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Post by wavey. on Apr 9, 2015 15:26:02 GMT -5
Yes Wiz! #alllivesmatter
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 9, 2015 15:29:15 GMT -5
The video views for "See You Again" are up to 9.4 million from 3.4 yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 15:29:36 GMT -5
What's interesting is that "See You Again" will be the first time a black rapper* will reach #1 as a lead artist since.... early 2011 when Wiz Khalifa spent a week at #1 with "Black & Yellow." This is a particularly staggering factoid when you consider Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis, Eminem, and Iggy Azalea have all had #1 singles in the meantime. *Flo Rida reached #1 in summer 2012 so it's up to you whether he counts as a rapper or not. He counts. Maybe not hip-hop but still rap. |
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Post by popbox on Apr 9, 2015 15:37:34 GMT -5
What's interesting is that "See You Again" will be the first time a black rapper* will reach #1 as a lead artist since.... early 2011 when Wiz Khalifa spent a week at #1 with "Black & Yellow." This is a particularly staggering factoid when you consider Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis, Eminem, and Iggy Azalea have all had #1 singles in the meantime. *Flo Rida reached #1 in summer 2012 so it's up to you whether he counts as a rapper or not.When I started to read that sentence I seriously thought you were heading towards "whether he counts as black or not."  |
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Post by maxsultan on Apr 9, 2015 15:40:57 GMT -5
Wiz may be seen to be the lead but it is the hook and the chorus as written and sung by Charlie Puth that is the main reason this song is proving so popular to many.
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Post by allow that on Apr 9, 2015 15:43:07 GMT -5
ANYWAY! Even if we DO go with Flo Rida, it's still been nearly three years and we've had four "white rap" #1's since. Wiz coming to rectify this abnormality.
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Post by allow that on Apr 9, 2015 15:43:52 GMT -5
Wiz may be seen to be the lead but it is the hook and the chorus as written and sung by Charlie Puth that is the main reason this song is proving so popular to many. Uh, no one knows who that is. This strikes me as a typical "rap sucks so I will discredit it!" post. |
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Post by godjanny on Apr 9, 2015 15:47:10 GMT -5
ANYWAY! Even if we DO go with Flo Rida, it's still been nearly three years and we've had four "white rap" #1's since. Wiz coming to rectify this abnormality. Five. If Flo Rida counts, Pitbull counts.  |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2015 15:50:19 GMT -5
Charlie Puth found his fame through YouTube. His breakthrough song was ''Marvin Gaye'. A duet with Meghan Trainior. Not a hit here but it has hit in Australia
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Post by wavey. on Apr 9, 2015 16:04:31 GMT -5
HITBULL isn't BLACK! Flo Rida is WHITE. I thought we discussed this.  |
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Post by crystalphnx on Apr 9, 2015 16:04:37 GMT -5
ANYWAY! Even if we DO go with Flo Rida, it's still been nearly three years and we've had four "white rap" #1's since. Wiz coming to rectify this abnormality. Five. If Flo Rida counts, Pitbull counts.  I might be going beyond the scope of this thread here, but is it quite right to lump Pitbull in with the "white" rappers? The US Census may not consider Hispanic or Latino a race, but that seems to be how Pit (who's of Cuban descent) identifies: www.scpr.org/blogs/multiamerican/2011/09/30/7479/pitbull-on-being-a-light-skinned-latino-rapper-tou/ |
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Post by wavey. on Apr 9, 2015 16:10:40 GMT -5
It really has been a while since a "black" rapper topped the charts.
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Post by felipe on Apr 9, 2015 16:13:35 GMT -5
The SYA airplay (and fairly minimal gains) is EXACTLY what is wrong with radio. Here is an ultra hot song from a hot movie - it's part of the Pop Culture discussion, etc. and yet radio is moving at its own pace. Seriously, drop some of the Chandelier, Rude, SWM, etc. airplay and slot this in. The public is connecting with the song. Oh, and, I'm not a fan of the song at all, but I recognize that it is resonating with a lot of people on Facebook, etc. A lot of people think radio should play whatever people are buying on iTunes, but I guess they fail to realize sales still represent a very small portion of the people who consume music. Just because 500k people bought a song on iTunes, it doesn't mean 50 million people want to hear it on the radio. People who bought it probably did so because of the movie, but if the song was playing on radio all the time in its first week I bet most listeners would be like "why the hell is radio playing this the whole day?" |
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Post by maxsultan on Apr 9, 2015 16:18:36 GMT -5
Wiz may be seen to be the lead but it is the hook and the chorus as written and sung by Charlie Puth that is the main reason this song is proving so popular to many. Uh, no one knows who that is. This strikes me as a typical "rap sucks so I will discredit it!" post. Not at all. Just look at the comments all over social media. Many quoting the lines from the chorus all the time. The chorus is what is turning this song into a phenomenon imo. |
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Post by lyhom on Apr 9, 2015 16:20:45 GMT -5
Uh, no one knows who that is. This strikes me as a typical "rap sucks so I will discredit it!" post. Not at all. Just look at the comments all over social media. Many quoting the lines from the chorus all the time. The chorus is what is turning this song into a phenomenon imo. wow the hook is hooking people into the song what a revelation |
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Post by maxsultan on Apr 9, 2015 16:24:38 GMT -5
Not at all. Just look at the comments all over social media. Many quoting the lines from the chorus all the time. The chorus is what is turning this song into a phenomenon imo. wow the hook is hooking people into the song what a revelation Not a revelation but it was Charlie Puth who submitted the song to the makers of the film and the song was chosen for the Paul Walker tribute on the strength of how well it sounded. The fact he was only known on Youtube makes it all the more remarkable. Wiz Khalifa was added later. |
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Post by crystalphnx on Apr 9, 2015 16:25:58 GMT -5
It really has been a while since a "black" rapper topped the charts. There was the whole "Candy Shop" discussion in last week's thread, now combined with this discusion here, makes me think of how dramatically things have shifted in the past 10 years. 2009-2010 was really the turning point when we basically stopped seeing black rappers at No. 1 (2010 had B.o.B, then Wiz in '11, then Flo, if he counts, in '12) - compared to 2002-2008, when we had at least a couple (often more) each year. |
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Post by lyhom on Apr 9, 2015 16:28:16 GMT -5
wow the hook is hooking people into the song what a revelation Not a revelation but it was Charlie Puth who submitted the song to the makers of the film and the song was chosen for the Paul Walker tribute on the strength of how well it sounded. The fact he was only known on Youtube makes it all the more remarkable. Wiz Khalifa was added later.  |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 9, 2015 16:30:03 GMT -5
The SYA airplay (and fairly minimal gains) is EXACTLY what is wrong with radio. Here is an ultra hot song from a hot movie - it's part of the Pop Culture discussion, etc. and yet radio is moving at its own pace. Seriously, drop some of the Chandelier, Rude, SWM, etc. airplay and slot this in. The public is connecting with the song. Oh, and, I'm not a fan of the song at all, but I recognize that it is resonating with a lot of people on Facebook, etc. A lot of people think radio should play whatever people are buying on iTunes, but I guess they fail to realize sales still represent a very small portion of the people who consume music. Just because 500k people bought a song on iTunes, it doesn't mean 50 million people want to hear it on the radio. People who bought it probably did so because of the movie, but if the song was playing on radio all the time in its first week I bet most listeners would be like "why the hell is radio playing this the whole day?" I think you make a solid point for sure; radio doesn't need to match sales or even streaming exactly. At the same time, radio also shouldn't be wildly different. I think of "Girl Crush" where it was top 3 in country sales yet stuck in the 30s in country airplay and not gaining. We now have "See You Again" with huge sales, yet nowhere near the radio gains you'd expect. But, yeah, there are more things than sales of singles to measure popularity; sometimes a song sells albums instead of singles. Sometimes people like to hear a song on radio but not necessarily buy it (for instance, if people are coming home from a long day at work they might want something pleasant as background music). And as you said, sales only represent a small portion of the music audience. The biggest singles ever sold like 7 million copies during their main run...which is like 2-3% of the U.S. population. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2015 16:33:44 GMT -5
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Post by maxsultan on Apr 9, 2015 16:35:06 GMT -5
Not a revelation but it was Charlie Puth who submitted the song to the makers of the film and the song was chosen for the Paul Walker tribute on the strength of how well it sounded. The fact he was only known on Youtube makes it all the more remarkable. Wiz Khalifa was added later. Nothing goes over my head. I would catch it. (Drax - Guardians Of The Galaxy) |
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Apr 9, 2015 16:46:21 GMT -5
Now the prediction of Kworb.net/cc about See You Again's sales is 510K... unreal
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Post by badrobot on Apr 9, 2015 16:49:56 GMT -5
Do I get a cookie if I'm right that UF stays at #1 this week?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 16:59:46 GMT -5
Do I get a cookie if I'm right that UF stays at #1 this week? I'd give 100 cookies just for it to happen It won't happen though unless SYA starts falling in sales fast |
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Post by jebsib on Apr 9, 2015 17:03:26 GMT -5
What is UP with that 14 week stumbling block?!?
It will be 7 songs.
We need a decisive runner-up, already!
In all seriousness, it is interesting how many of these songs collapse very quickly.
It's as if an unspoken national fatigue sets in instantly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 17:08:10 GMT -5
What is UP with that 14 week stumbling block?!? It will be 7 songs. We need a decisive runner-up, already! In all seriousness, it is interesting how many of these songs collapse very quickly. It's as if an unspoken national fatigue sets in instantly. Ikr? That's why I'm hoping UF can get just one more week and make it 15. Sad part is that the timing was perfect if only SYA didn't appear out of the blue like that UF would've certainly at least tied the record... |
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Post by allow that on Apr 9, 2015 17:16:16 GMT -5
Do I get a cookie if I'm right that UF stays at #1 this week? How about a kiss instead?  |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2015 17:17:16 GMT -5
Not all 7 of those songs finished their chart run as the runner up. The record was 14 for about 3 years, 2 songs hit that before Boyz II Men and Mariah got the record. In fact Boyz II Men broke their own record
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Post by ss8 on Apr 9, 2015 17:53:12 GMT -5
Do I get a cookie if I'm right that UF stays at #1 this week? Dunno if this is total sarcasm lol or there's something youre aware of that no one else in the world is (maybe except Billboard) . Anyways, this was absolutely lottery like odds for this to happen to UF (or ANY song in its position). Looking like RCA truly didn't care as there is no discount or sign of one. The fact UF still has the airplay and streams beyond bizarre they didnt at least try! *Unless they know its a hopeless cause. There were always songs hot on the tails (or about to premiere) of all the previous songs at 13-14 weeks at #1. This is the last thing ANYone saw coming even just 5 days ago! Question is now, since SYA will hit #1 solely based on sales and soon to be streaming, if it holds on (which is likely cause theres like *nothing under it that's super strong w/ airplay and sales) *once airplay kicks in or even starts to explode we could be in the same exact situation in 3 months that we are now! lol. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2015 18:01:33 GMT -5
Do I get a cookie if I'm right that UF stays at #1 this week? I'd give 100 cookies just for it to happen It won't happen though unless SYA starts falling in sales fast Do I get a cookie if I'm right that UF stays at #1 this week? Dunno if this is total sarcasm lol or there's something youre aware of that no one else in the world is (maybe except Billboard) . Anyways, this was absolutely lottery like odds for this to happen to UF (or ANY song in its position). Looking like RCA truly didn't care as there is no discount or sign of one. The fact UF still has the airplay and streams beyond bizarre they didnt at least try! *Unless they know its a hopeless cause. There were always songs hot on the tails (or about to premiere) of all the previous songs at 13-14 weeks at #1. This is the last thing ANYone saw coming even just 5 days ago! Question is now, since SYA will hit #1 solely based on sales and soon to be streaming, if it holds on (which is likely cause theres like *nothing under it that's super strong w/ airplay and sales) *once airplay kicks in or even starts to explode we could be in the same exact situation in 3 months that we are now! lol.
Oh come on, don't jinx it. Now I kind of want Mark G to buy him 100 cookies.
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