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Post by Live Your Life on Feb 29, 2016 22:56:22 GMT -5
This was a song written and produced by The-Dream and Tricky Stewart for a Jon Mclaughlin album, but it didn't end up making the cut. He never had much success, but this is a pretty well-known song by him. Beyoncé recorded it for her "I Am... Sasha Fierce" album. It was included on the deluxe edition, and she took writing and producing credit for changing "smack" to "smash."  Anyway, I love this song. It has really beautiful lyrics. Jon's version: Beyoncé's version: |
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Feb 29, 2016 23:06:28 GMT -5
I love this song.
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Post by evergreen on Feb 22, 2019 2:22:41 GMT -5
Love Jon's version. His voice is perfect on here.
Beyonce's is average in comparison, but still a pleasant listen.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 22, 2019 9:00:46 GMT -5
Beysus SNAPPED and outsold.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 24, 2019 19:51:44 GMT -5
The Jon version is MUCH better in terms of the vocal, but I kind of prefer the production of Beyonce's version (mostly the better sounding drums and no claps). I'd love a version with his vocal but her production.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Feb 24, 2019 22:18:37 GMT -5
I would love for Jon to re-record this. Glad B got her coins for changing 'Smack' to 'Smash' when she 'wrote' this though  He never had much success I actually really have a problem with this comment. Jon has wound up having a really consistent, wonderful career for himself as a singer/songwriter and a musician for over a decade with plenty of fans and a solid grassroots following and is still continuing to provide fans with great, quality music. Success is clearly subjective as I feel as though Jon has had a consistent career that other musicians would do anything to have. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 26, 2019 4:04:16 GMT -5
Changing a word actually counts as a legitimate writing credit to be fair lol, it's just a really cheap/lazy way of doing it though 'cause of how minimal a contribution it actually is. If Bey had a more active hand in the production on her version then she deserves that credit though.
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Post by Dreams on Feb 26, 2019 8:39:35 GMT -5
I like both versions.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 26, 2019 17:11:47 GMT -5
Changing a word actually counts as a legitimate writing credit to be fair lol, it's just a really cheap/lazy way of doing it though 'cause of how minimal a contribution it actually is. If Bey had a more active hand in the production on her version then she deserves that credit though. I don't think most artists would actually take a credit for such a minimal contribution, though. I've heard someone like Kelly Clarkson talk about making changes to songs but then still not taking a credit because it wasn't really their song. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 27, 2019 4:19:32 GMT -5
It's not a matter of whether or not an artist 'takes' the credit for even a miniscule change; I'm just saying that, legally, it's enough to class as a contribution to the writing process, which is enough to entitle one to a cut of the royalties.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 27, 2019 9:06:03 GMT -5
It's not a matter of whether or not an artist 'takes' the credit for even a miniscule change; I'm just saying that, legally, it's enough to class as a contribution to the writing process, which is enough to entitle one to a cut of the royalties. In a legal sense, sure, but in a moral sense it is a matter of an artist taking a credit for a minuscule change. Them taking a credit means the full writers get less money. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 27, 2019 9:51:04 GMT -5
Why are you still trying to shoehorn morality into this when it had literally nothing to do with what I said?
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 27, 2019 10:10:16 GMT -5
Why are you still trying to shoehorn morality into this when it had literally nothing to do with what I said? 1. Your comment was in response to someone putting wrote in quote marks, which implies a questioning of involvement, so that was the initial entry point of the discussion in this thread. 2. I then replied to you as an expansion of the conversation. If you didn't want to keep discussing, you could have simply not replied. So, I don't understand the issue here? |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 27, 2019 10:32:02 GMT -5
She could and she did and she outsold.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 27, 2019 10:32:13 GMT -5
I provided some context for the legalities of writing credits (and what constitutes them). No more, no less. It did not require expanding upon; you chose to do that anyway by bringing up morality, which was tangential to my point.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 28, 2019 20:41:12 GMT -5
I provided some context for the legalities of writing credits (and what constitutes them). No more, no less. It did not require expanding upon; you chose to do that anyway by bringing up morality, which was tangential to my point. Why am I not allowed to bring up other issues? |
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