Dance Vs. Hip-Hop.

[btwnymoeu86]

I go to the club and hear the PCD's "Dont'cha" (the Ralphi mix) or Sylver's "All This Time" and I flip out, as do most people. They're both amazing songs to dance to. Now you hear a hip hop/reggae song, Ciara, Usher, even Rihanna, and I'm just as inclined to want to dance. I've read before on here when people get angry that stations play hip hop and consider it dancey. What are your feelings? Cause this was brought up the other day with me, and I genuinely didn't know how to answer. Genre is genre, but it can't be defined by that, right? I'd love to hear other people's thoughts.

[[upsilon]™]

I'm mixed with this whole topic; for instance, KTU plays both dance and hip-hop (or rhythmic) and it does get annoying after a while, since it's proclaims itself as "the best dance station in the world", when in fact the majority of "dance stations" play dance!

In the club, for me at least, it's different. I wouldn't mind if they played the really danceable kind of hip-hop/rhythmic like "Pon De Replay", "Caught Up", or even "Outta Control [Remix]" by 50 Cent. They're really danceable and are great for clubs. But, again, it's one thing to play dance and rhythmic in clubs than to just play rhythmic, which isn't club msuic, per se.

[cabanaboy134]

On dance radio:
I would love to hear more original mixes of tracks. For instance, I'm starting to kind of hate the My Humps dance remix the Beat keeps playing. I love that song because of the ALBUM version, which is "dance" music to my ears. Sometimes I think dance radio feels obligated to play the gayed-out dance remixes of any popular song, probably just to support the genre overall, but I'd rather not hear that sometimes. I'd love to have heard album versions of "Yeah" and "1,2 Step" on dance radio... not the remixes. Given that, I still want the majority of the dance music played to be gayed-out house-based dance tracks.

I also wish The Beat would play the album versions of "Dont'cha" and "Pon De Replay" every once in a while.

[bubblepop15]

upsilon710 said:

I'm mixed with this whole topic; for instance, KTU plays both dance and hip-hop (or rhythmic) and it does get annoying after a while, since it's proclaims itself as "the best dance station in the world", when in fact the majority of "dance stations" play dance!

In the club, for me at least, it's different. I wouldn't mind if they played the really danceable kind of hip-hop/rhythmic like "Pon De Replay", "Caught Up", or even "Outta Control [Remix]" by 50 Cent. They're really danceable and are great for clubs. But, again, it's one thing to play dance and rhythmic in clubs than to just play rhythmic, which isn't club msuic, per se.

Lol Outta Control and Caught Up are the opposite of Dance IMO

[btwnymoeu86]

When I went out back home over the summer to a different club then the one they have here, I go to college in Upstate NY and live on Long Island, I'd go out and people wouldn't mind dancing to genuine dance, Narcotic Thrust, Reina, Kim Sozzi. But whenever people heard Daddy Yankee's "Gasolina", Will Smith's "Switch", NORE's "Oye Mi Canto" Don Omar's "Dale Don Dale", Missy Elliott's "Lose Control" BEP's "Don't PWM Heart" Terror Squad's "Lean Back", 50 Cent's "Candy Shop", Mariah Carey "It's Like That" Amerie's "One Thing" Pitbull's "Culo" Akon "Belly Dancer" even the Crooklyn Clan's "Party Anthem (Get Your Hands Up)" with Fatman Scoop, a whole group of "my" people who should be in to pure dance music, genuinely have a better time with this type of stuff. Keeping in mind all the things I've mentioned above are regular album versions.

I can say without stuttering that I have a better time dancing to music that isn't dance music.

I can also understand how people love dance music (as do I) to such an extent that they don't want media inindated with it so as to overshadow this genre of music. I just think to say hip hop isn't dance music is wrong.

I've read before on here when people get angry that stations play hip hop and consider it dancey. What are your feelings?

I said stations, but I meant people in general.

[cabanaboy134]

btwnymoeu86 said:

I can also understand how people love dance music (as do I) to such an extent that they don't want media inindated with it so as to overshadow this genre of music. I just think to say hip hop isn't dance music is wrong.

I completely agree with you here. If it's good solid dance music, I don't care what genre it is. I'll probably love it if I hear it enough. I love dancing to radio hip-hop in clubs.

[[upsilon]™]

Hip-hop and dance are very related, so much that they both get plays in clubs. But I just think that most hip-hop is just too dislocated from its dance-ish background that it just shouldn't be played in club and dance radio. "Badd" and "Dreams" are examples.

I feel the same way with some, if not most, electronica ("Feel Good, Inc." and "Only This Moment" by Royksopp are good examples of electronica that really shouldn't be mixed with dance-able music).

[rollingmusic]

btwnymoeu86 said:

I can also understand how people love dance music (as do I) to such an extent that they don't want media inindated with it so as to overshadow this genre of music. I just think to say hip hop isn't dance music is wrong.

And I don't understand why there are some people who love to label hip hop as dance music. "Dance Music" was simply the name it was given because of obvious reasons. That doesn't mean that hip hop is dance.

FACT: You can dance to ANY kind of music. Classical! Ballads! Rock! Does this mean then that we should just put them under dance too? I think not. If you like dance music and hip hop, more power to you... but why the need to put them together? That's beyond me. To say tat hip hop is dance is wrong.

[billcs]

This has been talked about so much in many other threads in this forum....

[Ace of Clubs]

Most people dance to hip hop these days because that's all they know. That's all they play on the m.f.'in radio. And to people too young to remember music before say 1993, radio is all that seems to matter. I personally remember how hip hop began AS dance music! "Rapper's Delight" was a disco tune ("Good Times" by Chic) with a rap over it. Afrika Bambaataa and others fed the breakdance craze with dance songs like "Planet Rock" and "Looking For The Perfect Beat." Then around 1992, it was decided that MC Hammer was no longer "cool," because happy dance music was just too childish. So MC Hammer dropped the "MC" and tried to go gangsta, to be "cool" like other pimps & cop killers like Ice T & NWA. That's when hip hop and dance music parted ways. Recently, the trend has been for hip hop to start getting a bit more back to it's roots. Missy Elliott's "Lose Control," for example is a dance song any way you slice it. But as a whole, hip hop is still the disease that pushed dance music to the underground (it's more of an "alternative" format than "alternative music" is!), and all but destroyed house music in the US. Like it was said before, you can dance to anything, but since 1992 anyway, 95% of hip hop is not DANCE music. KTU is selling out by playing it!