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Post by seak05 on Feb 21, 2017 12:47:50 GMT -5
I know that Raelynn has her album coming out next month, but I am seriously wondering if this will make it to the album release date. It just seems like every day "Love Triangle" is struggling to just keep its bullet on Mediabase and I won't be shocked to see this miss the Top 30 on MB and I doubt Raelynn will be in the BB Top 30 as she should be at #35 tonight and at this point this song seems to be spinning its wheels. Technically it already made BB top 30 (the week before the Sam Hunt/ZBB hourly debuts). Otherwise I agree with you. It's really frustrating because this song should be top 30.
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Post by zaclord π on Feb 21, 2017 13:09:20 GMT -5
It's a shame that this never truly recovered after Christmas. It looked like there was some potential to do well when the album got pushed back (and that may be the reason the album did get pushed back), but since the new year it has not moved much at all. I absolutely love this song and would love to see it turn into a hit, but the time for that has likely passed. All these new singles from big artists we've gotten in the past 6 weeks have probably stolen from this one's potential
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Feb 21, 2017 13:18:08 GMT -5
It's a shame radio is resisting playing this song, it's really great, and I would like to see a resurgence happen before her album comes out.
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Post by dm2081 on Feb 21, 2017 23:37:27 GMT -5
RaeLynn isn't my favorite singer by any means, but it does seem like radio has given her a hard time with her follow-up singles since "God Made Girls". This one is selling quite good as well for a song with small airplay, so naturally I have to think that callout scores are what's holding her back. Think she just might have one of those voices that's too polarizing for consistency.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 22, 2017 0:42:48 GMT -5
Of course, the bigger head scratcher for me is why radio DID give "God Made Girls" a chance to begin with...
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 22, 2017 0:55:14 GMT -5
Of course, the bigger head scratcher for me is why radio DID give "God Made Girls" a chance to begin with... It got off to a decent start because it was her debut single + she had some hype from The Voice (she didn't win but she was one of the more popular alumnus from her season and she had the support of Blake/Miranda), but then it slowed down once it got into the 30s (so kinda the same scenario as "Love Triangle" is currently experiencing) and was only saved because it was selected for OTV because they saw how incredibly well it was selling. This girl has attracted a pretty sizable following for her limited success thus far. "God Made Girls" had polarizing callout that held it back from getting any higher than the mid teens, but it was consistently one of the best selling singles on the chart during its run, so plenty of people loved it (myself included fwiw). It's a shame that this one is running into such a tough time getting higher than the cusp of Top 30 because this song is just incredible. I'm glad that this girl is finally getting a proper debut album release though soon. Really looking forward to that and I've got my fingers crossed that where "Love Triangle" didn't connect in the big way that I would've liked, something else from the record might have a better time working its way up the charts.
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Post by LBTrocks on Feb 22, 2017 1:13:56 GMT -5
I don't think RaeLynn will ever be truly successful at country radio. I don't think it has much to do with the quality of her music or the fact that she's a female, but rather the fact that her voice (like it or not) is extremely polarizing and the opposite of radio friendly. She'll probably always have a decent following and will come out with music that her fans like, but I doubt her relationship with radio will ever be anything less than rocky.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 6:34:39 GMT -5
I don't think RaeLynn will ever be truly successful at country radio. I don't think it has much to do with the quality of her music or the fact that she's a female, but rather the fact that her voice (like it or not) is extremely polarizing and the opposite of radio friendly. She'll probably always have a decent following and will come out with music that her fans like, but I doubt her relationship with radio will ever be anything less than rocky. This!! Raelynn will always have her fans, but she probably has one of the most polarizing and possibly non radio friendly voices. The harder she puts on that "twang" the worse her voice sounds and the more polarizing it'll be (imo)
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Post by seak05 on Mar 10, 2017 11:45:48 GMT -5
Raelynn is scheduled for the Ellen show on 3/24. I'm super happy that the album will be coming out. Not holding my breath for it, but hoping we see more of a trend for labels actually letting albums come out even without radio hit singles.
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Post by KanenrΓ‘:ke on Mar 10, 2017 12:27:28 GMT -5
Raelynn is scheduled for the Ellen show on 3/24. I'm super happy that the album will be coming out. Not holding my breath for it, but hoping we see more of a trend for labels actually letting albums come out even without radio hit singles. Yes that would be great! There's so many albums that I'd love to hear that could've been put out if labels didn't wait until they got a top 20 or better! Even ep's would be good for some.
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Post by g8erboi on Mar 11, 2017 22:49:30 GMT -5
Do we know this is done for sure? It gained a little today, and the callouts aren't that terrible.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 12, 2017 0:34:44 GMT -5
Do we know this is done for sure? It gained a little today, and the callouts aren't that terrible. This is still being promoted but it's literally done nothing lately. "Love Triangle" has gained no spins (less than 10) and has actually lost 600k net audience, over the past six weeks. Yikes. As for its testing, yes, it's #18 in total popular score on MB callout but it was consistently last in Bullseye Callout out of the top 40 tested songs before being nowhere to be found in their survey, this week. I'm also confident most stations look at their local market testing anyway. It won't go any higher at radio, despite the label's best efforts.
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Post by g8erboi on Mar 16, 2017 11:04:42 GMT -5
Had a pretty good update today!
+62 spins +56 bullet (bullet is now 126) +0.170 audience
Maybe it isn't the end! Perhaps this will re-enter on Billboard?
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Post by seak05 on Mar 16, 2017 11:21:15 GMT -5
Label has clearly decided to try to keep this "alive" through her album release date (next Friday the 24th).
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 16, 2017 14:54:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm glad they're keeping this alive for the release of the album, which makes complete sense. It'd be nice if they could manage to get it to re-enter the charts and take a second wind up the charts to a higher peak, but they'll probably just try a new single instead once the album is out because of the resistance radio has shown this one. Such a shame. :'(
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 20, 2017 23:52:32 GMT -5
After going recurrent a couple weeks back on Billboard Airplay, they re-entered "Love Triangle" this week at #29 (gaining 800k in audience).
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 21, 2017 0:09:33 GMT -5
After going recurrent a couple weeks back on Billboard Airplay, they re-entered "Love Triangle" this week at #29 (gaining 800k in audience). Omg my heart. Hope it can still move up a little more and set a new peak because I believe #29 was already its previous best. Not holding my breath for this to catch a full-blown second wind but seeing this hanging in there well enough that it was able to re-enter makes me so happy. <3
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Post by trebor on Mar 21, 2017 6:08:34 GMT -5
I don't want to be disrespectful, but another dead weight is back that will not go any further (than it originally did). Fear that this will be another Parmalee: "Roots" or A Thousand Horses: "(This Ain't No) Drunk Dial" type of situation. I'm sure (hope so) that there is another suitable song on her album to send out to radio instead.
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Post by gingersnap on Mar 21, 2017 7:28:36 GMT -5
Songs like this one that have gone recurrent then comes back on the charts are one reason the charts stay " clogged", once a song goes recurrent, it shouldn't be back on the charts. I know her label is doing it cause she has a cd coming out, just wonder how much it cost them to get the song back on, oh well maybe the cd will sell enough copies that her label makes their money back.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 21, 2017 10:03:32 GMT -5
Songs like this one that have gone recurrent then comes back on the charts are one reason the charts stay " clogged", once a song goes recurrent, it shouldn't be back on the charts. I know her label is doing it cause she has a cd coming out, just wonder how much it cost them to get the song back on, oh well maybe the cd will sell enough copies that her label makes their money back. For what it's worth, her people sent an e-mail yesterday that you could get free shipping on the CD if you ordered by the 22nd.
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Post by someguy on Mar 21, 2017 17:57:14 GMT -5
I don't want to be disrespectful, but another dead weight is back that will not go any further (than it originally did). Fear that this will be another Parmalee: "Roots" or A Thousand Horses: "(This Ain't No) Drunk Dial" type of situation. I'm sure (hope so) that there is another suitable song on her album to send out to radio instead. I think RaeLynn now becomes the first artist to have her first two top 40 hits become zombie singles.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Mar 21, 2017 21:17:00 GMT -5
Can someone explain why this situation happens to any song? Why can a song be done then basically get a restart at its old peak? I am a little confused. Has any song had this happen and then peaked top 5?
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Post by zaclord π on Mar 21, 2017 22:06:14 GMT -5
Can someone explain why this situation happens to any song? Why can a song be done then basically get a restart at its old peak? I am a little confused. Has any song had this happen and then peaked top 5? Carolina by Parmalee Almost Home by Craig Morgan there may be some others that I'm forgetting... But essentially if a song is making big enough gains despite being recurrent and there is potential for it to reach a new peak, then a song can re-enter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 22:21:34 GMT -5
Didn't "Love You Like That" get sent recurrent too?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 21, 2017 22:30:18 GMT -5
Can someone explain why this situation happens to any song? Why can a song be done then basically get a restart at its old peak? I am a little confused. Has any song had this happen and then peaked top 5? It's because "Love Triangle" was floundering on the charts for weeks and met the criteria to be sent recurrent by Billboard so they did, but even though it wasn't showing up on the charts, the label continued to keep promoting and prop it up so that it made a nice enough recovery to be able to re-enter the charts. Basically, the label wasn't done with it, so despite spending a few weeks off the charts, it really didn't go anywhere -- it just wasn't showing up on the chart for people to see it.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 21, 2017 23:05:40 GMT -5
Didn't "Love You Like That" get sent recurrent too? Yes. For a long time, "Almost Home" by Craig Morgan was the poster child for a song going recurrent but ending up being brought back and eventually becoming a top 10 single. But then "Carolina" by Parmalee did it in 2013 and went on to #1.
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Post by g8erboi on Mar 22, 2017 12:40:23 GMT -5
Good music will always find its way. :)
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Post by nick64 on Mar 22, 2017 14:31:22 GMT -5
Glad it's back :)
Billboard should update their rules. This happens way too often.
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Post by someguy on Mar 22, 2017 16:37:05 GMT -5
I agree that this happens far too often, but I think that they should follow their rules, and only re-enter, say, in the top 10 or something like that. Either that or completely abolish recurrent rules, which I'd also be fine with. I don't like this recurrent, off for two weeks, back on for three, off again nonsense. I think that they should only let a song back on when it is incredibly clear that a significant change in peak would result from a re-entry (ex. a #29 song that becomes a #4; not a #35 that becomes a #28).
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Post by nick64 on Mar 22, 2017 18:45:37 GMT -5
I agree that this happens far too often, but I think that they should follow their rules, and only re-enter, say, in the top 10 or something like that. Either that or completely abolish recurrent rules, which I'd also be fine with. I don't like this recurrent, off for two weeks, back on for three, off again nonsense. I think that they should only let a song back on when it is incredibly clear that a significant change in peak would result from a re-entry (ex. a #29 song that becomes a #4; not a #35 that becomes a #28). I don't know, that kinda just ruins its chart run and makes the chart inaccurate. I think they should send a song recurrent once its lost a certain amount of audience or spins, rather than two weeks of negatives.
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