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Post by Gary on Feb 9, 2016 16:00:24 GMT -5
Should take that message over to the Hot 100 thread and the recurrent rule rant.
Not necessarily true that a song that racked up bigger stats under more generous rules would be a bigger hit than a song that charted under stricter rules.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 9, 2016 17:02:04 GMT -5
^My Heart Will Go On" from Titanic. I hear Where Does My Heart Beat Now, If You Asked Me to and All By Myself on "90s radio" stations. Celine's SoundScan sales are impressive. From 2007: Unison - 1.216 million Celine Dion - 2.335 million The Colour of My Love - 4.487 million Dion Chante Plamondon - 110,320 The French Album - 237,570 Falling Into You - 10.754 million Let's Talk About Love - 9.426 million S'il Suffisait d'aimer - 109,535 These Are Special Times - 4.836 million All the Way - 7.417 million The Collector's Series - 879,555 A New Day Has Come - 3.264 million One Heart - 1.769 million 1 Fille & 4 Types - 23,925 A New Day...Live in Las Vegas - 472,435 Miracle - 908,850 On Ne Change Pas - 9,520 All the Way is now at 8 million. These Are Special Times is now over 5.3 million. Celine has sold over 52.2 million albums with SoundScan. Not only that, but LTAL managed those massive sales even while Titanic soundtrack was also Diamond as may opted buy the ST, which contained the 'raw' unmixed version. Can you imagine what LTAL could've sold? And that followed the major flop first single with Barbra. I also believe Taking Chances sold pretty darn well, which surprised me and reaffirmed that Celine is an album shifter. It's too bad she abruptly (and logically) stopped promoting LMBTL. Also I believe there is a rights issue with ANDHC because it's not on iTunes. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 9, 2016 18:09:38 GMT -5
Any ideas why Grease is listed as a debut on the Billboard 200? Could just be an error.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 20:15:44 GMT -5
Yep- just another example of Hot 100 showing not always telling the full story. The release of Titanic certainly bolstered the song's fortunes, as, while it was ranked in the 50s in airplay, it was moving slowly in airplay before the film's release. ....as many soundtrack songs written specifically for a movie do, right? They blow up after the exposure from the movie - if people like the song, that is. See You Again comes to mind as a recent example of this. It had a slow beginning and blew up as soon as the movie hit (#100, #82, #84... and then opening weekend gave it a 3-day movie boost to #10 and then #1). And mind you, it had commercial availability which prompted its early charting, while MHWGO was not available for its first 2 months of release. Meanwhile, her LTAL album was flying off the shelves this entire time, sitting at #2 behind Garth Brooks for several weeks. As for the song's chart history.... MHWGO immediately debuted on the overall Top 75 radio airplay chart, and was an instant Top 25 AC hit. 12/08/97 Radio Add date 12/19/97 Titanic Opening Day 12/20/97 AC #21, OVERALL #65 (debut positions for tracking week that began on radio add date of 12/08) 12/27/97 AC #13, OVERALL #56 01/03/98 AC #11, OVERALL #41 01/10/98 AC #7, OVERALL #39 01/17/98 AC #5, OVERALL #18 01/24/98 AC #3, OVERALL #4 01/31/98 AC #1, OVERALL #1 (and it stayed at #1 for 10 weeks) 02/28/98 HOT 100 #1 (debut, 2 weeks on top) 07/11/98 HOT 100 #53 (its final week before going recurrent) I think the "slow moving" airplay (if we can really call it that?) was due to the timing of a new release at the end of the year (holidays, "radio freeze"). The 1/03 and 1/10 airplay charts were both stagnant across the board - as per usual - which explains its subtle movement and then a big jump the following week. I agree about the Hot 100 not always telling the full story - as MHWGO wasn't eligible to chart until it was made commercially available as a single... and the single was limited to less than 700k copies (half of which sold in its first week - causing it to debut at #1).... yet it stayed put on the H100 without sales help for the majority of its full 20 week run and was only able to go Gold based on its limited availability. So, MHWGO's full story - and/or impact - definitely weren't told on the Hot 100. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 9, 2016 21:51:28 GMT -5
^Indeed. It was just a response to the prior comment. :)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 22:04:15 GMT -5
Any ideas why Grease is listed as a debut on the Billboard 200? Could just be an error. It's gotta be an error. Must have been a long day at the office. :) |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 9, 2016 22:06:45 GMT -5
Any ideas why Grease is listed as a debut on the Billboard 200? Could just be an error. I talked about that on the previous page of this thread. It's an error. They don't proofread their charts before they publish them! |
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Post by Gary on Feb 9, 2016 22:29:03 GMT -5
Perhaps but, the albums archive only goes back to 1985 so, in that sense, it is a debut
Officially though the "weeks on" should read 78 with 12 weeks at #1 and 29 weeks in the top 10
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 9, 2016 22:34:38 GMT -5
Perhaps but, the albums archive only goes back to 1985 so, in that sense, it is a debut Officially though the "weeks on" should read 78 with 12 weeks at #1 and 29 weeks in the top 10 No. All the Led Zeppelin and Paul McCartney & Wings re-issues last year were listed as re-entries. Same with all those David Bowie albums that re-entered last month. |
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Post by Gary on Feb 9, 2016 22:37:46 GMT -5
Perhaps but, the albums archive only goes back to 1985 so, in that sense, it is a debut Officially though the "weeks on" should read 78 with 12 weeks at #1 and 29 weeks in the top 10 No. All the Led Zeppelin and Paul McCartney & Wings re-issues last year were listed as re-entries. Same with all those David Bowie albums that re-entered last month. Nice but does not change what I said. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 9, 2016 22:38:35 GMT -5
^Go on. Keep arguing with me. That's what you do.
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Post by Gary on Feb 9, 2016 22:39:25 GMT -5
^Go on. Keep arguing with me. That's what you do. Don't be an ass. What I said was correct. The album has not appeared on the chart since the beginning of the archive. It might not be lazy lack of proofreading, it may be that this is its first week on the chart since the beginning of the archive which is why they probably called it a debut. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 9, 2016 22:42:49 GMT -5
Bullsh*t. We all know it's not a NEW album. It's a re-entry. It's an error and HAVE NO F*CKING IDEA why you have to go on and on about it.
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Post by Gary on Feb 9, 2016 22:46:35 GMT -5
Bullsh*t. We all know it's not a NEW album. It's a re-entry. It's an error and HAVE NO F*CKING IDEA why you have to go on and on about it. Don't respond to my posts if you are not capable of civil conversation. This is its first week on the BB200 since the beginning of the archives they use to post the chart. This might be why they called it a debut.
Obviously it is week 78 and obviously it is an error. But it might not be a proofreading thing was the point I was making. It might be that the software that spits out the chart called it a new title because it is not in the database. The cause of the error, appears to be an incomplete database. Hopefully they will fix it on the next chart, assuming it is still charting.
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Post by rimetm on Feb 9, 2016 23:36:55 GMT -5
Are you guys sure it's the same album? I do note that on Billboard.com, they list this one as [Original Soundtrack] while the 77-weeker is known as [The Soundtrack from the Motion Picture]. Maybe it's the Broadway musical that got the boost?
(And yes, the art used is the movie's, but that's completely irrelevant; they've used British NOW art from a decade ago for new US NOWs on several occasions, and they used a Disney animated soundtrack art for the live action Cinderella's soundtrack)
(The latter is not to discredit it being the movie necessarily, just not to use that evidence. It is plausible that because the titles differ, the autogenerating chart didn't recognize the weeks as a re-entry if they are indeed intended to be one and the same.)
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Feb 9, 2016 23:47:38 GMT -5
Celine was the Adele of the 90's, AC and Hot AC absolutely adored her.
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Post by Gary on Feb 9, 2016 23:52:35 GMT -5
Are you guys sure it's the same album? I do note that on Billboard.com, they list this one as [Original Soundtrack] while the 77-weeker is known as [The Soundtrack from the Motion Picture]. Maybe it's the Broadway musical that got the boost? (And yes, the art used is the movie's, but that's completely irrelevant; they've used British NOW art from a decade ago for new US NOWs on several occasions, and they used a Disney animated soundtrack art for the live action Cinderella's soundtrack) (The latter is not to discredit it being the movie necessarily, just not to use that evidence. It is plausible that because the titles differ, the autogenerating chart didn't recognize the weeks as a re-entry if they are indeed intended to be one and the same.) Yes that is possible too. |
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 10, 2016 4:31:38 GMT -5
It's totally common to mark a release as new if it's charting for the first time since renewal of chart/database etc. The Official Charts Company in the UK does it all the time. Especially with singles that are charting as digital downloads now vs. physical ages ago.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 9:06:47 GMT -5
The Grease Soundtrack charting as a new entry was indeed just an error and has been fixed to show the re-entry symbol along with its #1 peak and 78 weeks on. www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200 |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 10, 2016 9:09:00 GMT -5
Guys- is it really necessary to argue like this over chart information?
Billboard has clarified that the "NEW" designation for Grease was an error, which will be fixed.
EDIT: I see it has. Good thing I tweeted the inquiry. :)
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Post by Gary on Feb 10, 2016 9:26:26 GMT -5
Now listed as a re-entry 8x platinum 78 weeks on the chart
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 10, 2016 9:45:41 GMT -5
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24 18 20 43 Handwritten, Shawn Mendes 1
25 9 – 2 2016 Grammy Nominees, Various Artists 9
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30 3 – 2 Dystopia, Megadeth 3
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33 31 33 19 Tangled Up, Thomas Rhett 6
34 43 44 19 Hamilton: An American Musical, Original Broadway Cast 12
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40 33 32 5 Wildfire, Rachel Platten 5
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52 55 69 8 Swaay (EP), DNCE 51
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54 66 77 153 Take Care, Drake 1
55 15 – 2 Sex Love & Pain II, Tank 15
56 48 50 13 Delirium, Ellie Goulding 3
57 42 25 123 Greatest Hits, Fleetwood Mac 14
58 51 51 86 In The Lonely Hour, Sam Smith 2
59 60 66 24 Immortalized, Disturbed 1
60 58 59 25 Cry Baby, Melanie Martinez 6
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63 62 57 41 Love Stuff, Elle King 26
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65 68 76 9 Late Nights: The Album, Jeremih 42
66 56 58 22 Rodeo, Travi$ Scott 3
67 65 65 47 To Pimp A Butterfly, Kendrick Lamar 1
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70 64 56 210 1, The Beatles 1
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 10, 2016 10:02:01 GMT -5
Billboard has clarified that the "NEW" designation for Grease was an error, which will be fixed. EDIT: I see it has. Good thing I tweeted the inquiry. :) Wow that they felt it was much of an error to go back and change it. Yes, it is necessary with Gary. He's smart. He's probably been following the Billboard charts as long as I have. He really should know better. But, you know how he is. He fixates on something and can't let it go. What we should be discussing in this thread is the multitude of Catalog albums. Why? From position 200-101, The Billboard 200 has approx. 52 Catalog albums. More than half! From 1-100, there are approx. 22 Catalog albums. For a total of 74 Catalog albums. |
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Post by Gary on Feb 10, 2016 10:09:22 GMT -5
Billboard has clarified that the "NEW" designation for Grease was an error, which will be fixed. EDIT: I see it has. Good thing I tweeted the inquiry. :) Wow that they felt it was much of an error to go back and change it. Yes, it is necessary with Gary. He's smart. He's probably been following the Billboard charts as long as I have. He really should know better. But, you know how he is. He fixates on something and can't let it go. What we should be discussing in this thread is the multitude of Catalog albums. Why? From position 200-101, The Billboard 200 has approx. 52 Catalog albums. More than half! From 1-100, there are approx. 22 Catalog albums. For a total of 74 Catalog albums. If you disagree with my posts in the future report me or take it to pm, rather than put on a public display like this. As long as you have been here you should really know better. Thanks |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 10, 2016 10:15:18 GMT -5
Billboard has clarified that the "NEW" designation for Grease was an error, which will be fixed. EDIT: I see it has. Good thing I tweeted the inquiry. :) Wow that they felt it was much of an error to go back and change it. Yes, it is necessary with Gary. He's smart. He's probably been following the Billboard charts as long as I have. He really should know better. But, you know how he is. He fixates on something and can't let it go. What we should be discussing in this thread is the multitude of Catalog albums. Why? From position 200-101, The Billboard 200 has approx. 52 Catalog albums. More than half! From 1-100, there are approx. 22 Catalog albums. For a total of 74 Catalog albums. I'm wondering if they will change it to the Billboard 100 at some point. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 10, 2016 12:33:16 GMT -5
^Top Album Sales is the Billboard 100 of what the BB 200 had been, so probably not anytime soon. Billboard added TEA/streaming to the BB 200 mix to boost the units counts for titles.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 10, 2016 17:52:33 GMT -5
Wow that they felt it was much of an error to go back and change it. Yes, it is necessary with Gary. He's smart. He's probably been following the Billboard charts as long as I have. He really should know better. But, you know how he is. He fixates on something and can't let it go. What we should be discussing in this thread is the multitude of Catalog albums. Why? From position 200-101, The Billboard 200 has approx. 52 Catalog albums. More than half! From 1-100, there are approx. 22 Catalog albums. For a total of 74 Catalog albums. I'm wondering if they will change it to the Billboard 100 at some point. Exactly. That's what I was thinking. I'd rather have Top 100 Current Albums and Top 100 Catalog albums. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 10, 2016 18:09:38 GMT -5
^Top Album Sales is the Billboard 100 of what the BB 200 had been, so probably not anytime soon. Billboard added TEA/streaming to the BB 200 mix to boost the units counts for titles. I am questioning is it really necessary to have Journey's Greatest Hits on the Billboard 200 each week. It's gets old. It's great that Journey is still doing well, but it's keeping current acts from charting higher. Has streaming made labels lazy? We did not have a big Xmas album this year. Ed Sheeran and Sam Smith charted in the Top 20 best selling albums for 2014 and 2015. Where are the new acts? Is the music industry just going to rely on the big names for album sales? Rely on Drake, Kanye West, Maroon 5, Beyonce, Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith, Bruno Mars, Lorde, Pink, Katy Perry, Lady GaGa, Michael Buble, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, Jason Aldean, Miranda Lambert, OneRepublic, Ariana Grande and Metallica. All of these artists will/should have new albums out in 2016. I know, a lot of topics to discuss! |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 10, 2016 18:38:28 GMT -5
www.metalinsider.net/columns/metal-by-numbers/metal-by-numbers-210-some-astonishing-debutsMetal By Numbers 2/10: Some astonishing debutsPosted by Matt Brown on February 10, 2016 Notable Debuts:Dream Theater, The Astonishing (Roadrunner) #6, 29,950 sold The thirteenth studio album from Dream Theater once again hits the top 10. Avantasia, Ghostlights (Nuclear Blast) #101, 2,475 sold Avantasia nab their best debut yet in the US. Primal Fear, Rulebreaker (Frontiers) #159, 1,575 sold The band sees their best US debut yet with album eleven. Bury Tomorrow, Earthbound (Nuclear Blast) 1,250 sold The band’s fourth album manages to outdo Runes from 2014. Toothgrinder, Nocturnal Masquerade (Spinefarm) 770 sold The much-championed Toothgrinder debuts their first LP. Resurrection Kings, Resurrection Kings (Frontiers) 700 sold The debut LP from the band including Vinny Appice and Craig Goldy. Black Tusk, Pillars of Ash (Relapse) 610 sold The band’s first album since the death of their bassist makes its debut. Serenity, Codex Atlanticus (Napalm) 560 sold The lastest LP from Serenity is a concept album about Da Vinci. Remember when we premiered their music video? Conan, Revengeance (Napalm) 470 sold This is the third album from this doom band. Brimstone Coven, Black Magic (Metal Blade) 270 sold The latest from the Dark Occult Rock band. Exumer, The Raging Tides (Metal Blade) 220 sold The fourth album from the German thrash group. Notable Sales:Megadeth, Dystopia (UMe) #16, 14,375 sold A 70% doesn’t take this down too far in week two. Disturbed, Immortalized (Reprise) #39, 5,675 sold Boosted by 16%. Various Artists, Now That’s What I Call Rock (Sony) #68, 3,575 sold A 22% drop does not rock. Five Finger Death Punch, Got Your Six (Prospect Park) #71, 3,500 sold Just under 300,000 sold. Steven Wilson, 4 1/2 (Kscope) #89, 2,800 sold This got boosted up the #34 last week before dropping 46% this week. Shinedown, Threat To Survival (Atlantic) #92, 2,750 sold Twenty weeks on with just under 170,000 sold. Breaking Benjamin, Dark Before Dawn (Hollywood) #128, 1,850 sold This has ben boosted by 12%. Red, Of Beauty and Rage (Essential) #144, 1,700 sold A few weeks away from breaking the 100,000 mark. Bring Me The Horizon, That’s The Spirit (Columbia) #152, 1,600 sold This sold about the same as last week. Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Letters From The Labyrinth (Republic) #172, 1,450 sold A 19% drop with nearly 150,000 sold. Abbath, Abbath (Season of Mist) 1,025 sold A 60% drop in week two.
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Post by carreramd on Feb 10, 2016 21:35:34 GMT -5
^Top Album Sales is the Billboard 100 of what the BB 200 had been, so probably not anytime soon. Billboard added TEA/streaming to the BB 200 mix to boost the units counts for titles. I am questioning is it really necessary to have Journey's Greatest Hits on the Billboard 200 each week. It's gets old. It's great that Journey is still doing well, but it's keeping current acts from charting higher. Has streaming made labels lazy? We did not have a big Xmas album this year. Ed Sheeran and Sam Smith charted in the Top 20 best selling albums for 2014 and 2015. Where are the new acts? Is the music industry just going to rely on the big names for album sales? Rely on Drake, Kanye West, Maroon 5, Beyonce, Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith, Bruno Mars, Lorde, Pink, Katy Perry, Lady GaGa, Michael Buble, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, Jason Aldean, Miranda Lambert, OneRepublic, Ariana Grande and Metallica. All of these artists will/should have new albums out in 2016. I know, a lot of topics to discuss! What about Meghan, The Weeknd, Sam Hunt...? Their sales are great. And I think you forgot about Coldplay and Rihanna, they already released new albums, and forgot about Taylor Swift too. |
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