YourFaveIsAFlop
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Dec 3, 2014 20:12:27 GMT -5
The writing on ArtPop is definitely pretentious. Musically, there are some real gems on the album, but she went out of her way to try to write artsy fartsy bullshitty lyrics, IMO as a way to mock the vapidity and meaninglessness of pop music, but it was just executed all wrong.
But the "when you touch me I die" hook in Venus is life and all that's in it.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 3, 2014 20:16:21 GMT -5
"Donatella", "Applause", "Fashion", and "Mary Jane Holland" are all trash. I'm fine w/ the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 2:46:09 GMT -5
'Applause' is one of her best Craig shut the fuck up.
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#LisaRinna
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 4, 2014 5:07:40 GMT -5
Is she really going to tour with Tony?
Get money b*tch!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 4, 2014 13:27:12 GMT -5
Songs I still love from Artpop (or at least like and re-listen to them)-Venus, Do What You Want, Applause, Sexx Dreams, GUY, Mary Jane Holland, and Gypsy. I still sometimes allow Jewels and Drugs, Artpop, and Manicure to play when they come on. I guess that is why I don't think Artpop is a super pretentious cd-I like all the more "normal" or party/sex/love songs compared to Swine, Dope, Aura that do get bogged down by pretension. I still think Aura has one of the catchiest hooks/choruses Gaga has ever done, but jesus the rest of those lyrics... Oh, and I don't care how bad some of the lyrics are in Venus I STILL LOVE IT. I wish it had been a single lol. I still wish the singles had been Applause, DWUW, Gypsy, Venus, and then whatever she wanted for single #5 if it even got released. The first three were either hits or could have been hits if released and properly promoted. She tried very hard to sabotage both Applause and DWUW for some reason so I think they could have been even bigger if she weren't so desperate to self-destruct. I don't think Venus would have ever smashed, but that could have been her Judas (single not made for radio at all, but Gaga wants it and could have had a great video and been a great addition to her singles history).
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kmbgs
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Post by kmbgs on Dec 4, 2014 14:32:37 GMT -5
Gaga wanted Judas? I thought the label pushed for it against her will.
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bat1990
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Post by bat1990 on Dec 4, 2014 14:52:07 GMT -5
The writing on ArtPop is definitely pretentious. Musically, there are some real gems on the album, but she went out of her way to try to write artsy fartsy bullshitty lyrics, IMO as a way to mock the vapidity and meaninglessness of pop music, but it was just executed all wrong. But the "when you touch me I die" hook in Venus is life and all that's in it. Yes, yes it is. My favorite part though is the "Neptune...Now go Sir Pluto..." part. I always flash through the stock footage attack sequences of the Sailor Moon characters' attacks. There's just enough time for each one, as long as Shine Aqua Illusion and Venus Love-Me Chain happen at the same time. Gaga wanted Judas? I thought the label pushed for it against her will. I'm curious about that too. I thought she was 100% "Marry The Night" as single #2 at the beginning, which is why it was eventually released, with a 7:45 short film
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Post by ILLUSION on Dec 4, 2014 15:19:30 GMT -5
Well that was disgusting. I've liked Howard because he seems to get honest answers out of the people he interviews but that clip was misogynistic, homophobic, and unnecessarily mean. Super off-putting. It was just disgusting. He went for LITERALLY all of the low-blows. The Madonna comparison, etc...
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Post by ILLUSION on Dec 9, 2014 18:02:22 GMT -5
2014 Billboard Year-End Charts:
- Dance/Electronic Album of the Year (ARTPOP) - Dance/Electronic Artist of the Year - Jazz Album of the Year (Cheek to Cheek)
Not too shabby!
It's also worthy to note that she is the first artist to ever win Dance/Electronic Album AND Jazz Album in the same year, and possibly in history?
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Dec 17, 2014 3:25:21 GMT -5
Did tmz leak the DWYW vid?
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Post by inclinations on Dec 17, 2014 14:13:40 GMT -5
I didn't see anything about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 22:30:15 GMT -5
lmaoooo
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Kishi KCM
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Post by Kishi KCM on Dec 18, 2014 22:41:48 GMT -5
I wonder how many tattoos she has...
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bat1990
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Post by bat1990 on Dec 21, 2014 11:21:28 GMT -5
Maybe they were all washable tattoos...
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Post by Rocky on Dec 22, 2014 5:10:46 GMT -5
lmaoooo It was makeup, if it wasn't obvious already. :)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 13:17:49 GMT -5
Why she trynna cover it up tho? Or is THAT obvious too? :)
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 22, 2014 15:50:29 GMT -5
I can't tell if people are joking or not, but she covers her tattoos pretty regularly depending on her look? Am I making that up and she has never done it before and I am just imagining it?
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getonthebus
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Post by getonthebus on Dec 22, 2014 16:07:31 GMT -5
I can't tell if people are joking or not, but she covers her tattoos pretty regularly depending on her look? Am I making that up and she has never done it before and I am just imagining it? I thought so too, especially for C2C promo? Or is it that she's usually wearing sleeves for those appearances, so they're just not usually visible?
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 22, 2014 16:11:06 GMT -5
I thought she had done both when she wants to look classy/glamorous-sleeves and/or make-up or tattoo concealer. Honestly, I like it better when her tattoos are covered. She looks...cluttered to me when all of them are showing.
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Dreams
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Post by Dreams on Dec 22, 2014 18:34:46 GMT -5
In the studio with Nile Rodgers and Diane Warren.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 18:37:37 GMT -5
Oh not Dianne Warren i hate her stuff nowadays, sappy and trite.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 22, 2014 20:09:53 GMT -5
Ugh. Was just gonna say, anyone but Diane Warren. Gaga needs to spice her stuff up, not bore us to tears with sappy dull-ass love songs.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 22, 2014 21:03:48 GMT -5
Yeah not excited, but maybe it will be magic somehow in a way we can't imagine now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 21:07:40 GMT -5
I was on the anti-Diane train until "Only Love Can Hurt Like This". Willing to give her a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:43:30 GMT -5
Just watched the 'Just Dance' video. In all its low budget glory, it's so good. All that potential...
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Agent Yoncé
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Dec 23, 2014 2:03:26 GMT -5
Nile & Diane. What an odd arrangement. Lol
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getonthebus
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Post by getonthebus on Dec 23, 2014 12:20:40 GMT -5
Nile & Diane. What an odd arrangement. Lol I might be okay with this pairing. Fashion! somehow turned out alright with a weird combination of talent behind it. Weird writer/producer match-ups would also be a fun pop album concept from her, if she could pull it off as a take on how a lot of pop music copies a dominant sound. Avicii/Mike Will Made It! DJ Mustard/Greg Kurstin! It would make me feel dizzy.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Dec 23, 2014 12:25:53 GMT -5
Nile & Diane. What an odd arrangement. Lol I might be okay with this pairing. Fashion! somehow turned out alright with a weird combination of talent behind it. Weird writer/producer match-ups would also be a fun pop album concept from her, if she could pull it off as a take on how a lot of pop music copies a dominant sound. Avicii/Mike Will Made It! DJ Mustard/Greg Kurstin! It would make me feel dizzy. I don't even think I can name 3 non ballad or slow tempo songs w/Diane's name being associated. Lol. Just seeing her or the name automatically thinks another slow ass song. Could be wrong, but we shall see.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 23, 2014 21:00:36 GMT -5
Diane Warren is trite as hell, but Nile better bring the spice out of Gaga.
I need this b*tch to slay.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 22:17:19 GMT -5
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