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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 21:35:15 GMT -5
I just love how Chris' success is exposing all Country radio's flaws and lies at it's deepest roots. Album of the Year worthy really
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 16, 2015 22:08:54 GMT -5
I just love how Chris' success is exposing all Country radio's flaws and lies at it's deepest roots. Is it though?
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 16, 2015 22:17:01 GMT -5
I think many listeners are unaware of the "system" in country radio and how it all works. They see someone like Stapleton have the night he had on the CMA Awards and while they might be dumbfounded why they never heard him on their local station, they don't view it as a way to expose radio's flaws in breaking talent, since most folks either aren't in depth into that sort of thing or simply don't care. They perhaps see it as just mainstream country radio turning its back on a more traditional minded artists (which wouldn't be surprising) and while that is partly true, it doesn't tell the whole story.
I too am skeptical this wave of radio airplay can last past "Nobody To Blame" but there's no doubting that Chris is far better off today than he was a month ago.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 16, 2015 22:54:42 GMT -5
This dude listened to a LOT of Travis Tritt. Great song.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:57:08 GMT -5
I think many listeners are unaware of the "system" in country radio and how it all works. They see someone like Stapleton have the night he had on the CMA Awards and while they might be dumbfounded why they never heard him on their local station, they don't view it as a way to expose radio's flaws in breaking talent, since most folks either aren't in depth into that sort of thing or simply don't care. They perhaps see it as just mainstream country radio turning its back on a more traditional minded artists (which wouldn't be surprising) and while that is partly true, it doesn't tell the whole story. I too am skeptical this wave of radio airplay can last past "Nobody To Blame" but there's no doubting that Chris is far better off today than he was a month ago. A lot of people I know are literally belligerent with radio, lol (because radio hasn't been playing Chris). I'm not one to say "finally, real country music is back", but I've seen people saying that (and similar statements) a LOT on Facebook. I've also seen tons of memes ridiculing the state of country radio while simultaneously praising Chris. I've said it often here on Pulse, but I think there are a TON of people who love country music...but just not the stuff that's popular on radio. And now they're all rallying behind Chris whether he wants them to or not. Artists like Chris and also Sturgill Simpson have said that they don't want to be the face of some traditional movement (and I completely understand where they're coming from) but Chris really isn't going to have a choice here. Most people don't get how radio works, that's true. However, I think that's a real problem FOR radio because now they have to face a bunch of questions and criticisms from people who are demanding/wondering why they hadn't really been playing Chris prior to the CMA's. And I can't imagine that many radio folks enjoy it. I've seen a number of radio stations responding to people on Facebook, and judging from the tone of their [the stations'] posts, it seems like they are really scrambling to defend themselves. And that's really the main reason why I fear that they'll eventually cool off when it comes to Chris, because radio stations might subconsciously (or maybe even consciously) and unfortunately associate Chris -- through no fault of his own -- with what could potentially wind up being weeks of getting bickered at by hundreds of people on social media. Obviously Chris has a ton of support and respect from the industry (or else he wouldn't have been nominated at the CMA's, let alone won those awards) but I guess the reason that I still have some doubt is because I'm not convinced yet that the gatekeepers of corporate country radio are ready to move back toward a more traditional sound. To me it'd be foolish for radio to not turn this guy into a star, but if they don't, I unfortunately wouldn't be all that surprised. Now, with all that said, I'm not saying that I don't have hope. I actually have quite a bit of hope (that Chris will manage a decent amount of mainstream success...without having to conform to mainstream trends, I should add). Chris is white hot right now and he's getting more attention than I ever dreamed possible. I mean, just take a look at the Billboard Country Update tonight -- that's all the proof you need. "Tennessee Whiskey" remains at #1 on Hot Country Songs, and it vaults 14-3 on Country Streaming Songs. "Traveller" debuts at #11 on Country Streaming Songs, and it surges 23-17 on Hot Country Songs (where it's the Streaming Gainer). Also on Hot Country Songs, "Whiskey And You" moves 40-35, "Nobody To Blame" moves 50-38, "Fire Away" moves 46-41, "Might As Well Get Stoned" debuts at #44, "Outlaw State Of Mind" debuts at #45, and "Parachute" debuts at #50. Simply incredible.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 17, 2015 1:16:15 GMT -5
9 of the 14 songs on the album and 10 of his 15 available to iTunes made the digital download chart. "Parachute" is just outside the 100 downloads and is joined by "Daddy Doesn't Pray Anymore" "Was It 26," "The Devil Named Music" and "When The Stars Come Out" as the only songs from his record NOT to make that chart this week (or last).
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Post by kw9461 on Nov 17, 2015 1:44:53 GMT -5
A couple of thoughts on this great story. First, I'm very interested to see how this song researches. Radio's longstanding argument against playing Chris and more traditional artists seemed to be based on the belief that they simply didn't appeal to the masses. Well I think the sales pretty much speak for themselves. As long as the callout is strong (and I fully expect it to be), radio will have no pillar to stand on if they don't play Chris. Not saying that guarantees success, but the smartest move would be to fully embrace Chris and hope everyone forgets how they ignored him pre-CMA's (basically like they did with Girl Crush). Choosing the right follow up will be huge, as the one-hit wonder possibilities are certainly present. I personally hope they re-release Travller. So few people even knew it was a single, i don't see that as a hindrance, and it seems to be the track that new fans are reacting the most to (the streaming data jhomes87 posted only confirms what I'd suspecting from talking to folks i know).
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 17, 2015 11:14:06 GMT -5
A couple of thoughts on this great story. First, I'm very interested to see how this song researches. Radio's longstanding argument against playing Chris and more traditional artists seemed to be based on the belief that they simply didn't appeal to the masses. Well I think the sales pretty much speak for themselves. As long as the callout is strong (and I fully expect it to be), radio will have no pillar to stand on if they don't play Chris. Not saying that guarantees success, but the smartest move would be to fully embrace Chris and hope everyone forgets how they ignored him pre-CMA's (basically like they did with Girl Crush). Choosing the right follow up will be huge, as the one-hit wonder possibilities are certainly present. I personally hope they re-release Travller. So few people even knew it was a single, i don't see that as a hindrance, and it seems to be the track that new fans are reacting the most to (the streaming data jhomes87 posted only confirms what I'd suspecting from talking to folks i know). This song also had like a 45% increase over last week's first chart number. That's because people are playing it on the radio.
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Post by kim8 on Nov 17, 2015 11:39:11 GMT -5
I would love to see a re-release of Traveller as a single too. It's by far one of my favorites and very catchy. I would be really interested to see how it fares now after all the attention Chris has gotten. I'm also kind of surprised that Parachute doesn't have more downloads. That's another one of my favorites and probably the least country sounding. I think it's an extremely likeable song.
I am beyond thrilled at the attention Chris is getting. I hope it continues. His winning those 3 awards and his humbleness and genuine appreciation was awesome to see. I really wanted Eric Church to win male vocalist but there is no one else I'd rather see him lose to.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 2, 2015 17:26:30 GMT -5
Debuts at #46 on the Canadian country chart.
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Post by Marv on Dec 2, 2015 18:16:59 GMT -5
His triumphs at the CMAs were indeed a scalding indictment of today's country radio and the mediocre wall of copycats who are hogging the charts and polluting the airwaves.
When one compares LB, FGL and JA to 80s country megastars such as Milsap, Alabama and Rogers who certainly enjoyed success at top 40 radio alongside their legendary country classics offer undeniable proof thst their music showing unimpeachable proof that their respective strings of instant classics to go with the truckloads of award-winning hardware they won from the ACMs, CMAs, Billboard, R&R and every other reputable country oriented awards/recognition entity out there, it's very obvious that today's country radio gatekeepers really have a ton of explaining to do given the accolades and rewards with which Chris and LBT were showered with last month.
For them to turn their backs on the current CDs from Strait, Jackson, Henley, & Ms.Womack and others for no remotely intelligent reason is abominable; thank goodness that there are SOME country MDs and PDS who are not slaves to the national charts at country powerhouses including KPLX and Y100 (KCYY) who are playing the **** out of CBC because of the towering and overwhelming quality of the tune.
The CMA wins for both Mr. Singleton as well as LBT were both well deserved, and the chart run for Girl Crush was yet another blistering indictment of the narrow mindset of far too many squeamish MDs and PDs out there who need to catch up to the wants and desires of their listening audience, with the digital sales for both 'Girl Crudh' as well as Singleton's string of tracks previously cited
When folks vote their approval of a song by heading to ITunes or anywhere else and whipping out their credit cards, then the gatekeepers need to realize that their audience wants and EXPECTS to hear those songs on the radio as opposed to a FGL piece of crap with the exception of 'Dirt' every 35-45 minutes or excruciating tunes such as TMKON or WSSB which should have never reach the eardrums of the general country music listening public IMHO.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 2, 2015 19:17:31 GMT -5
His triumphs at the CMAs were indeed a scalding indictment of today's country radio and the mediocre wall of copycats who are hogging the charts and polluting the airwaves. When one compares LB, FGL and JA to 80s country megastars such as Milsap, Alabama and Rogers who certainly enjoyed success at top 40 radio alongside their legendary country classics offer undeniable proof thst their music showing unimpeachable proof that their respective strings of instant classics to go with the truckloads of award-winning hardware they won from the ACMs, CMAs, Billboard, R&R and every other reputable country oriented awards/recognition entity out there, it's very obvious that today's country radio gatekeepers really have a ton of explaining to do given the accolades and rewards with which Chris and LBT were showered with last month. For them to turn their backs on the current CDs from Strait, Jackson, Henley, & Ms.Womack and others for no remotely intelligent reason is abominable; thank goodness that there are SOME country MDs and PDS who are not slaves to the national charts at country powerhouses including KPLX and Y100 (KCYY) who are playing the **** out of CBC because of the towering and overwhelming quality of the tune. The CMA wins for both Mr. Singleton as well as LBT were both well deserved, and the chart run for Girl Crush was yet another blistering indictment of the narrow mindset of far too many squeamish MDs and PDs out there who need to catch up to the wants and desires of their listening audience, with the digital sales for both 'Girl Crudh' as well as Singleton's string of tracks previously cited When folks vote their approval of a song by heading to ITunes or anywhere else and whipping out their credit cards, then the gatekeepers need to realize that their audience wants and EXPECTS to hear those songs on the radio as opposed to a FGL piece of crap with the exception of 'Dirt' every 35-45 minutes or excruciating tunes such as TMKON or WSSB which should have never reach the eardrums of the general country music listening public IMHO. So you want songs that you like that happen to be decent sellers to do well, but you expect extremely well selling songs by artists you don't like to be ignored by radio. Doesn't that sound a little hypocritical?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 2, 2015 22:40:19 GMT -5
I just listened to Tennessee Whiskey and subsequently Chris Stapleton for the first time. That's what I'm talking about! I'll have to check out this one to see if he actually is up my alley.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 22:51:27 GMT -5
I just listened to Tennessee Whiskey and subsequently Chris Stapleton for the first time. That's what I'm talking about! I'll have to check out this one to see if he actually is up my alley. His rendition of "Tennessee Whiskey" is much more soulful than "Nobody To Blame" (NTB is more straight-up country). But the album has all kinds of stuff...it's got some throwback country-sounding songs like the ballads "Whiskey And You" and "Daddy Doesn't Pray Anymore" (the latter is a real tearjerker), and then "Parachute" is more of an uptempo rocker. "When The Stars Come Out" was written with Dan Wilson (who of course wrote quite a few songs with Adele). The album closer "Sometimes I Cry" is definitely more of a soul/blues track.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Dec 3, 2015 0:44:08 GMT -5
I'll have to check out this one to see if he actually is up my alley. Knowing your country music taste leans more towards the traditional side, I think he'd be right up your alley. Go check out Jason Isbell's latest album too.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 4, 2015 1:53:41 GMT -5
I've heard this a few times on the radio now and I must say that I love it. I still need to check out his album, which I will probably enjoy at least to some degree since I already like both this and the title track. Glad that this one has taken off so nicely on country radio following the CMAs. It's very nice to see that happening, and listening to the song, I feel like it's not nearly as unconventional as I expected it to be when I first heard it. I think this one still fits in pretty nicely on the radio.
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Post by Marv on Dec 4, 2015 5:19:20 GMT -5
It sounds SUPERB on the radio--easily among the three or four very best songs currently on CT40.
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Post by Future Captain on Dec 4, 2015 11:09:32 GMT -5
I've never really been into Country, but wow, this guy is a little bit of everything. Love him, and it would be lovely if he could be Country's equivalent of Adele
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Dec 7, 2015 8:26:18 GMT -5
Grammys:
Traveller is nominated for Best Country Album and Album of the Year!
Title track also nominated for Best Country Solo Performance and Best Country Song.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 7, 2015 11:46:58 GMT -5
ALBUM OF THE YEAR!!!
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Post by phil1996 on Dec 7, 2015 11:54:38 GMT -5
He's gotta have a performance slot then, I would imagine?
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 7, 2015 12:07:16 GMT -5
He's gotta have a performance slot then, I would imagine? Undoubtedly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 23:50:44 GMT -5
This gains another million in audience and moves up to #26 on Billboard, after just its 5th week on the chart. And looking ahead to next week, I wouldn't be surprised to see Chris jump at least 4 spots: "Smoke Break" will go recurrent, "Riser" is apparently done, and Chris is on pace to pass Rascal Flatts and A Thousand Horses. If he has a big enough week, he could chase down Chase Bryant as well. The 4 Grammy nominations are HUGE. As 14887fan said, Chris will be pretty much a lock to perform. And now we get news that Traveller was certified Gold by the RIAA. I think the album could go on to sell more than 1 million, especially if he blows the Grammy audience away just like he did at the CMA's.
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Post by maine on Dec 9, 2015 14:17:04 GMT -5
I'm actually not too big on this one. I love "Tennessee Whisky", but this hasn't really had the same effect on me. Something about it doesn't really click with me. I still gotta check out his album though.
I do hope this does well though. He's a great artist and he deserves radio success.
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Post by tim on Dec 9, 2015 14:52:13 GMT -5
I'm actually not too big on this one. I love "Tennessee Whisky", but this hasn't really had the same effect on me. Something about it doesn't really click with me. I still gotta check out his album though. I do hope this does well though. He's a great artist and he deserves radio success. I feel the same. When I had this album on repeat over the summer this actually happened to be one of the songs I skipped over as it just never connected with me the way the rest of the album did. This and "Was It 26" are my least favorite two songs from the album, so to say the least I was a bit surprised when this one got released to radio. That said, I hope this finds success at radio.
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Post by Marv on Dec 9, 2015 16:28:43 GMT -5
Country radio could certainly use a breath of fresh air in this bro-country era, and Chris brings a ton of it to a format really in need of it.
This will undoubtedly be one of 2016's very biggest singles.
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Post by zjames on Dec 9, 2015 17:00:22 GMT -5
This one's selling great right now, #77 all-genre. It's outselling Eric Church and Tim McGraw's lead singles and singles from A-listers Blake and Jason. My mind still cannot comprehend the success and fame Chris has earned since the CMA Awards. This is clearly connecting with audiences, and the Grammys will give him even more exposure with a performance slot, I'm assuming. Hell, he has a decent chance at an Album of the Year win in my opinion.
My questions are: How far can "Nobody To Blame" realistically make it up the charts? Is he gonna ride this momentum to a Top 10 hit? A #1 hit? And how do you think future singles of his are going to perform?
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Post by Marv on Dec 14, 2015 16:11:40 GMT -5
DVR alert--Chris and Bruce Springsteen will both appear on Jimmy Fallon's show this coming Thursday, December 17t.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Dec 15, 2015 19:35:19 GMT -5
Yes! So excited about this! Thanks for letting me know Marv. Definitely will watch that night's show. I'm so glad people are responding very well to Chris' new single. I can't wait for the music video! And FGL that's why staying true to Country music matters. It's not about the money, it's about making true and real authentic music that can inspire and motivate people and lift them up when they are down.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 15, 2015 20:11:33 GMT -5
Yes! So excited about this! Thanks for letting me know Marv. Definitely will watch that night's show. I'm so glad people are responding very well to Chris' new single. I can't wait for the music video! And FGL that's why staying true to Country music matters. It's not about the money, it's about making true and real authentic music that can inspire and motivate people and lift them up when they are down. A song about how the protagonist keeps screwing up his relationship is there to lift you up when you're down? Lol
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