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Post by krud489 on Nov 7, 2015 13:39:27 GMT -5
Grammys are the highest acclaim you can get for sure. Just hoping Sony plays their cards right and gets her a #1 on both charts. The way they handle her peak weeks make you shake your head sometimes that's all. BTW I like Chris Young and all his music. Nothing against him at all lol
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 7, 2015 22:07:21 GMT -5
I'll be pissed if the Grammys nominate this over "Little Toy Guns". It's bad enough that her team submitted them both for all of the Country categories and have risked the split-voting factor; it's even worse that this could get nominated over LTG in the likes of the Country Solo Vocal category. Billboard is harder to manipulate, so I hope Sony doesn't screw over Chris just so Carrie can get a #1. It seems like Chris is naturally moving up faster than Carrie, so if his song is more popular than he should be #1. I don't want Carrie to get a manipulated #1 on Billboard. Exit this thread with commentary like this. After her last four singles, I wouldn't care if Sony dropped every cent in their bank account to keep "Smoke Break" at #1 for the next 52 weeks and blocked every hit in between now and then. Stop, sit, and stay. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 8, 2015 8:49:35 GMT -5
I'm surprised her label would do this amidst all of the controversy over the lack of females on country radio. That is improving, but continually having your top female artist sit out for male artists only proves the point further.
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Post by ant on Nov 8, 2015 10:56:41 GMT -5
As a Carrie fan its just a little frustrating that the top female star in the business and one of the most talented artists in the industry is sacrificed and forced to play nice by her label so much....and her hard work and success isn't recognized at awards shows. Only the country ones ;) Grammy Awards do get some things right, you know. Still. It irritates me to no end how the CMAs want her to co-host every year, because they clearly know she will draw in viewers and is entertaining, yet they won't nominate her for Entertainer of the Year. It's really such a slap in the face. Honestly, I wouldn't be upset if Carrie declined to co-host anymore if they keep disrespecting her like this. If I were her, I would straight up say "If you don't nominate me, I'm not hosting". Maybe then they'll get the hint. Okay, maybe I wouldn't go that far, but you get what I'm saying. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 8, 2015 11:01:28 GMT -5
I'll be pissed if the Grammys nominate this over "Little Toy Guns". It's bad enough that her team submitted them both for all of the Country categories and have risked the split-voting factor; it's even worse that this could get nominated over LTG in the likes of the Country Solo Vocal category. I agree it's lame they submitted two songs, but I think "Smoke Break" makes more sense as a submission. Regardless of the [subjective] difference in quality, "Smoke Break" is much more high profile. It's a lead single that got good critical reviews, and she has performed it a lot. Voters are more likely to know it than "LTG," and it will be fresher on their minds during each voting period. Regardless, it makes no sense to submit both to Country Solo. Also, I don't think voters think of this as a vocal award. It's called "Country Solo Performance," for one ("Vocal" is not in the category name), but even so all of these categories (going back to things like "Pop Vocal Performance") seemed more like de facto "Best Female Single" categories. I mean, Sheryl Crow beat Mariah Carey and Celine Dion for Pop Vocal Performance Female in the mid-90s. |
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Post by _adriano. on Nov 8, 2015 22:43:43 GMT -5
At this point, I find it hard to buy into the theory that Sony screws up Carrie deliberately. I mean, once or twice it'd make sense, but, by now, it seems more likely that there are a few stations that seem to refuse to spin Carrie songs into power rotation, which ends up hurting her when it comes to reaching number one on Billboard. Wouldn't that make sense?
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 8, 2015 23:27:22 GMT -5
At this point, I find it hard to buy into the theory that Sony screws up Carrie deliberately. I mean, once or twice it'd make sense, but, by now, it seems more likely that there are a few stations that seem to refuse to spin Carrie songs into power rotation, which ends up hurting her when it comes to reaching number one on Billboard. Wouldn't that make sense? Do a few stations make that big of a difference? I mean, is she always missing out on #1 by like 100 spins (i.e. 20 spins each from 5 stations) or something? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 7:08:28 GMT -5
While Carrie looked likely to be #1 next week, I'm almost wondering if the label decided it better to get Chris there for his album release date. Makes sense. But if they hadn't felt the need to randomly push OD for a second week (which didn't noticably help album sales), I have to imagine they could have gotten Carrie there by today.
Hopefully they can hold off Warner the next couple weeks. A head scratcher for sure.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 9, 2015 8:28:51 GMT -5
Yeah Sony dropped the ball on this. She's hosting CCUSA this weekend and she's way behind Chris at this point and Dan + Shay are right behind her, leaving no room for error. I'm fed up with Carrie having to take a backseat to male artists on the label. Sony screwed up and now it's looking like SB will be a MB #1 only if she's lucky, otherwise another #2 peak.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 8:33:21 GMT -5
Yeah Sony dropped the ball on this. She's hosting CCUSA this weekend and she's way behind Chris at this point and Dan + Shay are right behind her, leaving no room for error. I'm fed up with Carrie having to take a backseat to male artists on the label. Sony screwed up and now it's looking like SB will be a MB #1 only if she's lucky, otherwise another #2 peak. To be fair Chris Young has spent a longer time without a BB #1 than Carrie has so it's not too big of a deal this time. Chris's last #1 on BB was You which was early in 2012. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 9, 2015 8:37:59 GMT -5
They should go ahead and announce a 2nd single anyway because "Smoke Break" is not going to sell the album through the holidays.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Nov 9, 2015 8:39:17 GMT -5
Also take note that both Carrie and Chris are on Sony Nashville, so that could make Chris slow down a bit before a push next week.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 9, 2015 8:40:06 GMT -5
Yeah Sony dropped the ball on this. She's hosting CCUSA this weekend and she's way behind Chris at this point and Dan + Shay are right behind her, leaving no room for error. I'm fed up with Carrie having to take a backseat to male artists on the label. Sony screwed up and now it's looking like SB will be a MB #1 only if she's lucky, otherwise another #2 peak. To be fair Chris Young has spent a longer time without a BB #1 than Carrie has so it's not too big of a deal this time. Chris's last #1 on BB was You which was early in 2012. Yes but there's no reason why they couldn't have let SB go first and then Chris. They both could've easily gone to #1. |
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 9, 2015 12:38:00 GMT -5
They should go ahead and announce a 2nd single anyway because "Smoke Break" is not going to sell the album through the holidays. Of course they're going to announce a second single. Let SB peak first. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 9, 2015 13:07:08 GMT -5
They should go ahead and announce a 2nd single anyway because "Smoke Break" is not going to sell the album through the holidays. Of course they're going to announce a second single. Let SB peak first. I didn't say they weren't at all. I was saying if they aren't going to push "SB" to #1, then why worry about letting it peak out? Move on. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 13:09:08 GMT -5
Of course they're going to announce a second single. Let SB peak first. I didn't say they weren't at all. I was saying if they aren't going to push "SB" to #1, then why worry about letting it peak out? Move on. They probably are going to push it to #1. Just not this week Carrie still has time to hit the top so I wouldn't worry at all. |
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 9, 2015 14:22:24 GMT -5
Of course they're going to announce a second single. Let SB peak first. I didn't say they weren't at all. I was saying if they aren't going to push "SB" to #1, then why worry about letting it peak out? Move on. Because we don't know if they're going to push it, which they likely will. Has there ever been a case where they haven't put out a "power up" ad for any of her singles? They push all of 'em. They just screw up in the process. Patience. Everyone is aware that SB has performed weakly. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 9, 2015 14:39:38 GMT -5
My point is that "SB" isn't going to help the album anymore, regardless if it hits #1 this week, next week, or not at all. So, why not go ahead and start moving on?
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 9, 2015 15:11:05 GMT -5
Jesus.
I'm out.
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Post by _adriano. on Nov 9, 2015 15:14:27 GMT -5
My point is that "SB" isn't going to help the album anymore, regardless if it hits #1 this week, next week, or not at all. So, why not go ahead and start moving on? Because helping album sales isn't the only thing that matters when it comes to a single's performance on country radio. There are plenty of advantages a label can have with a number one hit, such as countdown placement, publicity, songwriting credit and, of course, bragging rights. It'd make no sense to simply jump the gun on the next single considering SB is so close to number one. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 15:55:39 GMT -5
My point is that "SB" isn't going to help the album anymore, regardless if it hits #1 this week, next week, or not at all. So, why not go ahead and start moving on? Why would you move on if this isn't done that makes no sense. That's like running a marathon and in the last mile stopping for a cheeseburger and not finishing, like why would anyone do such a thing? You get the cheeseburger after. A #1 is Carrie and Sony's cheeseburger. |
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 9, 2015 16:37:36 GMT -5
At this point, OD and Cole are tumbling, they both lost audience going into the update this morning and while Carrie gained, it was a horrible update while Chris charged ahead with a monster update. I don't know if they are just gonna let Chris get the number #1 and push Carrie next week or if they are going to simply shoot for the MB #1 for Smoke Break, I don't know. Regardless, the worst that will happen is SB will peak at #2 on billboard and for a song that has performed weakly with downloads and streams, I'll take that. I don't see why they both can't get a #1 but it's out of our hands. All we can do is sit and watch and see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 16:52:48 GMT -5
At this point, OD and Cole are tumbling, they both lost audience going into the update this morning and while Carrie gained, it was a horrible update while Chris charged ahead with a monster update. I don't know if they are just gonna let Chris get the number #1 and push Carrie next week or if they are going to simply shoot for the MB #1 for Smoke Break, I don't know. Regardless, the worst that will happen is SB will peak at #2 on billboard and for a song that has performed weakly with downloads and streams, I'll take that. I don't see why they both can't get a #1 but it's out of our hands. All we can do is sit and watch and see what happens. Cole isn't tumbling he just slowed down last week so this week Old Dominion could get to the top. Regardless I am now when it comes to this chart run I'm just like whatever let's just watch and see what happens. |
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Post by countrygirl918 on Nov 9, 2015 18:31:36 GMT -5
The only problem with letting SB run its course, is that I'm pretty sure Carrie is debuting the second single at the AMA's on November 22nd, so SB needs to peak before then. Is that still possible?
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Post by krud489 on Nov 9, 2015 19:42:12 GMT -5
Do u think Chris would start falling next week if he gets #1 both charts? Plus, is Cole done or is he in the hunt this week too?
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 9, 2015 19:58:55 GMT -5
Cole isn't done. If Warner was done with that song, you would have see it plummet this week. Warner Music Nashville will be pushing for #1 this weekend.
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Post by carriekins on Nov 10, 2015 9:43:39 GMT -5
Today's update makes it look like Sony may be attempting to block Cole with Chris this week...which I am 100% behind.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 10, 2015 10:27:14 GMT -5
I agree with the consensus that Sony is gonna try to block Cole and I think they are going to succeed because Chris is moving up fast. I honestly think this is a smart move and will benefit Carrie for next week because there's no way Cole can go another week if Chris takes #1 this week and SB cannot outpace Cole this week anyway so I think it's smart to let Chris zoom up as SB is still young yet and all Carrie will have to do is continue to outpace Dan + Shay and Blake for the #1 next week.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 10, 2015 11:09:57 GMT -5
I agree with the consensus that Sony is gonna try to block Cole and I think they are going to succeed because Chris is moving up fast. I honestly think this is a smart move and will benefit Carrie for next week because there's no way Cole can go another week if Chris takes #1 this week and SB cannot outpace Cole this week anyway so I think it's smart to let Chris zoom up as SB is still young yet and all Carrie will have to do is continue to outpace Dan + Shay and Blake for the #1 next week. Except Chris has a lot of room to makeup on MB. If anything I think we will see a split if the charts this week with Chris getting a week at #1 on Billboard. Nobody settles for Billboard #1's anymore, so Chris will inevitably get 2 weeks. Carrie will have to wait another week in the scenario you outlined IMO. |
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 11, 2015 2:57:49 GMT -5
I know I may or may not be in the minority on this one, but I cannot get "Heartbeat" out of my head. I really hope that it is the next single! I think chances are pretty good, since lately the pre-release songs have become singles more often than not.
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