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Post by Gary on Dec 30, 2016 18:13:11 GMT -5
Gaurantee: Everyone's run at the top comes to an end eventually (yes even Rihanna and Taylor Swift and...)
Also a guarantee: excuses in these threads will be abundant when a pop single that is guaranteed or likely to be #1 underperforms: no video, not a proper single, her "team" screwed up etc.
other than that nothing is certain
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 30, 2016 18:28:30 GMT -5
Gaurantee: Everyone's run at the top comes to an end eventually (yes even Rihanna and Taylor Swift and...) Also a guarantee: excuses in these threads will be abundant when a pop single that is guaranteed or likely to be #1 underperforms: no video, not a proper single, her "team" screwed up etc. other than that nothing is certain I agree. The best example of this is Mariah, who looked to ready to match The Beatles record for #1s in the Hot 100. Now she's having a very hard time being able to chart in it. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 30, 2016 18:29:53 GMT -5
No one ever is, but some artist are more likely to get a #1 than others. For now, you can arguably include whenever they release a new album: Rihanna, The Weeknd, Adele, Katy Perry and Bruno Mars. If Taylor Swift and Drake manage to do that with a song from their new albums, then I'd include them as well. If Katy Perry fails to do so with a single from her next album, I'd take her off that list. Same deal for Bruno Mars if he can't do so with a single from 24K Magic. Why do you have Mars and Weeknd on there but not Taylor Swift? The last two lead singles from Swift albums have hit #1. Bruno Mars' most recent lead single did not reach #1. Weeknd doesn't have the same string of hits that Swift does. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 30, 2016 22:57:03 GMT -5
For now, you can arguably include whenever they release a new album: Rihanna, The Weeknd, Adele, Katy Perry and Bruno Mars. If Taylor Swift and Drake manage to do that with a song from their new albums, then I'd include them as well. If Katy Perry fails to do so with a single from her next album, I'd take her off that list. Same deal for Bruno Mars if he can't do so with a single from 24K Magic. Why do you have Mars and Weeknd on there but not Taylor Swift? The last two lead singles from Swift albums have hit #1. Bruno Mars' most recent lead single did not reach #1. Weeknd doesn't have the same string of hits that Swift does. Basically, my point of view is who will release an album that has a #1 song. Taylor Swift has gotten 3 #1s from one album which is good, but how she does with the singles from her next one will tell us is she can be considered one of the artist in that list. Keep in mind that artist need to keep proving themselves to keep that status. I did mention her as a potential candidate for the list. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 31, 2016 9:09:40 GMT -5
Why do you have Mars and Weeknd on there but not Taylor Swift? The last two lead singles from Swift albums have hit #1. Bruno Mars' most recent lead single did not reach #1. Weeknd doesn't have the same string of hits that Swift does. Basically, my point of view is who will release an album that has a #1 song. Taylor Swift has gotten 3 #1s from one album which is good, but how she does with the singles from her next one will tell us is she can be considered one of the artist in that list. Keep in mind that artist need to keep proving themselves to keep that status. I did mention her as a potential candidate for the list. My point is the lead single from Swift's last two albums easily shot to #1. That's as good as The Weekend, and better really since "Starboy" had to back its way into a #1 with a discount. It's also better than Mars, who isn't going to get a #1 with his current lead single. It's also the same as Adele. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 31, 2016 9:24:14 GMT -5
Basically, my point of view is who will release an album that has a #1 song. Taylor Swift has gotten 3 #1s from one album which is good, but how she does with the singles from her next one will tell us is she can be considered one of the artist in that list. Keep in mind that artist need to keep proving themselves to keep that status. I did mention her as a potential candidate for the list. My point is the lead single from Swift's last two albums easily shot to #1. That's as good as The Weekend, and better really since "Starboy" had to back its way into a #1 with a discount. It's also better than Mars, who isn't going to get a #1 with his current lead single. It's also the same as Adele. Yeah, you're right! I had forgotten about We Are Never Getting Back Together. So we can include her in the least. Basically, the best way to go about it is two have two singles from two consecutive albums going #1. If so, then Justin Bieber could be eligible if he manages to do that. That seems to be a fair way to go about it since it requires an artist to have continued success to earn the distinction. |
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Post by allow that on Dec 31, 2016 10:06:41 GMT -5
Basically, my point of view is who will release an album that has a #1 song. Taylor Swift has gotten 3 #1s from one album which is good, but how she does with the singles from her next one will tell us is she can be considered one of the artist in that list. Keep in mind that artist need to keep proving themselves to keep that status. I did mention her as a potential candidate for the list. My point is the lead single from Swift's last two albums easily shot to #1. That's as good as The Weekend, and better really since "Starboy" had to back its way into a #1 with a discount. It's also better than Mars, who isn't going to get a #1 with his current lead single. It's also the same as Adele. Eh, "Starboy" was also blocked by the year's biggest viral sensation until now. I'm more forgiving of the discount in this case as it'd be a very easy multiple week #1 during most chart frames. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 31, 2016 10:33:51 GMT -5
My point is the lead single from Swift's last two albums easily shot to #1. That's as good as The Weekend, and better really since "Starboy" had to back its way into a #1 with a discount. It's also better than Mars, who isn't going to get a #1 with his current lead single. It's also the same as Adele. Eh, "Starboy" was also blocked by the year's biggest viral sensation until now. I'm more forgiving of the discount in this case as it'd be a very easy multiple week #1 during most chart frames. Yeah, sometimes a song gets unlucky to be charting when one or two other prevent them from reaching #1. While reaching #1 is important, a song's real success should not be measured only by that. There are several songs that haven't reached #1 that had much better chart run than many of those that did. |
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Post by allow that on Dec 31, 2016 10:43:15 GMT -5
Eh, "Starboy" was also blocked by the year's biggest viral sensation until now. I'm more forgiving of the discount in this case as it'd be a very easy multiple week #1 during most chart frames. Yeah, sometimes a song gets unlucky to be charting when one or two other prevent them from reaching #1. While reaching #1 is important, a song's real success should not be measured only by that. There are several songs that haven't reached #1 that had much better chart run than many of those that did. My favorite (and first) memory of that is Usher's first ever #1 and his #2 hit that preceded it. "You Make Me Wanna..." was widely though of as his biggest hit at the time but it got blocked at #2 by an extraordinary event single (Elton John's tribute to Princess Diana) while his follow-up "Nice and Slow" had an easy catapult to #1. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 31, 2016 11:28:15 GMT -5
For now, you can arguably include whenever they release a new album: Rihanna, The Weeknd, Adele, Katy Perry and Bruno Mars. If Taylor Swift and Drake manage to do that with a song from their new albums, then I'd include them as well. If Katy Perry fails to do so with a single from her next album, I'd take her off that list. Same deal for Bruno Mars if he can't do so with a single from 24K Magic. Why do you have Mars and Weeknd on there but not Taylor Swift? The last two lead singles from Swift albums have hit #1. Bruno Mars' most recent lead single did not reach #1. Weeknd doesn't have the same string of hits that Swift does. Why does it matter? It's his list? Again, dead conversation piece. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 31, 2016 11:29:53 GMT -5
Why do you have Mars and Weeknd on there but not Taylor Swift? The last two lead singles from Swift albums have hit #1. Bruno Mars' most recent lead single did not reach #1. Weeknd doesn't have the same string of hits that Swift does. Why does it matter? It's his list? Again, dead conversation piece.  |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 31, 2016 13:07:30 GMT -5
Why do you have Mars and Weeknd on there but not Taylor Swift? The last two lead singles from Swift albums have hit #1. Bruno Mars' most recent lead single did not reach #1. Weeknd doesn't have the same string of hits that Swift does. Why does it matter? It's his list? Again, dead conversation piece. 1. just because you say something doesn't make it so. 2. This is a discussion board, so we, you know, discuss things. I was trying to figure out the poster's logic. It turns out the poster forgot something and changed their thought based on my posts, so it looks like it wasn't actually a dead conversation. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 31, 2016 13:33:31 GMT -5
Just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean it has merit or base though, or that their logic is actually, you know, logic. There's a difference between a discussion of actual ideas with progression in the conversation, and a roundtable of blah blah bullet points. People need to not be so sensitive.
And this isn't meant to single anyone out, it's just a general statement.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 31, 2016 19:20:54 GMT -5
Why does it matter? It's his list? Again, dead conversation piece. 1. just because you say something doesn't make it so. 2. This is a discussion board, so we, you know, discuss things. I was trying to figure out the poster's logic. It turns out the poster forgot something and changed their thought based on my posts, so it looks like it wasn't actually a dead conversation. Good point. And now, because of your helpfulness, Taylor will, in fact, be guaranteed to debut at #1 - unless she doesn't, which is unlikely because she will, except for the possibility that she won't. Hmmm. |
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