Kelly Clarkson - Heartbeat Song

[Az Paynter]

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38 31 KELLY CLARKSON Heartbeat Song 1810 937 873 7.940

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HOT AC:
20 17 KELLY CLARKSON Heartbeat Song 2353 1613 740 15.009

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AC:
17 15 KELLY CLARKSON Heartbeat Song 480 305 175 2.470

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[otternobetter890]

not too shabby!

It might not be flying up the charts, but this sounds great on the radio! I think HBS will have a slow and steady climb to the top ten.

[swim]

Jan 25, 2015 1:54:09 GMT -5 mluv said:

Didn't read the entire thread so I'm sure I'm going to repeat something said before. It doesn't make it less true. Kelly needs more original material if she's looking for a big comeback.

Agreed, but not sure about the "comeback" part. Now that this has been out for a short while and hearing it on the radio I like it a lot less than I did initially. It's too similar to The Middle and it just makes me want to listen to Jimmy Eat World, not Kelly. I think it's the fact that there is similar melody in the verse and chorus that makes it too noticeable to not let go. There's even a small overlap in rhythm which just adds to it all.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

I already feel like this is lost in the shuffle. :/ Maybe when promo kicks in things will improve. Being a huge Kelly fan through All I Ever Wanted, I will always root for her!

[Mike]

While I am happy this is chugging along nicely on Pop for her, after having a couple of weeks to let it sink in... I am just not feeling it. I find it extremely uneventful and underwhelming. And cheesy.

Which is one of her biggest problems as a commercial artist. A song like this would have been better suited for Fifth Harmony or Demi Lovato. She needs to move on and find a new sound that can be commercially viable and more mature at the same time. Call up Sam Smith and see what he's got locked up in the vault. Anyone but Kara for Christ sakes.

Edit: Unsurprisingly, some of the co-writers for this are also co-writers for many Demi and Fifth Harmony songs lol. Oy.

[popbox]

As I feared, the burn rate for this has been really bad for me. I'm kinda done with it already and I've never really abused the replay with it either. I feel like Kelly has a bit of a fight right now on CHR to show she still belongs on the format, but I don't think this is the song to really make her case. I'm hoping it can have a MKIA type run, where it slowly rises to an 8-12 range peak. I think that will be the best case scenario for it on CHR. Thankfully it's doing great on HAC and should continue to, and hopefully she comes hard with single #2, ala Stronger.

[bitchplease]

well kelly said this is THE pop anthem single from the new album, the sound that people love from her. there will be no Stronger kindda 2nd single

[lunaboona]

Jan 25, 2015 15:24:04 GMT -5 bitchplease said:

well kelly said this is THE pop anthem single from the new album, the sound that people love from her. there will be no Stronger kindda 2nd single

Like some of you on here, HBS has burned pretty fast on me as well. I wish Kelly would stop making the type of music that she thinks people expect from her. When Kelly says stuff like that it makes me think she isn't really interested in the song and only doing it to make others happy. However, from the little tidbits has shared about PBP, HBS appears to be the only anthem type pop song on the album. I just wish we could get some promo for HBS and PBP.

[Love Plastic Love]

I was never truly crazy about the song, but I do think that it will be a slow-burning hit like MKIA. More "exciting" songs will move up a lot faster and get more attention, but this will eventually find its way top 15. Of course, this may be incorrect if she doesn't plan any promo at all. Does she have any performances lined up?

[dbhmr]

Generally disagree. I think this is an instant, catchy song that is fresh-sounding, both among her catalog and what's on the radio now. It's just either going to find that moment that gets the masses on board or it won't.

[bigb0882]

I hate to say it but it has burned quickly for me, as well. Now, let's be honest, I listened to it on repeat since its release. It obviously won't burn out that quickly for the people who just hear it on the radio from time to time. I am happy to know this is the "poppiest" single on the record and that is the one "anthem." That bodes well for a different style on the rest of the album. I am not at all crazy about the dance songs, just not a fan of the genre at all. If I Can't Have You never clicked for me and most of Kelly's fans insist it should have been a single and a hit at that. Maybe she can surprise me, though.

[velcro]

I've purposefully tried to listen only once per day and my appreciation for HBS is only growing.

[Ryan]

[Anticonformity]

Jan 25, 2015 18:54:04 GMT -5 dbhmr said:

Generally disagree. I think this is an instant, catchy song that is fresh-sounding, both among her catalog and what's on the radio now. It's just either going to find that moment that gets the masses on board or it won't.

Profound...

[james]

How does the songs run compare to Catch My Breath and Mr Know It All so far? To me, at least, it seems fairy on-par with both those songs.

With the relativity non existent promo, it kind of feels like they're just testing the waters with this one. I have a feeling if it doesn't take off soon, they'll release another single in a few weeks with a more aggressive strategy before the albums release.

[Az Paynter]

POP:
37 30 KELLY CLARKSON Heartbeat Song 1989 1093 896 8.975

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[Unhinged]

Jan 26, 2015 3:12:05 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Simple, but it works perfectly!

[Jack]

Jan 15, 2015 9:56:53 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

Jan 15, 2015 9:15:49 GMT -5 Jack said:

It's well known within the industry that Sam and his people settled out of court, quietly, anyway.

Well known inside the industry? How convenient. One of the biggest songs and new artists of the past year gets sued and settles out of court and there's not a single article, record or mention of it anywhere? Even more suspicious given the songs swath of Grammy noms. Sounds like conjecture to me, let's just say I'm not gonna take your insider word for it.

Gosh. This is awkward.

News story broke WW today.

Digital Spy:

Tom Petty and ELO's Jeff Lynne have been awarded Sam Smith royalties.

Although details have only just emerged, as The Sun reports, the matter was settled out of court back in October last year.

Petty and Lyne have now been officially recognised as co-writers of the track, along with Smith, William Phillips and Jimmy Napes.

Rest Of Story Here: www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a624237/tom-petty-and-jeff-lyne-awarded-sam-smith-royalties-for-stay-with-me.html

Humble pie? Crow?

I will just say for the record that I don't go about making things up in order to impress people I don't know on a message board or curry favor so I get credibility. I mean what I say, and say what I mean. I work in the industry and have proved my legitimacy time and time again. To level accusations at me because you don't like the content is just absurd, and perhaps you'll think twice next time. :)

[QAF]

Snap!

[kmbgs]

Interesting. So Petty will win a GRAMMY is SWM wins song of the year, correct? How embarrassing for Sam Smith, bc that isn't going to go unnoticed should he win.

[Ling-Ling]

Jan 26, 2015 8:16:01 GMT -5 Jack said:

Jan 15, 2015 9:56:53 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

Well known inside the industry? How convenient. One of the biggest songs and new artists of the past year gets sued and settles out of court and there's not a single article, record or mention of it anywhere? Even more suspicious given the songs swath of Grammy noms. Sounds like conjecture to me, let's just say I'm not gonna take your insider word for it.

Gosh. This is awkward.

News story broke WW today.

Digital Spy:

Tom Petty and ELO's Jeff Lynne have been awarded Sam Smith royalties.

Although details have only just emerged, as The Sun reports, the matter was settled out of court back in October last year.

Petty and Lyne have now been officially recognised as co-writers of the track, along with Smith, William Phillips and Jimmy Napes.

Rest Of Story Here: www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a624237/tom-petty-and-jeff-lyne-awarded-sam-smith-royalties-for-stay-with-me.html

Humble pie? Crow?

I will just say for the record that I don't go about making things up in order to impress people I don't know on a message board or curry favor so I get credibility. I mean what I say, and say what I mean. I work in the industry and have proved my legitimacy time and time again. To level accusations at me because you don't like the content is just absurd, and perhaps you'll think twice next time. :)

The next time you post a rumor or gossip with no verifiable source as fact, I'll still call you out on it. And that's all it was at the time... a rumor. Thankfully for you, it turned out to be true. Have your sources ready next time or don't post it, because I'm not taking anybody's insider word for it. That includes you or anyone else.

[dbhmr]

Jan 26, 2015 3:16:23 GMT -5 Anticonformity said:

Jan 25, 2015 18:54:04 GMT -5 dbhmr said:

Generally disagree. I think this is an instant, catchy song that is fresh-sounding, both among her catalog and what's on the radio now. It's just either going to find that moment that gets the masses on board or it won't.

Profound...

Oh, you were looking for profundity in a post about a song's chances on pop radio? Best of luck with your search. Take your time.

[Jack]

Jan 26, 2015 10:42:03 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

The next time you post a rumor or gossip with no verifiable source as fact, I'll still call you out on it. And that's all it was at the time... a rumor. Thankfully for you, it turned out to be true. Have your sources ready next time.

But it wasn't either, was it? it wasn't a rumor or gossip just because you thought it was or didn't want to hear it. This just looks like a desperate attempt from you to save face. What did you want? A copy of the email exchange between lawyers? It was fact and is fact. And its status as such does not at all rely on what you do or don't believe, I'm afraid. I knew full well they had settled out of court, precisely like I had said. And low and behold a couple of weeks later the story breaks with my exact phrasing and information on the case. It's rather absurd that you don't just gather up a little humility and admit you didn't know what you were talking about, and I (however irritating it must be for you) did.

Everybody reading this has seen you come across as silly, and while I guess in a world where you accused me of trying to impress you anonymously over the internet only to be embarrassingly proved wrong, that might sting for you, it's really not all that serious beyond that.

Thankfully for me? You know at the start of this month when I quoted the lyrics to Heartbeat Song to dbhmr and neally verbatim via private message, and explained to them in detail what the song was like, they didn't when the song came out write to me saying "ZOMG you're lucky you guessed the lyrics and style of the song. What a coincidence!! Next time you tell us about the lyrics you better have a source or else I won't believe you because you were lying this time and just lucked out". They didn't ask me how I knew, and I didn't tell them. Because that's not how it works.

I try not to make a song and dance about being able to provide a small insight into certain areas of what goes on behind the scenes in the entertainment industry, and perhaps users like you are why more people don't bother.

Now if you excuse me I'm going to head off to the race tracks, because if my predictive skills not to mention good fortune has been so supreme that any bit of intel if I've ever provided on here has been correct, then it looks like I've got some money to make.

[kmbgs]

I need more gifs of that hairbow interview

[Ling-Ling]

Firstly Jack, let's not be overdramatic here. I don't know what you mean by "I didn't want to hear it." Do you think that I care about Sam Smith or that I'm invested in his career? I don't give two sh*ts about Sam Smith or the fact that he ripped off Tom Petty. As I stated in previous posts, the song clearly rips off Tom Petty's song, and he deserved to get sued. I'm glad Petty is going to make some major coins off of this.

What I objected to, was you posting that it was "well known inside the industry" that Sam Smith got sued and settled out of court when there was no verifiable source. Were you in the court room? Was your aunt the stenographer? Did you get cc'ed on that email? Oh, I'm sure you did, considering it was probably a closed case. I'm sure the whole industry got cc'ed on that email. You heard it around town I'm sure, which makes it gossip and a rumor. And also makes it libelous information. If you're going to post information like that, it needs a source. I don't take people's word on anything, I want proof. Forgive me for having some kind of standards when it comes to the information I read and believe.

As for me looking silly or feeling embarrassed? This is a music message board... it's not that serious. And as for me eating crow, I don't eat that either, I'm vegan.

[secretchef]

If anyone wants to pm me rumors or gossip regarding Adam Lambert's new single, I don't care about sources ;) And sometimes things just can't be sourced, and that's ok with me too, doesn't mean they may not be true.

[dbhmr]

Jan 26, 2015 11:14:40 GMT -5 wallace said:

Jan 26, 2015 7:30:43 GMT -5 Unhinged said:

Simple, but it works perfectly!

I like this, but I don't really understand why it took two weeks to put it together, rather than releasing this on the adds date. I mean, somebody who knows how to do these kind of graphics could probably have produced this thing in an hour.

It probably didn't take that long, but if they knew they didn't have any promo planned, I'm sure this was an orchestrated opportunity to give this song a bit of life between its release and the music video.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jan 26, 2015 9:44:28 GMT -5 kmbgs said:

Interesting. So Petty will win a GRAMMY is SWM wins song of the year, correct? How embarrassing for Sam Smith, bc that isn't going to go unnoticed should he win.

I wouldn't say it's embarrassing consider he settled without there being any sort of a court battle or anything like that. Unless there's actually a lengthier timeline than what I'm aware of, it's a PR win for him and if anything, it puts him in a good light because he admitted upfront that the similarities were there.

Jan 26, 2015 10:42:03 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

because I'm not taking anybody's insider word for it. That includes you or anyone else.

With that noted, why should we believe Rolling Stone and Digital Spy? I, for one, will only believe this if I see video footage of Sam and/or Tom acknowledging it firsthand!

[Jack]

Jan 26, 2015 11:14:29 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

Stuff

You seem confused about what actually happened. I cited factual events as a part of my argument, and you replied by calling them lies and inferred I was making things up, and then dismissed it as such. When the story broke, saying almost verbatim what I did, you then scrambled around inferring I was lucky, it was a coincidence, and the events only happened when you accepted them to be so. I’m afraid that kind of self-involved, ignorance-based arrogance in the face of the fact that you’ve been made to look foolish is just irritating. “I need this”. “You need to prove to me”. I couldn’t care less what you need or want. I offered up information, and it was sound, as has been proved in this instance (and has been proved time and time again in the past) to be entirely correct. If each and every time you pretend I’m lying, and then each and every time I’m proved to reliable and accurate, you’re the one that’s going to come continue coming across as foolish, not me. And I’m afraid that will have no baring on whether I can or am willing to tell you how I know what I do. You saying ’Until YOU can prove to ME how you know what you know, or else it isn’t true and you’re just lucky’ is just the most absurd line of reasoning I think I’ve ever read on this message board, and that is saying something. If I told you the colleagues, acquaintances, business associates and exchanges I had in my line of work in order to impress you and cater to your needs, I wouldn’t have them for very long would I? I’m afraid it isn’t enough of an incentive for me (me, me, me). Even now the story has broken, I doubt you have sufficient proof to truly believe it, and I’m barely sure by your own admission either parties’ lawyers could prove it to you even if they had to. That goes for 99% of the rest of music news too, in fact.

By the way, trying to being dismissive and witty in the face of being proved wrong, doesn’t really work if you can’t really remember the shade you’re throwing from one sentence to the next: “Sam Smith settled out of court when there was no verifiable source. Were you in the court room?” No I wasn’t in the court room, as you said eleven seconds later, and I told you eleven days earlier - it was settled out of court.

You can object to me posting that it was "well known inside the industry”, but it was well known within the industry. From record labels, recording studios, publishers, entertainment law firms, PR companies etc. to me. And now it’s trickled down to be ‘well known’ to you.

You believing it, now or ever does not make me right. My being right, makes me right.

That’s the last I’ll say on this particular topic. I’m sure we’ll cross paths when news of the Kelly Clarkson duet on her new album comes out ;)

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jan 26, 2015 12:41:04 GMT -5 Jack said:

Were you in the court room?” No I wasn’t in the court room, as you said eleven seconds later, and I told you eleven days earlier - it was settled out of court.

Ace!

Jan 26, 2015 12:41:04 GMT -5 Jack said:

That’s the last I’ll say on this particular topic. I’m sure we’ll cross paths when news of the Kelly Clarkson duet on her new album comes out ;)

The one with John Legend?