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Post by dm2081 on May 21, 2016 14:19:21 GMT -5
So he won't record any traditional sounding country songs (because modern radio deems them to sound "dated"), but he can make songs influenced by artists popular 15-20 years ago like blink-182 and Sublime? How does that make any sense? Look, I've liked all 3 singles this era, but I agree, he does seem to be more focused on being a big name then being himself.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 21, 2016 14:26:48 GMT -5
What a joke. One more "artist" who's more fittingly called a "businessman". And to think I had hope for his upcoming songs. I should have known by how awful his live show has gotten. He went from being one of the best live performances I had seen to one of the worst in just a year. I almost feel embarassed for him when he wears his cowboy hat. I get this response and understand where it comes from, but this man would not be able to pay his bills and probably have a record label, the ability to be played on the radio, or even the means to record and release the music you want him to put out anyway if he didn't adhere to radio trends at least somewhat. I'm just as frustrated by the inundation of bro-country and artists relying on sounds that are less and less "country," but at least he puts it into perspective and talks about it from a place of "I'm disappointed too bro, but if I have to mix it up a bit so that I can keep making the kind of songs I do really want to make (i.e. "Your Daddy's Boots"), then that's how it has to be." At least for me he sounds genuine like he realizes that the situation isn't ideal and has made necessary adjustments that, imo, haven't been totally disingenuous ("Mind Reader" sounds every bit like him being true to himself to me). I hate when we get artists who are big names who can get away with releasing more traditional stuff continuing to churn out crap like "Lights Come On" or "Home Alone Tonight," but this guy doesn't have that luxury or leisure (not that I think anything he's recorded is that bad either fwiw). If his music on album #3 falls to outside the limits of country music for me and starts to sound like some of Jake Owen's recent stuff (some of the influences he listed remind me of what he's done lately), I'll be turned off too, but right now I can't find fault with what he's done. Anyway, that's just my perspective. Now, I can't comment on his live show though as that's not something I know anything about having never seen him. That's a different story.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 14:45:22 GMT -5
What a joke. One more "artist" who's more fittingly called a "businessman". And to think I had hope for his upcoming songs. I should have known by how awful his live show has gotten. He went from being one of the best live performances I had seen to one of the worst in just a year. I almost feel embarassed for him when he wears his cowboy hat. I get this response and understand where it comes from, but this man would not be able to pay his bills and probably have a record label, the ability to be played on the radio, or even the means to record and release the music you want him to put out anyway if he didn't adhere to radio trends at least somewhat. I'm just as frustrated by the inundation of bro-country and artists relying on sounds that are less and less "country," but at least he puts it into perspective and talks about it from a place of "I'm disappointed too bro, but if I have to mix it up a bit so that I can keep making the kind of songs I do really want to make (i.e. "Your Daddy's Boots"), then that's how it has to be." At least for me he sounds genuine like he realizes that the situation isn't ideal and has made necessary adjustments that, imo, haven't been totally disingenuous ("Mind Reader" sounds every bit like him being true to himself to me). Oh I totally get that. These folks are blessed to have the talent and opportunity to call this their job. They know that and we all know that. At the end of the day, it pays the bills. But I have a hard time believing someone like Dustin Lynch is struggling for money, or would be if he released some songs that he wanted vs. songs that he thinks everyone else wanted. It's just a shame that this environment has been created where artists need to release what they think radio will play. I think all artists who are looking for continued success need to be aware of what the current trends are, but this isn't the first time I've gotten the impression Dustin just wants to follow the trends completely. But you know what they say: the definition of success is always doing the same exact thing everyone else is doing. /sarcasm
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Post by dm2081 on May 21, 2016 15:22:57 GMT -5
I get the whole "paying the bills" argument, but some of the greatest artists of all time were dead broke and struggling before they hit it big, and they didn't have to conform to radio trends in order to make it. Kurt Cobain wasn't a millionaire who had the luxury to record whatever the heck he wanted to. Eminem was struggling with a wife and kid, barely getting by, but stayed true to himself and thus made it big because he stuck with his true sound. Like @nickv1025 said, I highly doubt Dustin has to worry about his electricity going out, he does have a record deal and all. I understand there will always have to be some obliging to appease the bosses at the label (until you branch off and start your own label), but you should also try to bare some resemblance to yourself, especially if you even admit to it in an interview.
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Post by sabre14 on May 21, 2016 15:27:21 GMT -5
I think if you're not making the music you truly love and have a passion for, then you're not in it for the right reasons. We still don't know "exactly" what is going through Dustin's mind (what he doesn't say out loud) but his quotes make me think he's lost with what he would like to do as an artist and the further he goes down the line, switching up sounds (drastically) with each passing album, I think it becomes harder to find that true calling.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 21, 2016 16:30:10 GMT -5
I get the whole "paying the bills" argument, but some of the greatest artists of all time were dead broke and struggling before they hit it big, and they didn't have to conform to radio trends in order to make it. Kurt Cobain wasn't a millionaire who had the luxury to record whatever the heck he wanted to. Eminem was struggling with a wife and kid, barely getting by, but stayed true to himself and thus made it big because he stuck with his true sound. Like @nickv1025 said, I highly doubt Dustin has to worry about his electricity going out, he does have a record deal and all. I understand there will always have to be some obliging to appease the bosses at the label (until you branch off and start your own label), but you should also try to bare some resemblance to yourself, especially if you even admit to it in an interview. He has a record deal right now but if he kept releasing singles radio didn't play, then he can't count on keeping it. Even though his debut single was a big hit, it didn't carry through the rest of the era, and "She Cranks My Tractor" and "Wild in Your Smile"-sized hits aren't going to be enough to keep him at Broken Bow. And just because some people have success stories after struggling in poverty or something like that -- Dolly Parton is a good example to keep it in the genre -- doesn't mean that applies in any way to Dustin here. Also, it's subjective of course, but I don't see "Where It's At" or "Mind Reader" as being that untrue to who Dustin is as an artist. Maybe they aren't very neo-traditional like his debut single, but they aren't drastically different from "Tractor" or "Wild" from his debut, aside from taking a step further in the radio-friendly department. They still sound like country music and like natural compromises for a guy who wants to be country but not so country that he becomes 'that guy who did "Cowboys & Angels" and then fell off the map.' From the way some of you talk about his music now, y'all make it sound like "Burnin' It Down," "Break Up in a Small Town," and "Strip It Down" were his latest singles. If he takes a big left turn again for the third album and it sounds totally unlike any of his previous music and doesn't sound genuine to him at all, then I'll be just as disappointed, but from looking at his first two records, I don't see a drastic, disingenuous progression in his music just yet. I don't like the sound of the influences he rattled off for his third album, but I don't have any qualms about what he's been doing up to this point so far and I think it was most likely necessary for him to stick around.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 16:51:58 GMT -5
While I can respect that he is open on how his music hasn't had a clear direction basically. I nonetheless find it pathetic that he basically admits he's not going to even sound country by siting those influences. Also .indulgecountry I mean we are talking about Broken Bow the label that has kept Kristy Lee Cook, James Wesley, and Lindsay Ell and I don't imagine any of them are financially struggling so I sure as hell can't imagine Dustin is struggling. While I won't say his sophomore album has sounded drastically different from his previous one, right now Dustin is 1 and 5 for me so far in his single choices. His debut song was great and ever since then he's basically churned out worthless bro country (imo). A musician not having a clear musical direction isn't a genuine artist. It's a singer who is willing to sound like the latest trend just to make a quick buck.
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Post by myeverything on May 21, 2016 18:11:59 GMT -5
Why don't y'all wait until the album comes out and actually listen to it? Good grief. I mean, you're already criticizing something that is still totally in the works. To me, it seems like you're saying you don't like the album and you've never even heard it yet. Artists are allowed to have different tastes in music and I'm sure it makes them more versatile, creative and eclectic.
And the comment about his live shows... I've been seeing him live for about 5 years now and I see NOTHING different about how they are. He's been opening up for Luke the past two tours, so if you feel something has changed then, I'll just leave it at that...
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Post by sabre14 on May 21, 2016 19:02:33 GMT -5
Why don't y'all wait until the album comes out and actually listen to it? Good grief. I mean, you're already criticizing something that is still totally in the works. To me, it seems like you're saying you don't like the album and you've never even heard it yet. Artists are allowed to have different tastes in music and I'm sure it makes them more versatile, creative and eclectic. And the comment about his live shows... I've been seeing him live for about 5 years now and I see NOTHING different about how they are. He's been opening up for Luke the past two tours, so if you feel something has changed then, I'll just leave it at that... This is a discussion board. Therefore, folks are allowed to discuss things like artists musical direction and it's perfectly okay to voice frustration with an artists music, albums and songs. I see no problem with what's been said by anyone here. Do I agree with "all of it" -- no -- I too see the point of waiting until an album comes out to criticize it but the only thing I've seen thus far are posters feeling uneasy with what Dustin's said -- they're not saying they hate the album for God's sake. Opinions breed the existence for this forum and this board. Why don't y'all wait until the album comes out and actually listen to it? Good grief. I mean, you're already criticizing something that is still totally in the works. To me, it seems like you're saying you don't like the album and you've never even heard it yet. Artists are allowed to have different tastes in music and I'm sure it makes them more versatile, creative and eclectic. And the comment about his live shows... I've been seeing him live for about 5 years now and I see NOTHING different about how they are. He's been opening up for Luke the past two tours, so if you feel something has changed then, I'll just leave it at that... Ok, I veto. I'm willing to say your only saying that because it's one of your favorite artists in Dustin Lynch. And this comment doesn't help. Assuming why posters are voicing the opinions they feel are not necessary.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 19:55:10 GMT -5
Why don't y'all wait until the album comes out and actually listen to it? Good grief. I mean, you're already criticizing something that is still totally in the works. To me, it seems like you're saying you don't like the album and you've never even heard it yet. Artists are allowed to have different tastes in music and I'm sure it makes them more versatile, creative and eclectic. And the comment about his live shows... I've been seeing him live for about 5 years now and I see NOTHING different about how they are. He's been opening up for Luke the past two tours, so if you feel something has changed then, I'll just leave it at that... Actually we are criticizing his quotations of how he is going to follow the trends. You're obviously a big D Lynch fan so I'm sure you've seen him live more than me. I saw him 2 years ago and he played some old country covers and he sounded really stripped down. When he played "Where it's At" it sounded so out of place because of the drum loops. Saw him this year and he didn't play any throwbacks. Every song was loud and ALL bass, ALL drums. You could barely hear his voice. Played a track for all the fiddle parts for his first album. That was insulting lol.
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Post by keelhauled on May 21, 2016 20:26:17 GMT -5
Didn't Jake Owen specifically name drop Sublime as an influence on the mess that was "Real Life?" And Blink-182...I like them, but I sure don't have any of their songs in my country playlists. Frankly I'm surprised that this is the trend he wants to chase, seeing how Jake literally just went through what it sounds like Dustin is planning on.
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Post by sabre14 on May 22, 2016 10:58:00 GMT -5
Broken Bow got the Mediabase #1 this week and Old Dominion needs something close to a miracle to take Billboard.
The update today played out exactly the way I thought it would -- Dustin out gains Old Dominion in spins simply because "Snapback" could not grow much more than they already had. Sony went with a ton of overnight spins to sneak away Mediabase but the lead BBR got earlier in the week proved too strong to overcome. I still believe the total points were pretty close though.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 14:20:12 GMT -5
I hear this song every single time im in the car, and I never get tired of it haha. Firs time i heard it I was meh, now every time i hear it my love for it grows. Very infectious song and Im glad it's getting so many spins.
Looking forward to his new material.
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Post by sabre14 on May 23, 2016 21:05:55 GMT -5
Ad in Aircheck confirms "Mind Reader" as final single from Where It's At.
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Post by straitouttanashville on May 23, 2016 22:34:45 GMT -5
I agree with everyone that Dustin Lynch seems like he should be cutting more traditional country songs. I would think you would have to try and put yourself in his shoes though. Lynch just earned his 3rd #1 in a row. It would be hard as an artist to start cutting risky radio songs that are more traditional when Lynch has positive momentum right now. He also probably doesn't have 100% control on what is sent to radio. I would think the best bet to hear some real traditional songs or something closer would be a huge radio hit as his next lead single this summer. After maybe a couple more #1s then Lynch might have an outside shot at a more traditional sounding single having success at radio. I do agree with the people that think Lynch feels like more of a traditional artist.
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Post by :) KUFan on May 23, 2016 23:56:07 GMT -5
Sad that this album era is over because in my personal playlist, I find myself listening to "American Prayer" daily and "World to Me" a lot. Both are great songs and I wish he'd release more significant material such as those songs listed above.
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Post by countryboy79 on May 24, 2016 2:25:49 GMT -5
#1 on Mediabase and Billboard, as expected.
The sad thing (not only in this case, obviously) is that now almost all the radio # 1 are programmed (the Dustin label posted the ad "max spins week 5/15 - 5/23" a month ago).
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Post by robenglund on May 24, 2016 3:42:22 GMT -5
Congrats to Dustin on three #1s this album era! What a huge accomplishment. Where It's At came out nearly two years ago so no surprise "Mind Reader" is the last single. I think "Middle of Nowhere" would have been a great 4th single though. Anyways this next era will be huge for him coming off of 3 #1s. He could be in contention for A-lister status if the next album era is very successful. Hopefully his songs will climb faster next era too and we can get 4 singles.
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Post by trebor on May 24, 2016 7:17:34 GMT -5
(Obviously) Glad this made it to #1 on both charts! ;) Congrats! :)
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Post by mdouty on May 24, 2016 9:31:10 GMT -5
Sort of surprised "Halo" never got sent to radio. Seems like the perfect song that radio would love. Anyway, really excited to hear this new song soon.
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Post by sabre14 on May 24, 2016 10:20:43 GMT -5
Sort of surprised "Halo" never got sent to radio. Seems like the perfect song that radio would love. Anyway, really excited to hear this new song soon. Next single will be out sometime this summer according to the article on Dustin in Billboard last night.
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Post by myeverything on May 24, 2016 15:10:15 GMT -5
So happy for him and his team!!! He's had a great run with this era and I'm sad to see it go. I really loved this album and definitely agree with the fact that he could have had a good couple more hits from this one. But of course, I'm also excited to see what else in the works!!
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Post by countryboy79 on May 26, 2016 8:42:47 GMT -5
buffalocountry n.1 in Canada is Thomas Rhett this week...
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Post by onebuffalo on May 26, 2016 8:45:11 GMT -5
buffalocountry n.1 in Canada is Thomas Rhett this week... Post deleted. I went back to bdsradio.com and they are now showing Thomas Rhett at #1. Thanks!
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Post by trebor on May 26, 2016 9:51:56 GMT -5
buffalocountry n.1 in Canada is Thomas Rhett this week... Post deleted. I went back to bdsradio.com and they are now showing Thomas Rhett at #1. Thanks! Buffalo*: But you do know that I post the Canadian chart one day ahead of publication to the general public?
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Post by onebuffalo on May 26, 2016 10:12:42 GMT -5
Post deleted. I went back to bdsradio.com and they are now showing Thomas Rhett at #1. Thanks! Buffalo*: But you do know that I post the Canadian chart one day ahead of publication to the general public? Yes I do. However, the first time I looked at bdsradio.com, they were showing Dustin Lynch at #1 with about 8500 spins. Several minutes later, I went back because I was told Thomas Rhett was #1. I even tagged you to confirm what I had originally saw. Deleted both posts.
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Post by trebor on May 26, 2016 11:48:32 GMT -5
^^ OK. I see. Probably a mix-up. Never mind! :)
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