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Post by skizzo on Aug 11, 2016 22:36:37 GMT -5
In Europe we've used only "dance" to describe all types of EDM music for decades now. Although in the US it was "electronica" before, along with "techno" (which was incorrect since this is a sub-genre).
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Post by renfield75 on Aug 11, 2016 23:52:43 GMT -5
I'm not saying the album died, obviously, but "Send My Love" has taken some time to impact, after WWWY underperformed. It's not because Adele's flopping of course, that's silly, but for these monster albums it seems like there hasn't been much of a plan in place after the initial burst. The roll-out for "Hello" was brilliant...and while of course the first single was going to be the biggest, it seems like they just didn't care as much after that. It seems like Adele should be having a singles run like Taylor Swift or Katy Perry. But they're selling albums, so who really cares about running multiple number one singles up the charts? Only us...
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Aug 12, 2016 1:44:45 GMT -5
Idk it's looking like the next number one might be Closer. Number one sales and Spotify. And if the airplay catches up, I could see it.
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Post by forg on Aug 12, 2016 3:08:08 GMT -5
Rooting for Closer to be the next #1
As for Adele, I wish 25 also had 3 1#s like 21 but then again Hello's success was probably enough, she's currently on a sold out tour so the album already did its job. To say it didn't have big impact is silly, sure not as big as 21 but it still had impact. And people didn't buy 25 just because they like 21, they like Adele's music. And you know what I think the album's amount of success is just enough to cement Adele's status but not to the point of over saturation
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 9:01:29 GMT -5
Adele isn't one of these pop stars who have a new album cycle every 2 years. She's essentially said it will be 5 years between albums, so why rush the album cycle of singles? Spread it out. Let it breathe. Not pushing WWWY ended up probably be wise on some level, as well as the relatively slow and subtle onset of SML.
I don't think this is a label not wanting to promote singles - it's a label that has already sold massive amounts of the album in a very short amount of time. And it's also a label that knows that if they burn through them too fast and heavy, they won't have anything else from Adele for years. I won't be surprised to see decent gaps between future 25 singles and having the era last through Q4 of next year.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 12, 2016 9:27:41 GMT -5
whoever invented the term EDM is a total idiot. I'm guessing it was introduced by the EDC festivals when the underground rave scene died in the early turn of the century. "Techno" will always and forever be the blanket form of dance music. It was always "do you listen to techno?" and that could mean anything.
yes, it's also a sub-genre, but it's in the same sense that the Pop songs chart holds many different genres as well. A pure pop song like Call Me Maybe, and then a Drake song also charting on this chart.
whenever someone says EDM I just have to laugh cuz it sounds so stupid. Guess i'm oldskool.
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 12, 2016 12:22:39 GMT -5
whoever invented the term EDM is a total idiot. I'm guessing it was introduced by the EDC festivals when the underground rave scene died in the early turn of the century. "Techno" will always and forever be the blanket form of dance music. It was always "do you listen to techno?" and that could mean anything. yes, it's also a sub-genre, but it's in the same sense that the Pop songs chart holds many different genres as well. A pure pop song like Call Me Maybe, and then a Drake song also charting on this chart. whenever someone says EDM I just have to laugh cuz it sounds so stupid. Guess i'm oldskool. There is plenty of dance music that isn't techno, though, right? What would you call "Into the Groove" or "Finally" or something? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 12:49:17 GMT -5
EDM is the mother category made up of all types of dance music produced with electronic instruments and/or technology. House, Techno, Garage, Drum & Bass, Dubstep, Ambient, Electro, Trap.... the list goes on and on... are all sub categories of EDM, and many of these categories have subcategories of their own. ListSo, by definition, the notion that techno is synonymous with EDM is flawed. Not sure why "EDM" or the theoretical person who named it is idiotic? |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 12, 2016 12:56:14 GMT -5
techno = electronic music
simple as that.
I remember in the early 2000's when DJ's started mixing the latest pop song into their set and everyone being utterly appalled. It took everything that made the underground techno scene special and made it mainstream for the masses. Now you've got kids screaming "look at me, i'm watching Avicii spin "Wake Me Up" at a rave!" haha. Stupid kids. They'll never know what was truly cool.
And Into the Groove is a pop song.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 13:20:01 GMT -5
techno = electronic music simple as that. I remember in the early 2000's when DJ's started mixing the latest pop song into their set and everyone being utterly appalled. It took everything that made the underground techno scene special and made it mainstream for the masses. Now you've got kids screaming "look at me, i'm watching Avicii spin "Wake Me Up" at a rave!" haha. Stupid kids. They'll never know what was truly cool. And Into the Groove is a pop song. You're welcome to your overly generalized opinion on this, and you are not the only one to use "techno" in a very general way. However, the term "techno" was invented to describe a very specific type of electronic music with it's own set of characteristics that differ from House, for example. Both are sub categories of electronic dance music. Feel free to look it up. For you to throw around words like "idiot" and "stupid" while you yourself are generalizing on the pedestal of "this is this, simple as that" as if you are well educated on the topic... well, says a lot about you. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 12, 2016 13:26:17 GMT -5
Techno is not the same as EDM. They're both sub-sections of Dance music and Electronic music yes, but they are absolutely not the same thing. Just like Rave and Trance music isn't the same as what's considered EDM.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Aug 12, 2016 13:52:00 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 12, 2016 15:49:02 GMT -5
Closer is gaining on Cold Water on YouTube. Won't be long before it passes it, and it's already ahead on Spotify and iTunes. The airplay gap is still pretty large, but Closer is coming. It looks like Closer might actually block Cold Water from number one. Did not see that coming! Pretty awesome to see, actually.
Also, it'll be great to see either reach number one just to break the curse of EDM getting stuck in the 3-5 range.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Aug 12, 2016 16:35:20 GMT -5
^ I think Cold Water is gonna be #1 on the 9/3 or 9/10 chart, stay there for a couple weeks, then get passed by Closer
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Post by Leo ✔ on Aug 12, 2016 21:06:01 GMT -5
I prefer Closer than Cold Water
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Post by felipe on Aug 12, 2016 21:12:27 GMT -5
As EDM stands for Eletronic Dance Music, isn't a little redundant to say EDM/Dance? Honest question, not trying to be snarky. No, because there is dance music that isn't EDM. EDM is the main form of dance music right now in terms of popularity, but saying "EDM/Dance" is a way to highlight the main form but also leaving room for other types of dance music. What type of dance music isn't EDM? |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Aug 12, 2016 21:20:00 GMT -5
No, because there is dance music that isn't EDM. EDM is the main form of dance music right now in terms of popularity, but saying "EDM/Dance" is a way to highlight the main form but also leaving room for other types of dance music. What type of dance music isn't EDM? Disco for starters. Plus how house music originally started, with italo-disco, then rave, then eurodance, then trance. With trip-hop in the mix too. |
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Aug 12, 2016 21:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by felipe on Aug 13, 2016 6:18:13 GMT -5
What type of dance music isn't EDM? Disco for starters. Plus how house music originally started, with italo-disco, then rave, then eurodance, then trance. With trip-hop in the mix too.Most of these are listed under EDM on wikipedia. Is it incorrect? |
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Post by Mike is BAD on Aug 13, 2016 6:22:48 GMT -5
Youtube Building Chart 8/10/2016 Desiigner sings Tiimmy Turner not Future  It's ok tho |
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Aug 13, 2016 7:06:25 GMT -5
Youtube Building Chart 8/10/2016 Desiigner sings Tiimmy Turner not Future  It's ok tho yep i know, but youtube track timmy turner's owner as Future, maybe he hold the content ID but idk, just get data from music insight |
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Post by weaver on Aug 13, 2016 9:01:26 GMT -5
What's caused the big bounce for Heathens, both in iTunes and now streaming??
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Aug 13, 2016 9:15:08 GMT -5
What's caused the big bounce for Heathens, both in iTunes and now streaming?? Suicide Squad. |
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Post by Ravi on Aug 13, 2016 9:49:59 GMT -5
Predictions: | Rank | Song | Sales | Airplay | Streams | Points | | 1 | Cheap Thrills | 60 | 155 | 13.5 | 33,400 | | 2 | Cold Water | 70 | 65 | 20.0 | 31,000 | | 3 | This is What You Came For | 35 | 135 | 15.0 | 29,900 | | 4 | One Dance | 35 | 130 | 15.0 | 29,400 | | 5 | Heathens | 100 | 20 | 18.0 | 28,100 | | 6 | Ride | 45 | 125 | 12.0 | 27,500 | | 7/8 | Can't Stop The Feeling | 60 | 125 | 9.5 | 27,000 | | 7/8 | Closer | 85 | 30 | 17.5 | 27,000 | | 9 | Don't Let Me Down | 35 | 105 | 14.0 | 26,000 | | 10 | Needed Me | 30 | 85 | 15.5 | 24,800 | | 11 | Send My Love | 40 | 110 | 9.0 | 23,000 | | 12/13 | Let Me Love You | 115 | 5 | 8.0 | 20,000 | | 12/13 | Into You | 55 | 55 | 10.0 | 20,000 |
* Cheap Thrills should comfortably remain #1. * Cold Water should climb back to #2 while Heathens is also looking to crack Top-5. * Let Me Love You will debut at #12 or #13. |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Aug 13, 2016 11:54:38 GMT -5
Wow, so Closer is looking to gain a position or 2. It's not taking the usual 2nd week fall.  |
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 13, 2016 12:48:25 GMT -5
No, because there is dance music that isn't EDM. EDM is the main form of dance music right now in terms of popularity, but saying "EDM/Dance" is a way to highlight the main form but also leaving room for other types of dance music. What type of dance music isn't EDM? Any dance music made without using electronic instruments. Part of the confusion is that "EDM" as a term didn't really come around until more recently. So, some "dance" songs that might now fall under "EDM" weren't called that, say, 20 years ago. So for people who have been following music for a few decades now, EDM is really more of a new term and also something that fits newer dance music. To younger people who have known EDM since they began following music, it's just a normal term for dance music. |
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Post by Ravi on Aug 13, 2016 13:05:48 GMT -5
^ I think Cold Water is gonna be #1 on the 9/3 or 9/10 chart, stay there for a couple weeks, then get passed by Closer I think we could see a 3-way fight for #1 next week! Cheap Thrills - 55-155-12.5 = 32,000 Cold Water - 65-75-20.5 = 31,800 Closer - 100-40-20.0 = 31,800 Interesting!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 14:51:47 GMT -5
Desiigner sings Tiimmy Turner not Future It's ok tho yep i know, but youtube track timmy turner's owner as Future, maybe he hold the content ID but idk, just get data from music insight Sheesh, I know Desiigner sounds like a Future ripoff, but this is ridiculous. Seems like such a simple thing to fix. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Aug 13, 2016 15:23:59 GMT -5
Wow.. Smallest gap between #1 and #10..
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Post by imperialmarch on Aug 13, 2016 16:17:05 GMT -5
^ I think Cold Water is gonna be #1 on the 9/3 or 9/10 chart, stay there for a couple weeks, then get passed by Closer I think we could see a 3-way fight for #1 next week! Cheap Thrills - 55-155-12.5 = 32,000 Cold Water - 65-75-20.5 = 31,800 Closer - 100-40-20.0 = 31,800 Interesting!!! I am curious to see if closer and to a lesser extent cold water will get enough airplay to catch up to cheap thrills |
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