Nicki Minaj – "Pink Friday 2: The Hiatus"

[think pink.]

We think "Regret In Your Tears" is about SB or Meek?.

[Linnethia Monique]

Probably a mix of both.

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Mar 9, 2017 19:06:28 GMT -5 Caviar said:

"Only" is one of my favorite rap songs of all time! Props to Dr. Luke!

Damn sis. Your rap playlist must be shorter than a post by certain posters. Where is drag she buys and gifts records like candy. I need my fav posters like yourself to step it up in tastes !
.Dr luke ain't hiphop.

[Hashtag Pow]

"Regret In Your Tears" is definitely the best of the 3 songs. And that says a lot considering Nicki's singing is cringeworthy.

[wavey.]

I like "No Frauds" & "Regret In Your Tears". Not feeling "Changed It"..yet.

[think pink.]

We getting an album soon or nah? She dropped some buzz tracks last go around that never made the album...

"Lookin' Ass" SHOULD have been on Pinkprint though. I know she was upset about that.

[wavey.]

Mar 10, 2017 1:09:38 GMT -5 think pink. said:

We getting an album soon or nah? She dropped some buzz tracks last go around that never made the album...

"Lookin' Ass" SHOULD have been on Pinkprint though. I know she was upset about that.

Right are these just randos, or what. tamed09 said NF was the first official single....where is that Future track?

[It's me, bitch.]

Mar 10, 2017 1:00:49 GMT -5 Hashtag Pow said:

"Regret In Your Tears" is definitely the best of the 3 songs. And that says a lot considering Nicki's singing is cringeworthy.

Agree. The other two sound like the same thinf. Boring, uneventful, etc.

[Glove Slap]

RIYT is my favorite as well.

Sonically, they could all fit right in on her last album (No Frauds a bit less so), but that's not a strike against them.

I'm optimistically expecting an album before the end of summer, but I wouldn't be surprised if it came much sooner since they put out 3 tracks at once rather than just a buzz track or a radio track.

[.indulgecountry]

Love the new songs! I neeeeed a new Nicki Minaj album like yesterday.

[think pink.]

I vote for No Frauds. Love "Regret In Your Tears" but don't want Meek to get any satisfaction from it lol.

http://instagram.com/p/BRct2lyhYXF

[SHOOTER]

[Glove Slap]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRc1xwnh1lS

[think pink.]

Not 72 hours to drop a hit

Not half a mil to book a show or interview without mentioning her name

[Evergreen]

I'm gagging. Sorry, but Nicki is just that bitch. Why just win a rap battle when you can win at life?

[wavey.]

Mar 10, 2017 2:45:03 GMT -5 SHOOTER said:

Witcho sleepy ass 😉

[Relaxing Cup]

Mar 10, 2017 3:28:01 GMT -5 think pink. said:

Not 72 hours to drop a hit

Not half a mil to book a show or interview without mentioning her name

lol @ Nicki giving Remy 72 hours when she took 2 whole weeks.


How about she donate that half a mill to a women's shelter or a rape crisis center. Seeing as she can spend the $$$ to defend her child rapist brother.

[#LisaRinna]

Somebody needs to tell Nicki she needs to chill with this "beating Aretha" mess. Not with them lil features. Aretha was a LEAD act on all hers. #NoFrauds

[think pink.]

Mar 10, 2017 10:03:10 GMT -5 #LisaRinna said:

Somebody needs to tell Nicki she needs to chill with this "beating Aretha" mess. Not with them lil features. Aretha was a LEAD act on all hers. #NoFrauds

Her features are what made so many songs though and gave them the extra exposure.

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iTunes:

No Frauds - #1
Regret In Your Tears - #4
Changed It - #5

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[wavey.]

I think a feature gets just as much credit as a leader, but that's just moi.

[Relaxing Cup]

For better or for worse, gettin that HuffPo press!

Nicki Minaj Drops ‘No Frauds’ In Response To Remy Ma’s ‘shETHER’

The feud between Nicki Minaj and Remy Ma continues as Minaj has thrown the latest jab.

Her new song, “No Frauds,” featuring Lil Wayne and Drake, is said to be her response to Remy Ma’s obvious diss track “shETHER.” There’s been a lot of questioning as to when Minaj would finally respond to Remy Ma’s repeated attacks; after “shETHER,” she went for the one-two punch and dropped “Another One.”

At least one fan suggested the song was merely “a business move” in a tweet shared hundreds of times, but we think there’s no question that “No Frauds” is about Remy.

In the first verse alone, we have, “Tried to drop ‘Another One,’ you was itchin’ to scrap / You exposed your ghostwriter, now you wish you were scrapped.” Then, “Back to back, oh you mean, back to wack? ‘Back to Back’? Me and Drizzy laughed at that.”

You can listen to “No Frauds” on Apple Music while we wait to see what Remy’s follow-up will be.

For its part, Twitter was up in arms about the drop, which left a lot of people unimpressed with Minaj:

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nicki-minaj-drops-no-frauds-in-response-to-remy-mas-shether_us_58c2b916e4b0d1078ca63eb6?36vxf3zluw10olmcxr&

Also, lol @ Nicki disabling the comments section on that IG post to Remy. SMDH.

[Caviar]

The numbers speak for themselves.

[PopLuva]

Nicki is the queen and that is it. Love all 3 songs.

[Glove Slap]

Mar 10, 2017 10:03:10 GMT -5 #LisaRinna said:

Somebody needs to tell Nicki she needs to chill with this "beating Aretha" mess. Not with them lil features. Aretha was a LEAD act on all hers. #NoFrauds

Mar 10, 2017 10:16:58 GMT -5 think pink. said:

Mar 10, 2017 10:03:10 GMT -5 #LisaRinna said:

Somebody needs to tell Nicki she needs to chill with this "beating Aretha" mess. Not with them lil features. Aretha was a LEAD act on all hers. #NoFrauds

Her features are what made so many songs though and gave them the extra exposure.

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iTunes:

No Frauds - #1
Regret In Your Tears - #4
Changed It - #5

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Mar 10, 2017 11:32:21 GMT -5 wavey. said:

I think a feature gets just as much credit as a leader, but that's just moi.

These are pretty much all valid imo depending on how you angle your view. The lead/feature debate will be here for a while, and I think it is definitely moving away from features being discounted even more and more today. That said, there's nothing wrong with thinking that any feature is automatically less than a lead billing. You can think that, there's certainly validity to it, but as the years go on, there's going to be a smaller and smaller percentage that adheres to that strict guideline. We're already at that point now where it's more than noticeable, and it isn't by chance. It's also not only Hip Hop in this respect. I think the Electronic breakthrough at the turn of the decade also pushed the importance on who is credited for what and who adds what further into murkiness. You can be the lead act on your own song even if you don't do the vocals, and most won't bat an eye today. It also doesn't really hinder the lead act imo. Turn Me On & Hey Mama aren't know as just Nicki Minaj songs, they're known as David Guetta and Nicki Minaj tracks. For Nicki, I personally wouldn't say that her major features, especially early on, had her as a tack-on. If she didn't steal the show, which she usually did, she was always a great foil and enhanced the track further. And of course her Dance collaborations have her associated with them for obvious reasons. Even as recently as Side To Side, her verse stood out and was an additional catchy and memorable part to the song, even if it wasn't her best work.

Regarding Nicki bragging about dropping hits: Black Pop, and Hip Hop as a part of it, has always aimed for commercial appeal and success, in addition to the issues and topics presented. I think even today, there's an automatic way to look at genres by the way of a White, Middle Class, Rock listener, where poverty and the need for basic survival weren't anywhere near the forefront of their thoughts and goals. The YM mentality is right along these lines of Black Pop that's been there since at least Motown, it's not new. As with Wayne, Drake and Nicki weren't just supposed to have hits, they were meant to become major stars who had instant recognition value in simply being themselves. I think with the CM fiasco with Baby, Wayne's omnipresence seems further away than it is, but that's what he was as well for years and years. You could always tell a Wayne feature and pick him out, and he built on that. Polarization isn't a bad thing in itself, if anything it's a strong sign of individuality and that someone is being noticed, it's just tricky to manage properly.

At the same time, there is definitely something dirty about the way Nicki has gone about responding on a group track, but it wasn't surprising. It's one thing with someone like Remy who isn't new, but if there was a new female rapper who was breaking through who she took shots on group tracks like this, I actually think it'd look worse on her. Iggy was an easy target for multiple reasons, but it was Nicki who first started taking major digs at her that summer. It also works to Nicki's credit that Iggy essentially had no catalog or history behind her, but if someone else rides up with strong features the way Nicki did in their own way, there won't be as much instant support behind Nicki.

Imo, Hip Hop has gone through at least 3 separate full cycles and long eras. Not as campaigns or certain artists, but what it actually sounds like. From the 80s Golden Age, to the 90s G-Funk, gangsta rap, and increased braggadocio (which naturally grew from the previous era, especially from Rakim), to the 00s where it moved away from samples being expected to making tracks from scratch and full-blown commercial power, and now to the minimal, trap period (which again can have parallels drawn back to the 80s when Hip Hop tracks consisted of a drum beat and synth work and samples that became more and more sparse as the decade went on) You can also split all those periods further, from the first half of the 80s with a more electronic sound to the second half when those elements were removed more and more (Run DMC becoming big can be seen as an important separation point), splitting the 90s between the G-funk/Coastal beef era and the subsequent bling-bling emergence in the late 90s through the first half of the 00s, etc.

There's definitely something in history and continuity, but holding things to the exact same standards gets tougher and tougher as everything changes around. This is where battle raps actually come in, because it's just an emcee standing their ground with a mic, that aspect is essentially the same. But I think with the Internet it also has lost some edge in the public eye. You no longer have to wait for the track or scour magazine or wait for TV programs to hear the artist talk about their diss or response, and anticipation is naturally dulled through social media digs. At the same time, there's new rappers saying they haven't heard much of Biggie, which 10-15 years ago was essentially a cardinal sin, to the extent where it would be expected to have a significant negative impact on someone's cred and marketability. I forget what article it was, might have been from Complex, but it talked about how there was a disconnect and lack of interest between the old and new schools of Hip Hop from both sides. The older generation doesn't have an interest in teaching and passing their experiences and knowledge to the very young acts, and the younger acts don't make it a point to seek out veterans because they're building their careers with the help of the current movers and shakers around. You can say that it used to be like this, or that real Hip Hop is that, but less and less people care, and there is no better way to turn off the attention of a younger generation by berating them for things before their time. You're not helping anything or anyone going about like that.

It doesn't matter how shocking Lil Kim's lyrics were or how much of a revolutionary Missy Elliott was during her main run to a 15 or 16 year old today. Sure, they may learn about and appreciate their huge impact in time, but that's a different point and not fully relevant to them in the here and now. They don't remember for obvious reasons. It's not part of their generation and their pop culture experience. And naturally, they have a demand for acts for them for their time. I think that's where Nicki goes into a certain ground, both for better or worse. For an entire generation she is essentially the only major contemporary Female rapper, certainly the only one fully maximizing the opportunities of today to always be present in the scene in one way or another. You can say many things about Wayne, but imo it's very obvious that he's taught her about the biz, and I think for the better ultimately. That IG post was essentially a partial thank you to him. Same for Drake, I think both Nicki and him took note of Wayne's progression through features, when even then people were saying he was on too many songs. It still kept him in the game and built his profile year after year. Until the current decade when social media could really be turned into returns down the line, Hip Hop probably more than any other genre, was notable for fast turnover. Nicki's 34 years old, 10 years older than Biggie and 9 years older than Tupac at the time of their respective passings. She's also been major in the public eye for 7 years or so now, a decent time for any celebrity, but also a time that is longer than one traditionally expected a Hip Hop artist to stay a major force. She's operating with a retirement plan, and blatantly, which is not something you would see mentioned in Hip Hop much in its first 2 decades. That said, there's no other female even five rungs below her. Over time, this "fear" of competition has been the root of her less stellar moments. The debate about whether she should directly help Female rappers (especially since all the power players in her own come up were essentially all men), and her right to state her dominance at any time she wants itself has several angles of its own, but ultimately I do think having no kind of direct competition is a bad look for Women in Rap. That's not going to change by Nicki staying or being more successful, it's the negative results of a lack of competition. It's not so much a bad move on Nicki's own part, than it is that we may have a full generation go through without any competing women in Hip Hop.

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Mar 10, 2017 10:02:55 GMT -5 Relaxing Cup said:

Mar 10, 2017 3:28:01 GMT -5 think pink. said:

Not 72 hours to drop a hit

Not half a mil to book a show or interview without mentioning her name

lol @ Nicki giving Remy 72 hours when she took 2 whole weeks.


How about she donate that half a mill to a women's shelter or a rape crisis center. Seeing as she can spend the $$$ to defend her child rapist brother.

THIS is the biggest kii. Nicki waiting all this time and having the nerve to demand a 3 day window.

She better be lucky Remy messed up and put out "Another One". That was really Nicki's only saving grace in all this, because all 3 tracks she put out today are (surprisingly) weak. The Meek one especially.

[Caviar]

They're weak but she's currently holding down the top 5? Lol I can't

[Linnethia Monique]

Mar 10, 2017 15:26:14 GMT -5 Caviar said:

They're weak but she's currently holding down the top 5? Lol I can't

Quality isn't based on how high a song is on iTunes. There is plenty of trash floating up the Top 20 on iTunes right now.

[Caviar]

It's trash only when you hate the song(s)? Okay. Because if this was outside the top 20 it would be another narrative.

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Glove slap thanks for keeping it real~ (fair and balanced) this is why youre my POY

My problem with her featuring DRAKE and Wayne in a so called diss track to another female is that its wack, Drake didnt need two female rappers to come for meek twice. Remi spit bars, she didn't say i outsell you, she said she is a better rapper. You cant come back with a commercial track featuring two male rappers and call yourself queen of rap. Its a battle of skill not sales.

two please dont compare yourself to Aretha, she didnt need men to boost her on the charts. Aretha slays everyone.

Three dont disable your comments on IG, that is proving the haters right, that you know you lost and dont want to hear about it.

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Mar 10, 2017 15:26:14 GMT -5 Caviar said:

They're weak but she's currently holding down the top 5? Lol I can't

You mean to tell me anything Nicki dropped as response (and WITH Drake at that) wouldn't shoot up the charts on day 1?

It's a no brainer that the feud is generating attention- I mean, Remy Ma was in the top 20 on iTunes main when "Shether" dropped for crying out loud and she's FAR from a being a commercial act. Nicki doesn't have the bars to go against Remy but she has the chart power (and again, Drake) and she knows it.