it) to re-bullet on BB and the audience losses this week have heavily implied that at least two of the three won't, with "Whiskey On My Breath" being the most likely to leave. What this song has accomplished is astonishing and it's a song that despite not doing all that well on radio I think this will be remembered down the road. I just don't think Sony (that's who Love & Theft were signed with before getting dropped) would have ever released this as a single for these guys and I think them going independent was in my opinion one of the best choices they could've made. Maybe it'll be remembered down the road by people on Pulse, but that's a very limited scope. Not that many people heard it on the radio and even fewer will "remember" it. Also, they didn't really make the decision to go independent. I'm sure they'd still be on a bigger label if they had the option to, but this was probably their safest best since I don't see a big likelihood of them getting picked up by anyone else at this point. I think the Bobby Bones exposure that it got will help this one get remembered. I did forget about the fact they were dropped but I doubt Love & Theft wanted on a major label judging by some of the interviews I've read and I honestly think good for them for making music that they wanted and not some big major label hedge honcho. It's why I like what Big & Rich did and them being independent artists.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 21, 2016 19:27:57 GMT -5
Maybe it'll be remembered down the road by people on Pulse, but that's a very limited scope. Not that many people heard it on the radio and even fewer will "remember" it. Also, they didn't really make the decision to go independent. I'm sure they'd still be on a bigger label if they had the option to, but this was probably their safest best since I don't see a big likelihood of them getting picked up by anyone else at this point. I think the Bobby Bones exposure that it got will help this one get remembered. I did forget about the fact they were dropped but I doubt Love & Theft wanted on a major label judging by some of the interviews I've read and I honestly think good for them for making music that they wanted and not some big major label hedge honcho. It's why I like what Big & Rich did and them being independent artists. 1. Nah, the people who heard it on Bobby Bones show aren't going to be thinking about this in a year's time. It's not like when "Buy Me a Boat" got played on his show and was catapulted into being a hit. People in the general public are nothing like the people on this forum, and this song just wasn't big enough on radio for it to be remembered by hardly anyone. 2. You actually didn't, because you said in your first post that they were dropped, but then you followed it by saying they chose to go independent. They didn't really have a choice is all I'm saying, since they lost their major label deal and all they have to show for their career so far is one big hit and another minor one (that's already pretty forgotten), and the rest of their singles have been unsuccessful, so not exactly a winning track record to get another label too interested.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 19:35:04 GMT -5
I think the Bobby Bones exposure that it got will help this one get remembered. I did forget about the fact they were dropped but I doubt Love & Theft wanted on a major label judging by some of the interviews I've read and I honestly think good for them for making music that they wanted and not some big major label hedge honcho. It's why I like what Big & Rich did and them being independent artists. 1. Nah, the people who heard it on Bobby Bones show aren't going to be thinking about this in a year's time. It's not like when "Buy Me a Boat" got played on his show and was catapulted into being a hit. People in the general public are nothing like the people on this forum, and this song just wasn't big enough on radio for it to be remembered by hardly anyone. 2. You actually didn't, because you said in your first post that they were dropped, but then you followed it by saying they chose to go independent. They didn't really have a choice is all I'm saying, since they lost their major label deal and all they have to show for their career so far is one big hit and another minor one (that's already pretty forgotten), and the rest of their singles have been unsuccessful, so not exactly a winning track record to get another label too interested. 1. I don't think it'll be Buy Me A Boat but I imagine it'll be decently remembered since it had the whole Bobby Bones thing that had them get #2 on iTunes Country. 2. Ok a slight mistyping on my part sheesh a slight loss of thought! I just imagine that when they were dropped they decided to just stay independent due to how Sony apparently treated them. I could've see a label being somewhat intrested not exactly willing to sign right away, but intrigued nonetheless.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 21, 2016 19:41:14 GMT -5
1. Nah, the people who heard it on Bobby Bones show aren't going to be thinking about this in a year's time. It's not like when "Buy Me a Boat" got played on his show and was catapulted into being a hit. People in the general public are nothing like the people on this forum, and this song just wasn't big enough on radio for it to be remembered by hardly anyone. 2. You actually didn't, because you said in your first post that they were dropped, but then you followed it by saying they chose to go independent. They didn't really have a choice is all I'm saying, since they lost their major label deal and all they have to show for their career so far is one big hit and another minor one (that's already pretty forgotten), and the rest of their singles have been unsuccessful, so not exactly a winning track record to get another label too interested. I just imagine that when they were dropped they decided to just stay independent due to how Sony apparently treated them. I could've see a label being somewhat intrested not exactly willing to sign right away, but intrigued nonetheless. When Love and Theft were dropped by Sony, they released this independent album immediately after because they wanted to get new music out to their fans as quickly as possible. We don't know if any other label showed interest in them since then but it's very likely they would accept a big label deal if they were offered and the label believed in their music style. And no, most radio listening fans of this genre will not remember "Whiskey On My Breath" down the road. Only core fans of Love and Theft and some folks like us but we're a very small percentage of fans.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 17, 2016 8:10:45 GMT -5
Curb Records re-sent "Whiskey On My Breath" to Country radio through Play MPe yesterday. They sent two tracks, so I don't know how each version is different from one another. I guess this song's push isn't quite through yet...
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Post by someguy on Mar 17, 2016 8:45:55 GMT -5
Curb Records re-sent "Whiskey On My Breath" to Country radio through Play MPe yesterday. They sent two tracks, so I don't know how each version is different from one another. I guess this song's push isn't quite through yet... As much as I like this song, I'm a little disappointed by this. I can't help think that it would have been in their best interest to push a new single.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 17, 2016 9:03:03 GMT -5
Curb Records re-sent "Whiskey On My Breath" to Country radio through Play MPe yesterday. They sent two tracks, so I don't know how each version is different from one another. I guess this song's push isn't quite through yet... There's a sub 3 minute edit and a 4 minute radio edit. Also they've added loopy kick drums (or mixed it higher). It's less acoustic than it was.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 17, 2016 9:19:18 GMT -5
Curb Records re-sent "Whiskey On My Breath" to Country radio through Play MPe yesterday. They sent two tracks, so I don't know how each version is different from one another. I guess this song's push isn't quite through yet... Also they've added loopy kick drums (or mixed it higher). It's less acoustic than it was.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 17, 2016 11:52:37 GMT -5
Oh wow, re-releasing this was something that I thought would be a good idea (I expressed this just the other day in another thread), but I wasn't really expecting it to actually happen. This clearly was connecting quite well considering how it did without solid label backing (strong sales, almost made Top 40), so I think any record label could clearly see some potential in this one. I don't know how far Curb will be able to get it or if it'll truly turn into a "hit," but I can see this one out-peaking their last three singles.
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Post by someguy on Mar 18, 2016 1:38:05 GMT -5
It's burned through so much time, though. It stands to reason that stations that have already been playing it for a year are the most 'Love & Theft friendly' stations out there, and I would expect them to be the most receptive to keep playing L&T music in the future. To send the same song back to them, no matter how good it is, doesn't seem like a sound strategy to me. I hope I'm wrong, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 10:14:14 GMT -5
It's burned through so much time, though. It stands to reason that stations that have already been playing it for a year are the most 'Love & Theft friendly' stations out there, and I would expect them to be the most receptive to keep playing L&T music in the future. To send the same song back to them, no matter how good it is, doesn't seem like a sound strategy to me. I hope I'm wrong, though. This song's gotten such minimal exposure though. Even the few stations that have played it never gave it a lot of airplay. I can't imagine that too many stations have even played this 200-300 times total, which isn't very much at all. Even after the Bobby Bones airplay gave the song a bit of a spike, it still only made the mid 40s on Billboard. Most stations probably averaged 7-10 spins a week on this one, and I feel that the casual listener probably isn't even aware that it was a single.
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Post by robenglund on Mar 18, 2016 18:16:00 GMT -5
I just listened to it on AllAccess. Both versions are the same instrumentally it's just the length of the song is different. I kind of enjoy the new mix actually. It's just that it sounds so much different than the original haha. The drum loops, and I believe I heard some real drums in there too, make it very radio friendly which was probably the purpose of adding those. Will be interesting to see what this nearly year and a half old song can accomplish now that it is being promoted by a major Nashville label.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 18, 2016 18:22:05 GMT -5
It's burned through so much time, though. It stands to reason that stations that have already been playing it for a year are the most 'Love & Theft friendly' stations out there, and I would expect them to be the most receptive to keep playing L&T music in the future. To send the same song back to them, no matter how good it is, doesn't seem like a sound strategy to me. I hope I'm wrong, though. This song's gotten such minimal exposure though. Even the few stations that have played it never gave it a lot of airplay. I can't imagine that too many stations have even played this 200-300 times total, which isn't very much at all. Even after the Bobby Bones airplay gave the song a bit of a spike, it still only made the mid 40s on Billboard. Most stations probably averaged 7-10 spins a week on this one, and I feel that the casual listener probably isn't even aware that it was a single. This is why I think re-releasing this seems like a really good idea. I mean, why not? It seemed obvious there was some untapped potentially there with this that couldn't be fulfilled by their present situation that could now possibly become realized by them having a proper record label backing now... even if it is just Curb Records, lol. It has been out for what feels like forever, but it really hasn't done enough to make it seem like a bad idea to keep trying imo. It's gonna be an uphill battle to get these guys a hit at this point and Curb doesn't exactly have a strong track record of breaking new or even semi-established artists as of late to much success, so I think piggybacking off the initial buzz over "Whiskey on My Breath" could be a nice little boost.
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Post by someguy on Mar 18, 2016 22:52:45 GMT -5
This song's gotten such minimal exposure though. Even the few stations that have played it never gave it a lot of airplay. I can't imagine that too many stations have even played this 200-300 times total, which isn't very much at all. Even after the Bobby Bones airplay gave the song a bit of a spike, it still only made the mid 40s on Billboard. Most stations probably averaged 7-10 spins a week on this one, and I feel that the casual listener probably isn't even aware that it was a single. [This is why I think re-releasing this seems like a really good idea. I mean, why not? It seemed obvious there was some untapped potentially there with this that couldn't be fulfilled by their present situation that could now possibly become realized by them having a proper record label backing now... even if it is just Curb Records, lol. It has been out for what feels like forever, but it really hasn't done enough to make it seem like a bad idea to keep trying imo. It's gonna be an uphill battle to get these guys a hit at this point and Curb doesn't exactly have a strong track record of breaking new or even semi-established artists as of late to much success, so I think piggybacking off the initial buzz over "Whiskey on My Breath" could be a nice little boost. Those are both really good points. It's probably just that I'm personal tired of it after playing it for the last year or so as their single, but I can easily fix that situation for myself ;)
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 18, 2016 23:17:01 GMT -5
Even though this has reached limited exposure on mainstream terrestrial radio, sometimes that doesn't matter to radio people. I've heard so many times that radio PD's won't touch anything that's a year old or over simply because they've been exposed to it for so long. Sure, the listeners aren't exposed to it but all of radio has known for a year and a half about "Whiskey On My Breath" and they might selfishly shy away from it, even with Curb picking up promotion.
I distinctively remember that being a major reason why "When It Rains" by Eli Young Band never took off beyond the top 35. Radio had seen three add dates and the song, plus it was in their inbox for months and when Universal/Republic picked up promotion, it was a hard sell to get stations to buy in. It wasn't until the next single ("Always The Love Songs") that radio finally embraced EYB, and a main factor was because it was brand new material.
I couldn't agree more that it matters more what most listeners think (not radio employees) but sometimes it's that short-minded thinking that helps sinks songs. The age of this one is going to hurt it. A different mix is a decision by Curb because they know the song's age is a hindrance and a slight variation in the track is some incentive.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 21, 2016 10:14:02 GMT -5
This is the new cover art Curb sent out for " Whiskey On My Breath."
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 22, 2016 17:43:39 GMT -5
So, one of the new "radio mixes" for "Whiskey On My Breath" sent out by Curb is under 3 minutes long, according to this ad in Country Aircheck's email this afternoon. The new mix can be heard on All Access. They also have the 3 minute edited version. I really dislike the new radio mix. I mean, I don't think it's "bad" but the acoustics is what made this song special to me and the new mix (while being more tempo/radio-friendly) doesn't do it for me.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 23, 2016 11:02:52 GMT -5
So, one of the new "radio mixes" for "Whiskey On My Breath" sent out by Curb is under 3 minutes long, according to this ad in Country Aircheck's email this afternoon. The new mix can be heard on All Access. They also have the 3 minute edited version. I really dislike the new radio mix. I mean, I don't think it's "bad" but the acoustics is what made this song special to me and the new mix (while being more tempo/radio-friendly) doesn't do it for me. I did say that above about the shorter mix.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 23, 2016 11:06:02 GMT -5
So, one of the new "radio mixes" for "Whiskey On My Breath" sent out by Curb is under 3 minutes long, according to this ad in Country Aircheck's email this afternoon. The new mix can be heard on All Access. They also have the 3 minute edited version. I really dislike the new radio mix. I mean, I don't think it's "bad" but the acoustics is what made this song special to me and the new mix (while being more tempo/radio-friendly) doesn't do it for me. I did say that above about the shorter mix. I know but that was before I heard it.
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Post by kw9461 on Mar 28, 2016 21:42:06 GMT -5
Wow, just listened to the "new mix" of this song, and they absolutely destroyed a great song. Those kick drums aren't just unnecessary, they actively take away from the melody and overall mood of the song. The most effective part of the song was how the voices soared above the production on the chorus, providing a great contrast. That's now gone and we get monotonous drums that make the song sound less dark. What a waste of a great song.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 25, 2016 10:26:34 GMT -5
This one lost 94 spins and fell five spots to #66 on Mediabase this week. Curb will/has let this one go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 14:02:22 GMT -5
This one lost 94 spins and fell five spots to #66 on Mediabase this week. Curb will/has let this one go. I'm really not sure what Curb has been doing with this one. I mean, this song had already been recurrent for several weeks when they signed Love and Theft, but Curb started putting ads in the daily Aircheck emails anyway. I thought, "Okay, I can see why they're doing this. They'll probably give it a new adds date soon and see if they can get radio on board." But they never gave it an adds date, and so I don't really understand what the point was of putting any advertising out for this single. It sure seemed like they wanted to push this as Love and Theft's first Curb single, but then they really just...didn't. A couple of ads weren't going to get radio to play this. If Curb was serious about re-releasing this (and it seems they were, given that they released a new radio mix), then they should have given it an adds date. I realize Curb has struggled with most of their new artists, but Love and Theft at least has some name recognition, and if "Whiskey On My Breath" had been given an adds date, I think the song would have returned to the charts, at least for a little while. It would have done better for Curb than it did for Thirty Tigers.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 25, 2016 14:12:20 GMT -5
This one lost 94 spins and fell five spots to #66 on Mediabase this week. Curb will/has let this one go. I'm really not sure what Curb has been doing with this one. I mean, this song had already been recurrent for several weeks when they signed Love and Theft, but Curb started putting ads in the daily Aircheck emails anyway. I thought, "Okay, I can see why they're doing this. They'll probably give it a new adds date soon and see if they can get radio on board." But they never gave it an adds date, and so I don't really understand what the point was of putting any advertising out for this single. It sure seemed like they wanted to push this as Love and Theft's first Curb single, but then they really just...didn't. A couple of ads weren't going to get radio to play this. If Curb was serious about re-releasing this (and it seems they were, given that they released a new radio mix), then they should have given it an adds date. I realize Curb has struggled with most of their new artists, but Love and Theft at least has some name recognition, and if "Whiskey On My Breath" had been given an adds date, I think the song would have returned to the charts, at least for a little while. It would have done better for Curb than it did for Thirty Tigers. I'm right there with you. The new mix and advertising was perplexing if they weren't going to fully commit by giving this one an add date. They fast-tracked it too -- as soon as they officially signed Love and Theft, they started putting ads up for this song and sent out the new radio mix. I'm wondering if they got negative feedback from the stations who had/still are spinning this. Maybe they just said, "we've been spinning this one for months and we don't want to continue." Then they maybe didn't want to go through the exhaustion of attempting brand new stations to play this by giving it an adds date. I guess I'm saying, maybe they misjudged how this would play out and over the past two weeks, changed their plans and will let this one go all together. I can't explain exactly what happened here though.
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Post by someguy on Apr 25, 2016 20:10:46 GMT -5
This is definitely for the best, I think. It's time for them to put out something new, whether it be a new single from Whiskey On My Breath or a brand new single from an entirely different project. Curb seems to want to move on them quickly, so my guess is that we'll know what the plan is in the next couple of weeks.
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