Billboard Hot 100: 11/14/15 (Hello Adele!)

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Gonna predict Lean On dropped 11-20

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Nov 2, 2015 14:04:40 GMT -5 Caviar said:

So many stats to digest!

What's the difference between all those Adult Contemporary charts?
On Demand..is that Pandora and Spotify? Is that inclusive to the 61.6 million streams?

On Demand is the subscription services. Spotify, Rdio, Apple Music etc

Streaming is On Demand plus passive internet radio and Youtube.

[musicrocks]

Congrats Adele! I don't think many of us ever thought we'd see a single selling 1.1 million copies in a week but she did it.

If her first week sales drop by 60%, her sales will be around 445,000 but looking at Kworb, Hello might not even drop that far. Thoughts?

[irice22]

Nov 2, 2015 13:22:06 GMT -5 @jakelmmrs44 said:

Wow, incredible. Congrats to Adele for her 4th #1 and to JB for his 3rd top 3 hit.

Question: Does anybody know the last time a song debuted at #1 AND #2 in the same week?

"Anaconda" and "Shake It Off"?

[Queen of Insomnia.]

Because of kworb predictions I was low-key anticipating her to double Florida #'s that would've been beyond epic... Oh well, huge sales nonetheless. Phuck it @ Harlem Shake still winning.

[Linnethia Monique]

Nov 2, 2015 14:28:59 GMT -5 irice22 said:

Nov 2, 2015 13:22:06 GMT -5 @jakelmmrs44 said:

Wow, incredible. Congrats to Adele for her 4th #1 and to JB for his 3rd top 3 hit.

Question: Does anybody know the last time a song debuted at #1 AND #2 in the same week?

"Anaconda" and "Shake It Off"?

It was Clay Aiken and Ruben Studdard back in 2003. This marks only the 2nd time 2 songs have debuted in the top slots.

[Mikel Echarri]

Nov 2, 2015 14:28:59 GMT -5 irice22 said:

Nov 2, 2015 13:22:06 GMT -5 @jakelmmrs44 said:

Wow, incredible. Congrats to Adele for her 4th #1 and to JB for his 3rd top 3 hit.

Question: Does anybody know the last time a song debuted at #1 AND #2 in the same week?

"Anaconda" and "Shake It Off"?

Anaconda jumped 39-2 the week when the MV was released

[musicrocks]

Don't think this was posted yet

www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6746356/adele-no-1-hot-100-justin-bieber-no-2-sorry

Adele No. 1 on Hot 100, Justin Bieber Debuts at No. 2 With 'Sorry'

With 'Sorry' at No. 2 and prior hit 'What Do You Mean?' at No. 5, Biebs boasts simultaneous top five hits. Plus, Taylor Swift tallies a fourth Radio Songs No. 1 from '1989' with 'Wildest Dreams.'

As reported, Adele's "Hello" rockets onto the Billboard Hot 100 (dated Nov. 14) at No. 1, setting a record for the most downloads sold in a week: 1.11 million, according to Nielsen Music.

That's far from the only action in the Hot 100's upper reaches, as Justin Bieber's "Sorry" starts at No. 2. Plus, Taylor Swift collects a fourth No. 1 on the Radio Songs chart with "Wildest Dreams."

As we do each Monday, let's run down the Hot 100's top 10 and more (on the chart dated Nov. 14). Highlights of the airplay/sales/streaming-based Hot 100 post on Billboard.com each Monday, with all charts updated each Tuesday.

"Sorry" starts at No. 2 on the Hot 100, Digital Songs and Streaming Songs charts. It launches with 277,000 downloads sold in the week ending Oct. 29, according to Nielsen Music, and 23.1 million U.S. streams. It enters Radio Songs at No. 37 with 34 million in all-format audience (up 99 percent in its first full week of airplay).

A few key stats regarding Bieber's No. 2 debut:

Two No. 1 Hot 100 debuts in same week: With Adele arriving at No. 1 with "Hello" and Bieber bowing at No. 2 with "Sorry," the Hot 100 welcomes debuts in the first two spots for only the second time in the chart's 57-year history. On the June 28, 2003, chart, Clay Aiken's "This Is the Night" and Ruben Studdard's "Flying Without Wings" landed at Nos. 1 and 2, respectively, in their first weeks. Aiken and Studdard, of course, finished in reverse order in the 2003 season of Fox's American Idol; the songs were recorded as each's potential coronation single ahead of the season finale and made available for purchase following the episode.

Thus, while Adele and Bieber bring the second pair of simultaneous debuts at Nos. 1 and 2 on the Hot 100, "Hello" and "Sorry" mark the first set of Nos. 1 and 2 starters not so obviously related, a la Aiken and Studdard's Idol connection. Adele and Bieber's singles arrive adjacent more coincidentally (perhaps linked most closely by their shared apologetic lyrical themes).

Two top two debuts from same album: With Bieber having debuted at No. 1 on the Hot 100 with prior single "What Do You Mean?" (Sept. 19), "Sorry" (his eighth Hot 100 top 10) is the second song from his Nov. 13 album Purpose to start at No. 1 or 2. Only two other albums have yielded multiple singles that have entered the Hot 100 so high: Mariah Carey's Daydream (1995-96) and Eminem's Recovery (2010). The former LP generated the No. 1 beginners "Fantasy" and "One Sweet Day" (with Boyz II Men) and the No. 2 opener "Always Be My Baby" (which went on to hit the summit). The latter produced two No. 1 debuts: "Not Afraid" and "Love the Way You Lie" (featuring Rihanna).

Two in top five: Meanwhile, "Mean" remains in the Hot 100's top five, dipping 3-5. Bieber is the 20th solo male to double up in the top five, a list that started with Elvis Presley in 1959. (50 Cent holds the record among solo males, with three simultaneous top five Hot 100 hits for two weeks in 2005. He and the Beatles, with a clean-sweep record five on April 4, 1964, are the only acts to have logged at least three concurrent top five tracks.)

Beneath "Hello" and "Sorry" and above "Mean" on the Hot 100, Drake's "Hotline Bling" drops to No. 3 after three weeks at its No. 2 high, and perhaps overshadowed by Adele and Bieber's debuts, The Weeknd's "The Hills" falls to No. 4 after four nonconsecutive weeks on top. "Bling" replaces "Hills" atop Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, becoming Drake's lucky 13th No. 1 on the genre chart. "Bling" tallies a sixth week atop Hot Rap Songs, where it's Drake's record 15th No. 1. "Hills" leads the Hot R&B Songs chart for a seventh week.

Shawn Mendes' "Stitches" slips to No. 6 on the Hot 100 from its No. 4 peak, while Taylor Swift's "Wildest Dreams" drops to No. 7 from its No. 5 highpoint. Still, Swift adds a new honor with the song: "Dreams" darts 2-1 on Radio Songs (150 million, up 2 percent), becoming her fourth No. 1 from her album 1989 and her sixth Radio Songs leader overall. Swift previously topped the chart with 1989 singles "Shake It Off" (for four weeks), "Blank Space" (six) and "Bad Blood," featuring Kendrick Lamar (five). Her first two Radio Songs No. 1s: "You Belong With Me," for two weeks in 2009 (from Fearless), and "I Knew You Were Trouble." (four, 2013, from Red).

Rihanna boasts the most Radio Songs No. 1s (12), dating to the chart's 1990 origin, while Katy Perry has notched the most leaders from one album: five, from Teenage Dream (2010-11).

Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Fetty Wap's "679," featuring Remy Boyz, slides 6-8 after reaching No. 4; R. City's No. 6-peaking "Locked Away," featuring Maroon 5's Adam Levine, descends 8-9; and The Weeknd's former three-week Hot 100 No. 1 "Can't Feel My Face" falls 7-10.

Among action outside the Hot 100's top 10, Elle King's "Ex's & Oh's" rises to a new peak (15-12); Meghan Trainor's "Like I'm Gonna Lose You," featuring John Legend, leaps 18-13, also reaching a new best rank; and, Alessia Cara's breakthrough hit "Here" likewise charts new territory (20-15). Find out more noteworthy news throughout the chart in the weekly "Hot 100 Chart Moves" column to post later this week.

Visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Nov. 3), when all rankings, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh, as they do each Tuesday. The Hot 100 and other charts will also appear in the next issue of Billboard magazine, on sale Friday (Nov. 6).

[HolidayGuy]

musicrocks- do you mean No. 10 biggest digital sales week for "Hello's" second week, rather than debut?

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Hopefully Elle King can get that top 10. Nice to see somebody unexpected get some success.

[Enigma.]

1.112 million is just crazy.

[Kworb]

Nov 2, 2015 14:29:43 GMT -5 Queen of Insomnia. said:

Because of kworb predictions I was low-key anticipating her to double Florida #'s that would've been beyond epic... Oh well, huge sales nonetheless. Phuck it @ Harlem Shake still winning.

Including instant grats she's at 1.5 million! It's really a shame they put the album up at the same time.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Nov 2, 2015 13:36:08 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

1.110M = 111,000 in TEA
20M = 13.3K in SEA
TOTAL: 123K

She could debut at #3 on BB200 just off her single.

Actually, this raises an interesting point about SPS - why shouldn't 25 be allowed to chart with its lead single posting enough points? I mean, if BB (remix) counted towards 1989 (and it's not even on album), then what does release date have to do with anything? The formula is exactly the same and won't they numbers eventually be included in 25's overall sales for certification etc.? I know it's another rule change, but the way music consumption has evolved and the way it's being measured has changed too. So why should release dates dictate when there is legit numbers that would be included after the parent album street date?

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

The fact that in a week she banked half a million album pre-orders is kinda crazy. I'm starting to think a 2 million opener may be possible.

[balletgirlmom]

The charts are getting exciting!

[Leaf]

From the two articles:

Nov 2, 2015 13:44:59 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

The single, the 1,048th No. 1 in the Hot 100's 57-year history, dethrones The Weeknd's "The Hills" after six nonconsecutive weeks at No. 1.

Nov 2, 2015 14:39:39 GMT -5 musicrocks said:

The Weeknd's "The Hills" falls to No. 4 after four nonconsecutive weeks on top.

hmmm

[Libra]

Nov 2, 2015 15:27:10 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Nov 2, 2015 13:36:08 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

1.110M = 111,000 in TEA
20M = 13.3K in SEA
TOTAL: 123K

She could debut at #3 on BB200 just off her single.

Actually, this raises an interesting point about SPS - why shouldn't 25 be allowed to chart with its lead single posting enough points? I mean, if BB (remix) counted towards 1989 (and it's not even on album), then what does release date have to do with anything? The formula is exactly the same and won't they numbers eventually be included in 25's overall sales for certification etc.? I know it's another rule change, but the way music consumption has evolved and the way it's being measured has changed too. So why should release dates dictate when there is legit numbers that would be included after the parent album street date?

Because in cases like this, you can still clearly determine that it's one single driving all the actual points all by itself. It'd be tantamount to putting a single on the album chart.

[Au$tin]

Nov 2, 2015 14:04:40 GMT -5 Caviar said:

What's the difference between all those Adult Contemporary charts?

There are essentially four main adult contemporary formats.

The first one is AC (adult contemporary). It caters to your average soccer mom type. The format is usually very slow (though, that's obviously not the case with Adele, lol), with songs peaking on this format long after they're dead everywhere else. Their current number one is "Fight Song," for example.

Hot AC is a lot like AC, but more progressive. This means that it caters more for the not-quite-yet soccer moms or the older adult crowd that want to remain hip. They move in a similar pace to pop, and in fact mimic pop a lot, just more softer sounds and less rhythmic leaning material. A song by OneRepublic is more likely to do well here, for example. The current number one here is "Wildest Dreams," just like pop, but looking beyond the number one you see stuff like "Ex's & Oh's," "Renegades," "Someone New," "Hold Each Other," all performing better than they are on pop.

Outside of those two, you have two more AC-like formats.

Urban AC is going to be a lot of your soul, r&b, and Christian r&b music. They also move slow. The top three here, for example, are Tyrese's "Shame," The Weeknd's "Earned It," and Janet Jackson's "No Sleeep."

Finally, there is AAA, which stands for Adult Album Alternative. It's the rock AC format, essentially. They are also a bit slower moving (though not as bad as AC or Urban AC). They cater to the coffeehouse types. Number one there right now is the "S.O.B." song. Adele is extremely popular on this format. "Hello" is already #2 there on only its 10th day, which is insane.

[badrobot]

Nov 2, 2015 15:40:03 GMT -5 Libra said:

Nov 2, 2015 15:27:10 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Actually, this raises an interesting point about SPS - why shouldn't 25 be allowed to chart with its lead single posting enough points? I mean, if BB (remix) counted towards 1989 (and it's not even on album), then what does release date have to do with anything? The formula is exactly the same and won't they numbers eventually be included in 25's overall sales for certification etc.? I know it's another rule change, but the way music consumption has evolved and the way it's being measured has changed too. So why should release dates dictate when there is legit numbers that would be included after the parent album street date?

Because in cases like this, you can still clearly determine that it's one single driving all the actual points all by itself. It'd be tantamount to putting a single on the album chart.

I wondered about this too. You could argue that Mark Ronson's album was essentially a single on the album chart, though -- I believe for most of its run the majority of its points came from UF.

Then there are tricky situations were singles are released and then album plans shift or, even worse, songs are dropped from an album entirely or an album is straight up canceled (like Grimes' last album).

And what would you do with Rihanna's last few singles? It's messy. It makes sense to require a real album release at least for now.

[Dylan :)]

Adele is only the second female this year to top the chart (compared to 7 last year)

[Deleted]

Nov 2, 2015 15:56:53 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Adele is only the second female this year to top the chart (compared to 7 last year)

Yup, she and T-Swift. We began with the year with a female on top of the Hot 100, and we will most likely end the year with a female on top of the Hot 100.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Nov 2, 2015 15:48:05 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Nov 2, 2015 15:40:03 GMT -5 Libra said:

Because in cases like this, you can still clearly determine that it's one single driving all the actual points all by itself. It'd be tantamount to putting a single on the album chart.

I wondered about this too. You could argue that Mark Ronson's album was essentially a single on the album chart, though -- I believe for most of its run the majority of its points came from UF.

Then there are tricky situations were singles are released and then album plans shift or, even worse, songs are dropped from an album entirely or an album is straight up canceled (like Grimes' last album).

And what would you do with Rihanna's last few singles? It's messy. It makes sense to require a real album release at least for now.

It's definitely not perfect and can be messy, but in '25's' and the vast majority of cases, the single(s) is/are being sold as part of an existing album that is available for pre-sale - see Biebs, Ellie, etc. RiRi is different because the album was not available for pre-sale and I would exclude those where it's just the 'single' for sale and not as part of an album package. Like RiRi, if, say, Fetty Wap's singles didn't have an individual album available for pre-sale, then only those tracks would only eligible for singles charts, but as soon as it become available for pre-sale, tracks directly tied to that album would kick in BB200 eligibility. It would certainly have to be a case-by-case judgment, but Billboard already does that (see, BB (remix). And, yes, Ronson's BB200 points overwhelmingly came from UF. Back in the day, Billboard faced a similar issue when it was debated whether non-radio tracks would be allowed to chart on H100 - eventually they did.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Nov 2, 2015 15:48:05 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Nov 2, 2015 15:40:03 GMT -5 Libra said:

Because in cases like this, you can still clearly determine that it's one single driving all the actual points all by itself. It'd be tantamount to putting a single on the album chart.

I wondered about this too. You could argue that Mark Ronson's album was essentially a single on the album chart, though -- I believe for most of its run the majority of its points came from UF.

Then there are tricky situations were singles are released and then album plans shift or, even worse, songs are dropped from an album entirely or an album is straight up canceled (like Grimes' last album).

And what would you do with Rihanna's last few singles? It's messy. It makes sense to require a real album release at least for now.

But even if 99.999999% of his BB200 points came from UF, there were still a few copies being sold and a few of the tracks being bought/streamed. In the case of allowing 25 to chart because of Hello, it literally is nothing but the single.

I could definitely see a point in the future where big names do drop the album without any lead up to maximize chart position from TEA/SEA.

[areyoureadytojump]

Will Hello be #1 now for the rest of the year?

[SPRΞΞ]

Nov 2, 2015 16:44:13 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Will Hello be #1 now for the rest of the year?

Which year? lol

[balletgirlmom]

Of all the young girls (under 30), I think Adele and Taylor are the 2 who will last through their 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's and beyond.  They are both very talented and not as gimmicky as some.

[imbondz]

Nov 2, 2015 15:27:10 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Nov 2, 2015 13:36:08 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

1.110M = 111,000 in TEA
20M = 13.3K in SEA
TOTAL: 123K

She could debut at #3 on BB200 just off her single.

Actually, this raises an interesting point about SPS - why shouldn't 25 be allowed to chart with its lead single posting enough points? I mean, if BB (remix) counted towards 1989 (and it's not even on album), then what does release date have to do with anything? The formula is exactly the same and won't they numbers eventually be included in 25's overall sales for certification etc.? I know it's another rule change, but the way music consumption has evolved and the way it's being measured has changed too. So why should release dates dictate when there is legit numbers that would be included after the parent album street date?

Great point!!

[imbondz]

Nov 2, 2015 16:44:13 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Will Hello be #1 now for the rest of the year?

Or is there enough time left in 2015 for Hello to surpass Uptown Funk as #1 song of the year? That would be crazy.

[when the pawn...]

Related question - IF the 2015 Billboard Chart year went to the end of the year, would 25's points includes sales of "Hello" in these first few weeks before the album is released?

[Deleted]

Nov 2, 2015 17:06:55 GMT -5 imbondz said:

Nov 2, 2015 16:44:13 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Will Hello be #1 now for the rest of the year?

Or is there enough time left in 2015 for Hello to surpass Uptown Funk as #1 song of the year? That would be crazy.

no way in the world. After this week, there's only 2 weeks left in the cutoff date before the year end list is tallied up and released next month, so no. As far as this calendar year goes though, is very likely. "Uptown Funk" is a lock for the top spot.