Madonna - "Living For Love"

[jjose712]

Feb 22, 2015 9:08:12 GMT -5 tatula69 said:

If sales don't budge, in fact this would put an end to the "radio is ageist" debate. It's a bit like what the BBC is saying: their AirPlay reflects their listeners' interests. They haven't banned her song because she's old, but if there is no interest from the listeners, they're not going to play it. Is radio going to force M down people's throats because she is getting good reviews and because she's an icon? Just something to think about.

BBC should keep their mouth shut. Will Young's Jealous didn't receive any airplay support and it was top 5 on the singles chart (apart of having a healthy fanbase which translate in good sales for every album).
Their motivations generally are far from pure

[tatula69]

All I'm I'm saying is, the argument usually goes: radio is ageist and won't give M a chance. If only they would give her a chance, the public would embrace her.
Well, US CHR is most definitely giving her a chance. Can't ask for more than that. The rest is up to the public. You can't blame radio if it doesn't pan out. Of course I'm hoping it keeps climbing.

[jumpb4uthink]

Z100 gave this a spin early this morning 3:48 am. Guess they are still somewhat on board.

[parkerricky]

Most of the U.S. is airing countdown shows right now.

After 12pm Noon time U.S. We'll know for sure if there

is going to be total abandonment.

[parkerricky]

Z100 played 'Living For Love' Madonna 12:58pm EST U.S. Is there hope???

[Safado]

I'm crossing my legs again.

[HolidayGuy]

I'm sure some stations will continue to play it. We didn't expect it to have the kind of play it had for a week, as it had such a small amount before then. Any measurable play for it from here on out- no matter if it's not as much as the past week- is a good thing.

WAEB, an iHeart station in Allentown, played it a little bit ago, as well.

[Deleted]

I would love it to become the classic hit along the lines of: Like a Virgin, Like a Prayer, Ray of Light and Hung Up but I'm not sure if it will. Out of those songs it is the weakest offering.

Hopefully in best case scenario she's opening up some shut doors so that Ghost Town can smash at radio.

[Safado]

I just hope she keeps breaking records in way or form. I'm not sure how will she continue making music and touring but I'll take whatever I can get from her. Chart success isn't that important anymore IMO.

[HolidayGuy]

I seriously don't see how anyone thinks she can "smash" at radio, especially when there are no featured acts. "Ghosttown" is one of my favorites from her, period, but, barring a tie-in to a big TV show or movie, I don't expect much chart action from it. I do hope she promotes that, though, films a great video, etc., rather than release something like "Bitch I'm Madonna."

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I think to a certain degree she does need hits to sustain her brand, so it's a shame her team isn't focused on this aspect of her career.

[chartfreak]

Feb 22, 2015 9:08:12 GMT -5 tatula69 said:

If sales don't budge, in fact this would put an end to the "radio is ageist" debate. It's a bit like what the BBC is saying: their AirPlay reflects their listeners' interests. They haven't banned her song because she's old, but if there is no interest from the listeners, they're not going to play it. Is radio going to force M down people's throats because she is getting good reviews and because she's an icon? Just something to think about.

Not necessarily, if this had 100 million AI on a weekly basis I'm sure it would be selling better.

[HolidayGuy]

Hits wouldn't hurt anyone, Veni, but other acts who've been recording as long or longer than she has are not hit-singe-reliant and they do fine. It's like Madonna's expected to have these big hits, all circumstances be damned, because of the level of success she's had. Not how it works, unfortunately.

[areyoureadytojump]

^But most other acts are not charging $400 a ticket.

People who pay $400 usually want to hear songs they know.

If #RebelHeart doesn't have any hits, there could be a lot of disappointed concert-goers.

You know the whole concert will be #RebelHeart tracks with a few golden oldies.

[areyoureadytojump]

Feb 22, 2015 14:17:35 GMT -5 @cosmiccandy said:

I think to a certain degree she does need hits to sustain her brand, so it's a shame her team isn't focused on this aspect of her career.

Exactly, this era is all about the album.

Get the good reviews and promote the album until tour preparations take over.

[Safado]

MDNA tour was the same thing but the tour was a huge success. I think this album will do well with masses.

[Deleted]

Feb 22, 2015 14:30:36 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

Hits wouldn't hurt anyone, Veni, but other acts who've been recording as long or longer than she has are not hit-singe-reliant and they do fine. It's like Madonna's expected to have these big hits, all circumstances be damned, because of the level of success she's had. Not how it works, unfortunately.

But is it that hard to score a hit? They were able to with GMAYL and L4L is a more universal song, not just a self-celebratory Super bowl ad. As others have mentioned, this would have had the same opportunities as GMAYL had it been rolled out properly. So as much as we want to talk ageism, we also need to point the finger at her team for how they're handling her releases.

[parkerricky]

It was indeed a great week for Madonna at U.S. Radio....oh..well



They have to make room for Selena Gomez,she sending out a song on Monday.



Before anyone says it. It may or may not have anything to with Madonna,I get that!!



Still,just wondering.

[HolidayGuy]

Veni- agreed. LFL was not handled well, for reasons discussed. But- what's a hit? GMAYL just peaked in the top 10 on the Hot 100, but it was a SB souvenir of a single that came and went pretty quickly. Did it really help shift any copies of the album, that would have been shifted, regardless?

[The Upper Hand]

Feb 22, 2015 7:29:46 GMT -5 Wolfy said:

Feb 21, 2015 12:17:59 GMT -5 The Upper Hand said:

#228 on iTunes US.

#268 now

I'm surprised it isn't another poster who is giving us those updates... :kii:

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HG, I guess I'm looking at the single's performance as an end in itself (measured by chart performance) but perhaps you're right and her team's focus is on the album (in which case it better outsell MDNA!)

[tatula69]

To those that say that M is not concerned with getting another hit, sorry, but it is Madonna herself who is clinging on to the past and attempting to reclaim her pop hit status. Why else would she be creating this music? Why would she be collaborating with hot producers and trying to align herself with Nicky Minaj and Miley Cyrrus? Why is she embracing social media, if not to resonate with an audience her kids' age? I think she is very much concerned with getting mainstream hits.
As for the next tour: I know that the MDNA tour was a huge success, but in a personal level, I attended the concert and I was disappointed that it was so focussed on the new material. I won't pay that kind of money this time around just to hear new non-hit music. That's just me, but I wouldn't count on this tour as being as big a hit as the last one. We shall see, I guess. I wouldn't mind a greatest hits tour, though. Maybe. Depends on how much she is asking.

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I would hate for her to become a nostalgia act.
I actually prefer her performances of crappy new songs like Gang Bang to her new renditions of those flawless oldies like Papa Don't Preach. In that way, I love that she doesn't hold on to the past and have any delusions that she is still that fresh-faced, fresh-voiced sex kitten from the 80s. I think that's where someone like Kylie could learn from M.

[tatula69]

That's interesting because that's where I'm not sure she realizes it or not. As for fresh stuff, ok, but not for $400 a ticket...

[HoldTight]

Feb 22, 2015 15:30:26 GMT -5 tatula69 said:

To those that say that M is not concerned with getting another hit, sorry, but it is Madonna herself who is clinging on to the past and attempting to reclaim her pop hit status. Why else would she be creating this music? Why would she be collaborating with hot producers and trying to align herself with Nicky Minaj and Miley Cyrrus? Why is she embracing social media, if not to resonate with an audience her kids' age? I think she is very much concerned with getting mainstream hits.
As for the next tour: I know that the MDNA tour was a huge success, but in a personal level, I attended the concert and I was disappointed that it was so focussed on the new material. I won't pay that kind of money this time around just to hear new non-hit music. That's just me, but I wouldn't count on this tour as being as big a hit as the last one. We shall see, I guess. I wouldn't mind a greatest hits tour, though. Maybe. Depends on how much she is asking.

Continuing to do what you love and record more music is not clinging to the past. Her first single is a solo track. Miley isn't on the album. "Non-hit music" on tour? The point of going to see an act live is because you love them and their music. By your logic nobody should tour until they have 15 or so big hits under their belt, which only a fraction of a percent of acts ever achieve.

[Wolfy]

Feb 22, 2015 14:22:25 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

Feb 22, 2015 9:08:12 GMT -5 tatula69 said:

If sales don't budge, in fact this would put an end to the "radio is ageist" debate. It's a bit like what the BBC is saying: their AirPlay reflects their listeners' interests. They haven't banned her song because she's old, but if there is no interest from the listeners, they're not going to play it. Is radio going to force M down people's throats because she is getting good reviews and because she's an icon? Just something to think about.

Not necessarily, if this had 100 million AI on a weekly basis I'm sure it would be selling better.

In theory, yes. In reality, no. Radio wouldn't give 100 million AI to a song that isn't connecting with the general public. It's why I suggested going to single #2 early on right after the Grammys. After the Grammys we saw several early indicators that the general public wasn't connecting to the song. It could be Madonna or it could be just the song that isn't connecting to the general public. It's why I suggested switching to single #2 a couple days after the Grammys. It's not just sales that are low, streaming also.

[HoldTight]

Feb 22, 2015 15:45:29 GMT -5 tatula69 said:

That's interesting because that's where I'm not sure she realizes it or not. As for fresh stuff, ok, but not for $400 a ticket...

The quality of the music being performed, and of the performances themselves, have nothing to do with whether or not the songs were hit singles. You're getting the same performer and her shows cost a certain of money to stage regardless of whether the tracks being performed are new or not.

[Snowbeast]

Feb 22, 2015 15:32:02 GMT -5 @cosmiccandy said:

I would hate for her to become a nostalgia act.
I actually prefer her performances of crappy new songs like Gang Bang

Gang Bang is the best song she's done since the Confessions era.

[seaguy27]

Feb 22, 2015 10:26:28 GMT -5 tatula69 said:

All I'm I'm saying is, the argument usually goes: radio is ageist and won't give M a chance. If only they would give her a chance, the public would embrace her.
Well, US CHR is most definitely giving her a chance. Can't ask for more than that. The rest is up to the public. You can't blame radio if it doesn't pan out. Of course I'm hoping it keeps climbing.

Give me a break…..you can break it down anyway you want. It is systemic and it goes way beyond music, it exist or artist would not all of a sudden stop being popular when they reach a certain age. It has gotten worse over the years…sure they throw Madonna a bone for a week but we all know they are not going to give her sustained airplay.

Madonna only gets that bone because she is a massive icon…if she were your average successful veteran act she would not even get that. It does not matter why you say they don't play older artist or rather you think it is ok or not.

These radio corporations dictate play and what we listen to more than the other way around….why? because most people are sheep. Sorry but it is the truth.

No matter the song radio is not going to be giving artist over a certain age any sustained radio play unless it is a bizarre anomaly or a feature with a younger artist.

[seaguy27]

Feb 22, 2015 15:52:33 GMT -5 HoldTight said:

Feb 22, 2015 15:45:29 GMT -5 tatula69 said:

That's interesting because that's where I'm not sure she realizes it or not. As for fresh stuff, ok, but not for $400 a ticket...

The quality of the music being performed, and of the performances themselves, have nothing to do with whether or not the songs were hit singles. You're getting the same performer and her shows cost a certain of money to stage regardless of whether the tracks being performed are new or not.

Exactly….it is about marketing and branding what you want and behind the scene attitudes. Some of the best pop music does not get played on the radio.