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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 11, 2015 10:26:02 GMT -5
Does Cole, Chris or Carrie have a max spins ad floating around yet? If Cole is the only one, then obviously they are pushing. I just hope Smoke Break can fend off the rest of the top 10 if she does indeed have to wait for Cole and Chris to hit #1 first. Carrie's races to the top always seem to be exciting lately.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 11, 2015 11:23:45 GMT -5
Does Cole, Chris or Carrie have a max spins ad floating around yet? If Cole is the only one, then obviously they are pushing. I just hope Smoke Break can fend off the rest of the top 10 if she does indeed have to wait for Cole and Chris to hit #1 first. Carrie's races to the top always seem to be exciting lately. Cole and Chris do, Carrie has a power up ad. |
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Post by krud489 on Nov 11, 2015 12:41:21 GMT -5
I'm no expert at this stuff so correct me if I'm wrong. Cole and Chris are both gunning for #1 this week and that's a good sign for Carrie next week? Seems like Sony is trying to execute the perfect gameplan that gets both Chris and Carrie #1s on both charts? Chris' album release gives him momentum for a big push this week? It seems like Sony is anxious to get to the duet with Cassadee Pope as single #2? Just going by what I've read and how it seems things are playing out. Plus, I'm a Carrie fan trying to think positive.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 11, 2015 13:02:01 GMT -5
Since they both have a max spins ad going around, it's obvious that both are gunning for #1. Chris has a lot of ground to make up in less than 4 days so Sony better push hard if they really want that #1. It would be the best case scenario for Carrie if both pushed and peaked this weekend, with both out of the way, Carrie should be able to push into #1 the next week. I'm honestly ready for this to get the #1 and then move onto Heartbeat, which is obviously the 2nd single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 11, 2015 13:14:56 GMT -5
I know I may or may not be in the minority on this one, but I cannot get "Heartbeat" out of my head. I really hope that it is the next single! I think chances are pretty good, since lately the pre-release songs have become singles more often than not. Same. It's easily one of my favorites on the album and I fully believe it will be one of, if not the biggest, hit of this era when it gets released to radio (signs point to it possibly being next, so hopefully it'll be released either next or third). It's definitely a welcome different side of Carrie Underwood and it has a very strong chorus, lyrically and melodically that I think will go over very, very well with the country crowd. I love it so much and it's one of the tracks that sticks with me the most, for sure.  |
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 11, 2015 13:57:43 GMT -5
I know I may or may not be in the minority on this one, but I cannot get "Heartbeat" out of my head. I really hope that it is the next single! I think chances are pretty good, since lately the pre-release songs have become singles more often than not. Same. It's easily one of my favorites on the album and I fully believe it will be one of, if not the biggest, hit of this era when it gets released to radio (signs point to it possibly being next, so hopefully it'll be released either next or third). It's definitely a welcome different side of Carrie Underwood and it has a very strong chorus, lyrically and melodically that I think will go over very, very well with the country crowd. I love it so much and it's one of the tracks that sticks with me the most, for sure. Count me in, too! I definitely see huge hit potential with "Heartbeat". It's an ear worm kind of song, but it's actually REALY GOOD in addition to being a catchy radio-friendly song. I'm totally down with it being a single, and I think Winter right into Valentine's Day would be a perfect time for it on radio, too. |
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Post by krud489 on Nov 11, 2015 14:09:14 GMT -5
I agree with Heartbeat being perfect for radio and the winter season. It will probably definitely be a single, but good grief I love Renagade Runaway lol. During the BTS video for Smoke Break u see Carrie wearing a red dress that she doesn't wear in the SB video. That kind of gives me hope that they've filmed a video for RR already and it will see single treatment at some point. If Heartbeat is next though I'm cool with that and will support it 100%. Its an easy hit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 14:20:03 GMT -5
I'm just not wanting Heartbeat as a single. It screams safe radio friendly choice. Plus the lyrics while not necessarily bad are just bland. The pure pop production doesn't help matters.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 11, 2015 19:10:25 GMT -5
I'm just not wanting Heartbeat as a single. It screams safe radio friendly choice. Plus the lyrics while not necessarily bad are just bland. The pure pop production doesn't help matters. I agree about "Heartbeat" being safe and radio-friendly, but those are not inherently negative descriptors of a song. I would say George Strait's "Blue Clear Sky" is a safe, radio-friendly song. Or Alan Jackson's "Little Bitty". And I do not think anybody would describe those songs as negative contributions to the country genre despite being safe and radio-friendly. To me that description only becomes a problem when the lyrics are offensive ("Sun Daze") or just plain stupid ("Friend Zone"), the production completely abandons almost all country influences ("Burnin' It Down"), or the artist confuses "safe" with "blindly following trends in the hopes to get a hit" ("Live Forever"). I actually particularly enjoy the lyrics to "Heartbeat". To me they sound fairly unique for a love song, and they create numerous vivid images of what the relationship was like between the characters in the song. Like the fact that she is standing on the man's shoes with her bare feet listening to his heartbeat. That is such a vivid, unique, and intimate moment, which makes the lyrics automatically much better than many love songs that rely on cliches to sell their hook. As far as the production goes, I do agree that it is poppy. However, "pure" pop is absolutely not true. The poppiest thing about it is the drum beat, which actually is not as bad as it could be because it sounds like it is done on a real drum set rather than an electronic loop. But as a whole there are more country elements than pop, and they are fairly prominent. For example, the dobro and acoustic guitar that take turns selling the countermelody in the intro. Or the steel guitar that underscores all of the verses. Or the banjo that is plucking along underneath the choruses. Those things alone mean this song has way more country influence than many other popular A-list songs nowadays (such as "Strip It Down"). I also hear Carrie experimenting with her vocals in this song, like how she slightly drags "red wine, good times, no I don't mind being with everyone else" in the first verse. It is unlike anything she has ever done as a result, and just like in "Smoke Break", she doesn't have to push herself to the limits of her range to prove that she is advancing as a vocalist. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 19:32:19 GMT -5
I'm just not wanting Heartbeat as a single. It screams safe radio friendly choice. Plus the lyrics while not necessarily bad are just bland. The pure pop production doesn't help matters. I agree about "Heartbeat" being safe and radio-friendly, but those are not inherently negative descriptors of a song. I would say George Strait's "Blue Clear Sky" is a safe, radio-friendly song. Or Alan Jackson's "Little Bitty". And I do not think anybody would describe those songs as negative contributions to the country genre despite being safe and radio-friendly. To me that description only becomes a problem when the lyrics are offensive ("Sun Daze") or just plain stupid ("Friend Zone"), the production completely abandons almost all country influences ("Burnin' It Down"), or the artist confuses "safe" with "blindly following trends in the hopes to get a hit" ("Live Forever"). I actually particularly enjoy the lyrics to "Heartbeat". To me they sound fairly unique for a love song, and they create numerous vivid images of what the relationship was like between the characters in the song. Like the fact that she is standing on the man's shoes with her bare feet listening to his heartbeat. That is such a vivid, unique, and intimate moment, which makes the lyrics automatically much better than many love songs that rely on cliches to sell their hook. As far as the production goes, I do agree that it is poppy. However, "pure" pop is absolutely not true. The poppiest thing about it is the drum beat, which actually is not as bad as it could be because it sounds like it is done on a real drum set rather than an electronic loop. But as a whole there are more country elements than pop, and they are fairly prominent. For example, the dobro and acoustic guitar that take turns selling the countermelody in the intro. Or the steel guitar that underscores all of the verses. Or the banjo that is plucking along underneath the choruses. Those things alone mean this song has way more country influence than many other popular A-list songs nowadays (such as "Strip It Down"). I also hear Carrie experimenting with her vocals in this song, like how she slightly drags "red wine, good times, no I don't mind being with everyone else" in the first verse. It is unlike anything she has ever done as a result, and just like in "Smoke Break", she doesn't have to push herself to the limits of her range to prove that she is advancing as a vocalist. I just think after releasing firecracker after firecracker Blown Away, Two Black Cadillacs, See You Again, Something In The Water, Little Toy Guns, and Smoke Break. I am expecting her now to kinda go against the radio norm like she's done for a while. Maybe it is poppy and I think the song bores me. It just feels like given Carrie's streak I think a song like Choctaw County Affair, or The Girl You Think I Am, or if they even wanted a fun upbeat song I would've done Renegade Runaway or Mexico instead. Carrie's vocal sound nice but well that's a given that she can put a lot of her counterparts to shame. At the end of the day Heartbeat leaves me meh. Carrie sounds nice and the production is more bland than anything. Some nice imagery in the lyrics but it could've had a little more pull it just didn't quite hit me. I won't turn the radio off if this comes off but I'll probably more or less just listen but this song hasn't clicked yet. Sorry :| |
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Post by krud489 on Nov 11, 2015 19:43:41 GMT -5
It hasn't been confirmed Heartbeat is next has it?
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 11, 2015 19:57:23 GMT -5
It hasn't been confirmed Heartbeat is next has it? No, it hasn't. It should be pointed out that KCYY in San Antonio has added "Heartbeat" to heavy rotation recently and usually a pre-released track like "Heartbeat" is an indication it will be a single but nothing has been confirmed yet. |
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Post by musicfan134 on Nov 11, 2015 20:14:34 GMT -5
I agree about "Heartbeat" being safe and radio-friendly, but those are not inherently negative descriptors of a song. I would say George Strait's "Blue Clear Sky" is a safe, radio-friendly song. Or Alan Jackson's "Little Bitty". And I do not think anybody would describe those songs as negative contributions to the country genre despite being safe and radio-friendly. To me that description only becomes a problem when the lyrics are offensive ("Sun Daze") or just plain stupid ("Friend Zone"), the production completely abandons almost all country influences ("Burnin' It Down"), or the artist confuses "safe" with "blindly following trends in the hopes to get a hit" ("Live Forever"). I actually particularly enjoy the lyrics to "Heartbeat". To me they sound fairly unique for a love song, and they create numerous vivid images of what the relationship was like between the characters in the song. Like the fact that she is standing on the man's shoes with her bare feet listening to his heartbeat. That is such a vivid, unique, and intimate moment, which makes the lyrics automatically much better than many love songs that rely on cliches to sell their hook. As far as the production goes, I do agree that it is poppy. However, "pure" pop is absolutely not true. The poppiest thing about it is the drum beat, which actually is not as bad as it could be because it sounds like it is done on a real drum set rather than an electronic loop. But as a whole there are more country elements than pop, and they are fairly prominent. For example, the dobro and acoustic guitar that take turns selling the countermelody in the intro. Or the steel guitar that underscores all of the verses. Or the banjo that is plucking along underneath the choruses. Those things alone mean this song has way more country influence than many other popular A-list songs nowadays (such as "Strip It Down"). I also hear Carrie experimenting with her vocals in this song, like how she slightly drags "red wine, good times, no I don't mind being with everyone else" in the first verse. It is unlike anything she has ever done as a result, and just like in "Smoke Break", she doesn't have to push herself to the limits of her range to prove that she is advancing as a vocalist. I just think after releasing firecracker after firecracker Blown Away, Two Black Cadillacs, See You Again, Something In The Water, Little Toy Guns, and Smoke Break. I am expecting her now to kinda go against the radio norm like she's done for a while. Maybe it is poppy and I think the song bores me. It just feels like given Carrie's streak I think a song like Choctaw County Affair, or The Girl You Think I Am, or if they even wanted a fun upbeat song I would've done Renegade Runaway or Mexico instead. Carrie's vocal sound nice but well that's a given that she can put a lot of her counterparts to shame. At the end of the day Heartbeat leaves me meh. Carrie sounds nice and the production is more bland than anything. Some nice imagery in the lyrics but it could've had a little more pull it just didn't quite hit me. I won't turn the radio off if this comes off but I'll probably more or less just listen but this song hasn't clicked yet. Sorry :| Yes, but to go off of this, not every single song Carrie releases needs to go "against" current trends of country radio. In fact, if she wants to remain a radio darling, she really should throw them a bone or two once in a while. (Yes, Carrie is a radio darling--I know she hasn't had a number one single for a while, but let's face it--anything she releases is destined for instant top 15 status at the bare minimum. But if she abuses that too much she could lose that and then she could become like Reba/Martina, etc.) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 20:40:53 GMT -5
I just think after releasing firecracker after firecracker Blown Away, Two Black Cadillacs, See You Again, Something In The Water, Little Toy Guns, and Smoke Break. I am expecting her now to kinda go against the radio norm like she's done for a while. Maybe it is poppy and I think the song bores me. It just feels like given Carrie's streak I think a song like Choctaw County Affair, or The Girl You Think I Am, or if they even wanted a fun upbeat song I would've done Renegade Runaway or Mexico instead. Carrie's vocal sound nice but well that's a given that she can put a lot of her counterparts to shame. At the end of the day Heartbeat leaves me meh. Carrie sounds nice and the production is more bland than anything. Some nice imagery in the lyrics but it could've had a little more pull it just didn't quite hit me. I won't turn the radio off if this comes off but I'll probably more or less just listen but this song hasn't clicked yet. Sorry :| Yes, but to go off of this, not every single song Carrie releases needs to go "against" current trends of country radio. In fact, if she wants to remain a radio darling, she really should throw them a bone or two once in a while. (Yes, Carrie is a radio darling--I know she hasn't had a number one single for a while, but let's face it--anything she releases is destined for instant top 15 status at the bare minimum. But if she abuses that too much she could lose that and then she could become like Reba/Martina, etc.) Fair enough I just love artists who constantly take risks and that's why Carrie is my favorite and if they are going for radio-friendly why not Renegade Runaway. |
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 11, 2015 20:45:49 GMT -5
Yes, but to go off of this, not every single song Carrie releases needs to go "against" current trends of country radio. In fact, if she wants to remain a radio darling, she really should throw them a bone or two once in a while. (Yes, Carrie is a radio darling--I know she hasn't had a number one single for a while, but let's face it--anything she releases is destined for instant top 15 status at the bare minimum. But if she abuses that too much she could lose that and then she could become like Reba/Martina, etc.) Fair enough I just love artists who constantly take risks and that's why Carrie is my favorite and if they are going for radio-friendly why not Renegade Runaway. Well, the second single could still very easily be "Renegade Runaway". I was just saying that I enjoy "Heartbeat" and hope it is the next single, but honestly I would be very happy with RR as well! Both songs make sense, as they had by far the most pre-release hype. I bet they will both be released as singles at some point. Now we just have to wait and see what order they come in! |
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 11, 2015 20:53:47 GMT -5
Not here for "Heartbeat" or "Renegade Runaway" being the second singles. "Heartbeat" is basic and RR is a complete sonic rehash of GG and CC. 'Choctaw', "Dirty Laundry", "Church Bells", or "Relapse", please. If they want some crossover appeal and commercialism, "Relapse" is absolutely the way to go. It's exactly what this album needs, especially now that it's been out for 3 weeks and the (underperforming) lead single is nearly finished.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 12, 2015 9:46:47 GMT -5
I actually particularly enjoy the lyrics to "Heartbeat". To me they sound fairly unique for a love song, and they create numerous vivid images of what the relationship was like between the characters in the song. Like the fact that she is standing on the man's shoes with her bare feet listening to his heartbeat. That is such a vivid, unique, and intimate moment, which makes the lyrics automatically much better than many love songs that rely on cliches to sell their hook. But those aren't unique concepts/lyrics. The general use of heartbeat as a rhythm is very cliche, and of course talking about the light of fireflies is also very common. Pretty much everything in the song is a recycled concept/image. That isn't to say I dislike it, it's just to say I don't see what is so unique. I do think "Heartbeat" is radio-friendly, but that doesn't mean it will help the album. We also don't know that it will be the 2nd single, so maybe let's get back to "Smoke Break." Of course, the fact that we aren't discussing "SB" at all shows the single is dead and they need to move on. |
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Post by desertfloods on Nov 12, 2015 18:42:52 GMT -5
My vote goes to Dirty Laundry for next single. It's well-written, great for radio and sounds fresh for Carrie too. That chorus is catchy and quotable as hell.
Heartbeat can be a single much later in the era. I think it will be a mistake to follow up forgettable Smoke Break with a sweet-but-way-too-safe Heartbeat. The second single needs to smash and at the same time show some diversity too. Two mellow singles in a row makes the album sound like a snoozefest.
Not here for Renegade as single AT ALL. Enough of Cowboy Casanova/Good Girl type of singles. I love Church Bells, but I'm not too keen on it being a single either, simply because it's another murder song from Carrie, following two big ones just last era. Choctaw is at least slightly different and sounds very fresh.
ETA: While Dirty Laundry isn't something Carrie hasn't sung about before, it has been a very long gap since Before He Cheats, and I think most people actually identified Two Black Cadillacs as more of a murder revenge theme, rather than cheating. DL is definitely more relatable/believable than TBC lol, just like BHC was.
Also, Chaser and Relapse seriously need to be sent to radio somewhere!
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Post by kml567 on Nov 13, 2015 9:18:47 GMT -5
With Chris likely going #1 on both charts (Chris is currently #1 on Mediabase building chart) this week, it leaves Carrie to have an easy path to #1 next week. I'm impressed with Sony if they indeed could pull this off.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 13, 2015 9:46:25 GMT -5
With Chris likely going #1 on both charts (Chris is currently #1 on Mediabase building chart) this week, it leaves Carrie to have an easy path to #1 next week. I'm impressed with Sony if they indeed could pull this off. Assuming, of course, that Cole doesn't continue a push next week and that Blake and Dan&Shay don't gain much next week. Right now, it does look good! Fingers crossed!!! |
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Post by malwaredie on Nov 13, 2015 11:36:20 GMT -5
With Chris likely going #1 on both charts (Chris is currently #1 on Mediabase building chart) this week, it leaves Carrie to have an easy path to #1 next week. I'm impressed with Sony if they indeed could pull this off. Assuming, of course, that Cole doesn't continue a push next week and that Blake and Dan&Shay don't gain much next week. Right now, it does look good! Fingers crossed!!! Cole's song is done. Last week, Warner gave up partway through the week and just let Old Dominion take the top spot. That song won't even be running on fumes next week. It will be dead. |
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Post by Mark on Nov 13, 2015 12:29:11 GMT -5
It's exactly what this album needs, especially now that it's been out for 3 weeks and the (underperforming) lead single is nearly finished. How did SB underperform? That isn't meant to be facetious, I'm actually asking. I haven't followed Carrie's career as closely as I have in the past, but I was under the impression that Smoke Break received pretty universal praise upon its release, and it appears to be going #1 within the next week or so. It's also #59 on iTunes currently, which isn't horrible for a country song. Just curious as to why I keep reading that it underperformed. |
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 13, 2015 12:37:06 GMT -5
It's exactly what this album needs, especially now that it's been out for 3 weeks and the (underperforming) lead single is nearly finished. How did SB underperform? That isn't meant to be facetious, I'm actually asking. I haven't followed Carrie's career as closely as I have in the past, but I was under the impression that Smoke Break received pretty universal praise upon its release, and it appears to be going #1 within the next week or so. It's also #59 on iTunes currently, which isn't horrible for a country song. Just curious as to why I keep reading that it underperformed. Sales-wise, more than anything else. At around its peak, an Underwood single has typically passed the Gold certification threshold of 500k. This one just recently got halfway there. Just doesn't feel like it's been an eventful single after its first week of release, which isn't the best thing to happen for a lead single. |
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 13, 2015 13:32:27 GMT -5
With Chris likely going #1 on both charts (Chris is currently #1 on Mediabase building chart) this week, it leaves Carrie to have an easy path to #1 next week. I'm impressed with Sony if they indeed could pull this off. Assuming, of course, that Cole doesn't continue a push next week and that Blake and Dan&Shay don't gain much next week. Right now, it does look good! Fingers crossed!!! Yeah like was mentioned before, "Let Me See Ya Girl's" push was this week (there was a power up for #1 ad in Country Aircheck). If RCA/Sony Nashville is able to pull off the massive push they're doing, Cole will likely be blocked from both MB and Billboard. Cole's going to fall hard next week. It's now or never for LMSYG. |
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Post by krud489 on Nov 14, 2015 6:55:33 GMT -5
Chris is ahead of Cole in AI and will probably get the BB #1. But if he comes up short of the MB #1 tomorrow do they go for it next week and make Carrie wait ANOTHER week?
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 14, 2015 14:03:31 GMT -5
There's no way it will survive another week past the upcoming week. I'm hoping over today and tomorrow that it will surge past Cole. Chris is at peak spins and AI, there's no way he can sustain another week and Carrie had a big update today so they are planning smoke breaks push die next week
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 14, 2015 14:08:39 GMT -5
Chris' peak week is this week. Sony will be content with either #1 (MB or Billboard) and I'm expecting them to continue their push through Monday. The MB #1 for "I'm Comin' Over" just got tougher with Warner Music Nashville rallying some overnight spins yesterday and look to have Cole in the driver seat.
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Post by krud489 on Nov 14, 2015 15:10:08 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Don't like getting too confident, but I guess it looks Carrie will finally get her first "official" #1 since 2012.
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Post by ILLUSION on Nov 14, 2015 15:15:45 GMT -5
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Nov 14, 2015 15:18:08 GMT -5
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