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Post by Active Aggressive on May 31, 2024 14:14:04 GMT -5
Ugh, I was really looking forward to seeing her in concert for the first time. I convinced my coworker to go with me, since tickets were only $25. "Spending time with family" is deliberately vague - could be taking care of divorce or helping Ben through a relapse, if, indeed, that's the issue. Time will tell. I pray all is well, either way.
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Post by think pink. on May 31, 2024 14:21:38 GMT -5
I really don't understand why ticket sales were so low. She had the "It's My Party" tour in 2019 and that seemed to do well. I know it's the thing to hate her right now but she was still successful touring wise when 5 years ago. I know it's mostly chronically online people spewing the hatred but they are not the only ones buying (or I guess not buying) the tickets. I just do not get it. Ticket sales were not low though. 75% sold out with a month still left to go. It was selling at the exact same pace as the It's My Party tour which eventually sold out in the end closer to the dates. Nobody is cancelling a tour with these numbers. I was actually looking forward to the tour starting to quiet the narrative that Variety started about it not selling. But now cancelling it all together Is just going to further push that narrative and give haters all the ammo they've been already creaming over the past few months. I pray for her mental health. A media/GP onslaught is bad enough but possible marriage/family issues as well makes it worse. ETA. Not to mention she literally posted being in rehearsals the other day. Something really bad must've happened.
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 31, 2024 14:52:36 GMT -5
Ugh, that sucks. This has been such a tumultuous year. Some really good stuff in the mix, but the bad seems to be sucking up all the attention. And she's had such an aggressive schedule over the past year, probably best to step back and tend to family/business.
But we love a comeback queen. I hope Kiss Of The Spider Woman is the ace in the pocket she needs, there's so much potential for that film and role.
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Post by think pink. on Jun 1, 2024 15:56:58 GMT -5
LMAO. The AUDACITY! They were the ones that spear headed this false narrative that further added to the pile on of hate she's been receiving and actually made it worse. Along with their article about her needing to "age gracefully" written by a man that haters lapped up even more. This is like when the same media outlets and journalists went "oops, our bad lolz" after the #FreeBritney movement started. Save me your think pieces.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jun 1, 2024 15:59:16 GMT -5
*edit* OMG, posted the same exact thing. Nice of them to have a kinda/sorta moment of clarity after joining the dog-pile. This would have been way more meaningful months ago.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jun 1, 2024 16:08:11 GMT -5
I really don't understand why ticket sales were so low. She had the "It's My Party" tour in 2019 and that seemed to do well. I know it's the thing to hate her right now but she was still successful touring wise when 5 years ago. I know it's mostly chronically online people spewing the hatred but they are not the only ones buying (or I guess not buying) the tickets. I just do not get it. Ticket sales were not low though. 75% sold out with a month still left to go. It was selling at the exact same pace as the It's My Party tour which eventually sold out in the end closer to the dates. Nobody is cancelling a tour with these numbers. I was actually looking forward to the tour starting to quiet the narrative that Variety started about it not selling. But now cancelling it all together Is just going to further push that narrative and give haters all the ammo they've been already creaming over the past few months. I pray for her mental health. A media/GP onslaught is bad enough but possible marriage/family issues as well makes it worse. ETA. Not to mention she literally posted being in rehearsals the other day. Something really bad must've happened. I looked at the venue floorplans on TicketMaster, and the vast majority of shows were 30-50% sold, if that. It was a sea of blue. So, they're lying.
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Post by think pink. on Jun 1, 2024 16:14:48 GMT -5
Ticket sales were not low though. 75% sold out with a month still left to go. It was selling at the exact same pace as the It's My Party tour which eventually sold out in the end closer to the dates. Nobody is cancelling a tour with these numbers. I was actually looking forward to the tour starting to quiet the narrative that Variety started about it not selling. But now cancelling it all together Is just going to further push that narrative and give haters all the ammo they've been already creaming over the past few months. I pray for her mental health. A media/GP onslaught is bad enough but possible marriage/family issues as well makes it worse. ETA. Not to mention she literally posted being in rehearsals the other day. Something really bad must've happened. I looked at the venue floorplans on TicketMaster, and the vast majority of shows were 30-50% sold, if that. It was a sea of blue. So, they're lying. Shows that were still months away. She is not Taylor Swift, she was never going to sell out immediately. Majority of legacy acts never do. This was last month's update. Not bad at all and would not warrant an entire tour cancellation that is only further destroying her reputation.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jun 1, 2024 16:17:22 GMT -5
I looked at the venue floorplans on TicketMaster, and the vast majority of shows were 30-50% sold, if that. It was a sea of blue. So, they're lying. Shows that were still months away. She is not Taylor Swift, she was never going to sell out immediately. Majority of legacy acts never do. This was last month's update. Not bad at all and would not warrant an entire tour cancellation that is only further destroying her reputation. That doesn't change the fact that it definitely isn't 70% sold out like they claim.
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Post by think pink. on Jun 1, 2024 16:19:56 GMT -5
"They" are actual touring data figures, not J.Lo's team. The 70% figure is the average for the entire tour.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jun 1, 2024 16:23:22 GMT -5
"They" are actual touring data figures, not J.Lo's team. The 70% figure is the average for the entire tour. I understand the math. However, that figure still doesn't track with what's available on TicketMaster. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by think pink. on Jun 1, 2024 16:28:52 GMT -5
Ticketmaster only shows you what's available per show. TouringData (a reliable source) shows you the breakdown of how the tour is selling overall. That is where the 70% figure is coming from. Nobody is lying.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 1, 2024 18:05:15 GMT -5
Ticket sales were not low though. 75% sold out with a month still left to go. It was selling at the exact same pace as the It's My Party tour which eventually sold out in the end closer to the dates. Nobody is cancelling a tour with these numbers. I was actually looking forward to the tour starting to quiet the narrative that Variety started about it not selling. But now cancelling it all together Is just going to further push that narrative and give haters all the ammo they've been already creaming over the past few months. I pray for her mental health. A media/GP onslaught is bad enough but possible marriage/family issues as well makes it worse. ETA. Not to mention she literally posted being in rehearsals the other day. Something really bad must've happened. I looked at the venue floorplans on TicketMaster, and the vast majority of shows were 30-50% sold, if that. It was a sea of blue. So, they're lying. These three dates were the ones with the lowest sales. You can see the detailed numbers here:
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Post by George on Jun 1, 2024 22:13:22 GMT -5
I finally watched her Apple Music Live special since the tour news, and I really loved it.
Vocals, dancing, storytelling, costume changes and a live interpretation of her This Is Me…Now album and visual film.
I think it helped that I had watched the film, and have been listening to the album since its release so I knew ALL the songs in the concert and could see the emotion in her performance.
That “Dear Ben Pt. 2 / Pt. 1” was a showstopper, and I loved how much energy “Can’t Get Enough” had in this version. Also, I forgot how much I love “All I Have” and what a great moment in the show to have the fans sing a long/contest.
Missed her on her last tour, so I hope she takes the time and she considers one in the future again when she’s ready.
Was looking for a support hashtag online, and looks like #WeStandByYouJLo seems to be the main one.
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Post by Coco on Jun 2, 2024 9:47:32 GMT -5
I don't think the ticket sales is why she cancelled. I think it's true that she is going through it with her marriage and I believe the past few months of the cruel attacks is playing a role. I played along at first cause of Stan culture and jokes but seeing how cruel and unnecessarily mean the public hate has become has made me back off and realize people are basically bullying and abusing this lady. Leave her alone and let her sort out her personal life. Jennifer legacy is already made, she doesn't need validation from today's public
I appreciate the level of grace, class and professionalism she has handled. You won't catch JLo sitting on social media arguing back with toxicity. She flies above the haters
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Post by trustypepper on Jun 2, 2024 11:46:01 GMT -5
I don't think the ticket sales is why she cancelled. I think it's true that she is going through it with her marriage and I believe the past few months of the cruel attacks is playing a role. I played along at first cause of Stan culture and jokes but seeing how cruel and unnecessarily mean the public hate has become has made me back off and realize people are basically bullying and abusing this lady. Leave her alone and let her sort out her personal life. Jennifer legacy is already made, she doesn't need validation from today's public I appreciate the level of grace, class and professionalism she has handled. You won't catch JLo sitting on social media arguing back with toxicity. She flies above the haters Truly refreshing to see someone who’s usually on the other side with this perspective. I wish many others would follow suit and leave her the hell alone. I do think the recent public perception has started to get to Jenny and played a role in the cancellation. Just my personal opinion. If anything these last few months have only made me stan her more than ever. <3
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Post by avamaxstan on Jun 2, 2024 14:40:26 GMT -5
It’s wild that social media hate trains can now have enough real world impact to cancel tours and damage careers. Especially considering that it’s all being cooked up by literal nobodies who have achieved nothing in their lives and contributed nothing to society.
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Post by eyeofthestorm on Jun 2, 2024 15:08:56 GMT -5
This is so sad. Hope Jenny is doing well.
Maybe slightly off topic, but has anyone else ever noticed it seems like every time an artist features their significant other in a music video/project they break up soon afterward? Just something i’ve noticed from several celebrities over the years.
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Post by felipe on Jun 2, 2024 15:21:50 GMT -5
LMAO. The AUDACITY! They were the ones that spear headed this false narrative that further added to the pile on of hate she's been receiving and actually made it worse. Along with their article about her needing to "age gracefully" written by a man that haters lapped up even more. This is like when the same media outlets and journalists went "oops, our bad lolz" after the #FreeBritney movement started. Save me your think pieces. I'm actually not sure about this. It seems to me they must just be "pretending" to deffend her while they are actually calling her a fail on the headline, emphasizing the idea that she's flopping and lying about the "personal reasons" while also doubling down on the "See! We told you the tour would fail"
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Post by britneys on Jun 2, 2024 18:23:35 GMT -5
LMAO. The AUDACITY! They were the ones that spear headed this false narrative that further added to the pile on of hate she's been receiving and actually made it worse. Along with their article about her needing to "age gracefully" written by a man that haters lapped up even more. This is like when the same media outlets and journalists went "oops, our bad lolz" after the #FreeBritney movement started. Save me your think pieces. That's rich coming from Variety, but comparing this to the Britney situation makes no sense whatsoever. Britney in 2007 was bullied to hell and back for just exisiting. J Lo in 2024 is getting dragged for being a terrible person.
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Post by omieethehomieee on Jun 2, 2024 20:14:22 GMT -5
I hope Jennifer is taking care of her mental health right now during this time right now. It makes me so mad how she’s being treated. She’s a legend and icon. But when she passes away they’ll be the first ones trying to give her flowers and all the praise in the world.
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Post by think pink. on Jun 2, 2024 20:32:11 GMT -5
LMAO. The AUDACITY! They were the ones that spear headed this false narrative that further added to the pile on of hate she's been receiving and actually made it worse. Along with their article about her needing to "age gracefully" written by a man that haters lapped up even more. This is like when the same media outlets and journalists went "oops, our bad lolz" after the #FreeBritney movement started. Save me your think pieces. That's rich coming from Variety, but comparing this to the Britney situation makes no sense whatsoever. Britney in 2007 was bullied to hell and back for just exisiting. J Lo in 2024 is getting dragged for being a terrible person. “The terrible person” angle is the excuse they make for justifying their unhinged hate spewing they’ve been doing of her consistently for the last 6 months. Majority of viral videos having nothing to do with her being a supposed tErRible person. That wasn’t even what they were initially attacking her for. Suddenly now everyone knew a person who knew a person who had an uncle who said JLO was a horrible person because she didn’t smile or speak to them. Look at how they acted to her Met Gala appearance as a prime example of what they consider to be “rude” and “terrible” behaviour coming from a woman.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 3, 2024 6:23:37 GMT -5
RIAA.com:
JENNIFER LOPEZ Title: LET'S GET LOUD Certification Date: May 31, 2024 Label: EPIC Format: SINGLE Gold Platinum
JENNIFER LOPEZ Title: WAITING FOR TONIGHT Certification Date: May 31, 2024 Label: EPIC Format: SINGLE Gold Platinum
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Post by trustypepper on Jun 3, 2024 7:25:21 GMT -5
2 absolute classics 💿
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Post by divasummer on Jun 3, 2024 9:15:34 GMT -5
I’m assuming something personal is going on with J Lo. I can’t imagine bad ticket sales being the reason for her canceling a tour. Even if you don’t like her music that much. There’s no denying her excellent performance skills. Plus she’s J Lo. I’m sure plenty of casual fans would go see her in concert.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jun 3, 2024 12:58:20 GMT -5
The “terrible person” angle is just a pile on. Those stories have existed forever and I think she even went about trying to self-correct her behavior so that didn’t continue happening. So all those stories are probably fairly old anyway. Listen, that tour was WAY too ambitious for someone at her level. Also, no one mentioned a thing when I just got my Janet Jackson tickets for $25. I don’t see news articles about that. The tour could’ve/shoudve been scaled back. The fact that that didn’t happen makes me believe these separation rumors are true and it IS personal time that she needs now.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jun 3, 2024 13:05:10 GMT -5
Yeah you don't cancel with those numbers. Consolidate dates maybe.
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Post by felipe on Jun 3, 2024 16:32:25 GMT -5
The “terrible person” angle is just a pile on. Those stories have existed forever and I think she even went about trying to self-correct her behavior so that didn’t continue happening. So all those stories are probably fairly old anyway. Listen, that tour was WAY too ambitious for someone at her level. Also, no one mentioned a thing when I just got my Janet Jackson tickets for $25. I don’t see news articles about that. The tour could’ve/shoudve been scaled back. The fact that that didn’t happen makes me believe these separation rumors are true and it IS personal time that she needs now. I don't think JLo would cancel a tour because of a divorce. She is an example of professionalism. However, from the clips at the MET Gala and the Atlas interviews, she didn't look alright. She seemed tense or sad on most of the videos.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 3, 2024 17:26:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean those tour numbers don't seem low enough alone to justify canceling an entire tour so I'd say there is more to it than that.
I always hate bullying of any nature, but especially when it's nation-wide via social media at the expense of a celebrity who people routinely refuse to see, or worse choose to negate the humanity in. What's truly ironic in this case is they feel the need to tear this woman down for supposedly being a "rude/mean" person.....by being incredibly viciously mean and rude themselves. The psychology behind people building up celebrities/even people generally just to tear them back down needs to be studied.
I have never seen another artist whose talent is regularly and almost commonly dismissed by any and everyone as it is with Jennifer. The woman can act her ass off. She has a voice and can sing. Is she Whitney Houston? No. She doesn't have to be. Range doesn't keep Britney or Selena or other artists being respected as singers. And to top it off she's one hell of a trained dancer. She's long been a solid definition of the "triple threat". Yet people are constantly saying she has no voice, she can't act, and they don't even really acknowledge her prowess as a skilled dancer (she's just as strong of a dancer if not more skilled than say Beyonce). It's odd to me. Always has been. For as huge of a star she is, she is incredibly underrated/not taken seriously. It's absurd.
Regardless, IDC, I'll always love Jennifer. She's one of the select few icons of the 21st century we have IMO and the only thing her detractors are doing is setting her up for a redemption arc.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 3, 2024 17:37:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really get this. She performed at the Super Bowl, has #1 hits, iconic roles, and 'invented' Google Images...nothing left to prove, haters are just jealous.
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Post by think pink. on Jun 3, 2024 17:46:55 GMT -5
The rewriting of her career, impact and achievements has been one of the most annoying things about this whole hate campaign. You don't have to like her, but to deny her legacy and the barriers she broke as a Latina in Hollywood is infuriating.
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