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Post by matty005 on Mar 16, 2016 21:21:55 GMT -5
I had GA in Pittsburgh, an I recommend standing in a bend in the stage, if that makes sense. There's the middle main stage and secondary stages on each end. Go in between the main stage and a side stage, you see from far more than I imagine infront of one stage. Okay, I'm seeing her tomorrow night and need some advice! What time did you arrive for the show? We should be there around the time doors open, think that will be good for a good spot in the pit? How could it be a bad time? You're there when the doors are opening. My advice is, if you're worried about it, get there as early as you can (when they open the doors).
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 16, 2016 22:27:26 GMT -5
Okay, I'm seeing her tomorrow night and need some advice! What time did you arrive for the show? We should be there around the time doors open, think that will be good for a good spot in the pit? How could it be a bad time? You're there when the doors are opening. My advice is, if you're worried about it, get there as early as you can (when they open the doors). Wouldn't it make sense to wanna get there earlier? I mean, a line usually forms for concerts before the doors open to the venue so if you get there when they're opening, you're not going to be the first one into the building...
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Mar 16, 2016 22:44:09 GMT -5
CB has grown on me but at first impression it seemed like a second rate JADxTBC without as much of a hook as the former or as much attitude as the latter. I guess it's doing the best on streaming of the non-released songs though? On Carrie's Spotify page, "Church Bells" is the 3rd song that comes up on her popular list from the album after "Heartbeat" and "Smoke Break". So I guess that means it's the most streamed after those? If i'm not mistaken, a lot of fans were streaming CB back on the first 2 weeks of Storyteller release to keep SPS high, because CB is the shortest song.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 16, 2016 22:45:46 GMT -5
How could it be a bad time? You're there when the doors are opening. My advice is, if you're worried about it, get there as early as you can (when they open the doors). Wouldn't it make sense to wanna get there earlier? I mean, a line usually forms for concerts before the doors open to the venue so if you get there when they're opening, you're not going to be the first one into the building... Yes, good point. From previous concerts though, as long as you are there (and by there I mean, in line) you usually have no problem getting a good area in the open seating spots. But if they're worried, I would show up 45 before the doors open.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Mar 17, 2016 2:06:30 GMT -5
^^ Never understood the love for Quitter. Sure, it's cute and would've been a hit based on Carrie's name, but it sounded like a Taylor Swift reject (when she was still country), imo. As for Do You Think About Me, Good in Goodbye and Wine After Whiskey, I still have not forgiven Carrie's team for snubbing all three. ![:sip:](//storage.proboards.com/1258812/images/WfP77sf444N0bFhVzFU1.gif) Agree with the entire post. Didn't see the love for "Quitter" either, and I'll never forgive the label for not giving DYTAM and WAW a chance at radio... Ahh! My three favorite songs from BA, which is easily my favorite Carrie album. ❤️
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 4:44:13 GMT -5
I had GA in Pittsburgh, an I recommend standing in a bend in the stage, if that makes sense. There's the middle main stage and secondary stages on each end. Go in between the main stage and a side stage, you see from far more than I imagine infront of one stage. Okay, I'm seeing her tomorrow night and need some advice! What time did you arrive for the show? We should be there around the time doors open, think that will be good for a good spot in the pit? You should be fine. We got there around twenty after six and got like two or three people from the stage. But get in a spot where the main, middle stage meets a catwalk. It will form a little corner, much better views.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Mar 17, 2016 9:01:50 GMT -5
But I regardless, I can't help but wonder - as I'm sure all fanbases do - what Carrie's career would be like if they released songs that her fans truly wanted released. It's as easy as going on these message boards. Basing single choices based on message board postings from the not-necessarily representative sampling of anyone's most invested fans is not the smart play if the goal is to figure out the material most likely to play well with the current mainstream country market. Particularly if said invested fans are not thought to be as representative of the current mainstream country market as they were five to ten years ago. This NPR column by Jewly Hight does an excellent job of tracking one of the shifts in mainstream country's sonic palette, specifically the turn away from the earnest, arena-filling bigness of vocals and overall sound that characterized much of Carrie's work to more laid-back, "cool" singing and instrumentation. She does make note of Carrie changing up her approach on Storyteller in the article, but she has discussed Carrie's experimentation and savvy in more detail in this Vulture article that I believe jenglisbe has previously posted and in her Storyteller review for Billboard. I've mentioned previously ( here and here, among other times) that I think a major part of the enthusiasm gap between radio and Carrie's core fanbase on "Smoke Break" and "Heartbeat" is that the two singles represent Carrie fleshing out a more grounded sound and persona for current country radio when throughout the Blown Away and Greatest Hits: Decade #1 eras, she was able to get away with catering to the more epic preferences of her core fanbase while going against the grain at country radio. Personally, I think that "Dirty Laundry" does the best job of any song on the album of reflecting the "cooler," more laid back sound of the most buzzy new country while still hewing to a signature Carrie feel (but for its booming chorus, "Chaser" really works in this vein as well). But "Church Bells" works pretty well in its own right, and it's a weightier lyric. Having more than the first couple singles planned before an album's release, in my opinion, is foolish. Get some feedback first. I do agree with this, but keep in mind that labels have been known to get feedback from programmers about preferred singles and to do internal testing (as was the case with "Something in the Water," where the label was concerned that its religious content would be a hindrance in the current country radio climate). Besides, if "Church Bells" is the next Storyteller single, Spotify and YouTube streams suggest that the label is in fact paying attention to fan preferences, or that it was right about them in the first place. I don't have current daily activity for Carrie's YouTube streams, but "Church Bells" trails only "What I Never Knew I Always Wanted" (which was uploaded a few days earlier) in total streams among the Storyteller non-singles on Carrie's VEVO channel. On Spotify, "Church Bells" continues to pick up the most daily streams of any non-single from Storyteller. I've placed the average daily Spotify streams since 13 February 2016 in parentheses after the total numbers, to give a sense of current streaming activity (note: these are calculated on the assumption that the Spotify numbers I saw last night were current): "Renegade Runaway" 2,230,445 (8,285/day) "Dirty Laundry" 1,522,196 (7,661/day) "Church Bells" 1,790,960 (10,199/day) "Heartbeat" 12,362,909 (125,740/day) "Smoke Break" 12,182,384 (32,771/day) "Choctaw County Affair" 1,281,687 (6,782/day) "Like I'll Never Love You Again" 1,283,092 (6,634/day) "Chaser" 1,324,643 (6,717/day) "Relapse" 1,619,162 (8,195/day) "Clock Don't Stop" 1,225,773 (6,307/day) "The Girl You Think I Am" 1,422,478 (7,543/day) "Mexico" 1,019,932 (5,182/day) "What I Never Knew I Always Wanted" 1,658,476 (8,066/day) So as mentioned, among non-singles, "Church Bells" is the leader for daily streams, followed by "Renegade Runaway," "Relapse" and "What I Never Knew I Always Wanted," which are clustered pretty closely together. That cluster is followed by "Dirty Laundry" and "The Girl You Think I Am." "Choctaw County Affair" has actually picked up slightly in daily streams over the past month -- perhaps a tour effect. Meanwhile, "Mexico" remains the distant laggard in streams on both YouTube and Spotify.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 17, 2016 10:02:59 GMT -5
Are fans the best measure, though? Singles are meant for a more general audience or even to bring in people who don't normally listen to the artist.
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Post by surfy on Mar 17, 2016 14:24:27 GMT -5
Church Bells, Dirty Laundry, and Relapse would be FLAWLESS at this point, since I was disappointed by the first two singles.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Mar 17, 2016 18:28:17 GMT -5
I had GA in Pittsburgh, an I recommend standing in a bend in the stage, if that makes sense. There's the middle main stage and secondary stages on each end. Go in between the main stage and a side stage, you see from far more than I imagine infront of one stage. Okay, I'm seeing her tomorrow night and need some advice! What time did you arrive for the show? We should be there around the time doors open, think that will be good for a good spot in the pit? There were hundreds of people there super early when I saw her in Greensboro. I didn't have tickets to the pit, but you'd have to be there several hours early to be one of the first in the door. However, that's not to say you won't get a good spot in the pit. That depends on how many entrances there are for the arena, the size of the venue, if the pit is sold out or not, and how lucky you get. But Carrie works the stage really well and plays to all sides pretty fairly so you should get great pictures from anywhere in the pit.
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Post by desertfloods on Mar 17, 2016 20:52:32 GMT -5
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Post by Massikur2 on Mar 18, 2016 0:33:35 GMT -5
Back to the Play On comment, I have to respectfully disagree that such had the best collection of potential singles. Carrie Underwood is my favorite artist by far, but that album is hardly listenable for my sensibilities and I feel the set's apparent discord stems from the tension between what she wanted to do and what was expected of her. Originally, she claimed the album would have a decidedly more 'country' feel to it, and while that comes across in some aspects, the effort is undercut by poor track selections. Without undermining her talent, I have to admit that I thought some of the songs were flat-out bad. "Temporary Home," "Mama's Song," "Play On," "Songs Like This," and the perennially disconcerting "Undo It" were far below the standard Carrie had set forth on her previous albums, particularly Carnival Ride. When I reflect on PO, I think of an artist in transition from one sonic profile to the next, with the artistic shift being realized on Blown Away. This remains, of course, my humble opinion.
Storyteller is a beautiful continuation of what Blown Away sought to accomplish. It's a solid set with many potential single choices, which bodes well for the label if they are seriously considering going 5+ singles deep. While I'm disappointed to hear that "Church Bells" may be the next radio selection rather than "Dirty Laundry," I have no doubt that it will achieve considerable success. As I continue to state, however, there has to be some point where "Choctaw County Affair" is released, because that song is too well-written and performed to be confined to the album.
On a concluding note, it will be nice to see a non-Carrie co-write shipped to radio. If either "Church Bells" or "Dirty Laundry" is to be released, it will be the first song since "Blown Away" that was not written by her in some capacity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the label preferring her penned songs to represent the album at radio over others, but it will be a nice change of pace.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Mar 18, 2016 3:03:35 GMT -5
Looks like CHURCH BELLS is the next single because many stations are already playing it and put it on their playlist.
Well, DIRTY LAUNDRY can postpone its slayage and let CHURCH BELLS rules first. Bring on sassy Carrie!!!!!
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Post by carriefan15 on Mar 18, 2016 3:05:44 GMT -5
Back to the Play On comment, I have to respectfully disagree that such had the best collection of potential singles. Carrie Underwood is my favorite artist by far, but that album is hardly listenable for my sensibilities and I feel the set's apparent discord stems from the tension between what she wanted to do and what was expected of her. Originally, she claimed the album would have a decidedly more 'country' feel to it, and while that comes across in some aspects, the effort is undercut by poor track selections. Without undermining her talent, I have to admit that I thought some of the songs were flat-out bad. "Temporary Home," "Mama's Song," "Play On," "Songs Like This," and the perennially disconcerting "Undo It" were far below the standard Carrie had set forth on her previous albums, particularly Carnival Ride. When I reflect on PO, I think of an artist in transition from one sonic profile to the next, with the artistic shift being realized on Blown Away. This remains, of course, my humble opinion. Storyteller is a beautiful continuation of what Blown Away sought to accomplish. It's a solid set with many potential single choices, which bodes well for the label if they are seriously considering going 5+ singles deep. While I'm disappointed to hear that "Church Bells" may be the next radio selection rather than "Dirty Laundry," I have no doubt that it will achieve considerable success. As I continue to state, however, there has to be some point where "Choctaw County Affair" is released, because that song is too well-written and performed to be confined to the album. On a concluding note, it will be nice to see a non-Carrie co-write shipped to radio. If either "Church Bells" or "Dirty Laundry" is to be released, it will be the first song since "Blown Away" that was not written by her in some capacity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the label preferring her penned songs to represent the album at radio over others, but it will be a nice change of pace. Just curious what songs from Carnival Ride you think had the potential to be hit singles. Get Out Of This Town is really the only one that I think would have done really well. I Know You Won't, while a wonderful showcase of Carrie's vocals, is just way too repetitive for radio. And I think Flat On The Floor would have had a high burn rate. If you aren't a fan of Undo It and the likes, I am guessing you weren't crazy about The More Boys I Meet either?
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Post by cufan7 on Mar 18, 2016 8:23:45 GMT -5
Thanks Dudley for the response. Love your contributions to this site, always informative. What is your opinion on "Choctaw" being released?
Also, with the talk about singles catered to radio, I feel like it's appropriate to discuss Miranda's singles. She is on the same label, but I would say that songs like "Smokin and Drinkin", "Fine Tune" and "Little Red Wagon" are all risky singles to send to radio. And where they didn't pan well for her, why were they released when there were other singles obviously better for country radio left on the album? Are they managed by different radio teams, or what? I feel like if "Choctaw" was a Miranda song, no doubt it would be left an album track.
Granted, I realize Carrie's track record on Country radio is much more consistent than that of Miranda's. And where Carrie has released singles that are quite different from what Country radio is playing, why are they staying pretty safe (so far) this era? I just feel like from an artist like Carrie, with her position of power and consistency at radio (for 10 years), they can take some risks such as CCA. Where SITW, as a whole, is - in my opinion - a risk, CCA is a risk in the sense that it is more... Traditional? It reminds me of leaving "Wine After Whiskey" an album track. I know I'm just ranting. Just very curious about the line of artistry vs. commercialism that Carrie is walking. Regardless, thankful that Carrie can do both well.
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Post by Gray. on Mar 18, 2016 8:56:48 GMT -5
Church Bells, Dirty Laundry, and Relapse would be FLAWLESS at this point, since I was disappointed by the first two singles. I love "Relapse." One of the best songs on the album IMO. If "Renegade Runaway" gets a single release and "Relapse" doesn't...
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Post by ant on Mar 18, 2016 9:02:11 GMT -5
Is there anything different about this version? I couldn't tell lol.
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Post by jonathanalan on Mar 18, 2016 10:00:35 GMT -5
Okay, I'm seeing her tomorrow night and need some advice! What time did you arrive for the show? We should be there around the time doors open, think that will be good for a good spot in the pit? You should be fine. We got there around twenty after six and got like two or three people from the stage. But get in a spot where the main, middle stage meets a catwalk. It will form a little corner, much better views. Worked like a charm!! Actually got in right when Swon Brothers were starting, walked all the way to the other side of the stage and stood a little off from the center. Awesome view! Thanks for the tips. She was amazing as usual!
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Post by realityBITES on Mar 18, 2016 10:06:42 GMT -5
Don't like Church Bells at all for the next single. DL is way catchier. And why make an album with a different sound and not release any of those songs?
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Post by Gray. on Mar 18, 2016 11:28:18 GMT -5
Don't like Church Bells at all for the next single. DL is way catchier. And why make an album with a different sound and not release any of those songs? The story in the lyrics is also so similar to "Two Black Cadillacs" except instead of killing a cheater, she kills an abusive husband. Murder/assault is hardly a new topic for a Carrie single.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 12:19:28 GMT -5
You should be fine. We got there around twenty after six and got like two or three people from the stage. But get in a spot where the main, middle stage meets a catwalk. It will form a little corner, much better views. Worked like a charm!! Actually got in right when Swon Brothers were starting, walked all the way to the other side of the stage and stood a little off from the center. Awesome view! Thanks for the tips. She was amazing as usual! Glad it worked out! She was amazing, and so were the views.
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Post by Massikur2 on Mar 18, 2016 14:26:30 GMT -5
Just curious what songs from Carnival Ride you think had the potential to be hit singles. Get Out Of This Town is really the only one that I think would have done really well. I Know You Won't, while a wonderful showcase of Carrie's vocals, is just way too repetitive for radio. And I think Flat On The Floor would have had a high burn rate. If you aren't a fan of Undo It and the likes, I am guessing you weren't crazy about The More Boys I Meet either? I actually thought "Flat on the Floor" begged to be released, and "Get Out of This Town" and "You Won't Find This" would have been great singles as well. I remember Arista Nashville using Carrie's MySpace page to gauge how well songs were doing among listeners, and at one point they requested that people vote for a song they'd like to see released next. A few months later, "I Told You So" ft. Randy Travis impacted radio. While I agree that it was a solid single choice, I would have preferred that they send the album cut that featured Vince Gill's elegant background vocals to radio rather than the halfhearted duet. As far as "The More Boys I Meet" is concerned, I always have and will adore that song. It's fun, bubbly, and has great personality. It is far above "Undo It" in every way imaginable. ;)
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Post by Stephen on Mar 18, 2016 15:37:51 GMT -5
So, I'm pretty shocked at people being upset over CB being next. I think this song is one of the stronger ones on the record and, tbh, I find it is a much better song than TBC. Look, I love Carrie's writing and I appreciated her effort in TBC - the story was intriguing and the "twist" was certainly amusing, but the song structure didn't work. I felt like the song worked much better as an album track or even a prologue than a single. CB has a devastating story (I got chills the first time I heard the second verse), a catchy hook, perfect phrasing on Carrie's part, and the production is just enough Mark Bright bombast without the wall of sound that the melody instantly sticks in your head - especially the percussion. Don't like Church Bells at all for the next single. DL is way catchier. And why make an album with a different sound and not release any of those songs? I mean, I can't think of a single song in Carrie's catalog that SB or HB sound like, tbh. I get the frustration over not having DL, CCA, and Relapse as singles (although I think 2/3 might be next), but I think had everyone been more on board with the second single, this song would make more sense as a third single. I think this will be another huge hit for her and, honestly, this song stands a good chance of winning her a Grammy for Country Vocal considering the subject matter and her perfect phrasing.
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Post by neally on Mar 18, 2016 16:07:04 GMT -5
So, I'm pretty shocked at people being upset over CB being next. I think this song is one of the stronger ones on the record and, tbh, I find it is a much better song than TBC. Look, I love Carrie's writing and I appreciated her effort in TBC - the story was intriguing and the "twist" was certainly amusing, but the song structure didn't work. I felt like the song worked much better as an album track or even a prologue than a single. CB has a devastating story (I got chills the first time I heard the second verse), a catchy hook, perfect phrasing on Carrie's part, and the production is just enough Mark Bright bombast without the wall of sound that the melody instantly sticks in your head - especially the percussion. Don't like Church Bells at all for the next single. DL is way catchier. And why make an album with a different sound and not release any of those songs? I mean, I can't think of a single song in Carrie's catalog that SB or HB sound like, tbh. I get the frustration over not having DL, CCA, and Relapse as singles (although I think 2/3 might be next), but I think had everyone been more on board with the second single, this song would make more sense as a third single. I think this will be another huge hit for her and, honestly, this song stands a good chance of winning her a Grammy for Country Vocal considering the subject matter and her perfect phrasing.100% Agree.
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Post by ant on Mar 18, 2016 18:34:52 GMT -5
Church Bells, Dirty Laundry, and Relapse would be FLAWLESS at this point, since I was disappointed by the first two singles. I love "Relapse." One of the best songs on the album IMO. If "Renegade Runaway" gets a single release and "Relapse" doesn't... I think "Dirty Laundry" will follow "Church Bells" as the 4th single, and "Renegade Runaway" will close out the era. I think they are going in reverse order on the album's track listing for the singles (tracks 5-1), not to mention that those 5 songs are the ones that had their own themed rooms at the album's release party.
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Post by Gray. on Mar 18, 2016 19:02:05 GMT -5
I love "Relapse." One of the best songs on the album IMO. If "Renegade Runaway" gets a single release and "Relapse" doesn't... I think "Dirty Laundry" will follow "Church Bells" as the 4th single, and "Renegade Runaway" will close out the era. I think they are going in reverse order on the album's track listing for the singles (tracks 5-1), not to mention that those 5 songs are the ones that had their own themed rooms at the album's release party. The themed rooms are a much more compelling argument than reverse order 5-1 in the track list. I truly don't think that matters. Ever.
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Post by desertfloods on Mar 18, 2016 19:21:10 GMT -5
So, I'm pretty shocked at people being upset over CB being next. I think this song is one of the stronger ones on the record and, tbh, I find it is a much better song than TBC. Look, I love Carrie's writing and I appreciated her effort in TBC - the story was intriguing and the "twist" was certainly amusing, but the song structure didn't work. I felt like the song worked much better as an album track or even a prologue than a single. CB has a devastating story (I got chills the first time I heard the second verse), a catchy hook, perfect phrasing on Carrie's part, and the production is just enough Mark Bright bombast without the wall of sound that the melody instantly sticks in your head - especially the percussion. Don't like Church Bells at all for the next single. DL is way catchier. And why make an album with a different sound and not release any of those songs? I mean, I can't think of a single song in Carrie's catalog that SB or HB sound like, tbh. I get the frustration over not having DL, CCA, and Relapse as singles (although I think 2/3 might be next), but I think had everyone been more on board with the second single, this song would make more sense as a third single. I think this will be another huge hit for her and, honestly, this song stands a good chance of winning her a Grammy for Country Vocal considering the subject matter and her perfect phrasing. I agree that CB is more cleverly-written than TBC. I prefer CB slightly as well, but it's unfortunate that the public heard TBC first (not that it's a bad song). After BA and TBC last era, CB is going to feel like just another murder song from Carrie. It will be a shame if CB makes less impact simply because of the impression of repetitive theme. I can only hope you will be right about CB being a huge hit, because as we all know, perfect vocals is not the only factor for a Grammy win.
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Post by carriefan15 on Mar 18, 2016 20:05:50 GMT -5
Just curious what songs from Carnival Ride you think had the potential to be hit singles. Get Out Of This Town is really the only one that I think would have done really well. I Know You Won't, while a wonderful showcase of Carrie's vocals, is just way too repetitive for radio. And I think Flat On The Floor would have had a high burn rate. If you aren't a fan of Undo It and the likes, I am guessing you weren't crazy about The More Boys I Meet either? I actually thought "Flat on the Floor" begged to be released, and "Get Out of This Town" and "You Won't Find This" would have been great singles as well. I remember Arista Nashville using Carrie's MySpace page to gauge how well songs were doing among listeners, and at one point they requested that people vote for a song they'd like to see released next. A few months later, "I Told You So" ft. Randy Travis impacted radio. While I agree that it was a solid single choice, I would have preferred that they send the album cut that featured Vince Gill's elegant background vocals to radio rather than the halfhearted duet. As far as "The More Boys I Meet" is concerned, I always have and will adore that song. It's fun, bubbly, and has great personality. It is far above "Undo It" in every way imaginable. ;) Haha I love TMBIM too!!! I am so sad GOOTT wasn't a single ;( I think Carrie needs to release an album of the songs that should have been singles. It would be the most perfect album
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Mar 19, 2016 0:04:09 GMT -5
What is your opinion on "Choctaw" being released? Oh, I'll be braying for its release as a single as this era wears on, even though my personal taste doesn't track with a lot of what works on current country radio. How would it do? I have no idea. I'm inclined to think that country radio programmers wouldn't embrace it as a smash out of the gate, and would want to look at research and sales before taking it beyond the top-20. I'm interested to see if "Choctaw" builds up more streaming interest on account of Carrie's tour performances of the song; it strikes me as the kind of song that will need to come at radio with built-in momentum to have a chance. Regardless of whether "Choctaw"'s a single, I would really love to see Carrie perform it at a major TV showcase. Also, with the talk about singles catered to radio, I feel like it's appropriate to discuss Miranda's singles. She is on the same label, but I would say that songs like "Smokin and Drinkin", "Fine Tune" and "Little Red Wagon" are all risky singles to send to radio. And where they didn't pan well for her, why were they released when there were other singles obviously better for country radio left on the album? Are they managed by different radio teams, or what? I feel like if "Choctaw" was a Miranda song, no doubt it would be left an album track. Was "Fine Tune" ever a single? I don't remember that. As I recall, the Four the Record singles were "Baggage Claim," "Over You," "Fastest Girl in Town," "Mama's Broken Heart" and "All Kinds of Kinds." "All Kinds of Kinds" was little more than a replacement for "Hush Hush" when the Pistol Annies had their implosion and suddenly just stopped; I think Sony Nashville just transferred their Pistol Annies promotional budget back over to Miranda. In any event, I've said before that I think the single choices from Miranda's albums during the Overton years (for her last two albums, in other words) really sandbagged her album performances. Not all the picks were off, but at least half were head-scratchers for me. I will say that while I thought that Platinum was a really good album, I never thought that it had anything approaching a big hit, so it was understandable to me that the label may have struggled with single choices there (but I still think that it chose poorly). But generally speaking, I think the approach with Miranda's singles is to have an "award" song (i.e., the song that will fulfill the role of "ACM/CMA Song/Single nominee/winner because Miranda") for each of two CMA/ACM cycles and to rely on that to sustain the album as much as whatever radio exposure there is for her singles. Not that Carrie doesn't do awards bait-singles; I think she does try to have a single per Grammy cycle that can at least get her a Grammy nomination to gain her a performance slot on the show. And where Carrie has released singles that are quite different from what Country radio is playing, why are they staying pretty safe (so far) this era? Because the market has shifted, because the market just spent the past year being reminded that Carrie has been around for ten years and because country radio is finally committing to support of other, younger female artists. It's not that Carrie has to play defense -- she isn't. But I think there's some bridge-building going on. Sending the message that she can adapt and thrive at radio amid shifting demographics and new sonic trends seems to have been a priority with the first two Storyteller singles. Moreover, the new Sony Nashville leadership no doubt feels the pressure to establish itself at radio via Carrie's album, which was its first high-profile release. I just feel like from an artist like Carrie, with her position of power and consistency at radio (for 10 years), they can take some risks such as CCA. I agree that they can and should, and perhaps they will after a run of new era hits. Perhaps Carrie's airplay streak is a bit of an albatross, where the label is reluctant to release anything that might challenge that streak out of concern for a perceived loss of momentum (which can be of especial concern for a female artist). Personally, I think that a song like "Choctaw" would generate enough buzz that it would more than offset a lower airplay peak and it's the kind of song that could naturally free up Carrie to be more like Eric Church, who alternates between riskier needle-movers that often don't run to the top and more conventional radio-targeted fare and has built his reputation as a guy to whom the normal rules of momentum don't apply. But that's not going to happen overnight, especially because there is a pretty big perception gap between the two and Carrie is seen as a more conventional hitmaker. And her chart record suggests that she is, but I agree that her risks have gone under-recognized (partially because she, unlike some, isn't in the business of drawing attention to them, but also because alternative- and rock-leaning "risks" are generally more easily recognized than Carrie's more mainstream/orchestral/pop variants).
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Post by carriefan15 on Mar 19, 2016 0:22:06 GMT -5
^ just want to say I thoroughly enjoy reading all of your detailed posts!! I apologize if you've already discussed this at some point, but which songs do you think will be released from Storyteller? Do you think we will have any surprises? like The Girl You Think I Am or Relapse or Mexico?
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