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Post by bstiles on Apr 10, 2015 17:04:39 GMT -5
Hey everybody. There're a lot of great new artists and songs coming out this year, but I'd be interested to know what everyone thinks is MISSING in country music right now.
What are your thoughts?
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Steven
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Post by Steven on Apr 10, 2015 19:46:23 GMT -5
I think one of the problems with country music today is that it doesn't have that authentic feel to it. Back when country was good, it all felt so genuine. Nowadays, it just seems like the artists are singing without any emotion. This is just my opinion, though.
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Post by Andy on Apr 10, 2015 19:55:56 GMT -5
Storytelling, depth, and organic production.
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Post by H. on Apr 10, 2015 19:56:40 GMT -5
Country used to have depth and emotion. I think the genre has lost that.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Apr 10, 2015 22:13:19 GMT -5
Women. And also lyrical depth. Country music is a genre built around storytelling, and while it's WAY better recently, it seems that's an aspect that's gone missing over the past few years.
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Post by sbp17 on Apr 10, 2015 22:16:29 GMT -5
Country Music.
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bstiles
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Post by bstiles on Apr 11, 2015 2:13:31 GMT -5
Very cool! What would yall say about the guys who were doing it in the late 90's/2000's-- like Tim McGraw and early Keith Urban?
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.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 11, 2015 3:19:39 GMT -5
This. More specifically though, I need instruments associated with country music to make a return. More fiddle, steel guitar, banjo, etc. and less amped up electric guitars and percussion. Also, women. There definitely needs to be more gender diversity, not only because I prefer female artists, but also since they put out so much more interesting stuff. They actually rely on the strength of their voices and lyrical depth, and not on the fact they obtain a penis. Most of the male artists of today are just so interchangeable and generic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 12:30:01 GMT -5
Stoytelling, variety, and artists with a distinct sound/ identity . First and foremost, I miss the great storytelling that Country music used to be the base of, and that has really hindered my enjoyment of the genre the last several years.
Variety is non-exiestent, and every song and artist is basically interchangeable. The lack of female artists is another huge issue, and it's telling that they are the gender making the better music, yet anyone not named Carrie or Miranda will see little to no airplay or success. Radio has a huge effect in terms of breaking new artists and exposure, thus they are making an already bleak situation even worse. If radio would jump on board with more artists and threw in some variety, perhaps that would encourage listeners to support a wider variety of artists.
I can dream, right?
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Post by tonyei31 on Apr 11, 2015 12:36:51 GMT -5
Country Music and talent. Very few people heard on radio convey either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 16:40:52 GMT -5
This is an unpopular opinion, but I think that country now is worse than its ever been (at least in the mainstream). Sure bro-country was a pain, but I'd gladly take it back if it meant getting rid of singers who release totally non-country songs (Sam Hunt, Thomas Rhett, Hayley Georgia...etc). While the storytelling aspect and emotion are missing from the genre, I honestly feel that the biggest problem stems from just not having any f**king respect for the genre. Some singers feel that they're "too cool" for country and branch out to other genre noises, then you have some who were influenced by Rock, Rap, Pop, R&B, you name it, but are just not talented to compete in those leagues, so they get dumped into country, making claims of "evolving" the genre. The only artists who can still get radio play that actually care about the genre that I can think of are Josh Turner, Jake Owen,.......wow I'm drawing a blank, that's not good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 16:48:49 GMT -5
This is an unpopular opinion, but I think that country now is worse than its ever been (at least in the mainstream). Sure bro-country was a pain, but I'd gladly take it back if it meant getting rid of singers who release totally non-country songs (Sam Hunt, Thomas Rhett, Hayley Georgia...etc). While the storytelling aspect and emotion are missing from the genre, I honestly feel that the biggest problem stems from just not having any f**king respect for the genre. Some singers feel that they're "too cool" for country and branch out to other genre noises, then you have some who were influenced by Rock, Rap, Pop, R&B, you name it, but are just not talented to compete in those leagues, so they get dumped into country, making claims of "evolving" the genre. The only artists who can still get radio play that actually care about the genre that I can think of are Josh Turner, Jake Owen,.......wow I'm drawing a blank, that's not good. [/b] I'd make cases for Miranda Lambert, Kacey Musgraves and Carrie Underwood, too.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 11, 2015 19:18:58 GMT -5
Women. Not girls. Women.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 21:14:45 GMT -5
This is an unpopular opinion, but I think that country now is worse than its ever been (at least in the mainstream). Sure bro-country was a pain, but I'd gladly take it back if it meant getting rid of singers who release totally non-country songs (Sam Hunt, Thomas Rhett, Hayley Georgia...etc). While the storytelling aspect and emotion are missing from the genre, I honestly feel that the biggest problem stems from just not having any f**king respect for the genre. Some singers feel that they're "too cool" for country and branch out to other genre noises, then you have some who were influenced by Rock, Rap, Pop, R&B, you name it, but are just not talented to compete in those leagues, so they get dumped into country, making claims of "evolving" the genre. The only artists who can still get radio play that actually care about the genre that I can think of are Josh Turner, Jake Owen,.......wow I'm drawing a blank, that's not good. [/b] I'd make cases for Miranda Lambert, Kacey Musgraves and Carrie Underwood, too. [/quote] Yes, definently them too, I feel like an ass for forgetting them.
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Post by gonecountry on Apr 11, 2015 21:49:36 GMT -5
Integrity
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Post by vamp111 on Apr 12, 2015 3:30:10 GMT -5
Respect for its history.
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Post by someguy on Apr 12, 2015 3:32:46 GMT -5
[/b] I'd make cases for Miranda Lambert, Kacey Musgraves and Carrie Underwood, too. [/quote] Yes, definently them too, I feel like an ass for forgetting them. [/quote] I would add Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney and Keith Urban to this list too, along with Reba McEntire (who doesn't get as much play as she used to due to her record label, but is at least on the charts). Eric Church and Zac Brown Band would usually fall into this category, though both do fit the bill for the most part. I agree with Ten Pound Hammer that women (not girls) are sorely missing on today's country radio, for the most part.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 5:30:45 GMT -5
^I don't know about Eric Church, he is the one that said genres are dead after all. Zac Brown, I suppose, though they've always labeled themselves as a southern rock band, I mean they thank country for where its gotten them but it looks like they're out to be a southern rock band (which Homegrown is a perfect example of, while Heavy Is The Head is a straight up rock song). I agree about Urban and forgot about him.
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Post by vamp111 on Apr 14, 2015 0:33:54 GMT -5
I also think authenticity is missing. I feel like you can't just sing country, you have to BE country.
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Post by bjer127 on Apr 14, 2015 10:13:10 GMT -5
All of these are very good , and some quite funny. I would agree with more women, and to me the genre needs someone to get behind. Like back when Johnny Cash and/or Merle Haggard sang those songs that changed peoples lives, etc. No one will follow Luke Bryan to country music promised land LOL. Most of the songs in the past 3 or 4 years will be forgotten in another year or two, outside some gems.
I do think it is headed back in a better direction. People like Kacey, Brandy Clark, Chris Stapleton, Ashley Monroe and others are really putting out good music that people are recognizing. I would love nothing more than a 90's like resurgence in country. Hell, bring back the Hat Acts!! haha.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 0:30:16 GMT -5
As much as I love Country music, the pool of artists that support traditional Country and bring it to a mainstream audience is smaller than ever.
It seems like 99% of Country artists are simply willing to be mouthpieces for the genre, instead of showcasing a blend of styles that respects Country's roots and remains unique.
Too many artists have been pressured to become so Pop and Top 40 "Lite" that the genre's foundation as a whole has completely changed in a relatively short time span.
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Post by thebops on Apr 16, 2015 2:29:55 GMT -5
I agree with .indulgecountry -- where are the steel guitars, fiddles, and even piano/keyboards? The majority of the songs these days (at least mainstream radio top hits) are all guitars, bass and drums. And of course some banjo and a little mandolin. But the steel and fiddle have always been staples but no longer. Even artists like Tim McGraw that used to use a fiddle and steel rarely use them any longer. Kind of reminds me of early to mid 80s country when much of it was bland and didn't really sound like country much at all.
And also I agree with many country artists paying lip service to country but secretly wanting to be rock/pop stars. At concerts they can't wait to play their Aerosmith or Prince covers. They should pull out an old Haggard or Milsap song and do a cover of that instead.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Apr 16, 2015 10:37:56 GMT -5
I agree with all the above. Integrity , diversity, females , instrumentation , respect of history, style , talent & storytelling. The only thing I could think to add would be heart. Even if you take the auto tune & obvious pop influence & cookie cutter music away.... how can anyone really convey heart felt music while singing such mundane lyrical "stories"? Barring the occasional (and RARE) album track , I can't remember the last time a mainstream single gave me an honest to goodness chill.
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Post by Andy on Apr 16, 2015 18:14:09 GMT -5
I agree with all the above. Integrity , diversity, females , instrumentation , respect of history, style , talent & storytelling. The only thing I could think to add would be heart. Even if you take the auto tune & obvious pop influence & cookie cutter music away.... how can anyone really convey heart felt music while singing such mundane lyrical "stories"? Barring the occasional (and RARE) album track , I can't remember the last time a mainstream single gave me an honest to goodness chill. Yep. There are no songs that blow you away, make you cry or give you goosebumps. We've gone from being a genre known for its heartfelt emotion and literary qualities to... the opposite of that. It's amazing how far the mainstream realm of this genre has fallen in such a short period of time. Even great songs that are barely ten years old like "Monday Morning Church", "Travelin' Soldier", "Three Wooden Crosses", "Angry All the Time", "Probably Wouldn't Be This Way", etc. could never be a hit today. I don't even know if "The House That Built Me" would be accepted.
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