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Post by badrobot on Sept 17, 2015 1:36:08 GMT -5
I realized while driving the other day that I never listen to the radio anymore. I either hook Spotify in my car or listen to sports talk. Anyone one else no longer listen to radio? I'm genuinely shocked that anyone listens to the radio anymore. definitely been 10+ years for me. I'm more curious if someone can explain why they would ever listen to radio? Between the barrage of ads, repetitive/narrow playlists, and how easy it is to listen to your own music via Bluetooth or an aux jack, why would you ever want the radio? |
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Post by leoapp on Sept 17, 2015 3:28:39 GMT -5
The Weeknd will be the 2nd artist to have a lead single hit #1 Hot 100 after the 2nd single. The first one was Rihanna. Also, when was the last time a 2nd single peaked first (on radio or Hot 100) before the lead single? Not sure if Rihanna's What's My Name peaked first before Only Girl. Mariah did replaced herself on #1 Hot 100 Airplay after occupying the top 2 (SIO & WBT). WMN peaked after OG in airplay. And actually, Can't Hold Us was technically released in 2011, long before its preceding #1, Thrift Shop. Well, interesting CHU was released first, but Thrift Shop was their real promoted lead single. So, The Weeknd is the first to achieve this feat (2nd single peaking after the lead single) within 1 era? |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Sept 17, 2015 7:08:57 GMT -5
Mediabase 09/17/15
1. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 176.524 (- 1.011)
2. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 144.843 (+ 0.535)
3. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 134.898 (- 1.786)
4. SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 131.585 (+ 0.647)
5. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 128.187 (+ 3.325)
6. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 127.003 (+ 2.568)
7. OMI - Cheerleader: 114.579 (- 2.885)
8. DEMI LOVATO - Cool For The Summer: 109.007 (- 0.424)
9. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 98.481 (- 0.452)
10. FALL OUT BOY - Uma Thurman: 96.321 (+ 0.176)
11. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 89.585 (- 1.609)
12. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 75.194 (+ 2.814) ▲
13. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 73.225 (+ 0.203)
14. TAYLOR SWIFT - Bad Blood f/Kendrick Lamar: 73.116 (- 1.570) ▼
15. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 71.568 (+ 2.675)
16. X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 65.348 (+ 1.665) ▲
17. CHRIS JANSON - Buy Me A Boat: 64.579 (+ 0.525)
18. KENNY CHESNEY - Save It For A Rainy Day: 63.821 (+ 0.070) ▲
19. WIZ KHALIFA - See You Again f/Charlie Puth: 63.558 (- 0.712) ▼
20. KEITH URBAN - John Cougar, John Deere...: 63.398 (+ 0.204) ▲
FETTY WAP - My Way f/Monty: 60.347 (- 0.293)
BRETT ELDREDGE - Lose My Mind: 59.482 (+ 0.377)
SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 55.424 (+ 2.135)
CHARLIE PUTH - Marvin Gaye f/Meghan Trainor: 54.075 (+ 0.233)
FETTY WAP-679 f/Remy Boyz...: 53.610 (+ 1.343)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - Downtown: 51.818 (+ 0.910)
ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 51.337 (+ 1.239)
ONE DIRECTION - Drag Me Down: 44.965 (+ 0.645)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 42.883 (+ 0.593)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Smoke Break: 40.743 (+ 1.864)
DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 35.947 (+ 2.101)
HAILEE STEINFELD - Love Myself: 34.878 (+ 0.019)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 29.017 (+ 0.454)
NICK JONAS - Levels: 26.909 (+ 0.836)
CHRIS BROWN - Liquor: 22.488 (+ 0.434)
RITA ORA - Body On Me f/Chris Brown: 16.358 (+ 0.078)
MAJOR LAZER - Powerful f/Ellie Goulding: 15.062 (+ 0.796)
NELLY - The Fix f/Jeremih: 12.584 (+ 0.379)
SELENA GOMEZ - Same Old Love: 7.338 (+ 1.265)
RACHEL PLATTEN - Stand By You: 3.944 (+ 0.656)
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 17, 2015 7:12:31 GMT -5
I realized while driving the other day that I never listen to the radio anymore. I either hook Spotify in my car or listen to sports talk. Anyone one else no longer listen to radio? I'm genuinely shocked that anyone listens to the radio anymore. definitely been 10+ years for me. I'm more curious if someone can explain why they would ever listen to radio? Between the barrage of ads, repetitive/narrow playlists, and how easy it is to listen to your own music via Bluetooth or an aux jack, why would you ever want the radio? Last time I listened to the radio was during a long road trip using Sirius XM's stations with my boyfriend last July. Other than that, I agree. |
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Post by jebsib on Sept 17, 2015 9:11:46 GMT -5
If radio was like it was in the 80s: 15 new songs a week, not playing heavy recurrents for 9 months, and focus on actually fun promotions and personalities throughout the day, it would be more entertaining, less boring.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Sept 17, 2015 10:01:49 GMT -5
I realized while driving the other day that I never listen to the radio anymore. I either hook Spotify in my car or listen to sports talk. Anyone one else no longer listen to radio? I'm genuinely shocked that anyone listens to the radio anymore. definitely been 10+ years for me. I'm more curious if someone can explain why they would ever listen to radio? Between the barrage of ads, repetitive/narrow playlists, and how easy it is to listen to your own music via Bluetooth or an aux jack, why would you ever want the radio? Since I rent car a lot and if it doesn't have free Sirius, I'll listen to local radio for a few segments to get a sense of market, but then I'll hook up my phone if the commercials get annoying. Along those lines, I do wonder what the actual demographics are for terrestrial radio - I would guess it's moved more to older and less affluent. That being said, for some people listening at work, they aren't able to stream through computers, but still. |
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Post by yuh yuh on Sept 17, 2015 10:26:26 GMT -5
I know it could be wrong thread to ask it, but why many song's (for example: Wildest Dreams, What Do You Mean, Bad Blood, Cool For The Summer, Can't Feel My Face etc) daily views in Youtube went down that much?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 10:32:18 GMT -5
I know it could be wrong thread to ask it, but why many song's (for example: Wildest Dreams, What Do You Mean, Bad Blood, Cool For The Summer, Can't Feel My Face etc) daily views in Youtube went down that much? Uninterested viewers, an error in the data reports, YouTube crashed at one point? Those are my best guesses, I don't know man. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 17, 2015 12:55:37 GMT -5
Big jump for Renegades!
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Post by imbondz on Sept 17, 2015 15:25:44 GMT -5
What's the highest a song has gone on the charts, where you still hadn't heard it for some reason?
When I first followed the charts back in the day I would always know the top 40 without question. Now every now and then a song can sneak into the top 10 before I hear it. It's rare but happens.
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Post by kanimal on Sept 17, 2015 15:33:11 GMT -5
WMN peaked after OG in airplay. And actually, Can't Hold Us was technically released in 2011, long before its preceding #1, Thrift Shop. Well, interesting CHU was released first, but Thrift Shop was their real promoted lead single. So, The Weeknd is the first to achieve this feat (2nd single peaking after the lead single) within 1 era? But if that's the standard, then I don't see how Can't Feel My Face isn't considered the predecessor to The Hills. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 16:45:35 GMT -5
What's the highest a song has gone on the charts, where you still hadn't heard it for some reason? When I first followed the charts back in the day I would always know the top 40 without question. Now every now and then a song can sneak into the top 10 before I hear it. It's rare but happens. I hadn't heard Harlem Shake until after I found out it debuted at #1. |
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Post by Gary on Sept 17, 2015 17:16:02 GMT -5
What's the highest a song has gone on the charts, where you still hadn't heard it for some reason? When I first followed the charts back in the day I would always know the top 40 without question. Now every now and then a song can sneak into the top 10 before I hear it. It's rare but happens. I hadn't heard Harlem Shake until after I found out it debuted at #1. And I'm pretty sure it was the same for a lot of other people. That really says a lot about the accuracy of it being #1. LOL. Really? If you have not heard it, it is not an accurate #1? |
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Post by Gary on Sept 17, 2015 17:21:47 GMT -5
Read what you said again. You had not heard it and assumed a lot of others had not heard it therefore it's accuracy as a number one is in question
A song can be an accurate number one even if you had not bothered to listen to it yet.
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Post by brady47 on Sept 17, 2015 17:37:36 GMT -5
I realized while driving the other day that I never listen to the radio anymore. I either hook Spotify in my car or listen to sports talk. Anyone one else no longer listen to radio? I'm genuinely shocked that anyone listens to the radio anymore. definitely been 10+ years for me. I'm more curious if someone can explain why they would ever listen to radio? Between the barrage of ads, repetitive/narrow playlists, and how easy it is to listen to your own music via Bluetooth or an aux jack, why would you ever want the radio? For me, I like the unpredictability of what you'll hear on the radio. I've listened to my playlist so much, and I'm constantly skipping songs to listen to the same 10-50 songs, but radio kind of forces me to listen to something that I might not bother listening to by choice. There's so many songs that I enjoy listening to, but I probably would hit skip on my phone, and sometimes, I gain a new appreciation for songs by hearing them on the radio. For example, I'll usually hit skip on Avril Lavigne's "Complicated", but I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, and it just sounded so good in my car. |
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 17, 2015 17:58:35 GMT -5
What's the highest a song has gone on the charts, where you still hadn't heard it for some reason? When I first followed the charts back in the day I would always know the top 40 without question. Now every now and then a song can sneak into the top 10 before I hear it. It's rare but happens. Harlem Shake - didn't even know it existed until it hit #1. I don't go on youtube often and i normally ignore stupid viral videos Trap Queen - Not a big urban fan so I never really listened to it, but now I love it and listen to it often Problem - I didn't really take any time to listen to it until it debuted high on the charts and realized everyone was talking about it |
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Post by imbondz on Sept 17, 2015 19:08:47 GMT -5
I'm genuinely shocked that anyone listens to the radio anymore. definitely been 10+ years for me. I'm more curious if someone can explain why they would ever listen to radio? Between the barrage of ads, repetitive/narrow playlists, and how easy it is to listen to your own music via Bluetooth or an aux jack, why would you ever want the radio? For me, I like the unpredictability of what you'll hear on the radio. I've listened to my playlist so much, and I'm constantly skipping songs to listen to the same 10-50 songs, but radio kind of forces me to listen to something that I might not bother listening to by choice. There's so many songs that I enjoy listening to, but I probably would hit skip on my phone, and sometimes, I gain a new appreciation for songs by hearing them on the radio. For example, I'll usually hit skip on Avril Lavigne's "Complicated", but I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, and it just sounded so good in my car. I've always said something happens to a song when it gets played on radio. It's a strange phenomenon. |
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Post by TylerG11 on Sept 17, 2015 22:36:22 GMT -5
I'm genuinely shocked that anyone listens to the radio anymore. definitely been 10+ years for me. I'm more curious if someone can explain why they would ever listen to radio? Between the barrage of ads, repetitive/narrow playlists, and how easy it is to listen to your own music via Bluetooth or an aux jack, why would you ever want the radio? For me, I like the unpredictability of what you'll hear on the radio. I've listened to my playlist so much, and I'm constantly skipping songs to listen to the same 10-50 songs, but radio kind of forces me to listen to something that I might not bother listening to by choice. There's so many songs that I enjoy listening to, but I probably would hit skip on my phone, and sometimes, I gain a new appreciation for songs by hearing them on the radio. For example, I'll usually hit skip on Avril Lavigne's "Complicated", but I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, and it just sounded so good in my car. I'm glad someone else feels this way. This is definitely why I still listen to and love radio. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 23:38:33 GMT -5
For me, I like the unpredictability of what you'll hear on the radio. I've listened to my playlist so much, and I'm constantly skipping songs to listen to the same 10-50 songs, but radio kind of forces me to listen to something that I might not bother listening to by choice. There's so many songs that I enjoy listening to, but I probably would hit skip on my phone, and sometimes, I gain a new appreciation for songs by hearing them on the radio. For example, I'll usually hit skip on Avril Lavigne's "Complicated", but I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, and it just sounded so good in my car. I'm glad someone else feels this way. This is definitely why I still listen to and love radio. I enjoy listening to the radio for that same reason too but I just never knew how to put it in words so thank you brady47 for helping me out with that  |
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Post by bccole on Sept 17, 2015 23:53:32 GMT -5
See You Again will have one more small drop this week, as Wiz has had a good week on Pop Bars on I Tunes and Spotify. SYA has dropped a bit on air[;ay, which is why I expect the song to drop to #22 or #23. However the following week I think SYA will fall to #28 or so. This slight momentum boost won't, and it can't, last much longer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 23:59:30 GMT -5
I wonder if SYA will have a very short chart life relative to its time at #1 similar to Boom Boom Pow in 2009 which spent 12 weeks at #1 but just 33 weeks on the chart (and it peaked at precisely the same time of the year too! SYA and BBP have such similar runs so far...)
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Post by forg on Sept 18, 2015 0:16:07 GMT -5
I'm genuinely shocked that anyone listens to the radio anymore. definitely been 10+ years for me. I'm more curious if someone can explain why they would ever listen to radio? Between the barrage of ads, repetitive/narrow playlists, and how easy it is to listen to your own music via Bluetooth or an aux jack, why would you ever want the radio? For me, I like the unpredictability of what you'll hear on the radio. I've listened to my playlist so much, and I'm constantly skipping songs to listen to the same 10-50 songs, but radio kind of forces me to listen to something that I might not bother listening to by choice. There's so many songs that I enjoy listening to, but I probably would hit skip on my phone, and sometimes, I gain a new appreciation for songs by hearing them on the radio. For example, I'll usually hit skip on Avril Lavigne's "Complicated", but I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, and it just sounded so good in my car. This. I like the unpredictability of the order of songs to be played and yes there are just certain songs that sounds better hearing on the radio. I can't explain why. There are also songs that tend to grow on me over time after listening a lot of times on the radio. As for recurrents, when I hear a song again after such a long time, it gives a different feeling, maybe of nostalgia. |
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Post by 85la on Sept 18, 2015 0:26:40 GMT -5
For me, I like the unpredictability of what you'll hear on the radio. I've listened to my playlist so much, and I'm constantly skipping songs to listen to the same 10-50 songs, but radio kind of forces me to listen to something that I might not bother listening to by choice. There's so many songs that I enjoy listening to, but I probably would hit skip on my phone, and sometimes, I gain a new appreciation for songs by hearing them on the radio. For example, I'll usually hit skip on Avril Lavigne's "Complicated", but I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, and it just sounded so good in my car. I'm glad someone else feels this way. This is definitely why I still listen to and love radio. I listen to radio a lot as well for the nostalgia/old school vibe. Plus, it does seem to play very new songs more often than Internet based-radio services, which I know only happens like 2% of the time, but it's something. And according to the numbers, quite a few people still are listening to terrestrial radio; I've heard overall listenership has actually gone up in recent years. It definitely seems like it, with #1 songs routinely breaking 150-175 mil (per Nielsen), whereas in the late 2000's that would only happen once in a blue moon. I know this might be explained by Billboard and maybe Nielsen itself adding more stations to their panels, but it still seems like terrestrial radio is very popular. |
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 18, 2015 0:39:41 GMT -5
I'm glad someone else feels this way. This is definitely why I still listen to and love radio. I listen to radio a lot as well for the nostalgia/old school vibe. Plus, it does seem to play very new songs more often than Internet based-radio services, which I know only happens like 2% of the time, but it's something. And according to the numbers, quite a few people still are listening to terrestrial radio; I've heard overall listenership has actually gone up in recent years. It definitely seems like it, with #1 songs routinely breaking 150-175 mil (per Nielsen), whereas in the late 2000's that would only happen once in a blue moon. I know this might be explained by Billboard and maybe Nielsen itself adding more stations to their panels, but it still seems like terrestrial radio is very popular. It also has to deal with inflated play counts. What it took to get you to number one even five/six years ago on the pop chart, for example, only gets you to just cracking the top ten now. (Even accounting for spins per station average, the same #1 SPS from five/six years ago would still not even get you into the top five today.) |
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Post by 85la on Sept 18, 2015 0:43:35 GMT -5
Wasn't Earned It technically the first single from BBTM, as it is on the album and it was the first song to be released as a single? I know it came out a long time ago and it was originally on the 50 Shades ST and it might not have originally been planned to be on The Weeknd's album, but how do we know it wasn't for sure? This brings up kind of a philosophical question of how do you define a first single, and all "official" singles and the order in which they are released from an album, in general. Do they have to be officially promoted as being the "first single" and released within a specific time frame, such as 3-4 months of the album's release? Does there have to be official radio promotion, and if so, which formats? Not always a cut and dried answer....
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Post by 85la on Sept 18, 2015 1:05:01 GMT -5
I listen to radio a lot as well for the nostalgia/old school vibe. Plus, it does seem to play very new songs more often than Internet based-radio services, which I know only happens like 2% of the time, but it's something. And according to the numbers, quite a few people still are listening to terrestrial radio; I've heard overall listenership has actually gone up in recent years. It definitely seems like it, with #1 songs routinely breaking 150-175 mil (per Nielsen), whereas in the late 2000's that would only happen once in a blue moon. I know this might be explained by Billboard and maybe Nielsen itself adding more stations to their panels, but it still seems like terrestrial radio is very popular. It also has to deal with inflated play counts. What it took to get you to number one even five/six years ago on the pop chart, for example, only gets you to just cracking the top ten now. (Even accounting for spins per station average, the same #1 SPS from five/six years ago would still not even get you into the top five today.) Are you saying that the charts are more top-heavy and that that would explain why number ones have higher AI's? That's probably somewhat true, but I don't know if that explains everything, because all positions, at least down to #50 on Hot 100 Airplay, have shown AI increases. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 6:37:55 GMT -5
Wasn't Earned It technically the first single from BBTM, as it is on the album and it was the first song to be released as a single? I know it came out a long time ago and it was originally on the 50 Shades ST and it might not have originally been planned to be on The Weeknd's album, but how do we know it wasn't for sure? This brings up kind of a philosophical question of how do you define a first single, and all "official" singles and the order in which they are released from an album, in general. Do they have to be officially promoted as being the "first single" and released within a specific time frame, such as 3-4 months of the album's release? Does there have to be official radio promotion, and if so, which formats? Not always a cut and dried answer.... Technically "Often" was the first single |
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Post by badrobot on Sept 18, 2015 7:47:18 GMT -5
The standard seems to be "radio-promoted" when deciding whether a song is first/second/third single.
And interesting responses about radio. I remember it feeling cool when a song I liked was on the radio. But for me the total deal breaker is advertising. I can't stand it. Same reason I haven't had regular TV/cable in 5+ years (just an Apple TV).
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Post by Kworb on Sept 18, 2015 8:31:41 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. What Do You Mean? 136,000 2. The Hills 108,000 3. Wildest Dreams 86,000 4. Hotline Bling 86,000 5. Locked Away 85,000 6. Can't Feel My Face 83,000 7. Downtown 81,000 8. Watch Me 77,000 9. Stitches 76,000 10. Same Old Love 64,000 11. 679 61,000 12. Good For You 57,000 13. Marvin Gaye 56,000 14. Cheerleader 55,000 15. Ex's & Oh's 48,000 16. Fight Song 47,000 17. Love Myself 46,000 18. Strip It Down 42,000 19. Drag Me Down 41,000 20. Like I'm Gonna Lose You 39,000 kworb.net/cc |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 8:43:32 GMT -5
Radio updates:
The Hills made top 5 with a +2.894 gain to 130.902.
WDYM? goes up a spot to #13 with a +2.417 gain to 75.389.
Stitches made top 25 with a +1.698 gain to 56.506.
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